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All right, thats going to do it for this edition of way too early. Morning joe starts right now. Good morning look at that, willie. That is a beautiful view. Beautiful day. Its a Beautiful Day. Last couple , not so beautiful. Its thursday, august the 14th. Great to have you here with us. Along with you, we have got washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay and nick consori and then with bloomberg news, al hunt. Yesterday, willie, really bad storms out there. Did you see some of the pictures . Even out here on long island. Cars on the highways up to their roofs. Looked like a river. It was. Yeah, parts of the midatlantic and northeast cleaning up and drying out after heavy rains sparked flooding across several states. The hardest appeared to be long island. Islip 13. 27 inches in under 24 hours and more than a foot in less than a day. More than the region receives in an entire summer. The rainfall shattered previous records and a lot of cars abandoned and a lot of people had to get out and run. Bill karins, this was Serious Business yesterday. Epic rains, willie. We tell you record highs and lows. This was alltime records for new york state. We have weather records back in new york to the 1800s and we have never seen in new york States History this much rain in 24 hours in any single reporting station in the entire state. Youre thinking about all of the hurricanes that have occurred. All of the huge storms. The noreaster. This was the most rain ever officially. It did up to 13. 57 inches for islip, new york. The old record was set recently with hurricane irene when it went through in tannersville, new york at 17. 5 inches. It wasnt new york we saw the flooding. Last night at midnight in portland, maine, they were telling people stay off the roads and they were doing water rescues as cars were submerged, especially in the under passes, with 6. 5 inches of rain. This went back to detroit with record flooding with over 4 inches. A slow moving storm and a very unusual amount of moisture in the air. The precipitation rates were very high for this storm and very unusual because it wasnt a hurricane or a Tropical Storm and makes you scratch your head. It wasnt forecasted all that well. We knew it would rain and rain hard but no one was expecting this much rain in this short of a period of time. When it comes down that fast, that hard, you get the pictures like you see there. Today, we are much better across the region with that shot at the top of the show. Its a Beautiful Day out there, it feels like fall almost the next couple of days. If you want to scratch your head for extreme weather events this was one of them over the last couple of days. Wild couple of days. Bill, get the rest of your frac in a couple of minutes. The fourth straight night, the streets of suburb looked like a battlefield. Police in full riot gear and using tear gas to control crowds simmering over the death of 18yearold Michael Brown by a Police Officer there in ferguson, missouri. Two reporters in town to cover the store last night detained after Police Ordered them to leave a local mcdonalds. Wesley lowrie and ryan reilly claim they were handcuffed after police said they were not packing up their things to leave quickly enough. Lowery caught part of his episode with the cell phone. Stop videotaping. Please dont do this. Lets go. You see me working . Please do not tell me not to use my cell phone. Lets go. Down to about 45 seconds. Lets go. Reporter the street lets go. Not time to ask questions. Move your car if your car is out here. Reporter what i was asking. You didnt have time to ask me. Lets go. Reporter im working, sir. Lets go. Here is a door over here. Lets go. Lets go. You can move. Lets go. Move. Reporter sir, please lets move. Lets move. Last night, lowery who shot that avoid spoke about what allegedly happened when the camera stopped rolling. Tried to direct me toward another door. I said, officers where would you like moo to go . The bag slipped off of my shoulder. Officers, i need to adjust my bag and they said lets take him. Slammed me into a soda machine and grabbed my bags. Reilly said, in part, a s. W. A. T. Team just invaded mcdonalds. I was given a countdown. I was told i had, you know, 45 seconds, 30 seconds, to pack up all of my stuff and leave. At which point, the officer in question who i have who i repeatedly asked for his name and was never or his badge number and never given it, decided that he was going to help me pack and he grabbed my things and shoved them into my bag and i was then when i basically, he then arrested me and he handcuff me and put them on tight. He used a finger to put a Pressure Point on my neck and it was just very difficult experience. Willie, i dont know. What do you think . Well, okay let me help you out here because im always the one that gets in trouble. Ill get in trouble here. Ill just say if i saw that video and my son was the one the Police Arrested after that episode, i said, joey, here is a clue. When the cops tell you the 30th time says lets go, you know what that means, son . It means lets go. Im sorry. You know what . We have got a lot of questions out there. We got people angry in the streets because they wont release this cop name. We dont each know what happened. We have two sides telling something completely conflicting so there is a lot of Unanswered Questions here. But i do know this. When a Police Officer asks you to pick up i can only i can only ive been in places where Police Officers said, all right you know what . This is cordoned off, you guys need to move along. You know what i do . I go, yes, sir, or yes, maam. I dont sit there and have a debate and film the Police Officer unless i want to get on tv and have people talk about me the next day. I am sure i am just the worse person in the world for saying this. I can only judge how i would treat my son who is a reporter who, if he were in this position, okay, well, you know what . Next time a Police Officer tells you that youve got to move along because youve got riots outside, well, you probably should move along. Maybe im in the minority. I dont know. I dont see any evidence there were riots outside that mcdonalds. I wasnt at that mcdonalds. I wasnt there either. I dont know why the Police Officers were there. I know its bad out there. If youre a reporter setting up shop in a Fast Food Restaurant youre going to have a laptop, a wifi card, your phone, your charger. Going to take you more than 45 seconds to get it together. He was trying to imply. The question is what was the rush to push them out of there . When he slips basically and drops his briefcase, he gets arrested and pinned. It doesnt make any sense. We dont know how long that is. I dont know why the police were moving them along. Listen, im just concerned by what seems to be this common misperception that its illegal to avoid a Law Enforcement officer or take pictures of them. Its not. I dont think it is, but if they are coming in and saying that were cordoning off this area and they say you have a certain amount of time to do it and, instead, youre putting up a video phone and youre asking some kid with a gun who is 25, 26, 27, didnt make the orders. The only comment im reluctant to have journalists become the central of the story and seem to have become in this case and something more seriously is happening in ferguson than what happened to these two reporters, but i think for a police force that is trying to show the country that it is capable of exercising restraint, this was not a particularly smart public to do to slam the reporter against the Soda Fountain and handcuff them. First of all, katty, i think its a bad idea to look ukrainian guards. Paramilitary. Im sitting there going, boy by the way, im just talking about this one episode. Right. And, no, i find it really hard to believe that they couldnt have shown a little more he subtly through this entire process. They were quickly released when they got there and the chief got wind of this and said let these guys go. They were sitting in the cell and the cop came in and said who is the two journalists. Let me ask you guys something. Am i a sucker for the police saying telling you to move along or should i sit there and question him . By the way, what was he packing up . If he was packing up our entire control room, thats fine. He had a friggin laptop. Come on oh, wait, im packing up, officer, let me ask you a question. Im sorry. Isnt there a broader question . If it happened to these two reporters, it is some indication what is happening to other people in ferguson who are not able to is it . There is accusations of heavyhandedness by police in ferguson amongst the local population. But arent there accusations on both sides of this story . We hear the story cops bad. We had a Police Officer come out yesterday. They are calling basically signs holding and people calling for murder charges. And i understand, by the way, for everybody out there, going, joe just blindly know is on one side or the other. You know what . I caught hell what i said about trayvon for months. In this situation, we dont know what happened. We just have absolutely no idea and youve got people, you know, the cops are trying to protect the identity of this cop and his family until they know exactly what happened. We have, willie, two completely conflicting stories here. One, that the officer was assaulted. They went for the gun. They shoved him back in the car. And the other that this poor young man was just walking down the street and he was gunned down execution style. Yeah. What do you do with that . You have a couple of witnesses including his friend who gave the latter version of the story saying he was executed and the police Say Something. That is the core of this. What happened . We dont know. He was unarmed, we know that. Until that, its not worth of us sitting in new york or washington to debating. We can talk about what we see in the streets in ferguson and what is happening and i havent been on the ground there looks like a heavyhanded approach by the police there. When you have what have been for the most part peaceful protests. It seems a lot over the top. And i dont understand that side of the story and one side of the story so everybody can take deep breaths at home if youre ready to eat cheetos. You know what . When we talk to bill bratton the other day, you know, what would fix all of this . Have Police Officers wear cameras. Absolutely. So we know what is going on. That would do two things. That would stop this from going on. That would stop people from falsely accusing cops and put a Chilling Effects on cops that use their power to push people around. Im not talking about what goes on in this case. Im talking about what we have all seen with cops across america at times they get a little too much power and they get a little too cocky. It would have a Chilling Effect on that type of behavior. I guarantee you if cops on Staten Island were wearing cameras, every one of them, they wouldnt have put that man in a chokehold and killed him for peddling cigarettes. I agree. I cant think of a single argument left any more to not do this. It seems like good policy and its good for the officers. And its good for the people they serve. You know who its bad for . Bad cops. That is who its bad for. If im a good cop, i want that. Because i want everybody to know what happens. I want to protect myself. I want to protect, in this case, if and we dont know if this cop is innocent, then if he had a camera on, he would be safe, he wouldnt be worried about his family. If he had children, he wouldnt be worried about his children. If youre in a tough call, do you want the only camera on the scene to be a bystander . Exactly, with a cell phone. He could be coming in a minute whatever prompted the altercation. What you always hear from Police Unions and Police Chiefs and Police Officers, that shows a little part of it. Okay, fine. Give us the whole thing. Put it on squad cars which we have on a lot of squad cars and put these cameras