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MSNBCW Morning Joe June 15, 2015

Im magnificent, mika. How are you . Im fine. Youre back for more . Im back for more. We had a big weekend with Hillary Clinton and jeb bush getting ready to go. I think the engines are starting. Lets start with breaking news. We begin in upstate new york where they cannot find these guys. Day ten of the manhunt for those two fugitives still on the run. State police say that 800 Law Enforcement officers have been involved in the search to this point and more than 7 hundred tips have come in still no sign of these convicted murderers, david sweat and richard matt. Police are focusing attention on the area southeast of the maximum security prison in dannemora, new york, and expanded their search farther east on sunday. Comes after a lot of information has come out, though, since friday. Prison employee Joyce Mitchell was charged with promoting prison contraband on friday a felony that carries a maximum sentence of eight years in prison. Shes said to appear in court again this morning for her preliminary hearing. Meanwhile, Governor Andrew Cuomo will announce a formal investigation by the state Inspector General into all factors involved the daring escape later to day. Here is Miguel Almaguer with the latest. Reporter Joyce Mitchell did much more than just sneak various tools into this maximum security facility. She worked for weeks, say investigators, with david sweat and richard matt on their escape. What kind of relationship you would describe it as between them . Unusual. Reporter District Attorney andrew wiley says mitchell became involved with the convicted killers in 2013. Slowly learning of their planned prison break agreeing to become their get away driver and planning a midnight rendezvous with this power plant. After the duo dug their way to freedom. So was they are thought process to help them escape and then essentially go on the run and move on with them . It appears that way. You know it appears that way based on her statements and i think at the last moment that friday afternoon or friday evening she bailed out. Reporter the da says mitchell was to drive seven hours towards an unknown possibly wooded location where they would need an off road vehicle. The day of the escape, mitch hl a mitchell had a panic attack a no show at the power plant because she didnt want to hurt her husband. The air operation is launched around the clock. At night theyre using infrared during the day, several spotters on the choppers. An army of 800 searching for two who could be long gone. Zbh we dont we dont know if theyre still in the immediate area or if they are in mexico by now. Reporter how thick are the wootdz back woods back here . Very thick. Reporter bob landry owns two acres east of the prison. A checkpoint is outside his front door. There is little comfort in being home. How do you sleep at night . Very very lightly. Its tough. My wife and i take shifts. Reporter the search for two killers while the woman who allegedly helped them is sitting behind bars. Oh, my gosh. There are so many different dynamics to this story coming out that are tragic. And unbelievable as well. And ten days in you begin to wonder as the governor said where they could be. They thought if the get away car wasnt there they would have to be in the immediate area. They combed it for ten days. Alleged plan by this woman Joyce Mitchell according to Law Enforcement sources, after she broke the two guys out, they were going to go to her house and kill her husband. Yep. They didnt say she agreed to be a part of it but she said she was going to take them to her house and kill her husband. Incredible story. Well weve got lots of politics to cover this morning. Were going to start with the big rally over the weekend for Hillary Clinton. In the first rally of her president ial campaign Hillary Clinton unveiled her stump speech. The former first lady senator and secretary of state spoke about her mothers influence and outlined a populous domestic agenda. My mother taught me that Everybody Needs a chance and a champion. She knew what it was like not to have either one. Her own parents abandoned her and by 14 she was out on her own working as a house maid. You know by now that ive been called many things by many people. Quitter is not one of them. [ applause ] like so much else in my life i got this from my mother. While many of you are working multiple jobs to make ends meet you see the top 25 Hedge Fund Managers making more than all of americas kindergarten teachers combined and often paying a lower tax rate. You have to wonder when does my hard work pay off . When does my family get ahead . When i say now. Willie geist, some great reaction from hillary. People loved it. Yeah. Her supporters really liked it. I thought the interesting thing to me was that she is fully joined this fight against inequality and the fight against wage stagnation. Shes not the centrist democrat a lot of people thought she was or certainly she was in 2008. She is joining the Elizabeth Warren battle against this theme in the Democratic Party right now. She hit it really hard saturday for over an hour. John how did she do . You know she is you know we all know we in the media scoff at her rivals and talk about Martin Omalley and Bernie Sanders and say she is the automatic nominee. Shes not taking anything for granted. Shes not going let anybody goat her left. Shes