Hillary clinton and Melinda Gates will lead one of the final sessions on equality for girls and women. And police in virginia, on the hunt for the man they have charged in the. The big worry was that we had to go into this fight alone. But you know what . Thats what friend are for. We told four arab nations are also flying in the missions over syria, saudi arabia, jordan, bahrain and the united arab emirates. A fifth is helping, but not by
air. What are they, catering . What is that . How is that holding under the circumstances, are they giving isis the silent treatment and then when isis is all like, qatar, whats wrong . Are you mad at me . No, its cool. How funny. Good morning, everybody, its wednesday, september 24th. A lot going on today. We have the president on Foreign Relations with us. Good morning. Really, can you believe this . Hes up this morning, too. Hes angry. A new memoir, fire slot up in my bone, it is incredible. I read an except over the week, its great to have you on. Could we read this Washington Post article about what happened to the white house . Yeah, is that the white house jumper . Unbelievable. Okay. So an intruder sprints to the white house on friday. The secret Service Officer ran away, but he barrelled past him. A few yards further on, the intruder reached the white house store. They talked about how there were like seven steps that the secret Service People were supposed to stop at and every single step of the way they failed. Its unbelievable. On the outside of the fence, there was somebody who is supposed to spot a jumper. They failed. Once they get to the inside of the fence the guy at the get a is supposed to go out. He failed. Then as he moves closer to the white house, they are supposed to relieve the dogs, they failed to do that. Then the swat steam was supposed to slow him down. They failed to do that. It keeps getting worse. It keeps getting worse him then finally, the 7th ring of protection is somebody who is standing at the front door of the white house, to keep him out. But that person wasnt there. So that was the seventh ring of the protection. And so now what theyre going to do is make tourists across america wait even longer because theyre too stupid. Seven people, this is seven people who didnt screw up. They said a word i cant say on tv and as a security expert said, once the guy gets inside the white house, he could have had anything on him. He, in effect, controlled the white house. He could have had a bomb on him, a massive device on him. They had seven wings of protection that all failed miserably and if the secret, the person who is in charge of running the White House Secret Service is not fired for this, i dont really know what you have to do to fire in washington, d. C. I think he is answering a lot of questions, too. They got a new fence. Well, its an amazing job. Well, exactly. Oh, man. That was our whole story. We can start there. We are lucky on two fronts. Number one, this guy wasnt armed. Number two the president is there. The president holds, the guy gets inside with god knows what. Just right up the stairs. Not good. Not good. Unbelievable. All right. It is. But lets begin here in new york, where in just a few hours, president obama will try to rally more International Support for his plans to defeat Islamic State militants in an address to the United NationsGeneral Assembly. Overnight the u. S. Continued to pound isis targets in syria for the second day in a row as well as in iraq. They are continued targets of opportunity. The pentagon says more than 160 bombs and missiles have already been launched inside syria. Officials say the strike was very successful but are warning they could last for years. I dont know what that means. For years. There are some of the we are looking at some of the first pictures from the ground in syria after the airstrike. Residents say this town was hit with rockets on the first day of raids. While the u. S. Stressed that was u. S. Coalition, the joint chiefs of staff says the u. S. Has carried out most of the strikes. The Obama Administration says the airstrikes are illegal under the iraq war authorization of 2002. Two months ago, National Security adviser sui isnt rice will be on the show to ask House Speaker john boehner to rescind the resolution, calling it outdated. Whats going on here . Do we know what were firing at . Come on. Let me ask this a different way. We really dont know what we are firing at over there. This is one of those situations
where my mother would come up and say dont confuse motion for action. This is motion more than action, 16 it, richard . It is. We do not know exactly what we will find after such real time intelligence. We dont have people on the ground. So in some case, we may get the targets we wanted. In some case, it may b not be the people there we wanted. Its trying to conduct an antiterrorist campaign with one arm tied behind your back. Are you doing it from the air, not with a partner, which is the achilles heel of the United States. Charles, havent we done this before . Again, im not saying we sit back and do absolutely nothing. It seems like we are firing randomly. Well, i mean at targets. I have for the idea what we are hitting. Nobody is on the ground. Thats the question and its an expensive question. And whether or not we trust the
military mission not to create. Im always leery of war. I think it cannot be contained. That it is always hungry once you let it loose, you dont know what you get on the other side. We have the dean of Tufts University and supreme allied commander at that to. The author of the book the accidental admiral. Id like to capitalize about airstrikes only at this point with no ground partner. They are being call very successful, but what if the limitations to airstrikes only . I think richard categorizes it correctly. Without the spotters on the ground, without that real time laser dot to put it precisely where you want. You are handicapped. Can you do a fair am using strategic intelligence over head