on cops. It doesnt cost that much. Of the only group of people that it hurts are bad cops that abuse their power. There is another issue, with the Ferguson Police force and i dont know how this is replicated around the country. The fact it is ungrossly represented of the population it is serving. What is it . Only three of ferguson Police Officers are black in a population that is 70 black in that neighborhood . I think that has got to be addressed too. How much effort are they making to diverse their police force and why arent they hiring a more diverse police force . Youre asking for trouble. You really are. Its insanity. Absurd. Look at the pictures of the people in s. W. A. T. Uniforms its white guys in s. W. A. T. Uniforms. If youre going to police any streets in any neighborhood, you need the community to be a willing partner. Thats what bill bratton talked about in l. A. And what is talking about here. You cant do that if the police force is that grossly unrepresentative. Willie good night. Should we turn to some politics . I would love to. It was the hug everybody was waiting for last night. Can i just say . I wasnt waiting for it. I know. A bit tongue in cheek. Im not much on fake physical contact. We dont have any evidence of it. No, we dont. I think we should have every politician wear a camera so we know what they are doing and if they hug, we know. Thats an idea. So president obama and Hillary Clinton came facetoface last night for the First Time Since a public flap over Foreign Policy messaging and the debate to arm syrian rebels. They sat at the same table on Marthas Vineyard at a birthday party. Hillary clinton said she was looking forward to making amends early in the day yesterday. Hug it out with the president . Absolutely yeah we are looking forward to it. Going to be there tonight. Is it a hard choice . No. In the book, we agreed, we are committed to the values and the interests and the security of our country together. We have disagreements as any partners and friends, as we are, might very well have. But im proud that i serve with him and for him and im looking forward to seeing him tonight. There you go. Just two pals getting together. Why is it that whenever we see bill clinton come on, we do and you cant see it, we need to wear a camera so you can see what happens. Every time we see bill clinton, we just start laughing because he is just a natural. I love kentucky, you know . And Everybody Loves him. We were like cringing for her. Yeah. After all these years, maybe she has bob doleitis . Maybe she is great in person but its so canned. Its so calculated. Al hunt, you know, hillary, i have made no secret of it. Im not ashamed. I called hillary my girlfriend in 2008. I love her. She is great. Most people that talk to her and meet her away from when the cameras arent turned on, think she is just a wonderful, wonderful person. I mean, some people who have worked for her might not think of her like that but in this case, she still seems so awkward, so stiff and so canned. Lets be honest about it, so i insincere. The book could be titled dimple. I love your idea of cameras on politicians. I want to have the exclusive right to bill clinton cameras. Oh oh, my god. A lot of that has to be redacted we need a sevenminute delay. How many minutes would end up on the floor . Joe, you know, this pains me to say, but Hillary Clinton is having the same kind of season as bryce harper. She is underperforming and its careless talk. I think it was careless talk in the interview. Then the walkback was almost worse. I just think shes just, whether its sea legs, whether she is rusty, its really been a bad several months for her. Do i think she is still the favorite for the nomination . Of course, she is but i think what is occurring she is pro wall street and pro intervention and says to a number of democrats this is an easy ride to get in a primary and win 35 of the vote. Al, do you think as youve watched the last couple of months this process of going back to be the ringer as she was in the past couple of years and giving book tours and responding to questions has given her any paws about reentering the arena in a couple of years . Willie, i dont know. I think its a really good question. I doubt it because i think its almost inevitable she is going, assuming her health is good. But i hope, for cher sake, the lesson she has learned is that she has tond that maybe there is an inner circle doesnt serve her well and think carefully about some of these things. Shes a very smart woman. Whether its we were broke when we left the house or this latest, its been a bad couple of months. Al, whatever the calculations about president obamas Approval Ratings at the moment, do you think that for her there is any longterm benefit in what has happened over the last few days, showing that she is going to stand up to the president on Foreign Policy and distance herself . I think she has to strike some distance with the president over the course of the next year on both foreign and domestic issues. The same challenge that george w. Bush faced in 1987. I think, a, she is not doing it well. If her message is, guess what, im pro wall street and i am pro interventionist at a time when i think the country is more populous and wants to pull back, i think its certainly important in the democratic primaries. We are sorry about bryce, by the way. So am i. Its kind of astonishing, isnt it . The democratic party, the grassroots does not want a hawkish, you know, she lost last time because of this, right . Right. And now she is going out again saying im more hawkish than the president. Im not each sure republican voters want that. While youre talking about this, i see the tubes going around in the background. Oh, no. Im going to get dunked. Are you doing it . Yeah. Bobby jindal, the son of a guy challenged me. Im going to get wet and we are going to have a special guest here also. Really . You guys keep one of those in the building . I think mika may get dunked in too. Coming off of vacation. Her daughter is going to be leaving, amelia, wants to get one last shot in for her mom. This is for the als association. The thing that is going around. Its incredible. I did it a couple of days ago. I sent one to andy cohen. He did it live on his show last night and a couple of other ones. We will show that later. A couple of other ones, i think we should expand on. Brooke shields, wanda sykes. 37 monkeys running around and a camera on me, i dont know. I figured it out. Did you know any of those guys that got arrested last night in mcdonalds . Yes. They are probably wonderful guys. They are professionals. They are professionals, exactly. Have you seen any Silicon Valley . They sounded like characters out of sal convalley. Im sorry, they just did. I got my laptop. What are you doing, sir . I dont understand. Hold on 3. 2 gigabytes in this laptop, sir. What are you doing . I dont know. Have you ever seen Silicon Valley . Never seen it. You will love it. You got to do it. I trust my judge. Still ahead on morning j joe, the Creative Genius behind madmen. Matthew wieiner will be here wih more on that. Youre watching morning joe. We will be right back. son oh no. Can you fix it, dad . Yeah, i can fix that. dad i wanted a car that could handle anything. I fixed it dad thats why i got a subaru legacy. vo symmetrical allwheel drive plus 36 mpg. I gotta break more toys. vo introducing the allnew subaru legacy. Its not just a sedan. Its a subaru. That, my friends, is everything. 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They call me up at night. Come on. Everybody likes me. Everybody does. Willie, what am i supposed to do . Problem is he spends half of the day in the car. He lives six hours from work. He doesnt see anybody. T. J. , you want to tell the world how you got to work. The horse. Samuel. T. J. Has a long commute for those of you that dont know. Thank you, t. J. Its time for the morning papers. Sacramento bee. Lawmakers in california passed a 7. 5 million water bill. The drought that continues to cripple the golden state. This is epic. The new plan marks the most aggressive investment the state has made in decades. The money is allocated to build reservoirs and clean up contaminated water. Residents will vote on the measure in november. Wall street journal, cutting back on assault in your diet to harm your health. This is what we have learned, okay . Im so glad mika is not here for this. You need more assault, right . And fat is actually good for you too. You see that . In moderation. Im sorry. Like red wine in moderation. Assault, fat, and red bull, the three staple of any diet. And wine . No that is always there. Those who use less than 3,000 milligrams of assault had a 27 higher risk of heart attack, stroke, even death compared to those who consume between 3,000 and 6,000 milligrams daily. I like assault. Like we count the milligrams of sodium. The fda says it plans to review the findings. The New York Times. Ecigarette is said to be the cause of a smoking bag. Boston fire marshal says recharger batteries into in the cigarettes can cause a fire. The department is considering adding ecigarettes to the hazards material list. A texas teen was discovered living in a walmart two days after he ran away from home. Employees said he lived off food in the story and wore diapers. Come on. Can home be that bad . Incident to grow up to be an astronaut . He changed his clothes every few hours so he wouldnt be recognized. The teen was caught after employees noticed garbage which led to the area he was sleeping. So far, no charges have been filed. The diapers is proof enough. Only two days. Is that a testament to walmart . You could live in walmart, literally live in walmart. They have everything. Im stunned katty saying he was only living in diapers two days. That is like a long weekend at oxford. A bear mauling drove a girl to the hospital. Thompson was hiking on thursday when she spotted a sevenfoot bear that knocked her to the ground and bit her seven times. When the bear retreated she walked nearly two miles back to her car and drove to the hospital. She is expected to make a full recovery. Thats a tough woman. Wow. You know what we do . Alex just said, we need cameras on bears. That s. O. B. Thinks he is going to get away for this. He needs to be put down. Need accountable in the bear community. Terrifying video shows the moment water races through doors at a salve fear cafeteria in a hospital. The damage, full of three feet of water. Where is this coming from . Doors, tables, chairs, no patients or employees hurt during the incident. What happened . It looks like a scene out of the poseidon adventure. Nick, that was about 20 years before you were born. Upside down. Under down. The morning after. Maureen mcgovern. It has to be the morning after wow. Thats terrible. The end of the last segment we had an inflatable pool going up and after this segment, we have mike barn a balance sitting over there. He is coming up next with sports. Scary collision in the outfield. The number one baseball prospect in america is carted off the field after running into his teammate. Also, show you a play at the plate that caused this manager to absolutely lose his mind. I love that i love when they do that. So old school, billy martin. Mike barnicle joins us next for sports. Shopping online is as easy as it gets. 