not running as her husband. Shes not trying to persuade the center. At least not right now. Shes running to make sure the left flank is not exposed. And thats going to make a lot of Democratic Base voters happy. Willie to your point, sometimes she doesnt sound like herself in the past. And i sort of want to xenldextend of conversation we had. This is not lip curling. Are we going back to friday . No i want to look at the speech and then ask you a question. Because it sort of the reason that ive been looking at that kind of rhetoric from Hillary Clinton and saying it sounds like Elizabeth Warren but sometimes doesnt feel like it rings true. Right. And why some progressives may worry about her following through whether it comes to actually governing. So first off during the 2008 election cycle according to open secrets, some of Hillary Clintons top donors were big banks. Among them Goldman Sachs, citigroup citigroup, lee man brothers and merryll lynch. And then Elizabeth Warren managed to sullyactually sway Hillary Clinton on a bankruptcy bilk pushed by predators that warren was very worried adversely affected single mothers. So warren published an opinion piece that led to oneonone meeting between her and mrs. Clinton in boston. And here is Elizabeth Warren talking about it in an interview with bill moyer in 2004. Mrs. Clinton sits down. We have hamburgers and french fries. You tutor her . And she tells me tell me about bankruptcy. I never had a smarter student. Quick, right to the heart of it. I go over the law. Its a complex law. Went over the economics. Showed her the graph. Showed her the charts and she got it. She said professor warren weve got to stop that awful bill referring to this bankruptcy bill, that is sponsored by the Credit Card Companies. The last bill that came before president clinton was that bankruptcy bill that was passed by the house and the senate in 2000. And he vetoed it. And in her autobiography, mrs. Clinton took credit for that veto and she rightly should. She turned around a whole administration on the subject of bankruptcy. She got it. Then that was in 2004. Interestingly enough now is working in technicolor. It looked like 1968. She looked great. Fast forward to when Hillary Clinton became senator. Thats when she was first lady. Fast forward to when she became senator. That same bill was once again up for a vote. Take a look. Her husband had vetoed it very much at her urging. And . She voted in favor of it. Why . As senator clinton, the pressures are very different. Its a wellfinanced industry. The Credit Card Companies have been giving money. And they have influence. And mrs. Clinton is one of them as senator. She has taken money from the groups and more to the point, she worries about them as a constituency. So let me ask you, mika. This isnt funny, is it . How does that make you feel . No. Thats not im just asking how it makes you feel . It makes me have a question for you about how she actually proves that she can stand up to wall street or stand up to influence that i think is a big issue with the clintons and whether influence plays a role in decision making. And this is real you know credible, actual legislation. Right. And part of the work shes done in her past that we can apply to now some of the things she is saying in her speeches how does she get beyond that and prove she can really do what shes saying . I dont i dont think the Democratic Party has moved sharply left over the past several years. And flz beentheres been one study after that that have said that. Some say thats not the case. But were far to the left of where bill clinton was as president. I dont know politically after eight years of democrats being in the white house that moving further left is the smartest general election approach. Maybe she needs to do it. But i guess what im saying is i wouldnt follow Elizabeth Warren down one of her rabbit trails. I dont think had a is the smart play for her. And the fall when shes going up against jeb bush and marco rubio and n. In colorado or new mexico or anywhere across the country where, you know you you have swing votes in swing states. I think people in massachusetts, new york california do you understand this might represent a concern about how she stands up to wall street . Im not really sure what youre saying . Yeah shes not going to stand up to wall street. What is she saying there on her rally . What are we supposed to believe . Just know shes not going to stand up to wall street. Nobody that gets to the white house stands up to wall street. Barack obama was going to stand up to waltl street. Wall street is so complex. But tend of the day, nobody ever stendz up to wall street. Stands up to wall street. And Hillary Clinton whose friends are all millionaires is not going to stand up to wall street. But neither is jeb. I donten into to sound defeatist. Youre very cynical this morning. Shes not going to stand up. Hillary is not going to stand up to wall street and neither is jeb, neither is marco, neither is anybody running. Well its the case that mika if, you were further if you were part of the more progressive wing of the Democratic Party, you have every reason to be skeptical that hillary clin is a true convert to your cause. For the reason you said. This bankruptcy bill has been a complaint for a long time. That is not something people talked about for years in an upset way. She has taken a lot away from wall street. As joe