Ls nitpicking. But i only had a salad. It was a buffalo chicken salad. Salad. Weve updated math to make the equations more about stuff modern kids can relate to in a segment called popular mathematics. Here we go. If you take Bernie Sanders, plus the spice girl, it equals old spice. If you take donald trump plus ted cruz plus john kasich it equals president hillary
clinton. [ cheers and applause ] all right, good morning. Its thursday, april 7. Welcome to morning joe in washington. With us here we have senior Political Editor and White House Correspondent for the Huffington Post, sam stein. Hello. Did you do way too early today, too . No, thats why i feel fresh. You got to sleep in. Msnbc political analyst and former chairman of the Republican National committee, michael steel. Columnist in and associate editor for the Washington Post, David Ignatius. Washington anchor for bbc world news America Katty Kay and up in new york, of course, willie geist along with veteran columnist in and msnbc contributor mike barnicle. Good to have you all on board. Willie, it is the columns over the past couple days have just been gloriously predictable. Dana milbank in the Washington Post says the voters have spoken, never trump. Wisconsin has spoken. Forget the fact that trump is over 30 in new york. The wall street journal yesterday wrote Donald Trumps political obituary. And i think to prove just how weak trumps candidacy is, he packed in over 10,000 people in bethpage new york last night. I think it was more like 15. Well, i think he had to turn some people away. But this is now no doubt, willie, just as we saw as they predicted in june, july, august, september, october, november, december and january this is the sign of a dying campaign. We knew it couldnt last. And the people of wisconsin have spoken and as we know, as goes oshkosh, so goes the rest of the world. Hes obviously showed some weakness in wisconsin. He got beat pretty badly but he walked right into new york the next day, got that crowd on long island. His real clear average remains over 30 points. Hes moving into his strengths and i would point you to one
cover since i have the new york tabloids with me. This is the New York Daily News. If you want the pulse of new york city, at least, heres what it says if we can grab this shot. Ill hold it right there. Take the fu train, ted. If you dont live in new york, those are the symbols for the subway lines. Right. Okay. Michael steele, weve been talking about it for some time, you cant even speak of political reality these days without people saying youre on the trump train. No, everybody else is on the derangement train. To suggest wisconsin is dispositive from what happens here into the convention is extraordinarily stupid. I cant believe the stupid comments i heard last night on every network and i dont usually say the words, but just stupid. I define stupid as somebody saying the same thing nine months in a row and thinking
that if they just wait, can i just Say Something . Gene robinson on all the networks was the voice of reason. God bless gene robinson. There were people going its going to be like nazi germany and its going to be like argentina. Theres violence everywhere. And gene was like, guys, i lived in argentina. Were not there. Just take a deep breath. And no germany, either. Despite the very good accent, joe. I filled miserably on ted cruz. I can do ted cruz. I cant do ted cruz. But all im asking for is straight reporting. It cant be done. Dont let your hatred get away. Were past that. That doesnt mean he doesnt say finsive things, he says offensive things, ive written tough columns, as tough as anybody else. But our job is to report what is happening and not what were begging and pleading and praying
and hoping will happen. What you saw was the convergence of things coming together. That is not a donald trump base. So those republicans are not like the republicans you saw in earlier contests. Theyre closer to the establishment. Exit polls somewhere like 53 think that the economy is in the wrong spot. Theres a big difference in the mindset there. But the media wants to write a narrative that they just cant that doesnt bear itself out in reality. Because theyve been wrong so long. They think if they just keep writing it, thats the way it is. The reality is you swing now into the strength of donald trump. This will be a test for him. I have to say, he has to do a
reset on his messaginmessaging. He has to stop in one sense talking to himself about his campaign and open it up more but that doesnt change the narrative. Ted cruz with new york value is at 17 , David Ignatius. New york is going to be decisive and weve gotten past wisconsin nice and we can all really focus. The one point i think i look at these numbers, the republicans are heading toward a real car wreck of a convention because there will be strong trump opponents to the verge of walking out if he wins the nomination and there will be strong Trump Supporters who will be furious and think theyve been cheated if he doesnt. And this is the least attractive scenario, i would think, far Major Political party and thats