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Your ticket to a better nights sleep welcome back to morning joe. Pause for quick sports here. Mike barnicle is at the table with us. Scary moment at a Minor League Baseball game in connecticut. Minnesota twins star collides with a teammate in the outfield halting play for nearly half an hour as he lay motionless. Oh unconscious on the ground and taken off the field in an ambulance with a concussion. As if it matters his teammate hung on to the ball. We dont know the longterm prognosresnosresnosis but it wa concussion. Number one prospect in major league baseball. Fivetool player. Cant miss but he has got some problems this morning and we hope he is okay. A huge talent. Hope he is okay. Manny machado placed on the 15day dl. A right knee big strain. Took an awkward fall. By the way, that was thomas fault. He dumped a bucket of ice over him before the game. The old roberts jinx. Exactly. Os jonathan scope evened things up with a solo home run. Same inning, adam jones up with two men on. He jacks a threerun shot to left center for the baltimore lead. They hang on. Complete the twogame sweep with a 53 win. Mike, they are starting to run away with this division now. The os are very good. Adam jones could be an mvp. Where did this come from . They stunk about 30 years. They are a pretty good team but the rest of the American League east is really pathetic. Really . Really. How about old steinbrenner sounding like his old man . Telling the yanks to step it up. Might be a little too late. Check out San Francisco and white sox leading the giants 10 p. M. Bottom of the seventh. Crew chief reviewing a game time play at the plate. He is out by a wide margin. After the review, the umpires reversed the call because the new rule does not allow a catcher to block home plate so he was safe even though he was out. White sox manager Robin Ventura comes out of the dugout and gets his moneys worth. A little lou piniella, a little billy martin. They have alter that rule. That is terrible. Wait. Youre telling me the new rule and a catcher cant block the plate . The rule was put thats why you knock them over the rule was put in to prevent any more catchers going down with concussions. Its a sensible rule but it should be the umpires judgment. Clearly there was no threat to the catcher. That was a little swipe tag. Wasnt like he was standing in front of the guy guy. Why dont they put dresses on catchers. Come on. They do have catcher cam. Giants ran away with that game and won 71. We should tell you about a brandnew documentary title. The stars are aligned and takes a look at notable graduates from the s. E. C. Schools and their favorite memories. Although i said notable graduates, willie geist was interviewed about his alma mater vanderbilt history. The finest moment for vanderbilt football history was a game against tuscaloosa. Our punter calls a fake punt. If it blows up, the game is over. We were so shellshocked. We had a tyne pocket up in the corner of the stadium at tuscaloosa that we ran down the steps and ran back up and, for some reason, we had vanderbilt swagger and we were like, what is up now, alabama . Yeah vanderbilt swagger . Now in those days to score a touched in tuscaloosa was big. You say that was the longest run in vanderbilt history . It was done by our punter on a fake punt. That is on the s. E. C. Network which debuts today on espn. 9 00 tonight. Thats right. Stars a are aligned. Still ahead the democrats make a big bet to the tune of 9 million bucks but will it be money well spent . A campaign under way to elect the dude. Thousands of Montana Voters petition to get jeff bridges to run for the United States senate. We will have his response straight ahead. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 Million People. [ mom ] with life insurance, were not just insuring our lives. Were helping protect his. 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While the white house is trying to tamp down military operations in gaza, the pentagon secretly sending israeli more armaments. The story is filled with all sorts of nuggets, too. Including u. S. Officials said mr. Obama had a particularly combative phone call on wednesday with mr. Netanyahu who they say that pushed the administration aside but wants it to provide israeli with security assurances in exchange for signing on to a longterm deal. Unbelievable. With us to talk about this and the ceasefire from tel aviv, martin fletcher. It appears the ceasefire is holding, one, after a rocky start right before the deadline. Secondly, this story is just absolutely fascinating that netanyahu doesnt end runaround arched the white house. Reporter israeli quickly denied by many unofficial sources saying that its actually impossible in terms of the in terms of the how israeli gets its hands on the weapons. You know, america, the United States has a weapon stockpiles in israeli and they are in warehouses in israeli for any kind of strategic need, so when israel deems it necessary, they get permission. Wall street journal report on specifically, in particular, was the hellfire missiles which are airtoground rockets, laser guided or radar guided. Very sophisticated weapons that penetrate armor. Israeli apparently used enough of those fired mostly from apache helicopters to need resupplied. Whether or not they did it according to in the way they are supposed to from an israeli point of view seems unlikely. How do you bypass the white house and state department . On the ground, the weapons depot in israeli who has charge over this . The israelis or american presence on the ground . You have to have a permission slip to get the weapons . You cant walk through the door and get what you want. You need to get permission from the United States and the former israeli ambassador to the United States who was saying this morning there were strict protocols and strict procedures to get your hands on those. Having said that wall street journal seems to be very athorough tative and a hostility between the president obama and netanyahu. Whatever the details are whether or not israeli got a hold of the weapons in the proper way the more worrying thing in the long term i believe is israelis relationship with the white house at a time when israeli needs american help facing the worldwide hostile its to its activities in gaza to the horrific death toll. Martin, thank you so much. We really appreciate it. We will be following this throughout the day and the hour to see if the ceasefire holds up. Lets hope it does. Still ahead on morning joe, Hillary Clinton and president obama bury the hatchet on Marthas Vineyard but is a hug enough to mend fences between the democrats biggest stars . 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With guaranteed low prices on flash drives, its definitely the dads. Staples. Make more happen for less. Welcome back to morning joe. Blinded by the light. A beautiful shot of something. I dont know, thank you, t. J. Reagan national airport. Ready to hear come all ye faithful no, its beautiful. Great. So, any way we are going to get to North Carolina in a second. Nick, you brought up a remarkable wall street journal story. The story of the day. Talk about what you found there. They were trying to undercut the administrations position and kind of create a misperception about the ceasefire position of the white house to delay a ceasefire. Basically lying about our position. Who is the client state . Are we allies here or what . Its just amazing. Now we spy on each other an awful lot. I dont know. Lets go to North Carolina. Senator kay hagan looking to run as the party looks to hang on to the committee that is launching 9. 1 Million Dollar campaign in the race against republican. Watch this. Its right there in black and white. House speaker tom tillis drew a bullseye on public schools cutting nearly 500 million. He sliced and diced education and creating chaos in our classrooms and hurting middle class families while giving tax breaks to yacht and jet owners. Tom tillis. Cutting our schools, giving breaks to the wealthy. The democrat irsenatorial Campaign Committee are responsible for the content of this advertising. He knows jet owners . The war on jet owners. A recent poll shows tillis with a onepoint lead so they are tied over senator hagan. Well within the margin of error. What is going on in this race, nick . Money, money, money, money, money. A lot of outside money. 43 million in outside money in this race. More than what willie makes in a week. This 9 million is about a third of the democratic partys cash on hand for senate races. Thats a huge bet. Really . What is amazing is all of that money, the poll numbers really are not moving very much. Its basically where it was, like, six months ago. Can you imagine if somebody spent 43 million in the tax ads . Yet this race is locked in place and its absolutely critical. Over the past several cycles, we have learned talk about law of diminishing returns. The one thing the big donors said hold on we look back at history as joe suggests and not getting our return for that investment. If i was a small businessman putting my money on american politicians at the moment wouldnt be seen as a very good return. They are paying very close attention to these senate races and all of the people who run these big outside groups, karl rove, folks associated with the kochs, they have a huge amount on the line. They sell their donors we temper expectations this time and we can get definitely three or four senate seats but we cant promise seven senate seats because, last time, in 2012 they said we will get the majority and easy to win. Everybody understands the stakes and everybody is much more sense is a tiesed how their money is being spent this cycle and how effective its going to be. Al hunt, 43 million in a North Carolina senate race, thats insanity. Joe, i remember 30 years ago, North Carolina, early january, jesse helm and jim hunt tied. They spent a record sum and jesse helms won by one point. They didnt basically persuade any voters so i think what determines that race is they have come in and i think the Koch Brothers have spent 20 million down there and roughed up kay hagan some. I think what is going to determine that race will be whether the africanamericans and others in North Carolina are angry enough that turn out to vote and hire numbers and they usually do in offyear elections. A real roll of the dice of the democrats and its going to be tough. You look at the states, al. North carolina, arkansas, alaska, kentucky, you can go on and on and on. There are so many close races this year. This is going to be a big democratic year even though nobody is predicting that. It could be a big republican year or it could be a draw right down the middle. There are some tight races out there and all of the polls seem to be very close. Joe, i dont think its going to be what they call a wave election because as unpopular as obama is and Republican Party just as unpopular but it doesnt mean the close races may not break one way or most of them. Clearly if they break the republicans way they are going to win at least seven of those seats that they need to win. But its the red states that you mentioned but its also colorado and its iowa. Theres a good eight or ten races out there that have very close. Al hunt, thank you very much. We will see you soon. Thanks, al. Thank you, guys. At the top of the hour, the military calls off the mission of refugees in iraq. Joe is going to take the als ice bucket challenge as we freeze the water. Youre enjoying that way too much. 