sensor, that type of thing. There are some indications some of the leadership of this khorasaf group may have been hit. Over time, if we will be very effective in this air campaign, we will have to put some people on the ground. And, of course, thats the big question, who do we put on the ground . We dont have arab states to put troops up there. The United States isnt going to be putting people oak right now. Again, it seems like the pentagons not even doesnt seem to be competent. David ignacious writes this morning in the Washington Post its a wakeup call how long it will be in terms of training people. We havent begun training them yet. Theyre setting up these caverns in saudi arabia, where we will train people to go back into syria. Those have been up and running for Something Like six months. You have to train them and they go in. We are talking years here. Its a clean airstrike mission. This will go on into the long presidency. This is a long deal. So what do we do strategically . I think first and foremost is to get Coalition Partners to the degree weve had some success in afghanistan, its probably because of bringing 50 nations together there. We had a reasonable tactical success in libya by bringing together a coalition that included some arab partners. I think if we can capitalize on the arabs apparent willing inside to at least participate. Maybe bring some of their folks on the ground to be in that environment might make some zblens you have arab states, as the New York Times reported this morning, dont like each other. Exactly. Thats the question of how long that can last. Whats a great example of how its worked before. Thank you. Richard, talk a little bit about the challenges of getting the coalition together especially arabs. One is what they want to contribute, themselves. We talked about the lack of enthusiasm shall we say for putting quote unquote their boots on the ground. Secondly, you have the political differences, they have been os stra sides for being too close to Muslim Brotherhood in egypt, to hamas. Why is it that other arab states have basically turned tear back on qatar because they have funded radical islamists across the middle east. But we have the secretary of state here and hes, john kerry is repeating americas position that, is sort of down the middle. We dont seem leak we want to go out and condemn qatar for we had the emir of the council Foreign Relations of qatar there. There is something, a movement x the fact that theyve joined the coalition however limited says something, the fact that they kick out the muslim representatives theyve had living there, that says something. Are they starting to feel the
heat . They are starting to feel the heat. I think they are worried. All these traditional straights to be worried at one point isis will not be content in syria and iraq. At one point isis will train its gun literally on the centers of the sunniarab world that means saudi arabia and everybody else. We are learning more details about the saudi group started in the airstrikes. Intelligence shows the group known as the khorason was in the final stages of planning to attack the u. S. Or western target. Richard engel will join us live in just a moment. But there is his report from neighboring turkey. Reporter its a crowded battlefield in syria with dozen, perhaps hundreds, of extremist groups drawing members from across the world. They fight against the assad regime and against each other. The Khorasan Group is one of
them. Its a Splinter Group of al qaeda which moved to syria to locate and move westerners among the thousands of foreign fighters in the country. Its considered a threat to the u. S. Because the u. S. Intelligence officials, say it will bring down explosives. The groups leader is this man. Mussin alfadhli. He ran al qaeda cells in raurn, reportedly not in afghanistan and chechnya and a top aide to Osama Bin Laden said to be one of the few people to know about 911 before the attacks. Now he and his organization is under attack. So is isis. There are mr. More in syria just like them. Charles, the september 11th columnist talking about the cost of war. Appropriately on sempbts, we find ourselves 13 years later. Yeah. And you talked about how americans are just reluctant can
have people in washington, d. C. The council of foreign relation, the United Nations, all over the world, telling working class americans we got to go back to war and i understand. But the costs have been so extraordinary. A lot of americans are saying, no mas. No mas. I think there are moments when we are kind of patriot oughtic and rightly so. Beheading videos cause a lot of anxiety and anger among americans. I understand that, so you saw real spikes in approval of going after isis. But weve seen this before. We played this movie before. If you look back at polling right before we went into iraq, people were very gung ho as well and that falls off very, very quickly. We dont have the stomach for long engagements. We think things should be quick and easy. That is no. We play on a different time table. We play on a quick and easy time