one that i dont think, joe, theyll be able to solve. I dont think they can solve it, either. You look at the rage and the hatred right now focused towards donald trump mainly its coming, catty, from the right. Mainly its coming from the conservative establishment, so to speak, the people that conservatives have been reading and hearing and watching for the past 20 years. They seem to be the ones the most enraged if you go on your twitter feed and its constant. And whats odd is that its interesting you suggest david that this is the worst scenario is a breokered convention for the party but that party seems to be clinging to the hope of a brokered convention in the bid that this might throw them up paul ryan or but they might get ted cruz. Imagine the emotions of Trump Supporters on the day after a brokered convention. Totally agree. Well hear from ted cruz and donald trump in just a moment but first the gloves are off in the race for the democratic nomination. It got started yesterday right here on morning joe when joe asked Hillary Clinton in light of Bernie Sanders recent interview with the New York Daily NewsEditorial Board if her opponent is qualified to be president. So the question and im serious if you werent running today and you looked at Bernie Sanders, would you say this guy is ready to be president of the United States . Well, i think he hasnt done his home work and hed been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadnt really studied or understood and that does raise a lot of questions. And really what it goes to is for voters to ask themselves can he deliver what hes talking about . And i will leave it to voters to decide who of us can do the job that the country needs. Who can do all aspects of the
job, both on the economic domestic issues and on National Security and Foreign Policy. All right. And then senator sanders said this at a rally last night in philadelphia. She has been saying lately that she thinks that i am quote unquote not qualified to be president. [ boos ] let me just say in response to secretary clinton, i dont believe that she is qualified if she is [ cheers and applause ] if she is, through her super pac, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. [ cheers and applause ] i dont think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in iraq. [ cheers and applause ] i dont think you are qualified if you supported the panama free
trade agreement. [ cheers and applause ] something i very strongly opposed and which, as all of you know, has allowed corporations and wealthy people all over the world to avoid paying their taxes to their countries. Late last night, clintons press secretary brian fallon responded to those remarks on twitter saying. Sanders did know such thing, his campaign released a statement that began that statement linked readers to
a Washington Post article with the headline clinton questions whether sanders is qualified to be president which cited secretary clintons remarks on morning joe. Both candidates have news conferences scheduled for 9 00 this morning right after morning joe. I feel like im in trouble. And Bernie Sanders will join us on set in new york tomorrow morning. Mike barnicle, you were there with us. I tried to get Hillary Clinton four times three or four times to say that Bernie Sanders was unqualified to be president of the United States and just like my interview with rick santorum, you know, i start asking a question, i keep going until i get an answer or give up and after three or four attempts with secretary clinton i gave up because she was not going to say the words he is unqualified to be president of the United States. Was that your take away from the interview as well or am i missing something . She clearly did not sayBernie Sanders was not qualified to be president and under senator sanders logic in his comeback, is john kerry qualified to be secretary of state . Because he, too, voted for many of the things that Hillary Clinton has cited in senator sanders indictment. This is going to be a 12day Tension Convention here in new york state between senator sanders and secretary clinton. And to the larger issue of what you were talking about just a few moments ago, theres a group of people in new york state who are going to be really the pivot point for what happens Going Forward with regard to donald trump, with regard to sanders, with regard to secretary clinton and theyre called voters and theyre going to vote a week from tuesday and theyre going to be a better barometer of whats going on in this election in any polls we can put out or any claims or disclaimers that come back and forth between these two candidates. Our members of the chattering classes on twitter she did say he didnt do his
home work. But she never said not qualified. And in her statement she rode that she said this. This whole thing is kind of absurd and its fair to say Hillary Clinton is probably one of the more qualified on resume candidates for president thats come along in a while. Thats not her problem. Her problem is certain judgments shes made along the way. And as mike note, not just john kerry, barack obama did all the things Bernie Sanders questioned about qualification and he was elected president , therefore hes qualified. This is one of those exchanges that is so dumb, so tedious you start scratching your head. It also shows the elusive role of fact in this campaign. People are asserting things increasingly without any connection to solid fact. When donald trump accuses ted cruz of orchestrate ago super pac in violation of the law, hes just out there and there
dont seem to be facts to tie it to. Same thing with the allegations about ted cruzs wife, whatever they were and now this allegation of being unqualified. Its a Strange Campaign where people say things and they act as if so this is a turn in terms of the democratic race. Up until recently it hadnt gotten that person nasty but its clear the two candidates and campaigns are grating on each other a little bit here. And willie, ill say as well and i completely agree with David Ignatius, i found its slipping into a lot of the reporting. Hyperbolic reporting not just on internet outlets but also Mainstream Media outlets trying to drive a narrative and theres always an overreach. There seems to be a factual overreach and weve pointed it out going back to june or july a story has taken and then conclusions are drawn on the front pages of newspapers and they end up helping the