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Welcome back to morning joe. So good to have you guys with us. On set, the bbcs katty kay and the New York Times nick consofori and at the table with us is columnist for time magazine, joe klein and chief Foreign Affairs and host of Andrea Mitchell reports of msnbc, Andrea Mitchell. Andrea, got a couple of questions for you. And the spokesman coming up for Benjamin Netanyahu and ask him about the article in wall street journal. I bet you will. Joe klein, we saw hillary there hugging it out. We were talking a little earlier and get the details talking about earlier how anybody who knows Hillary Clinton, i like her a lot personally, but she puts on the political suit and she just seems so stiff, awkward and forced at times like yesterday. Yes, like yesterday. It was just painful. Its been a painful situation. I think that she wittingly separated herself from the president , although im not so sure that i agree with the positions she took in that interview, and it raises the question about how she is going to separate herself from another prominent democrat, her husband. Right. That is going to be a much big problem for her. I dont know if she is on Foreign Policy issue. Not on Foreign Policy, on wall street. On financial policy. That is going to be a far more central issue in a democratic primary. Right. She is going to have to make a decision about whether she supports things like her husband refusing to regulate stock options. She has already been down on to Goldman Sachs. Youre allowed to go to Goldman Sachs and take a position that they dont like. She went to Goldman Sachs and granted them absolution in her speech there. She said to wall street, we are not making you our enemy and that is the message they want to hear. They will accept some policy differences but they really dont want to be is on the wrong end of a stick and to be demonized. She has given them that and its fascinating to watch as joe points out. Lets go to Marthas Vineyard and get the details there actually what happened up there, katty. Well, when the Officials Say that the obamas, we dont have the actual photo, the obamas and clintons sitting at the same table last night, earlier in the day former secretary of state clinton was looking forward to making the amends. Its not clear if that actual hug was involved. Officials do say the obamas and clintons had a great time and danced to almost every song. We dont know if they danced together almost every song. Despite the much publicized dispute the white house defended the decision to keep reporters away. I believe the president and secretary clinton have had hugs over the past few years and im sure some have been caught on camera. I think this is a private gathering for someones birthday so its hard to bring you lovely people in. One of the articles is titled is this island big enough for clinton and obama . One writes her aides are making plain she has no intention of running for obamas third term. Another section, david axleford, obamas former Senior Adviser and analyst for nbc news is quoted as saying, i dont understand why they are doing this. If i were her, i would be be so sparing with this she makes herself a candidate and a target why she would want to be out there so early is beyond me. David is free to tweet his will, joe klein, the other day, a jab at hillary. Everybody is ganging up on barack obama right now. Hillary is knocking him down. Nothing to do with his Approval Ratings of course. According to this story another drag down knock out fight with him last week. Lets go to that story, Andrea Mitchell. Pretty remarkable. Netanyahu and israelis went around the white houses back straight to the pentagon to get more weapons, at the same time, white house was asking netanyahu to draw down, and if you read into the article too, they were also misrepresenting americas position in negotiations p. M. This dispute obviously, getting uglier between the white house and the israeli. Israeli and the white house are going to deny these kind of details but the fact is even from the very sanitized readouts that we have been given of recent conversations between the president and the Prime Minister, it is clear and certainly from what john kerry said in that caught on mike moment that he wasnt aware of when he was taping the sunday shows a couple of weeks ago, they are very concerned that the state department at the very top, kerry and the president , very concerned that israeli was not using what the white house feels is precision weapons in these densely populated areas. There is no question about that. These are american weapons and there are rules of engagement where we provide these weapons and furl all the way back into the 1980s with sharon in lebanon when cluster bombs were being used and talk in the Reagan White House because american weapons are not supposed to be used offensively in inappropriate ways. There are rules of engagement in the munitions that we sell. So there is is a lack of a lack of confidence here, a lack of trust, and one of the things that was really overlooked in Hillary Clintons interview with Jeff Goldberg is that she disagreed with president obama on iran, on the iran negotiations, and on israeli. If you read what she said about israeli, she is uncategorically supported of israeli in ways this president is not. Lets go to israeli right now and from jerusalem, we have chief spokesman for the Prime Minister of israeli, mark. A great day for you to be with us. We are reading stories in the u. S. Which im sure you guys are reading as well in israeli talking about how at the same time the white house and the state department are asking israelis to draw down a bit in the offensive in gaza, that israeli was going around the white houses back and actually securing more weapons from the pentagon without their permission. What is israelis response to those claims . The response is in the story. You know, theres no man closer to my Prime Minister, closer to Benjamin Netanyahu than our ambassador in washington ron durham. We have a close militarytomilitary relationship as you know. Its only natural that that sort of military request would go through our Defense Ministry of the pentagon. There is no one says that we violated procedure and no one can seriously claim that what we didnt dough was routine. Its simply how do you say it . Its a pile of sand not based on anything. So, mark, are you saying then this is more of a communication problem between the state department and the white house and the pentagon, instead of between the white house and israeli . My Prime Minister has been in office now, what is it . This his second and third term more than five years and parallels president obamas first and second term. I dont think there has been an israeli Prime Minister and an american president in recent history who have spent so much time working together. My Prime Minister respects president obama. I know that hes called the american support during this recent conflict in gaza and called that support terrific. The iron dome which was recently pushed through again, that is extra support for our Missile Defense system. We greatly appreciate and so i think a lot of these reports, they are wrong both in tone and in content. Time magazine joe klein is bus and has a question. Hey, mark, how are you . Go ahead. We got 12second delay. Dont ask how the weather is. Go militarytomilitary, i understand. What about politiciantopolitician . What can you tell us about this angry phone call between the Prime Minister and the president . And there is, as you know, a lot of precedent for this in this relationship. I think the word they used in the wall street journal was combative. I dont think thats a correct description of the conversation. Obviously, im not going to go into details of a conversation between the two leaders. Those conversations have to remain discrete and that is the way it should be. I can only tell you that since this conflict in gaza started president obama has been hearth for israeli and condemned hamas behavior unequivocally. Mark, there are lots of times you can point to instances where this relationship has clearly and publicly not been very good when Prime Minister netanyahu turned up in the oval office and lectured the president and when the Vice President turned up your Prime Minister announced new settlements on the west bank. This is not an easy relationship and the relationship between israeli and the United States is suffering because of it. I disagree when you use the term lecture. I was there in the room. I dont think that was the situation and i think the situation when Vice President biden visited was also a bit different. Thats my interpretation. Thats my impression and i was there on both occasions. I can say the following. I heard Hillary Clinton at the top of the hour saying as secretary of state she not always agreed with the president. Thats natural. People have different opinions. People have different policies. People dont see eyetoeye on every issue. Fountain president and the secretary of state dont see eyetoeye on every issue, is it is not illogical to president and Prime Minister of my country would agree on every issue . From the bbc, all of us know about the Great Alliance between churchill and they were allies and partners and anybody on who reads the history know the disagreements they had and also a policy issue. If i can put a bit of perspective on this, israeli and america are so close so whenever we have a disagreement its front page news this time in the the wall street journal, but we agree on much more than we disagree and we work together very closely. We should have actually listened to the british a hell of a lot more in 1945. Andrea mitchell . Mark, what about the fact, though, that the weapons, american weapons are used in a way that this president does not appreciate, that this president really is offended by. Its very clear from all of the statements from the white house. How can Israeli Defend itself against rockets coming from gaza if the United States is so upset about the tactics that israeli is using . You know, over the last few days, andrea, american pilots have been flying combat missions in iraq against isis and they are trying to be as surgical as they can to stop isis from committing mass atrocities. Both you and me know that sometimes bombs go astray and unintentionally and civilians get killed. We made a maximum effort we would we never targeted civilians, not once. But, mark, if you look at the situation in iraq many people think we are not doing enough because we are hitting artillery pens convoys out in the clear and letting isis gain ground like in mosul. What about the u. N. Claims that there were 17 warnings or 30 warnings in one case about the particular school . Can you address those . I can. Israeli did not target u. N. Facilities. I can say that unequivocally. I know they were shooting at us from a u. N. Facility or shooting at us from the immediate facility of a u. N. Facility and using that for shields of their terror machines. I know there was combat in the vicinity of u. N. Facilities because hamas and the other terrorists turned those fa sillities arls naturals of missiles kept in the u. N. We didnt want to see that in the first place. Mark, thank you for being with us. We greatly appreciate it. He is doing his job. He is doing his job. Im sure he is a good guy, but lets just say what has happened. This is a relationship that was fraught with problems and it has just got worse because obama has found that netanyahu is going around him to get weapons. I mean, you know, this has been a lousy relationship from day one. I think its felt on both sides. Obama spent his first term not going to israeli. He did. You see that poll 3 of, like, israeli people believe that he had their best interests or something. Got off to a rocky start. That people in the Clinton State Department perhaps including the secretary herself were really pushing him to go to israeli. Right. And to, you know, show a little love. He had been to cairo, made that important speech there. And there is resentment on both sides, i would say. I like how you defined it in the negative. He spent his first time not going to israeli. Like i spent my four years in college not studying. Lets bring in jim miklaszewski. Jim, thank you so much for being with us. So help us out here. We just spoke with, obviously, mr. Regev, netanyahus chief spokesperson, who denies wall street journal report, which is pretty stunning. Tell us, what are you hearing inside the pentagon . Reporter where this entire issue arose, people here at the pentagon were discussing it openly because, at the time, it was considered a pro forma exchange. These missions are forward located in a stockpile in israeli that are under the control of the u. S. Government so that in an emergency, if the Israeli Government needs munitions in a hurry, its there. But, jim, doesnt the commander in chief need to define what an emergency is and what an emergency is not doing . I mean, im surprised that somebody at the pentagon, in a situation this political, you and i both know that the more stars are on a generals shoulders, the more political they are, the more politically astute most of them