Correspondent kasie hunt. Just for entertainment i beat up bill karins this morning. Awful. Willie, you were on jury duty the past couple days. Happy to serve the great county of new york the last couple days. I didnt get picked. I was a little offended. He could go one of two ways, he said cops are always right. Is that bad . Is that bad . You do what you have to do. Go with your instinct. Lets get to the headlines. Congressional leaders say former National Security adviser Michael Flynn may have violated federal law by not disclosing payments from russia and turkey. He was paid nearly 34,000 to attend and address a gala with president Vladimir Putin in december of 2015. He got more than 500,000 to lobby for the turkish government last year. So many things wrong with this. We knew about putin, but over 500,000 to lobby for turkey while you are the National Security adviser in waiting and you dont report this publicly. Thats it. While youre doing bidding for turkey. Not just how do you not declare it, how do you seek that money, knowing that youre trying to become someone to serve the United States in a Foreign Policy capacity and you go out for jobs lobbying for other countries. Not supposed to do it as a former member of the military as well. Theres two layers of wrong here, right . Right. Katty, its not as if turkey has been really the bad actor in nato over the past decade. He was taking some of the money while turkey was clamping down on human rights issues as well. Erdogan has been pretty tough at home. You just dont do it. Whats odd about this story, weve known this this has been in the press for a while. How does he get through the security clearance when these stories are out here all during the campaign these stories were in the press that putin was taking money from the turks. I dont know where the slipup came. Theres also questions about Jared Kushner and his security clearance. Someone needs to look closely at what people are saying in the security clearance world. Jason chaffetz and Elijah Cummings say from what theyve seen flynns application for a security clearance did not report the funds he received for the russia trip or show that he asked for permission to be paid by a foreign source. Last night chaffetz rebuked flynn and raised more questions. You cant do this. You cant as a former military officer nothing specifically with mr. Flynn, general flynn, it has everything to do with former military officers. They cant go and take money from a foreign government. You cant get a direct payment like that, because former military officers can be called up and into duty at any given time. That does beg another question which is how did he get a security clearance . If he did all those things and which can easily figure that out, how did he get a security clearance. Willie, bipartisan rebuke now. Michael flynn admitted in paperwork he was working as a Foreign Agent. You have to think about what that means. In a dispute between United States and turkey, he was representing turkish interests, not the interests of the United States. It doesnt speak well as a vetting process inside the trump transition. I think were frankly luckily hes not sitting in the west wing right now. Whats also amazing is he has violated the security elements of three different agencies, the white house, National Security director, as congressman chaffetz pointed out, an army officer, supposed to inform the United States army of your activities, and he was formerly the head of the Defense Intelligence agency. He maintains a security clearance as former head, not at top level. Its astounding he didnt have the wherewithal to put this down on paper and doubly astounding that the Trump Campaign didnt force more investigation into his background during the campaign. An attorney for flynn responded yesterday, quote, as has previously been reported general flynn briefed the Defense Intelligence agency extensively regarding the rt, and he answered any questions posed by dia concerning the trip during those briefings. How is that possible. Kasie hunt, what are people saying on capitol hill . I talked to Jason Chaffetz yesterday. Theres not a lot of dancing around it. I said, hey, did Michael Flynn break the law in doing this . He said, well, theres no indication he complied with the law. I think chaffetz obviously is a little bit freed up. Hes not going to run again for congress, likely going to run for governor of utah and head home. It seems like hes relatively determined to take Michael Flynn with him on the way out. This is something that will put additional pressure on the white house because it is a bipartisan set of concerns. Chaffetz was pressed, too, on how much does their investigation relate to these broader investigations into russian meddling. He said, look, we play a supportive role, but i think its pretty clear privately at least that they are doing what they can to try to support it. David ignatius, how does the vetting process work in this case . How does he get payments from turkey . How is he a Foreign Agent for turkey. Its not reported and nobody picked that up in the vetting process. As we can see, the vetting process for the Trump Administration itself was almost nonexistent, at least in the case of mike flynn. It doesnt appear anybody asked him these questions. The letter was sent by Elijah Cummings in december saying, hey, what about the work youre doing on behalf of turkey. This is at a time he was publishing op eds. No questions seemed to be asked seriously at the trump transition team. Michael flynn is a paradox. He was known as a meticulous officer, a master of tactical intelligence when he was in some of the