You know i could do this all day. I really could. But i wont. I wont. Okay. One more. One more. Know i could do this l day. I really could. One more. Donald trump calls africanamericans thugs, muslims terrorists, latinos rapists and criminals and women bimbos. Hillary clinton believes racism, hatred, injustice and bigotry have no place in our country. She fights for us. I have to say, i do just love to see how she gets under Donald Trumps thin skin. Good morning. It is tuesday, june 28th. June 28th. Yes. Oh, my gosh. You know what meacham was telling me june 28th. It was a massive day. It was, as jon said, the battle of Sullivan Island, the first in 1776. I feel like theres something on the schedule. The first decisive victory over brits. They were fighting over the restaurants in charleston. The creation of carolina day. Okay. From the battles of today. That happened today. Thats not what i was talking about. With us on set we have managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and cohost of all due respect. I watched it in its entirety. I did, too, the whole hour. Its an all new episode. Mark halperin, former Communications Director for george w. Bush nicolle wallace. Shes great. Pulitzer prize winner jon meacham is here as well. Carolina day is today because of the battle of sul advance
island. Yesterday i dont even get nerd humor. They are idiots. Dont listen to them. Did you see what happened yesterday, nicole . It was on marks show. What happened . Ice in the country, 300,000 people. Iceland is green and greenland is ice. And the hearts of britain are black this morning, what a horrible, horrible display. Worse than brexit. The worst in the history of english soccer. Ochblgt i was actually talking about what happened in ohio where the democratic president ial nominee teamed up you didnt like it . No, i didnt say that. You had a little scowl on your face. Liked it fine. Senator warren and Hillary Clinton, they teamed up and took on donald trump. Before their joint appearance
trump sent out a tweet saying crooked hillary is wheeling out one of the least productive senators in the u. S. , senate Goofy Elizabeth Warren who lied on heritage. Yesterday it was warren who called trump goofy. Donald trump says hell make America Great again. Its right there. No, its stamped on the front of his goofy hat. You want to see goofy, look at him in that hat. When donald trump says great, i ask, great for who exactly . For millions of kids struggling to pay for an education . For millions of seniors barely surviving on Social Security. For families who dont fly to scotland to play golf . When donald trump says hell make America Great, he means make it even greater for rich guys just like donald trump. Great for the guys. Who dont care how much they have squeezed from everybody else. Great for the guys who always want more, because thats who donald trump is, the guy who wants it all for himself. Watch out, because he will crush you into the dirt to get whatever he wants. Thats who he is. I am so delighted to be here with my friend and a great leader, senator elizabeth war n warren. And no one works harder to make sure wall street never, never wrecks main street again. I got into this race because i wanted to even the odds for people who have the odds stacked against them. And this is not a time for half
measures. To build an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top, weve got to go big and weve got to go bold. Lets set the goal of making sure wall street and the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. So you noticed that, her sharpness on wall street. You always catch me, the things i say when were not on tv. I noticed it, too. I thought i got uncomfortable listening to the things Elizabeth Warren said about wall street, which were captured in her first book, with hillary standing right there. I thought it was proof i thought it was almost a victory lap she pulled clinton over to this. Right. But then you said you got sweaty i got nervous because that really wasnt hillarys message until she got into hot water rainfall its become her message, but one of many. What Elizabeth Warren is doing
is focus what one of Hillary Clintons messages has been but its been hard of her. She hangs out with gazillion aires. Shes one of them. Lets talk about Elizabeth Warren. This is what she does best. Years ago we did something at fenway park. Was she running for something . Yes. She was just so good. It wasnt even this, what she can do so well, attack mode, it comes from the gut. Donald trump represents everything shes fighting. Its perfect, natural. Shes really good with her roots being from oklahoma, shes really good connecting on a personal, intimate, honest level. Shes not afraid to like really share her background, if you read her book. I think shes extremely useful
for the clinton campaign. She really is, mark halperin. Oklahoma makes harvard here. Its a powerful combination. She absolutely loves going after donald trump. Its one of the things publicly she has done best since shes gotten on the National Stage. Shes great at it. Its strange what is she great at . Shes unafraid of him. Its everything she is to fight back. Her ability to capture for a lot of the electorate the things people are made uncomfortable by donald trump. Its amazing to me that no one else in the party has really matched her for that. Nobody does. Not only this party, jon meacham, but the other party. I find myself watching Elizabeth Warren going after donald trump saying why is she so good at it, and everybody else is so bad at it. Whether you agree with Elizabeth Warren or not im talking about