are. Im stunned they wouldnt pick up the phone saying, hey, we got this request from israeli. If that happened, personally, i dont know that it happened that way. But officials here, at the time, described it as a prearranged pro forma exchange between the u. S. And israeli in terms of providing them ammunition. Can i tell you when we asked questions about it here at the time, there was nobody that was attempting to sidestep the issue, doing the tap dance. They said, oh, yeah, we did it, blah, blah, and here it is. So i cant tell you if, in fact, there was anybody here at the pentagon that fs trying to undercut the state department or the white house. Quite frankly, with the iron hand in which the white house rules this building, they dont sneeze here without waiting for the white house to say gezhuntite. For the minute i cant believe personally that people here at the pentagon were trying to purposely hide this transfer of munitio munitions. It calls into the phone call between the president and netanyahu. It calls into question why is the white house so ticked off about this at this point . If what jim says is true and im sure it is, why is the white house making a show of being really angry . The president has been doing this an awful lot lately. He is really seemed cynical, not just about the press. He was born cynical about the press. And about the republicans, but about his own policymakers and just about everything. Youre beginning to suspect this is one angry man. The wj say they have been getting ammunition from the pentagon without their approval of the white house. There is either an issue of communication or its something more underhand and conspiratorial about this. There is something here that is the white house is not happy about. Jim, we will end it with you. What it sounds like, listen to what youre saying and what the israelis are telling us this morning, it sounds like you had a pro forma exchange, at least the two parties are saying its pro forma exchange, that the white house didnt know about maybe because they didnt know the procedure . I dont know. It just doesnt add up. Reporter an example how they operate on the Foreign Military exchanges and sales. Normally, when we ask a question about it the standard response in this building is talk to the state department. Right. Okay. They know the rules. They know the routes in which this is supposed to take. I find it difficult to believe. It could happen. A rogue general sitting in an office somewhere and work hand in hand with the israelis but it just doesnt add up. Mick, thank you. Joe klein, thank you. What music are you listening to . Who should i go see in brooklyn . Who should you go see . I dont know. Right now, im just coming back and i dont know. I am going on a road trip in the fall and going through the south and listen to some great blues but also you owe me something. You told me you were going to take me to a Major College football game. Im going take you to an alabama football game. This fall . Roll tide, this fall and do music at the same time. We will do music at the same time. Andrea, thank you for being with us. A great day to have you on here. We really appreciate it. Andrea mitchells report is on at noon. Nick, thank you. Thank you. Good to have somebody else who has seen Silicon Valley. I just want to watch the ice getting dumped on you. Its coming at 8 45. Plenty of madmen, things are look like pretty dark for don draper. We will talk to the shows creator Matthew Weiner. President obama says no u. S. Combat troops in iraq but the special ops that were on the ground were definitely armed for battle. Air force secretary Debra Lee James joins us next. Bill karins will have an update on the flooding in the northeast. Youre watching morning joe. We will be right back. Ganncr we took care of your back pain. You make him the mvp. Tylenol is clinically proven to provide strong, fast pain relief. But for everything we do, we know you do so much more. Tylenol ahhh what is it . There are no marshmallows in this box of lucky charms huh. Weird. Seriously . What . Theyre magically delicious it can help your business save money. False. The truth is when you compare our Fastest Internet to the fastest dsl from the phone company, comcast business gives you more for your money. Why pay more for less . Call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. And find out more about our twoyear price guarantee. Comcast business. Built for business. For the fourth straight night, the streets of the st. Louis suburb look more like a battlefield. Police in full riot gear using tear gas to simmer the crowd. Joining us now from ferguson, missouri, nbc ron allen. Reporter good morning, mike. This is a piece of one of the munitions that the police were firing, a gas canister. We found it here. The tear gas was so intense, you can still smell and feel it in the grass and in the air here, slightly irritating to eyes. Many people arent surprised that this happened because they say that the level of hostility between the police and protesters demanding justice for Michael Brown and his family seems to grow deeper every day. For a fourth straight night, intense clashes turn the streets of an American City into a battlefield. Tear gas sending hundreds of people fleeing for safety. Dozens of heavily armed police s. W. A. T. Teams, military style vehicles, enforcing an order banning large gatherings after dark. Police say they responded with tear gas when bottles and molotov cocktails were thrown at them. It had all started peacefully. Demonstrators marching through the neighborhood where Michael Brown was shot and killed by a Police Officer. Some weapons pointed at the crowd. Youre subject to arrest if you do not leave the area peacefully j a man on crutches was removed by officers and this woman apparently got too close. We want peace and unity. We want to partner with the police to find out what happened and to bring justice for mike brown. Reporter police have insisted their tactics of recent days were necessary because of what they faced. The officers from area departments have been subject to assaults with rocks, bottles, an even gunfire directed at them. Reporter now some reporters also claim the police were heavyhanded forcing them to leave a mcdonalds where they were writing stories near the protests. Slammed into a soda machine. Grabbed my bag and my phone. And put me in temporary restraints. What do we want . Justice reporter with the investigation into browns killing expected to take weeks and residents demanding murder charges against the officer who allegedly shot him, many here fear still more confrontation. Police say they made ten arrests last night and in this area, theres so much violence that the fear of it, that the schools are closed to children today, about a thousand affected. Meanwhile, the police are trying to set up a meeting with the brown family as they try to do Everything Possible to try to calm the situation down. Joe . Ron, thank you so much. Wow. Its extraordinary that that is happening in this country. We are going to keep following that throughout the day. Turning now to news overseas. The u. S. Mission to help iraq rescue thousands of refugees. Debra lee james is with us. Madam secretary, what a day to have you here. Theres been so much bad news. We wake up every morning really early and scan through the news. Its all bad. This morning, it was like a ray of sunshine just because you never have good news. This morning, the good news came in the form of wire reports saying that actually what were doing, what a lot of your people are doing over in iraq actually is easing the humanitarian crisis there. Tels us about it. Youre absolute right, joe. First of all, thank you for having me on the program today. Youre right. Overnight the news seems much, much better coming out of iraq and i think the key takeaway is that our humanitarian assistance and the limited air strikes that were ordered by the president are actually working. Freed up the blockade, right, or the siege . So we and the u. S. Air force, for example, have been able to deliver more than a hundred thousand meals ready to eat as well as 27,000 gallons of fresh water and the limited air strikes have allowed some of the people trapped in the mountain to get off of that mountain so this is all good news. Madam secretary, most people read the newspapers and they see this and say that is great, look what we do, we are great and we are great, the United States of america is great. But the logistics behind a delivery like this, the daily drops of food and water has to be enormous. Where are these flights emanating from . As you point out theres a lot of work in the back office so to speak of our military to produce the type of operations that we see going on around the world. The key thing about mobility and that is the c17s and c130s that delivered this needed food and water is that they can emanate from any part of the world. They can come from the United States, they can come from europe and elsewhere in the area of responsibility. The key thing we have assets to be able to refuel and to be able tote go our people out safely to provide that protection and to get that needed humanitarian shi assistance in there. Madam secretary, i dont want to be the voice of gloom. Youre british. Why we have you on the set. Isis is trying to control this region and given the chance they will probably try the thousands of people stuck on the mountain. This effort is not over for the United States or the europeans that are joining you. How do you carry on both with the humanitarian aid and the strikes against is circumstances to try to stop them from going back into the cities and villages where they are committing genocide against these people . The president has said this is not likely a shortterm operation. First of all, later ask you why youre here before you go. 22,000. Hi no idea. 22,000 air force personnel in new york . Joe, i am here because of our people, our airmen. As you say, we have 22,000 airmen who either work in new york or who hail from new york. So just yesterday, i had had the opportunity to visit with our Air National Guard at our base and met with some terrific bronze star winners. They are combat rescue men to so these are people who rescue those on the battlefield. Later on today ill be going to rome labs for cybersecurity and the future of command and control and communications. We in the air force love new york. And from my friends at home in northwest florida, you also love . We love eglin weair force ba. Thank you for joining us. Thank you very much. Coming up next, two years after sandy, long island got smashed by another record storm and this time, some flooding there was even worse. Bill karins joins us for that. Up next, things get weird with louis. This is bad. They made me say it. I dont know. 