Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20141114 11:00:00 : compa

Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning Joe 20141114 11:00:00

Morning joe. Clintons will be in little rock to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their library. Theres a free concert. Later well hear from the two window wash who are had to be rescued from the 67th floor of 1 World Trade Center on wednesday. They are expected to hold a news conference. That will do it for our friday edition of way too early. Morning joe starts right now. Good morning, everybody. Its friday. This is the jam. November 14th. Welcome to morning joe. What a difference a day off makes. What a great day. I need to do that more often. With us on set i never have. Its time was it a spa day. A day with my daughter day. No other reason. Yep. I spent years not doing that. What was that like it was amazing. We had the best time. Im going to try that. We watched videos in bed. Just youtube videos. Like funny things. Stupid stuff. Did you see the person impersonating matthew mcconaughey. No but well do that the next time. All right, all right. We watched the apparent kid on ellen. Whatever. Senior Political Editor sam stein is here. Donny is here. In washington we got Jeremy Peters here. How is that you were right. What . Oh, i know. Dude is on his cell phone. Mark my words. Dude on his cell phone. He was texting, i bet before the phone call. So hes on the cell phone the secret service guy while the other dude is breaking towards the white house and hes on his cell phone. He left his back up radio inside. He turned off the radio he was supposed to have on because hes on his cell phone and doesnt want its unbelievable. Talk about the scathing report, mika. Its just been released. Thats the bottom line. This is on the White House Security breach that happened in september. The department of Homeland Security faults secret Service Agents for nearly a dozen performance organizational and technical failures. Those errors allowed Omar Gonzalez to jump the white house fence with a knife, run across the north lawn and enter the first familys home. He then overpowered a female secret Service Officer and ran across the 80foot east room before he was apprehended. The report states the secret Service Alarm system and radios did not work properly and many officers on duty didnt see gonzalez as he climbed the fence. A uniformed secret Service Officer with an attack dog was allegedly talking on a cell phone instead of listening to a two way radio. His stand by radio was in his locker. What else i understand they had agents that drew guns on this guy and they go well we dont think hes armed. So they drew their guns. He ran past them. I think it was even an agent in the white house, inside the white house where he came in, drew his gun and said he doesnt look armed. Donny, oh, my god. First of all the guy had a knife on him. That equals armed. If there had bean civilian or somebody Walking Around the white house he could have grabbed them. List jenks im sorry, i dont care who it is. If they are racing there the presumption has to be they are armed. Not that they are not armed. Either way shoot them. Youre running into my house, if i have a gun im going take you down. Its almost beyond comprehension. They can teach them how to shoot in the leg if you dont want to kill them but shoot them. We talked about this. Lets call it a snafu to be nice. One more example. Like a dozen snafus. Whether its the irs, you know, whether its the universities administration, the secret service when does it get right . And its stunning. Its really stunning. I think the story here really is about tablets and cell phones and as we move forward, security jobs and other jobs that demand complete focus and attention the question is are they going to be allowed to have theres also the question of why you dont shoot somebody once they are inside the white house because youre presuming they are not armed. I read somewhere i forget why there was an article i read but it said its really a lot more complicated to shoot somebody in the leg than you think it is. At the same time dont they have taser guns or something they can do to impede a man with a knife thats entering the white house front door or lock the door or dont go into the car with your cell phone with your k9. We call president obama the president but at the end of the day hes a dad. Can you imagine what must have went down that day with his kids. Can you imagine . The guy ran right past the staircase to go upstairs where the kids are. Thats not even the first thing. Theres a shooter that shot at the white house from way down the street that they covered up essentially for a while. The first family must be just absolutely aghast. Lets get to the big story on capitol hill. Oh, boy, fireworks. I think so. Are we going to see more of the same or is there going some sort of diversion from the norm. President obama said this morning hell move to overhaul parts of the immigration system by the end of the year and its already raising the prospect of a Government Shutdown within some circles of the gop. The New York Times reports the white house plan would prevent the deportation of as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. It would reform the role of law enforcement, add more security to the border and allow the parents of children born in the u. S. To get work documents. The plan would also boost opportunities for more legal immigrants with expertise in technology. Yesterday House Democrats called on the president to take Decisive Action fein it came without full congressional backing. Some republicans are threatening a shutdown. Lets not do that, guys. You got a w. Big w. Check the win