prizefighter matching against prize fighter. Nobody can beat the crazy southpaw donald trump but she goes in and jabs. Shes really good at it. The senator from massachusetts cannot be unapologetic democratic voice, the Democratic Party should close up u know, ted kennedy played that role. Thats a place where her base is fairly her actual electoral base is small and devoted to her. Shes an interesting midpoint between the specificity that senator sanders ran on. It was very easy to identify his message. Free college, single pay, whatever it was. Senator clinton less so. She sort of warms her up without going all the way over to the center. She reminds me, twitter might break when i say this but just bear with me for a second. What palin did when she joined the mccain ticket is not dissimilar what warren does when she joins Hillary Clinton. Mccain was establish men,
steady, can do the job but didnt fill stadiums. Clinton is steady, can do the job. She does not fill arenas. Warren provides that electricity on the stump. The early days when sarah palin actually was, and people dont remember this now because shes so absolutely horrific on tvs. She packed arenas. She packed arenas. She attacked. This is the question. What is it about Elizabeth Warren and ill add sarah palin that they step onto the stage and they are big. Ill give you an example. Like scott walker. I love scott walker. Well get to him. Early on i said scott walker is kind of my guy. Maybe im with him, maybe im with jeb. But i always worried. Will scott walker be able to fill the big stage. What shocked a lot of us about sarah palin back in 8 and
surprising a bit about Elizabeth Warren she steps onto that stage and im not saying shes bigger than hillary but shes as big as anybody on the National Stage when she gets behind the microphone. Why is that . Its not surprising at all to me. Chat about this. Lets talk about this. Im trying. Go ahead. Its not surprising at all. Im trying. I really am. Youve known her a long time. Ive known her a long time. You look at her sort of her trajectory, she has been since she was at harvard obsessed with the concept of bankruptcy and whats going on with america. From watching her parents, right . From watching her parents. Sitting in Bankruptcy Court writing a paper and watching families come in and realizing they look like her, they look like you, they look like everybody else. This was a problem. America was getting screwed. She knew it decades ago. She creates Consumer Protection bureau. She gets run out by republicans because the president is too weak to keep her in there. You know what she does . She runs for senate. Shes not going to run away. Im talking, though, not about her quality, im talking about filling the stage, performance. Why is she led zeppelin. You get them on the stage, they fill the stage. What is it about Elizabeth Warren, and i was asking this yesterday, why does she fill the stage like led zeppelin. Shes like palin, unapologetic populist unafraid of the establishment. Unafraid. And theres no doubt, this is a comparison to palin is constructive. No doubt being a woman and being able to stand up to the establishment, which is mostly men, is electrifying, it really is. Its conviction versus calculation. Like Bernie Sanders. She has these convictions. She doesnt have to worry about how it plays in a purple state. She can help senator clinton with the people extraordinary number of people in the democratic primary who werent excited about her. Donald trump by the way, you have seen this all along. I guess thats why this question is so elementary to you. Youve been saying she was going to be her Vice President all along. So maybe this is just obvious to you. To me seeing her, though, on stage, owning a stage, the way that politicians the way politicians dont own the stage but very few do, shes got something. And they had more chemistry than i expected. I thought that to me was the revelation yesterday. People to me talk about how they personally dislike each other. I dont know if they do or not. But on stage hillary has this thing, she wants to win. I think they can act. Ill tell you one final thing, i love tim kaine. If i were Hillary Clinton id want tim kaine to be my Vice President. I understand why popular for people in the party, but the more i saw Elizabeth Warren on the stage yesterday, the more i thought how dull in the other pick Elizabeth Warren will be. I hope they are polling her and i hope shes coming out well in the polls. If not, shes going to make her vp pick look like a dud. There was obviously can you imagine all the surrogates that came running to Donald Trumps defense yesterday in the attacks against him. Wow, boom, boom, boom. One after the other. So there was a lineup of big names, people that wanted to defend the republican presumptive. Nobody was there. Scott brown was there talking about dna tests. You only need a couple. Pickup truck guy . Ancestry. Com. Got it. Boston. Ancestry. Com makes sense because he wants Elizabeth Warren where are the surrogates. Somebody needs to be a surrogate with credibility. So donald trump fought back withly beth warrens attack. I hope she selects her as Vice President ial running mate. Ill speak openly. She is one of the least productive senators in the United States. We call her pocahontas for a reason. She said she was native american. She used it for her career. I think shes racist. What she did was very racist. Nicole closing her eyes. Former senator scott brown held a Bizarre Press Conference organized i know they were