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We will use any excuse to show you Justin Biebers mug shot from last sun. He accepted a guilty plea of careless driving and resisting arrest with that infamous miami arrest. He made a donation for a Youth Charity and take a course in angry management. That ought to do the trick. Martin hasnt finished writing the books to his wildly Popular Series but he says fans have suggested the ending. Martin said, quote. At least one or two of the readers put together the clues i had planted in the books and came to the right solution. Youre going to pay to answer those phones and get that coffee. Youre finished. Go. The Weinstein Company run by Harvey Weinstein is offering wideeyed hollywood hopefuls an opportunity to get their foot in the gor a medoor with a mere fi figures. The dude for senate . That is exactly what thousands of people from montana are calling for in on online petition urging jeff bridges to make a run after embattled john walsh backed out of the race. They call bridges the only candidate you can post pictures of him naked and smoking pot and it wouldnt affect him. Bridges told howard stern his week that his wife nicks the idea. Im unemployed. Joe, the dude does not abide. Back to you. The dude does not abide. I would like to see the dude run. He can just keep saying, thats just your opinion, man. That would be pretty good. Yeah. So you were the reporters in mcdonalds . Yeah. You think the cops did everything the wrong way . I think the clip that we showed earlier is evidence of how not to police, how not to police. I dont think the reporters necessarily moved fast enough and if i had been told by the cops waving a gun to move along i would have moved along before they got to the end of the sentence because that is me and i would want to do what they said. I think what they did after slam ago reporter under a Soda Fountain. Was that on video . Nobody. The guy talks about it. We need video cameras on cops. It also gets into, joe, another aspect we have talked about this earlier, and other programs, the increasing militarization of Police Departments in towns. Hard to figure out how they could handled this worse from the very beginning. They look like they are in the middle of ukraine instead of in the middle of america. How do you trespass in a mcdonalds . I dont know what was going on, mike, all right . Im only paid to be here. Thats why im here every day 365 days of the year. Thats true. Whether the little red light is over that camera or not. You should take a break once in a while. I will not do it. This is my home. Ive got no life. Outside of this. Its a grim existence. Coming up next, the end of an era. We will ask Matthew Weiner about the madmen finale and a few other things to discuss when he joins us next on morning joe. Moderate to severe is tough, but ive managed. I got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. 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That honor goes to bismarck. Smooth as silk. Seems like you on this is the hottest and wettest spot in the nation and i guess that makes it the number one destination for teenage boys. Hey, victoria . I guess so, steve. Oh, my gosh. Back to you. Back to you matthew, we go back a long way, my friend. A long way. Thank you very much for your maybe our earliest supporter of the show. I guess you had basically cable back then. I had basic cable and immediately called every to amc and i sat there and just watched it. Talk about binge watching. Lets talk about the movie first and then to madmen. Tell us about it. That looks hilarious. Its kind of the first thing i wrote after madmen. I wrote the pilot for that and then wrote it right afterwards. Its sort of a it plays a little bit on the way that we feel like were in a movie at some point. Zach and owen play best friends. I think they think they are liverg living in a stoe stoner comedy they are in their 40s and it was a chance to play with the idea of like what holds a friendship together. Tell me, because ive watched the internship like during my vacation 70 times on hbo. What is it about owen wilson . So funny. I love owen wilson. What is it about that man on screen that makes everybody love him . I wrote the movie for him. Did you . One of the thing that was kind of fun about it this plays with his onscreen persona because he is similar character. He is a little wasted and has problems with authority and he is unreliable but he also, it sort of becomes a story about, like, what happens if that guy has to, like, look at himself in the mirror . What is going on underneath that . The thing i love about owen is he has this warmth. He has kind of like bill murray glibness to him which i love. He does. But he is also really an actor and i think a little bit of sensitivity to him underneath it and he is super smart and i think goes against the entire character he is playing. Can you script zach . Zach is a real actor and he learned his lines. No, i want people to know that. You dont need to script him to some degree. He radiates a kind of warmth and he is just like a really nice guy. We shot in North Carolina, which is where he is from. He was hes just a lot of fun. Its exactly what you would want it to be. In the description you gave of owen and the fact you had him in mind for this part and you wrote it for him and then the description that you give maybe not a directors dream in terms of putting a guy that could be a little dry . That is his character. That is his character, you know . But he can take direction . He had an oscar nomination for writing. I dont. He is really smart. And so hes playing a person so he is thoughtful about it. But there is something he does with the silence and something about him being able both of these characters a lot of this movie is about telling the truth and both of these characters, especially owens character says exactly what is going on in the in a moment most matter how incredibly awkward it is. You see that. He gets away with it. I dont even know what that quality is. I dont know if its, you know, a childhood thing, adaption thing but there is a mystery about stardom and what people, talk about characters popping or actors getting in the screen and what they give off. I dont know. For me, hes always in this, like, a little bit of thought under neath all of that and a little bit of sadness. The movie has like this sort of change of tone and i think you will see that owen and zach are doing things they have both never done before. Lets talk about madmen. It was a little darker this past season. I said it reminded me of watching let it be. The documentary you have all of these people you love but it seems to be surrounded by, what, a lot of sadness. Yes. But its also a story of triumph. Yes. This is the whole thing about telling a story. There is going to be 92 hours of this thing when its done. One of the things you want to do is not repeat yourself. You wano is not repeat yourself but you dont want to mix it up to keep it interesting. Part of it is to sort of take the next step in his life. The previous season he had ruined his life. It was the story of 1968, it was also the story of don falling apart. His daughter found out that he was having an affair, his drinking was out of control and how ironic don didnt get in trouble when he was lying. He only got in trouble when he was telling the truth and that was when we had that wonderful scene with sally at the end, whos just an extraordinary actress. But he asked why she had gotten fired after he kept it from her and he said basically because i told the truth. Yes. At the wrong time. Not great parenting probably to share that with your kid but she knows a lot of things about him that we dont know about our parents, hopefully. And the story last season was kind of him working his way up inside his own business and kind of saying, well, youre waiting for him to selfdestruct. Youre waiting for him to act on his impulses and blow it like he always does. Youre waiting for him to be selfish, and youre hoping that he can repair his relationship with peggy. Telling that story, when we did that episode in particular with sally, which was directed by mike uppendahl. Youre like he has to tell the truth to her, treat her like an adult. She knows everything about him. And that scene at the end which is every parents dream. We were saying like don draper, a lot of his life is about his horrible childhood. He has just learned that you really got to work a lot harder to lose the love of your kids. Every time the show can have a genuine earned emotion, i think it distinguishes it. I think it distinguishes it from the kind of liker for formulaic stuff. I just want to show one more scene. Im sorry, were way over. I dont care. You dont have the scene . Why dont you yes. Which one. I think you can, question authority. I think one of the more do you have it . Okay, play it. Lets get things started no, come on. T. J. , you suck. You did that on purpose. Show me show me the one. Do you have that one . Here we go. Heres one of the more telling scenes i think. I want you to tell me about it, go, t. J. You said you didnt know what was going on. This beatles album, start with this one. Have fun. Don draper in a world he doesnt understand anymore. He is a sinatra man, not a beatles man. I think everybody was a beatles person. This, like a lot of the stories on the show, was something somebody told me. And the guy told me this amazing story that he and his father, they had a lot of battles, but they both loved the beatles. And then revolver came out and they listened to the album and his father just said i dont get this anymore. And to me it was like don is not does not want to be part of that. Its not just its definitely part of the thing about it being a sinatra thing but thats one of the interesting things about this period and about the show. We did my way last year. My way is a number one song in 1969. I dont know that everybody is a sinatra man or beatles man or the jefferson airplane. There is a subversive streak in the United States. Theres also an openness that goes with it. And you see something where our perception of what it was like is not its like it is now, you know. If you want to, you can keep up with things. My dad real emotion wins out. I became a huge beatles fan because my dad had every album up until revolver. So you tell that story, yeah, he didnt understand anymore. Listen, were excited. Thank you for being with us, matthew. Thank you. And the movie is are you here. It debuts next friday, august 22nd, in theaters. Im sure we will all be there to see that. Thanks so much. What happens at the end . Let me tell you. Hold on. Hold it right there. Well get it right after break. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Start a team. Join a team. Walk to end alzheimers. Visit alz. Org walk today. [ thud ] visit tripadvisor rome. With millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. Hing your favorite players come on, get open. Yeah. With millions of reviews, with nfl mobile on verizon. Yes get in there go, go, go, go, yes lets go, drew. The notsogood more would be them always watching you. Go for it, paul get open come on, paul lets go hustle what is that, chamomile tea . uh, lattes. 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Spiriva helps me breathe better. Sfx blowing sound. Does breathing with copd. Weigh you down . Dont wait ask your doctor about weve got dr. Jeffrey sachs, he isnt giving Hillary Clinton a free pass on Foreign Policy. Why he says shes pushing for a mindless call for more war. Plus Leigh Gallagher on whos topping the list of the 100 Fastest Growing companies. Plus recordshattering rain leaves drivers stranded and the threat is not over yet. Bill karins will be here to check on the forecast. Also, i am going to get dunked in very cold icy water. Machines will be sprayed to be made. And making something stronger. Will mean making it lighter. One day, factories will work with the cloud. One day. Is today. Dad hes our broker. He helps looks after all our money. Kid do you pay him . Dad of course. Kid how much . Dad i dont know exactly. Kid what if youre not happy . Does he have to pay you back . Dad nope. Kid why not . Dad it doesnt work that way. Kid why not . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at Charles Schwab thousands of yezidis have spent ten days looking death in the face. While the white house has insisted that u. S. Troops would not be put back into a combat role in America American military forces were on the ground today in the middle of a combat zone. The heavily armed green berets were there to assess what it take to put together a rescue operation. The question is whether American Forces will get drawn into a direct slash with the militants of the islamic state. After dark it does get a little dangerous. For the Third Straight night the streets of ferguson looked like a battlefield. Tear gas has been filling the air and bullets of lighting up the night. Two reporters in ferguson, missouri, were arrested by Ferguson Police. Evidently i was not moving quickly enough. Im ready to take my kids and im ready to go. Its scary. Are you going to hug it out with the president . Absolutely. At an event in marthas vineya vineyard, its getting a lot more attention than it might have. Since clinton criticized her former boss in a magazine interview. We had any disagreement as partners and friends and im looking forward to seeing him tonight. She still seems so insincere. Harry reid said what youre doing is a political stunt. We will do what we have to do in the state of texas to protect our citizens. Harry reid needs to try that on. Yes, sir. All right. Welcome back to morning joe. Great to have you back with us. Do we have the clock, t. J. , are are you going to screw that one up too . I have it. Do you want to put it up there . Oh, look at that. So theres the 50 minutes till i think i get in there and get ice water dumped on me, all for a good cause. This is mikas daughter amelia and graham. Theyre going to dump, i guess, ice on mikas head too. Its the last thing shes going to do before going off to college. She gets one last shot at her mom. Thats good. Its good to end your 18 years at home. Its a good negotiation tactic for the allowance discussion. I think so. With us on set we have Fortune Magazines assistant editor Leigh Gallagher. Also the director of the Earth Institute at columbia university, dr. Jeffrey sachs who, wow, Hillary Clintons Foreign Policy deception. Were going to be talking about that in just one second. First, parts of the midatlantic and northeast are cleaning up and drying out after heavy rain sparked flooding across several states. Yeah, the hardest hit area appeared to be long island where islip, new york, saw a record amount of rain. 13. 57 inches. That is a lot in under 24 hours. Its more than the region typically receives all summer long. Lets go to bill karins for more on this horrendous wet weather. Bill . This 13. 5 inches of rain, guys, is not just a daily record or monthly record, were talking an alltime new york state weather. Think how long weather records go back in new york state, back to the 1800s. No single location has ever recorded 13 inches of rain in 24 hours before. Think of all the hurricanes that have hit, the noreasters and all the big thunderstorms. This was the most rain ever. So islip, new york, the new record holder at 13. 57 inches of rain in 24 hours. The old record, by the way, was only set two years ago when hurricane irene went through, about three years ago and that was in tannersville, new york, at 11. 5 inches of rain. Where else did we get drenched . Maryland saw 10 inches. Whats amazing about this storm, a little bit of a head scratcher with our weather extremes is that so many locations saw flash flooding. This wasnt a hurricane, this wasnt a Tropical Storm. This is new pictures coming in from last night all the way up in portland, maine. They picked up 6. 5 inches of rain from that same storm. Thats as much rain as they would typically get in three months in portland, maine, during the summer. You can see this just adds to the hundreds of vehicles that were swamped up and down the east coast. Other areas, of course two days ago in baltimore, three days ago in detroit, all from the same storm system. Thankfully its gone and we dont have to deal with it ever again but we have to deal with its aftermath for a while there. Still some Power Outages and a lot of water waiting to recede, especially for those areas around long island and islip. Greatly appreciate it. Glad that has passed. Were actually going to have a nice weekend up here, going to feel like fall. So lets go from long island to iraq. Obviously. Obviously thats the next step. There are strong signals in iraq that the u. S. Will not launch a rescue operation for those displaced civilians. A team spent 24 hours on top of mt. Sinjar where waves of refugees fled from islamic militants. The pentagon said several thousand refugees are still there but far fewer than reported a week ago. Ongoing u. S. Air strikes have allowed many to escape. Defense secretary chuck hagel says it is far less likely that an Evacuation Mission will be needed. Meanwhile Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki is striking a defiant tone. He might as well be talking to a wall. I think he thought iran would help him but they have ditched him to. The u. S. As undercut him, the military has undercut him, now hes going to the courts . He does have these militias and special forces and military who are loyal to him, so could he try and get them out on the streets again . Politically, it looks like hes over. Well see. Jeffrey, boy, this is seems to be a much tougher call. You know, weve been against military intervention in a lot of been together since 2008, 2009 on a lot of issues like this. How do we respond, though, to the growing isis threat without trying to get a group of nations together to work with us to stop the spread of isis . Well, the first thing is we understand it. What is it . Well, it is very radical, obviously very murderous group but it emerged in the context of our syria policy. Our syria policy was to destabilize the syrian government. This opened up space for every kind of horror, including the isis horror. So every time we intervene we have an antimidas touch from libya, searia, iraq. We destabilized the whole region. We destabilized syria and then it falls to pieces, isis grows out of that. Are you on hillarys side, are you on the president s side that we should have gone into syria earlier . Barack obama says its fantasy that if we went into syria earlier we could have actually done something to stop the killing of over 100,000 syrians. What do you think . We went into syria. Its been hidden from the American People by and large. We dont know how far in syria we are and have been. Theres been lots of secret weapons moving, lots of secret money moving, lots of publicly announced money moving. Were in syria. We have succeeded, in quotation marks, in destabilizing a region and now there are the same way we were in bosnia, by the way. We got in enough to create a complete disaster. Youve established that. So we all agree. Yeah. Lets agree for arguments sake that we created the disaster. Were one of the parties and we contributed to it. So what do we do after that . What do we do now . What do we do moving forward with isis . I think youre correct that a number of governments have a critical stake in isis not being this murderous group that it is. Where are they . Wheres turkey . Wheres germany . We have something called the united nations. Thats a good place to start. Instead of us just taking this on unilaterally, once again making the incredible kind of mess that we keep making, lets try to find a real solution that actually speaks to the interests of the neighboring countries. Where are our european allies . They seem to be on a vacation from history. Everybody has just assumed that the United States is going to clean up messes across the globe and when we go too far, they turn around and attack us for trying to clean up messes around the globe. Why cant we drag the germans, why cant we drag the e. U. And drag other people who have more of a stake in curbing isis than do we . I think one of the things we have to remember is that many times the europeans have said stop, youre about to step into a land mine, like in iraq in 2003. They told us absolutely right, dont do that. We said what are you, cowards, pacifists and so forth and we ended up creating a disaster. Its 2014 now, jeffrey. Well, im saying we have a pattern now repeatedly in iraq, in syria, in libya that has destabilized now an entire region. Its incredible to read the interview with president obama where he says, well, yes, we overthrew gadhafi. We didnt think very much about what would come next. Are you kidding . How can you say that in 2011 when we saw the experience in 2003. So the instability across the middle east is all the United States doing . No, no. Its just that we are so not smart in what were doing, its unbelievable. Did you ever see team america . I havent. You should see it. Jeffrey, you write about Hillary Clintons Foreign Policy deception and hillary may want to walk away from this mess but she cant. T of course the u. S. Is not the only failure in this story, theres failure galore among all participants. Yet with all of the urgent issues the world faces, fighting diseases, climate change, extreme poverty, high unemployment, widespread illiteracy, our political leaders have doubled down on war, including clintons tough talk. Most of us are utterly tired of the mindless call for more war that is leading the world deeper into despair. Theres no doubt that this country is war weary and nearly bankrupt because of our expenditures in various wars. But with regard to this particular region and this particular group, katty, is it not the case this is the saudi duplicity, egyptian duplicity and even iranian duplicity, they are all our natural allies in this fight against the growing threat of isis. And theres been a stunning silence from around the region. From the qataris who were supporting them in syria as militant extremists. You havent heard much from the iranians and the saudis. The only way that the situation is going to get resolved in iraq at the moment, the only chance we have of really rolling back isis and making this an organization that is no longer a Real National Security Threat to the United States and to europe is by getting a political regional solution from those countries. Bravo. This is exactly right. We cant do this. This is not the u. S. Job. And i think when joe, to your point when it was about syria, i do think actually there was much more pressure in europe from politicians the french and the british. And britain too to get involved at that stage, to get involved earlier on in the syrian operation. But iraq is still seen as americas problem. It really is. And youre right, isis constitutes a threat to europe as well. There are fighters there from europe as well, but iraq is seen as americas problem. Joe, we sat at this table when president obama and Hillary Clinton said assad must go. I remember saying to you, what . What are they talking about . How are they going to do it . Whats going to happen . Mubarak must go, assad must go, gadhafi must go. We talked about it and said you cant make a Statement Like this and think things are going to come out roses and here we are. They dont think. One of the big issues here that hasnt received the headlines that it ought to receive because of the ongoing conflict with isis on an everyday basis is jordan. If isis manages to control part of jordan or overthrow the jordanian government, which is very tenuous to begin with, think of israel, its nextdoor neighbor. Whats going on in gaza is going to look like a day at the beach. And the thing is, yes, we started this in 2003. The reason i said its 2014. Weve got to deal with it now. The europeans have to deal with it. The saudis have to deal with it. Qatar would have to deal with it but theyre at the root cause of so many problems across the middle east its stunning what they get away with and why more people dont trace what theyre doing with terrorist groups across the middle east. Im not sure why they get a free ride on that. But yeah, the saudis, for god sake, why arent the saudis doing more . And you said the crucial word, political. Not military. You said it needs a political settlement. Jeffrey, you write in the arab spring in 2011 we were got wholly flatfooted. Our policy has been completely reactive. Why do you think that is . Because nobody in washington is paying attention to on the ground. We just look at these countries only for what they mean for us in the most reactive way, oil, for example. Or, you know, some immediate thank god were going to get a lot more oil in america, huh, jeffrey . Yeah, this is its unbelievable. Weve just not paid attention for years. We dont have a feel on the ground. When youre there, i travel in these countries all the time, you see a lot that isnt reflected in washington at all. Then when something happens, boom, war. Overthrow them. Thats what we do. Jeffrey sachs, weve missed you. Happy to be back. Come back more. I will. What are they saying about morning joe in subsaharan africa. They love it. At the vatican, the pope, everywhere. You say wherever you go its unbelievable. Weve heard this obviously from egypt i can be any place in the world. Hey, i saw you last week on morning joe. I was in ethiopia, i was in row wanda, just hearing it everywhere. Isnt that crazy . I know im ironic a lot of times, but here we hear this all the time. World leaders from across the globe actually watch this show. Jeffrey came back and he said, you know, i even get it at subsaharan africa. No question. Its crazy. Do they watch it on their phones . Everywhere. They tweet it out,in incredible. Coming up on morning joe why the pope means business. 