Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20160829 10:00:00 : compa

Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20160829 10:00:00

U. S. For drones. The nationwide guidelines which apply to commercial flights include a weight limit of 55 pounds. And a ban on nighttime flying. Theres also new licensing requirements. And we should note that donald trump and Hillary Clinton have no scheduled Public Events today. Does it for us on this monday. Morning joe starts right now. That establishment media assault on me. They have said it that the establish. Media assault on me has been the greatest that theyve ever seen in the political history of our country. I feel that. I feel it. I know it. Even today some major papers fail to mention how strong our poll numbers have become over the last twoweek period. The media is totally dishonest. Deny people the positive change that theyre looking for and they deserve. They take phrases and statements and chop them up and take them out of context and then discuss them for days and days and days. Always trying to demean and belittle just whatever they can do to demean and belittle. Our incredible movement. They have a movement. This is one of the great movements. Were going to take our country back from the death spiral that its currently in. I dont think anybody is really belittling the movement. I think theyre just belittling the stupid things he says. Lets just launch right in, i guess. Monday, august 29th. With us on set we have managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and cohost of msnbc. John heilmann and author of the book democracy in black and columnist for time magazine eddy jr. Former governor of vermont and former chair of the National Democratic committee howard dean. Former ted cruz communication director now an msnbc political director rick tyler. Rick tyler, when someone is whining about the media that much, what does it tell you . That theyre losing. Theyre losing. Exactly. When they whine about the media and whine about the polls instead of talking about the issues that matter to americans, that means theyre losing. Here we go. Where do we begin with this stuff. Dwli i think well start in chicago where the Police Brought charges. The response by the republican nominee. Really, really concerning. The death of the cousin of nba allstar dwyane wade. Two brothers are responsible for the shooting death of nykea aldridge. A 32yearold mother of four. She was shot while pushing a baby stroller friday afternoon after registering one of her children for the school year. Aldridge is not believed to be the intended target of the men who police say have gang affiliations. Both were on parole one released from prison just two weeks before the shooting. Aldridges death quickly found its way into the political arena on saturday when donald trump tweeted about it. Here it is. Dwyane wades cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. Just what ive been saying. Africanamericans will vote trump. Trump misspelled his name in the tweet. While we keep this a mother, a young mother gunned down in chicago and the republican nominee immediately puts out a tweet that ends in all caps, vote trump with an exclamation point. How do you even begin to explain the type of mind that could do that . I dont know. I mean, you just kind of something has gone wrong that he lacks empathy. It actually reveals in a certain way how he views africanamerican communities. Right. So, instead of in that moment offering his condolences, his prayers for the families, for the children whove lost their mother. He only saw folks who empathy for the murdered mother. None whatsoever. Say vote trump and hes done this before. One of the things people pointed out in the kahn controversy a lack of empathy for mrs. Kahn and why she might not have spoken at the democratic convention because she was in grief over the loss of her son. The irony of it. His argument against Hillary Clinton is she just sees you as votes. Right. He accuses her of doing to the Africanamerican Community what he just did in that tweet. Howard dean, though, what kind of sickness infects a mind that you see somebody gunned down in the streets while pushing a baby stroller and instantaneously your reaction is, see, i told you so. Africanamericans will vote trump. Well, see, heres the problem for trump. This is all about trump. I mean, when he went to new orleans, which is a political thing to do, its after the governor sort of set do you not have anybody coming running down here. Baton rouge. Right, sorry, baton rouge. Its always about trump. It is only about trump for trump. That is sort of the definition of narcissism. I resisted using that word because im not a psychiatrist. We have a political strategist using the word psychopath. No, im lets just take this seriously at this point. You know, i think at other stages of other campaigns a network might be snarky and like get a psychiatrist out. I actually, no, i dont want to its true. Its true. I actually think its time to hear from somebody in the Mental Health community. To look at this person who has been on television for months and to give us a sense of what we have going on here. And, im sorry, lets stop pretending were dealing with someone who we can completely understand. And when you see someone who you think has problems, you know it. And theres not anybody at this table who doesnt think he has some sort of problem. Lets ask the questions. Lets do this at this point. Lets set up someone and ask questions. I think perhaps that may be necessary. Does anyone think thats completely outlandish and only because i have some sort of weird, snarky slant to it. Now we have, first of all, okay, first of all, a psychiatrist cannot come on and diagnose somebody. Talk about the character traits we see repetitively here. I think he meant sociopath. There is a difference. Not a psychopath. Be very careful as describing him as i dont want to describe him as anything. When we do that we suggest that he is this singular figure. Right. That somethings wrong with him. When we do that, it