sad they organized this, Republican National committee where he suggested that dna testing may have to come into play. We all know shes not native american. Shes not 1 32nd. She has no native american background except for what her family told her. The easy answer on that, as you all know, is that harvard and penn can release the records. She can authorize the release of those records. She can take a dna test. She can release the records her self. Theres never been any effort. This is when you know youre losing. A debate. When your opponent is talking about working class americans, fighting hard to bring working class americans back into the mainstream of American Economic life and you are talking about
whether someone is 1 32nd native american and talking about dna testing. This is so bizarre. This is june 27th version of the Trump University nonsense that happened yesterday. June 27th version of Trump University nonsense. What the hell is wrong with them. Are they stupid . Are they stupid . They say they are going to turn the package. Turn it. Toward the general election, more elegant. You cant if your candidate is releasing ridiculous cartoonlike kindergartenlike statements. Here is the deal, if youre going to turn the page, turn the page. They are trying to especially the muslim ban. Turn the page, cant keep turning back. Cant keep moving forward. Thats the discipline. They have to be disciplined up and down the line. This pocahontas nonsense, goofy nonsense. Doesnt work. Doesnt work. Makes them look small. Were in the general election. Anyway, Trump Campaign issued a press release calling warren a sellout for ignoring clintons ties to wall street. Quote, this attempt to pandering to the sanders wing is another example of a typical political calculation by d. C. Insiders. That actually is good. Thats a great statement. Thats what they should have done, mark halperin, instead of this stupid pocahontas dna bs, talk about how Hillary Clinton has been captive of the wall street elite for decades and made millions and millions and millions of dollars pandering to wall street personally and politically. Put that statement out. Forget the pocahontas stuff and, boom, youve got a good counterattack. They didnt do it. I think trump is going to give a speech on trade and i dont know how Hillary Clinton is going to position herself. It puts her on the defensive. A lot of people to vote for her
in ohio and pennsylvania. If they do, that they are focusing on issues in real life with real people and not punching down with mockery one of her surrogates. Pretty clear to anyone watching the strengths and weaknesses. By wait, it works if youre going up against weak republicans who dont know how to fight back. It does not work anymore against Elizabeth Warren. Just leech it alone. She will come back and punch you in the face and get the better of you. Also evidence to me theres no traditional campaign. If it were, the surrogate operation would get in touch that was a strategic message. You have to pick a message. Running against john kerry there was an internal debate about how to go against him. We nu we would lose if we couldnt settle on one. One line of attack and you repeat it every day. They are getting there. They had a surrogate. They are moving on the muslim ban, mass deportation. They hired ted cruzs communication guy. They have got a surrogate. Scott brown. Yeah, okay. Anyway, they are moving in the right direction, but the problem is youve got to be all in. You cant be ill tell you this. If they yesterday had just gone after Hillary Clintons wall street ties, Elizabeth Warren would have had nothing to say. She would have been on the defensive because she knows Hillary Clinton has been a captive of wall street along with bill clinton. They are chummy, closer to wall street than anybody in politics. We could have looked at what Elizabeth Warren said in the past about Hillary Clinton and wall street. If they had money, they could have put up a web video, an ad, a little buy. I think in her first book she writes about clinton era policies on wall street. Firing on all cylinders could have brabted thcketed that effe. I think they are moving that direction. You think clinton can make this bid . Ive been saying no for a long time. He has to. I think they can. Im starting to think they can. I think yesterday we saw a confluence of the old and the new. I think youre going to see the new pushing out the old, which is basically somebody having the power to tell donald trump, stop tweeting. Right running mate, strong convention, first debate. Couple of surrogates would help. Strong communication director. We shall see. I think im starting to believe
because they survived three or four of them, horrific weeks, the polls, they understand its a near death experience. If everything im hearing up and down the line in that organizati organization, they get it. Donald is donald. Tomorrow he may set his hair on fire. No. He would never do that. By the way, have we noticed i know somebody has, both boris and trump, their hair. Its unbelievable. Its the same. Its the same hair and they have both completely trashed the elites in their respective countries. By the way, ive got to say the british elites are even more clueless. So much worse than ours. They are so clueless, so contemptuous. Im just saying, so contemptuous of the people who voted to leave. I love what the queen asked,
tina brown reported this. Everybody is sitting there saying its so awful, were leaving. The queen looked up and said, give me three good reasons why we should remain connected with the eu. Silence. Of course, nobody is going to tell the queen. Im sorry, it was a onesided deal that helped the eu. These elites, british elites over the past 48 hours have just showed how clueless and out of touch they are with the peopl