most secret units that the u. S. Military has. This violation that hes now accused of is something so sloppy. Tens of thousands, probably millions of americans get asked for basic information on security clearances. You have to list contacts, money you receive, people you met. Its routine. Every time a security clearance is apparently he did not list the contacts with russians, the money he received in january when he was getting the security clearance. Thats separate from what he didnt tell his colleagues in the Trump Administration. Thats the one thats really a head scratcher for me. Its so routine. He failed to do it, as he failed to do other things he should have in this period, and then rolls into the white house and has a very quick sudden end. Katty. It speaks to Donald Trumps desire to have general flynn there at almost any cost at the beginning of the administration. He had grown close to him. Nobody else supported him from the National Security side. He trusted him and wanted him there in the white house. If that meant wavering on the protocols of the security clearances, he would make sure flynn was there. The question now is we dont know if theres anything there on the russia stuff. Every time the white house denies documents, it adds to the perception that they somehow have something to hide. I cant for the life of me understand why at this stage the white house would be doing that. Well get to that in one second, showing you another example of that yesterday we enraged Elijah Cummings. To davids point, its a mystery. Mike flynn is today a mystery. He worked for general mcchrystal in afghanistan running intelligence. Multiple sources you hear there was no finer person for the job and no better person at doing the job than general mike flynn in afghanistan. Something happened to this man along the way to have this sloppiness. Theres a reason barack obama selected him, mika. To your point, the House OversightCommittee Leaders challenged the Trump Administration to provide information on flynn. The white house has so far denied a request for answers relative to flynns payments from the turkish and russian governments and his contacts with foreign nationals. The administration argues that because flynns screening predated the start of the administration, quote, the documents generally would not be in the possession, custody or control of this office. Here is press Secretary Sean Spicer yesterday in the briefing. We didnt assume the white house until january 20th at noon. So we dont have the documents prior to assuming the white house. They listed for every call and contact he made, which is an extraordinary number. Thats a very unwieldy request, to document every call that he made. Every document thats asked for, my understanding he got them. How about the calls he was making during a transition on behalf of future President Trump. Arent those things you should have responsibility and obligation to provide if you can . The question is if you can. When you ask for every call thats a pretty to ask for every call or contact that a National Security adviser made is pretty outlandish, if you will. I listened to mr. Spicer today talk about claiming that they dont have documents. I was very upset just listening to that because they do have documents. As a matter of fact, they have told us they have documents, but they found every excuse under the sun not to produce the documents. This is not some witch hunt. This is about a fight for the soul of our democracy. Massive, unwieldy response. Hes acting as if this is 1948 talking about spicer. Its unwieldy, no way we can do this, why dont you just ask us to dig to the center of the earth. Can i have the november and december cell phone bill. Thats it, boom. So massive and unwieldy, it boggles the imagination to try to even begin to grasp is it credible at all. Can i have my november and december bill . Sure. Where would you like it spent . 1600 pennsylvania avenue, care of sean. Its not hard. This is easy. Especially they have to have had logs or they should have had logs when hes talking to foreign leaders. Its not massive. Look, we all fill out forms. You trust the person who filled out the form to tell the truth, and beyond that theres not a whole hell of a lot else we can do about it which is not enough when youre vetting somebody who will be at the right hand of the president of the United States in handling National Security measures. What are the chances hes got something to hide and the white house is helping him . I dont know. The thing is, David Ignatius, the fact that you could very easily get this information. Youre acting like this is the most difficult request put forward by an Oversight Committee makes you look guilty. I dont think theyre guilty on this. Thats my gut. I think flynn showed an extraordinary amount of bad judgment, its kind of like they lie about every contact theyve ever had with russians and then you find out later that they met with russians and you wonder, why do they keep lying about things or obstructing on things that really have reasonable explanations if they would come forward in the beginning . I have the same question, joe. Its as if they feel one breach of the dam and the entire inundation will come in on top of them. You have to choose when to fight your fights if youre in the situation the white house is in. Theyre facing months of investigation from two congressional committees, from the fbi. You have to decide what are you going to fight here. Theyve already made the decision to let flynn go. Hes on his own. Hes got legal counsel, fighting this as best he can. Why the white house would say were absolutely not going to