points out, you know, the other person you can make that same list of big bank contributors is barack obama who took money from the wall street banks. I think more money from wall street than any kanld datecandidate ever. An interesting debate could be had about what the effect of doddfrank will be. Did he break up the biggest banks . He did not. Did he pass a bill they like . He did. It is possible she gets in a place she doesnt do as far as the Democratic Party wants but she does something that moves the ball forward as i think president obama support woerz say doddfrank is . Its possible. If Elizabeth Warren wanted the issues to be youre not going to break up the big banks. Thats not coming down the path. Im not sure thats where the middle of the country is. Not sure thats where the middle of the country s. If Elizabeth Warren wanted the issues pushed she should have ran. Bernie sanders will push it. Few others. To mikas larger point whether or not this can be uld off authentically by Hillary Clinton, its thoordhard to go in a big speech and attack hedge funds and pull out statistics about the top 25 hedge funneled managers make more money than all the kindergarten teachers combined this economy cant just be for billionaires and then go to a hedge funneled managers house and then pull off speeches at Goldman Sachs. Elizabeth warren wouldnt pull off a speech at Goldman Sachs because she means what she is saying. A lot of other interesting stuff in that speech. She talked about republicans being the party of yesterday which i think is an interesting sort of contortion. A lot of people saying well were going back to the clinton years, shes painting republicans as being sort of old and white and not the party of tomorrow. So there was a lot in there. And people who thought shes been short on policy the last several weeks and months found a lot in there that there was to like about policy if youre a democrat. A stake in the ground. Very little on foreign poll sichlt policy. Well get to. That. Mitt romney joins us and plus president kandz date Carly Fiorina reacts to hillarys rally of her 2016 campaign. And harold ford jr. And al hunt join the conversation. First, bill karins with a check on the forecast. Sfwhil. After a nice weekend in many spots, we have trouble down in the gulf of mexico. Likely a Tropical Storm developing. It wont become a hurricane. It will be a weak Tropical Storm. But tropical systems if, they move slowly enough and over areas already are wet and have saturated soil, we can get major flooding problems. Thats what i expect to happen in the days ahead. So sitting out there spinning. Hurricane hunters will investigate it later to day. Computers are taking it inland over the texas coast as a Tropical Storm somewhere in between Corpus Christi and houston. I do not expect any wind problems. I dont expect any storm surge problems. This is mostly just a rain forecast and rain and flooding forecast for the week ahead. Estimates have it as much as five to eight inches of rain. Remember texas and oklahoma how much rain they had in may. They had two weeks of dry weather the beginning of june. Now the rivers are still up pretty high. Now were going to get another four to eight inches of rain. We have problems that are going to head up into oklahoma moshgs month, illinois because of that High Pressure in the southeast. This storm is going to go up and then bend to the right and over the next five days our rainfall forecast, even puts as much as four to five inches of rain up around st. Louis. So missouri and illinois mshgs areas of the midwest and ohio valley you also are at risk of some really significant flooding in the week ahead. So care i didnt think um carry the umbrellas. Youre watching morning joe with a rainy new york city as our backdrop. Well be right back. music boys . music stop less. Go more. The passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. Hurry in and you can get 0 apr plus a 1000 volkswagen credit bonus on 2015 passat tdi clean diesel models. You are looking at two airplane fuel gauges. Can you spot the difference . No . You cant see that . Alright, lets take a look. The one on the right just used 1 less fuel than the one on the left. Now, to an airline a 1 difference could save enough fuel to power hundreds of flights around the world. Hey, look at that. Pyramids. 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The country has moved left on a number of these issues like immigration and like same sex marriage criminal justice. So i thought it was, you know a b plus a minus start. Harold ford . I thought the speech was probably an a minus. Id give her a b in terms of delivery. I agree with als take on it. All thats been said this morning, no one is going to beat her to the left. She has the credentials because her name is clinton to come back to the middle during the general which i think she does as well. You know the question becomes the omalleys and the sanders and others are they going to be able to find room to beat her up on the left. On a speech like this particularly if she runs that campaign. In a few hours, jeb bush the other giant out there is expected to announce what many in washington have assumed for months that hes running for president. Later today, the son of the nations 41st president and brother of the 43rd will launch his campaign to become the countrys 45th president. 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