makes it easier for us to kind of account for him. In fact, when we see all of these folks who are supporting trump, we hear all of this stuff all around the country. And we cant say that hes just something mentally wrong with him as an easy way to dismiss him. Ive been asked hundreds of times. I want to understand more fundamentally. Whats going on in the country that would lead us to have him as an option in the first place. Thats a story which we covered. Over the past i would say month, rick tyler, i have known a lot of people supportive of donald trump. Actually moving away. There was an intensity level from a lot of people i know in northwest florida and my home area. A lot of people i have known in all the speeches ive given that were strongly for trump. Or just moving away. And istarted seeing it in the pools. Rick and then howard. Well, thats right. As soon as you gain the nomination, there seemed to be a quick consolidating of the republican base, which was quite surprised. The repetitive unforced errors time and time again and last week on immigration which was the equivalent of Rodney Dangerfield back to school it was just unbelievable how he went out. Was a softening and then a hardening and then you have all the surrogates, including kellyanne saying, no, no, absolutely no change. You can see a dramatic change in his position on immigration. There is a change. Howard . I actually think this is actually a fairly common phenomenon. Trump is losing. People know hes losing. Hes unattractive to some of the people that you were talking about in north florida. When you lose, people are watching you lose, they start to move away. Not the hard core. There are hard core who would be, as eddy was talking, really interesting to analyze. But the people who want to vote republican and working class folks who are just angry, some of them are going peel off and say, do i really want to vote for amnesty don is what im saying. Some people are saying. I wasnt thinking about those people. Brilliant invocation. Thats what some people are calling him now. He corrected the misspelling in his tweet and he doubled down on his tweet. An hour and a half after that, trump offered his condolences to wade and his family. Trumps original sentiment on nykea aldridges death is that africanamericans will vote trump seems to be exactly the kind of thing that hes basing his criticism of Hillary Clinton on over the past week. Hillary clinton is a bigot. Who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. Trumps reaction to the shooting also falls into his similar pattern of him seeing personal, political gain at times of profound tragedy. After the Brussels Airport bombing that killed 32 people in march, trump tweeted i have proven to be far more correct about terrorism and hopefully arizona and utah will be voting for me today. This happened. This tweet happened and keep that up, he tweets this while the body parts of americans are strewn on airport walls and in train stations. And he sees that on his television. He sees the death and destruction that shocked americans. That shocked the world. And hes saying, vote me in arizona and utah today. It is as insensitive as anything ive seen. 44 minutes later he shared an Instagram Video watching this clip from earlier this year. Time and time i have been right about terrorism. Its time to get tough. Two hours later he added my heart and prayers go out to all the victims of the brussels tragedy. Its time to grump tweeted appr and congrats for being right on radical islamic terrorism. I dont want congrats. I want toughness and vigilance. We must be smart. Dr. Dean, where do you start . Well, again, you cant make a psychiatric diagnosis over television. Theres clearly something the matter with this guy. But weve said that before. Trumps reaction to tragedy, his running mate mike pence said it was a creation of the media. No, it wasnt. Do you think that was a president ial reaction to a tragedy . Right after that, he issued a tweet expressing his prayers and his thoughts and his condolences. This is a pattern. When theres a tragedy he sends a tweet how this could help his campaign. Can i just make the point. What donald trump said and tweeted in the last few days than what the clintons have been up ta. Can i me a point, mike penc if any of your children did anything remotely insensitive and heinous, you would take them and sit them down and give them a long, stern lecture about how unchrist like that was. You would do it, mike, because i know you. So, please, dont blame this on the press. Its the guy that you have to stand next to. You made that choice. Im not exactly sure why you did. But you did. But, please, dont blame other people for what donald trump is doing. It is heinous. It is offensive. And it is a horrible example for your children and mine. So, trump has spoken repeatedly in recent weeks about his desire to win the africanamerican vote. It seems he will finally take that vote. Trump will speak at great Faith Ministries in detroit this saturday. Trump will make the swing through michigan on Labor Day Weekend when democrats traditionally stop in detroit for the annual labor day picnic. It comes on the heels of the states twoterm republican governor rebuking trumps statement and that mexico would steal the states claim as the car capital of the world. And weve got a thriving, Manufacturing Sector and im proud of it. Snider has not endorsed in the president ial race. Dold trump said he will head to arizona for a speech on immigration. Trump tweeted last night, i will make a major speech on illegal immigration on wednesday in the great state of arizona. Big crowds looking for a larger venue. Last week his campaign issued contradictory messages about trumps arizona stop would even happen. Announcing an immigration speech at a Downtown Phoenix hotel while his state director said it was about party unity and by friday there were claims it was canceled. Only to be contradicted by the candidate himself who tweeted, changing venue to much larger one. Demand is unreal. Polls looking great. Trumps