give you any records at all, it really doesnt make sense unless they intend to fight every single battle along the way, and thats a recipe what a year were going to have if thats the case. Thats what i dont understand. If flynn made a mistake, just help the people investigating that mistake. They dont need to cover up for Michael Flynn. The government is set to run out of money on saturday, but there are signs the risk of a shutdown is abating, the white house possibly delaying the timing on the main sticking point, funding, a down payment along the wall on the mexico border. Is President Trump willing to sign a Government Spending bill that does not include that money . Yeah. I think the bill, at least the offer we received from the democrats the last couple days included a good bit of money for Border Security. In case anybody have any question, the wall is going to get built and the wall is going to stop drugs and stop a lot of people from coming in that shouldnt be here. I watch the shows and the pundits in the morning, they dont know what theyre talking about. The wall gets built, 100 . Soon. Were already preparing, doing plans, doing specifications, doing a lot of work on the wall and the wall gets built. In your first term its certainly, yeah, sure, sure. Weve got plenty of time. A lot of time. Our priorities are clear going into fy 17, the remainder of budgeting for that, well continue to ask in fy 18. So its delayed for now . No one said delayed. Theres two budget processes. Well end fy 17 this week. We hope to continue to get funding for both Border Security and home labd security and National Defense as weve always maintained. When we come to fy 18 that starts at the beginning of october, end of september, in that next budget well go for the next group of money. By the way, you can see why, the sean spicer variety show outrates the soap operas in the afternoon. Its the best variety show since flip wilson. The ratings are good. Tweeted from the breitbart article, picked it up from what the president said yesterday. I watch these shows and the pundits in the morning, they dont know what theyre talking about. Ive got to say i take that personally for our friends over at fox friends. He doesnt watch us, doesnt watch cnn. So to insult steve and greg and is it greg . Greg brian. Steve and brian and ainsley. Im working hear so thats why i dont watch it. Why would you insult reince had like 80 number one books, by the way. Hes great. Those three are really nice, good people. Doing their jobs. You get the president of the United States tweeting negative things. Im going to read this again. Im so insulted for them. Its like he bites the hand that feeds him. Theyre so nice to him. He was very clear in that recent interview, he doesnt watch. Hes not watching. Hes given it up. I watch these shows this was yesterday and the pundits in the morning, they dont know what theyre talking about. Ive got to say, everything ive heard about our friends over at fox friends, these are good people and they work hard. They dont deserve, willie, the president of the United States attacking them at these press conferences. Using the bully pulpit. I guess hes calling them fake news . No. He says they dont know what theyre talking about. Couldnt be more clear in that interview. He watches fox friends. Who is he sayingali at fox friends . That is unkind. It really is. Theyre very supportive. Theyre nice. The triggering issue here which was the border wall, that triggered the conversation. On monday trump says im not going to let the border wall hold up this issue. The next morning the white house scrambles and says the border wall is still a priority. Trump comes out yesterday and says the border wall is still a priority. He still wants a wall. The question is, is he willing to go to the wall for the wall . You have Marsha Blackburn saying yesterday, actually wall, fence, it could be a combination of the two. Talking about blimps and drones, i dont know wild coyotes with cameras on their heads. Am i the only one thinking when i say mulvaney, he says one thing and the president of the United States says another thing. And sean disseminates it. Its almost as if theres a staff level basically saying, no, theres not going to be a wall right now. The president saying theres going to be a wall. Like nikki haley, she speaks a completely different language. Im miming it. Shes pretty good at that. You cant really see it, but it will be there. Dont do that because people are going to be stuck to that. Its a wall. You just cant see it. Is that dirty. No. What did i do. President trump, youre right, sometimes she does act moronic. Im miming a wall. Is that dirty . Jen . Youre good. I got a signal for you. Still ahead on morning joe are we done . Is that it . Clearly. Kasie hunt, you chime in on the wall. What are they going to do with this wall . Dont do any dirty hand signals. Wild coyotes with cameras on their head or what . I mostly think members of congress wish donald trump and Nick Mulvaney would stop talking about the wall. You talk to republicans in the hallway. Shh, if you stop talking about it well Start Building it without any headlines. At the same time were talking about a billion dollars. Thats going to build, what . Six inches . Ill mime it for them. It will be the most beautiful i want to see the blimps that say trump usa going over hot air balloons. From calexico to san antonio. For sanity, wipe wouldnt you have a virtual wall. Maybe just welcome from trump. I dont think so. Going the other way. Still ahead on morning joe, all 100 senators are set to come to the white house today for a briefing on north korea. Well talk about w