table. They play on a decade glacial time table. Im looking and charles makes great point, im looking forward to the next wave of polls. We have the first waves of polls after the beheadings. Im looking after the airstrikes. I dont think will you find 65, 70 of people supporting this and 40 of americans saying they support Ground Troops over there i just dont think you will find that. Thats a real challenge. Thats why the president while he has been going much more slowly than a lot of 350e78 would like him to go on capitol hill. Hes actually closer to the American People than they are. We have richard in place. Richard engel joins us live from just north of the Syrian Border in turkey and khorason at this point as many have reported, its far more dangerous in some way, how much of a piece of it was taken out, richard . Reporter well, its unclear and im actually not entirely sure that khorason is any more
dangerous than a lot of these militant groups that are operating inside syria. According to u. S. Intelligence, the khorason group, which is not a well known group has about 100 core members. It is linked wage to al qaeda. It has linkages with other al qaeda militants in the middle east and it was in the late stages of plotting an attack to bomb u. S. Airliners. That is a very specific threat. That is the threat that the u. S. Intelligence is pointing to, saying that was more immediate need to carry out these airstrikes. But when you look alt syria. You look at all of the different pilltant groups on the ground. Have you isra the military front which is also an al qaeda offshoot. There are many groups in syria that could pose a threat to the United States not just khorason. I think explain tlag to theAmerican People. Once you start bombing in syria and you start looking for targets, will you see a lot of targets and there is going to be not just a Short Campaign but a years campaign. Well see if the American People really recognize what theyre getting into. Hey, richard, its willie some those are some of the more radical groups inside the syria. Lets talk about the more moderate ones we hope to work with and partner with to provide Ground Troops to go if following the airstrikes. What do we know say about the Free Syrian Army s. That a viable people willing to fight on behalf of the United States, on behalf of the United Nations and partner with the United States, are they willing, number one, second, are they capable of pulling this off . Reporter i think the answer is are they willing . In theory, theyre willing. When you talk to some of their leaders. The leaders who are in new york, some with their hands out right now looking for money, looking
for support. They say they are willing. They seem to be convincing washington they are willing. On the ground they are very weak right now. Tray nowhere in a position to take ground. That is the basic structural flaw of this strategy. The u. S. Is backing both side. The airstrikes in syria are helping assad, but the u. S. Is also promising to support rebels who are against assad. So this strategy sets up syria in an almost permanent state of civil war and that is the civil war that has caused all of the extremists to allow themselves to find a safe haven. Richard, thank you. And still ahead here on morning joe, National Security adviser susan rice will join us in our 7 00 hour. Retired general Michael Hayden is here at 8 00 live. Plus there is a common treatment that could avoid the current eboll loo pan demic. We will explain the troubling reason why it wasnt ready on
time. Also, a Texas School Board candidate has an innovative way to secure his election but did it work . We will tell you about his plans. Next. You are watching morning joe. When fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts thats when expertise happens. Mfs. Because there is no expertise without collaboration. Can you start tomorrow . Yes sir. Alright. Lets share the news tomorrow. Today we failrly busy. Tomorrow were booked solid. We close on the house tomorrow. I want one of these opened up. Because tomorow we go live. Its a day full of promise. And often, that day arrives by train. Big day today . Even bigger one tomorrow. When csx trains move forward, so does the rest of the economy. Csx. How tomorrow moves. One past the hour. So Richard Haase i dont think ive seen him so angry. Hes so mad at hamid. If its Farewell Speech, richard is very worked up this morning. The Farewell Speech, he thanks, iran, india, china, he said america never wanted peace. He said future leaders beware of america. Well get to that. Shall we . Well play some of that. Okay. Lets get a look at the morning
papers, now . The epoch times. One of my favorite newspapers. Prosecutors say a 47yearold man used cocaine to buy votes in texas. Mica, why is it im always right behind the curve . I know. All right. Frankie garcia is accused it would have made 94 so much easier. Are you thinking of a little b . Ecstacy. That would have been stupid. Accused of selling dime bags to voters in the florida educational elections and in texas in 2012. Others were paid cash for votes. Garcia is facing voter fraud and other charges. Why, why, why, you can be arrested for buying votes . He was selling them, though. Shouldnt you just give them out . Maybe at a discount. Oh, thats right. Maybe at a discount. I think. I see. Go ahead. We can do better in denver. The denver post, hundreds of colorado students faced a walkout yesterday to pro taste new curriculum. It looks to focus education on history only on topics that build positive images of history. It aims to promote citizenship and respect for authority while downplaying acts of civil disobedience, students from six high schools say it was by social media and follows a sickin by teachers. I dont think they wanted to go to school. See heres another thing, i would just sneak off campus when i went to Catholic High School and eat roast beef. I should have like staged protests. Okay. Four of americas largest
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