candidates theyre trying to destroy. Watching that interview, i wasnt sitting here with you guys but i thought it was perhaps implied in her answer that he was not qualified to be president. She didnt say it explicitly but when you asked she laid out the reasons and made the case why he wouldnt be the best president. I think what were seeing is the intersection of two things being thrust into this new york spotlight right now. One being her annoyance that hes still around and in this race. [ laughter ] and his being that she believe this is belongs to her and he ought to get out of the race. Theres also a big fight between the two of them about this law he voted for that would not hold gun makers liable, the maker of the ar15. She sent out a very tough tweet about him saying base clip that he should not be siding against families of sandy hook. So were seeing this on many Different Levels and were in for a long week and a half here. Add to that, willie, General Electric chairman and Ceo Jeff Immelt is joining the chorus of critics blasting Bernie Sanders for that interview with the new
york daily news. During the interview, sanders said ge is among the companies destroying the moral fabric of america by shutting down major plants in the u. S. And sending jobs to low wage countries. Immelt responded yesterday with an on ned the washington which reads in part wow. Ouch. David ignatius, thats scalding. I can tell you as a resident of a state that ran General Electric because of prohibitive taxes and regulations, ge does have really good jobs with really good wages that any state in america would love to have. This is the manufacturer that Bernie Sanders has been dreaming would come more to america so for the head of it ouch. How many jobs did they send overseas, though . The one point i thought, joe and mika, about this whole flap is that the interview with Bernie Sanders by the daily news, which started this whole thing, is a wonderful example of journal. They pins people down and the reason this makes news is the more the daily news tried to pin Bernie Sanders down on what these programs mean, breaking up big banks, new yorks got big
banks, he had no answer. That kind of journalism, Charlie Sykes did in the wisconsin, that pushes candidate what is do you mean, what will it be like . And what bob woodward with donald trump in the post, too. Still ahead, pivot to new york. Donald trump plays to a hometown crowd while ted cruz does his best to win over the bronx. As we mentioned, tomorrow senator Bernie Sanders joins us live in studio. But first, heres bill karins with a check on the radar after a night of violent storms. Bill . Montgomery county, alabama, was hit by what looks to be a tornado. The pictures shows huge trees that came down, a lot of homes have significant damage. Hankfully we didnt hear any reports of any significant injuries or fatalities but as the sun comes up theyll try to see how bad it was. Those storms raced last night through georgia, now south carolina. They just crossed i95. Myrtle beach, will ming on tmine next in the line. A lot of rain up the east coast. Well see travel days. At 9 00 a. M. , the heaviest rain over the top of washington, d. C. Down to richmond. By the time we get to 11 00 to noon, thats when the heaviest rains will arrive philadelphia and new york. It will be heavy enough rains and gusty winds that we will get airport delays. Through the afternoon it moves up through new england from new york to boston. The other stories, the arctic cold. One more shot of really cold air comes down today the great lakes. This weekend into the northeast and its going to be cold enough to even stick in snow in some areas. Heres the snowfall forecast. This is mostly for saturday. One to three inches possible from cleveland to new york city. The roads will melt but you may get snow on your grass, the trees and car tops. Just an ugly weekend in the northeast. New york city, a little warmer today but that rain is on the way. Grab the umbrella. More morning joe when we come back. Why do some cash back cards keep throwing obstacles at you . First they limit where you earn bonus cash back. Then those places change every few months . I think ill pass. Quicksilver from capital one puts nothing in your way. You simply en unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. You cant dodge the question. Whats in your wallet . Show show me more like this. S. Show me previously watched. Whats recommended for me. X1 makes it easy to find what blows you away. Call or go online and switch to x1. Only with xfinity. Do you remember during the debate he started lecturing me
on new york values like were no good . Like were no good. [ boos ] and i started talking to him about the world trade center, the bravery, the incredible bravery of everybody, our police, our firemen, our everybody. [ cheers and applause ] the worst attack in the history of the United States, the bravery that was shown was incredible, we all lived through it, we all know people that died and ive got this guy standing over there looking at me talking about new york values with scorn on his face, with hatred, with hatred of new york. So, folks, i think you can forget about him. [ crowd chanting lying today ] i came up with the idea. You ha