immigration message has left many confused. He described his position as both softening and hardening. Within a few days of each other. Trump did not elaborate while in iowa this weekend and claiming the media is missing the point. All the media wants to talk about is the 11 Million People or more or less. They have no idea what the number is because we have no control over our country. But my priority and really is for the well being of everybody, but in particular, the 300 million americans and more and all of our hispanic citizens and all of our africanamerican citizens. Legal residents who want a secure border. I mean secure. The one issue that you didnt really address is whether or not the 11 or 12 million undocumented immigrants will be removed by a Deportation Force as you heard mr. Trump say in that clip from november of last year. Is that policy still operative . What you heard him describe there in his usual plain spoken american way was a mechanism, not a policy. I mean, youre going to hear more detail in the next two weeks that lays out all the polici policies. How do they leave . Do they selfdeport or whether you want to call a Deportation Force or something that helps them leave the country immediately as hes previously said hed like to see happen. Look, thats really the question here, john. He has to deal with those agencies and those individuals already responsible for this who arent doing their jobs. What is his position specifically on the undocumented immigrants . Youre going to find out from donald trump very shortly. Hes going to be giving prepared remarks on this issue i think very soon. I dont want to give a date. We dont know. That is sort of remarkable that we dont know. I just dont speak for donald trump. Think about this for 14 months, amnesty don. People are saying it. Theyre calling him amnesty don. For 14 months amnesty don has been putting illegal immigration at the center of amnesty dons campaign. Right, john . And, yet, nobody in amnesty dons own campaign can tell you what amnesty dons position is after amnesty don won the primaries promising to deport 11. Im telling mika here. Poor mika. Poor put upon mika. Put upon mika here that amnesty don was going to get a Deportation Force. But now amnesty don is softening. I thought he was kidding. Now amnesty don this weekend, even amnesty dons own people and surrogates dont know what hes going to do on this. What or when. Sort through amnesty dons statements on immigration and tell us what you think hes going to do. I havent the faintest clue. Really . Isnt it surprising how some people are calling him amnesty don. Some people are saying that. Some people are calling mika, people are calling her that. I thought it was there is so much. Look. The only thing to say about it is his own people dont know. 14 months later. 14 months later. We dont know what his position is. His people dont know what his position is. Which is i still think the classic quote of the week. He hasnt changed his positions, hes just changing his words. Express the whole thing. I think the question is not whether he is changing his position, but whether he has a position. Because if theres this much confusion over what his position is given the history over time, does anybody, whatever he says, is there any reason to believe that that is now his position or that it wont change, again and again. Rick tyler, it does seem what hes saying is he is going to take care of the bad, the bad Illegal Immigrants and send them home. It sounds like thats what he is trying to muddle his way towards. But he still may be on back taxes and doing other things that have earned him the nickname amnesty don. Amongst probably millions and millions of people across the fruited plains and now people are saying where do you think amnesty don is right now on his position . Look, joe, i argued all through the primary that you couldnt trust donald trump and he would change his position and thats what happened. He is now trying to recover from the catastrophe of the sean hannity town hall where he literally on the fly changed his position right there. You saw some of the reaction from the crowd. They were horrified. They were calling him amnesty don. What he realized whats happening his base will not allow him to move from his previous position. His previous position is the one that he staked out that distinguished himself from every other republican running. And now in the hannity interview, he seemed to be to the left of jeb bush and marco rubio on immigration. Has he backed off that position now . I think hes trying to return to his previous position. But heres the problem, what he wants to do, of course, is expand his base and get beyond his base, but his base wont let him. A low ceiling and a high floor and it wont let him move. The problem is when you look at the quinnipiac poll it looks like Hillary Clinton who reached over 50 in that poll has a lot more head room. By the way, can i mention something about the, i think David Plouffe meant and i appreciate dr. Dean not making a diagnosis over the air. Well, heres the thing, though. We look at Mental Health much differently than we did in years past. We dont require people to use firearms and serve in the military with Mental Health issues and we do require that, i dont know if we require it, but we always have seen president ial medical records. Why not, why not a Mental Health evaluation . Also, it shouldnt be something that is in the shadows. Mental health is just like dibad diabetes or some other physical health. This is not something im making a joke about. Im serious. Ive been asked hundreds of times and so have you. The problem is 1964 there were psychiatrists that all came together in a Magazine Article and goldwater was mentally unfit to be president of the United States. The American Psychiatry Association after that put in something called goldwater rule. Informally called goldwater rule which does not make diagnoses not publicly who have not treated them and not given them consent. Ask someone high up

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