box. Lets see. Lets listen to what they say about this because perhaps their tone shows they know theyve won and time for a new approach. Your setting somebody up here . No. Im hoping what were about to see is a real change. So they say unless theres language restricting the president s proposal. Will not be shutting the government down, threatening default on the National Debt. Even if he goes forward on immigration. Will not be shutting the government down or threatening to default on the National Debt. Were going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. This is the wrong way to govern. All the options are on the table. Were having discussions with our members and no decision has been made as to how we will fight this. I think Mitch Mcconnell said it pretty straight. No Government Shutdown right, Jeremy Peters. He did although it may not be entirely his choice. John boehner once again is having to wrestle with the tea Party Faction in his caucus and i think whats going, whats likely to happen here is the president will wait until after congress deals with the budget to do anything, so congress, therefore, cant shut down the government in response to what the president has done on illegal immigration but i do think theres a serious, serious amount of caution inside the Republican Party right now, especially among the new Senate Majority or the incoming Senate Majority that shutting down the government would completely squander all of the gains that they just made, all the goodwill that they have among the public right now. Explain that. Why do you think that is . I think the first thing they want to do or the first thing they do when they come back, after they are elected the Majority Party in congress for the First Time Since 2006 they come in and shut down the government. I think that would look horrible. Republicans would get blamed for that. They did the last time. They certainly did. I will say its a little bit different this time because when the president acts unilaterally on just about anything that has less public support and weve seen that in the past, this whole notion of executive action on immigration to allow these people to stay here without going through congress, that has proven unpopular. Not just in states like arkansas, but in states like colorado and iowa. I do think thats a concern for democrats. Were showing this was the republicans blame for the Government Shutdown last time in october of 13. Weve heard a couple of republicans talk about this. But the overwhelming majority just are not going to go there. The senate is obviously different than house to. Look what Mitch Mcconnell has to deal with in the senate. He has people up for reelection in very blue states. He has to grapple with that calculus. Thats not the calculus that john boehner has to grapple with. But, again, even though the dynamics are different, its not a shutdown fight would go straight to the president s desk. Even those dynamics are in, i cant imagine not going to do it. Would be coming in. Just not going to do it. Much more likely put this into the law so they are going after the president for his executive actions on health care. Take the win. Dont talk about a shutdown. Dont talk about impeachment. Dont talk about default. You know, youre now moving towards 2016. Have a chance to win the white house and keep it away from the clintons for eight more years. Dont talk about those things. All republicans have to do is stay center right and not show. The interesting thing about this immigration thing is two fold. Number one, i felt very strongly a republican win would energize obama. We saw with it net neutral thing. Hes starting to double down. Hes backed into a corner and coming out fighting. The immigration thing could set up the republicans to fraction themselves. You have the hispanics. The republicans started to make inroads in the last election. This will force republican candidates how harsh do they come out against the president and now spotlight is back on the fraction republicans. I have a prediction. I think they let it pass. Write it down. They let it pass. They are skraemg and yelling from the right. And it just becomes the law because they dont want to pass their own immigration bill. This becomes the law of the land. The people that are running in the blue states like you said the republicans running in the blue states say yeah i didnt oppose it. I didnt like the way he did it but there are some good reforms there. The rightwingers can scream and yell and say he should be impeached. People running for president the governors running for president they can all go yeah these were things that needed to happen. It sort of eases it along like the gay marriage debate, the courts are taking the gay marriage debate out of the hands of the republicans. It makes it convenient. There are a lot of republicans that to run in 2016 that will say let that pass. I totally agree with you. Thats the smart strategic move because its much easier to say were against executive action and put aside the policy. Were against president ial executive action on that scale while not dealing with the specifics of the policy. That way you dont enrage the hispanic population but you can talk about obamas overreach. Simple play for mcconnell and anybody running in 2016. People in the rightwing districts can talk about impeachment. Then the Keystone Pipeline which is set for a vote in the house today and the senate is nearing the 60 votes needed to pass it early next week. Tissue was fast tracked in large part due to Louisiana Senate runoff between Mary Landrieu and bill cassidy both trying to show they can provide for the state. Supporters say it will create thousands of american jobs but some analysts suggest the falling price of crude means its market value may be less than it costs to transport and produce here in the u. S. The president who retains his veto power weighed in on the issue this morning while on his trip to asia. As a policy matter, my government believes that we should judge this pipeline based on whether or not it accelerates Climate Change or whether it helps the American People with their energy costs and their gas prices. And i have to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the Keystone Pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the United States, or is somehow war on gas prices. Understand what this project is. It is providing the ability of canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the gulf where it will be sold every where else. It doesnt have an impact on u. S. Gas prices. Major environmental questions as well. Do you think he should veto it. I think if he vetoes it he proves hes capped big money on the left. No other way to put it. You look at his own state department. They say this is more environmentally sensitive having a pipeline than continuing to allow trucks and tankers to move this oil around. They say its going to create 45,000, 50,000 new jobs. Is this going to cause this great renaissance of like american, you know, American Workforce . No. A massive bargaining chip is that what youre saying . No. What im saying is that theres no logical reason whatsoever for the president to veto this other than hard core ideo logs on the left who spend billions of dollars on democratic campaigns. This is, donny and sam, a growing problem, i think for democrats. You know, as a republican ive seen for some time oh, gee this issue is breaking against republicans. We talked about gay marriage before. This is an issue that will break against republicans with the younger generation. This growing Energy Revolution where were going to be the number one producer of oil by 2020 will cost manufacturing and everything go down, democrats are actually on the wrong side of that issue of a historical trend and somebody has to help them, in my opinion. I tend to see the politics here which is that theres enough support for this thing to probably pass and the question comes what did the president get as a leverage point for it. In a logical political world couldnt you see a trade off well pass keystone, well do these environmental regulations on our coal plants. We have a net neutral carbon deal in place. We dont live in a logical political view. If im the president i would veto this. You give me minimum wage wage increase. Company have leveraged that for something. Were at a point where we may end up with a veto proof majority in the senate. The president still has the power to say ill veto this bill, ill send it back to you, attach 9. 15 minimum wage increase to it and sign it. Youll see a lot of those republicans in the senate that are in those blue States Running in 2016 saying ill be a part of that. Well see what the house does. Two other political dynamics in play. Joining us now from washington chief White House Correspondent for politico mike allen. Mike, lets start with Elizabeth Warren. What are the expectations for her new role and then Chris Christie and wall street. Whats going on. Go. Mika, first things first. Happy friday. Happy friday micky. Playbook is play on birthdays cond iis 60 and Valerie Jarrett is 60 today. Its valeries birthday. Happy birthday valerie. I knew that valerie had a birthday. Start with Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth warren is coming to the democrats rescue. These democrats are so reluctant, dragging their feet in voting for harry reid as their leader so theres so much excitement about her. Shes been added to leadership. She has the made up title of Senior Policy Adviser to the senate democrats. But she came out talking about working families, bashing wall street. You saw where that was going. Also yesterday at the Mandarin Oriental here in d. C. You saw her talking to big democratic donors saying run, liz, run. A lot of excitement about her, pushing her for president among some of the biggest check books in the democratic party. Whats going on between Chris Christie and wall street . They are worried about what this story calls as unusual frankness. The big question is that a liability for him or an asset. Chris christie is feeling great coming off these big republican governor wins. He feels bridgegate is behind him. Republican donors are ppragma ists. What do you think . I think hes got a temp temperament problem. Wall street sees that. We never elected an angry person. Zero chance this guy will get elected. Hes not a thug. You know, we went after the teacher. Fantastic. Youre asking about my kids and where they go to school. Went to a town hall meeting and starting screaming at that guy in the crowd. Thats like wall street people didnt say good for him. He can send his kids to a damn Catholic School if he wants to. You start yelling at people in press conferences. Where was the line. You knew he would cross it at some point. So it just seemed off kilter. Scott walker theres a reason hes scott walker. Scott walker won. Hes won in wisconsin now three times in four years. His star is now eclipsed, Chris Christies with most conservatives i talked to and money people. And even in the wall street journal today, they were talking this is scott walkers moment. You end up getting to know the people you cover. You become friends with some of them. Ive talked about this. The romneys, the clintons, the obamas, we criticize them a lot. Were also very friendly with them. And they come back sometimes after the most, the biggest oh, my gosh. Let me pu

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