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Tell us about your story about the holy reformer. Sure. Well, weve all seen in the past 18 months what pope francis has done. The francis effect, the 4. 3 million twitter followers, the way he has completely reenergized the catholic church. We made him our number one worlds greatest leader a few months ago because of that reason. But what a lot of people dont know and whats lost in this story is that he is actually an incredibly savvy manager. And what hes done, he has gutted the way the vatican does business, the way it manages and in particular rearranged its finances soup to nuts. The cardinals never saw this coming . They never did. He replaced old guard cardinals. He brought people in from ernst young. Youre kidding. No. He knows how to bring in the right leaders under him and motivate them to get the job done. As a result, its just being completely transformed. There had been a level of corruption and secrecy in the vatican bank that was historic. And dealing with that bureaucracy would have to have been mind boggling. Yes. In fact before he was named pope, he was a longtime critic of the way the vatican did business. The inside dealings, bids go to friends of the church and no competitive bids, an insular way of doing business, which is not a good way of doing business for many reasons. Hes got this elite managerial skill set that i think is something people have no idea, for all the other things that hes done that we know about. He also knows a lot more about economics than most economists. He understands actually whats wrong with the world economy. We have this incredibly growing inequality gap. What even people in the United States dont understand is the wages that you pay to people who work for you are revenue for everybody else. We are now obsessed with profitability, maxing it out. Weve got to start actually paying our folks more. Thats one of the messages hes preaching. Absolutely. And he says that you cant he cant meet his bigger need, which is helping the poor around the world, help get needy is his biggest mission. You cant do that unless your books are in order and thats also something new. Lets go to the Fastest Growing companies. Sure. Im glad henry is here. Im going to ask henry some questions about this as well but lets talk about the fastestgrowing companies. This is a list we do every year and we rank them on profit, revenue and stock growth over the past three years. This is whos hot in sort of the recent past. Whats interesting this year is a full quarter of the companies are involved in shale oil and natural gas. So a fourth of these companies are either refining, delivering, servicing, selling, discovering, so its really a metric of whats hot in our country. Does one company stand out . No. There are probably a lot you havent heard of. Number one is actually a Pharmaceutical Company thats developed an antiinflammatory drug so thats always an yar where we see a lot of growth. I just heard a funny term this week, hopium for pharmaceuticals. Hunger games very good for liongate entertainment. Toll brothers has really risen a lulu lemon is on here. Apple still . Apple is still there. Henry, let me ask you, you look at the bubble in 99, 2000, you look at the housing bubbles. When you look through these lists, how do we sort through the pets. Com versus the apples versus the microsofts. There are pockets of incredible opportunity. Energy, the United States has a huge energy boom which is driving a lot of job growth, its been very good for reducing dependence on the middle east and so forth and a lot are in there, but it seems to be relatively widespread right now. Part of the issue in the 1990s was it was centered on technology and housing, everything was tied directly to housing. Now it seems to be relatively diversified. So you mentioned income inequality which is a staggering problem we have to confront in this country, but how do we get through the mindset, you get these big corporations and they announce we laid off 10 of our workforce and their stock goes up. You have to ultimately focus people on the longer term, which is that if we keep destroying the American Consumer by reducing costs to the absolute minimum we can pay people, youre ultimately destroying the buyers of your products. The reason our economy has been so strong since 1950 is that we had a very well off middle class that could support every company. If we gut it, and were continuing to do that, theres no revenue for other companies and ultimately the economy just breaks down. If you really want to get somewhere, you can try appealing to fairness. Maybe share a little bit more of the wealth that the company creates with the people who create it. If that doesnt work, appeal to longterm greed which is companies will grow a lot faster if you put more of what youre making back into the economy with wages. Henry ford famously figured this out over a century ago. His employees were customers, so pay them well. Exactly. Great points. Leigh, this is great. Holy reformer on the cover. Thanks for being with us. Thanks. Coming up, whats the next best thing to creating your own internet startup . Investing in one just as it gets off the ground. One of the top ceos joins us on the web on morning joe. Plus, you invite someone on the show and how do they repay you . By publicly coercing you to dump a bucket of ice on your head. Look, the tarp is coming out, mike. Obviously its going to be wet around here. Rain delay. Bobby jindal, thanks so much, buddy. Well be back with more morning joe. So ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts . Thats right. Its just that im worried about you know hidden things. Ok, whys that . 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Well, thats whats exciting about new york right now is youve got Technology Enabling the transformation of Industries Like retail. Right. Where not much has changed since the invention of the automobile. With the development of the internet and the smartphone, our belief was youre able to build a brand with the internet at its core. So we took these greatfitting pants and said lets deliver a digital model where we can deliver not only great clothes but Great Customer service. That was 2007. People said you cant build a brand with the internet as its core. We said not only do we think we can but were going to offer better product and service as a result and now you see companies, transforming eyewear and harrys transforming razors so its not just about us. So heres the friction here. Obviously a great idea for people that dont have tons of money, have a great idea, they can go out and have the internet as their core. Stores, you dont have to hire thousands of people. And so theres a good side to that. But the bad side of it is, again, that you have less people working in retail. How do we strike that balance moving forward . Well, hopefully they are paying the people who are working for them well and the people who are no longer working in retail can either work for Companies Like yours or can create new companies. The economy is always transitioned. We used to be a farming economy, then it was a heavy industrial economy. Jobs have always been created as long as people are creative. The point is, the goal shouldnt be to pay the people who create the value as little as you possibly can. It should be to share the value with them. Talk about the boston store. Mike was asking about the boston store. Talk about that, if you will, because its fascinating how your operation works. Well, one of the things in responding to henrys point tying to the store that we found to be exciting is actually sharing the ownership with the company. So most of the time in retail what you do is you say were going to hoard all the profits and youve got the employee peons. We flipped the script and said lets make everyone in the company owners. So coming back to our guide shops, weve got ten now. Boston, chicago, San Francisco, all these places. The managers are equity owners in the company. Same for our Customer Service ninjas, which is our Customer Service team. Most people are talking about running Customer Service on the other side of the planet, were running it here in new york city. If you want to offer great service, you have to make the people who are providing that service, in case the ninjas and the guides, you have to make them owners of the company. But what happens in the store, to joes point . Our stores we think are a revelation. We think this is the future. You come in, you get an amazing Customer Service experience. A great onetoone interaction. You come in, you have an appointment, you try stuff on, you touch and feel the product but the whole thing is guided. So youre getting greatfitting product but awesome style advice as well. At the end of your time with us, we place an ecommerce transaction which fulfills through the mail. So you take all this inventory out of the store and that enables you to focus on just great human interactions in the store. I think apple was the pioneer of this with the genius bar. You were talking about lululemon earlier. Theyre great at offering a great experience in stores. I think stores are just changing into more experienced and Customer Service. You are hiring people in your stores. This is not just online only. Youre actually hiring giving people real jobs and some of the you have a Venture Capital firm that you started and is investing in similar companies. One of those companies is task rabbit, which is a great counter argument and making another point what henry said is that a lot of these new companies are giving people new ways to work. This outsources tasks. I need a dress to be picked up, i cant get out of the office. You hire someone to do it and they bid on it. Now they changed the model a little bit. So they do your task for you. They are students or parttimers and they are finding new ways to is there an app for this . Yes. Did you get reviews on this . Look it up. Its the future. Ive got to get out of 1979 and get the 8 track tape away. Get yourself a cell phone. These are pretty cool, you should get one. Ill try one of those things. Try an app. An app . Yeah, app. Whats that . Im just going to go home and watch my beta max. This is fascinating, aebd. Are you wearing our clothes . Not just our pants anymore. Shirts, jackets, were seeing huge growth in suits and blazers and button down shirts. All right. Fantastic. 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I want to thank drew brees for challenging me to take the als ice bucket challenge. Im happy to accept in honor of team gleason. Ill also be making a donation. I want to challenge les miles, Willie Robinson and joe scarborough. Youve got 24 hours. Oh, my goodness. With us now is republican governor bobby jindal of louisiana. Governor, my goodness, is it i dont know, what is it . Is it some past criticisms that we may have had about your esteemed office or being an alabama fan . Why are you picking on me, man . Why are you picking on me . Joe, ive never been more popular with your staff and your producers. They were so excited when i did this. You know, look, as an alabama fan, you guys arent going to be able to do a gatorade shower later this season when we beat you. Look at this, lsu fan already talking smack, mike barnicle. You can take care of him this fall. Thats what im saying. So have you heard back from les miles. You challenged les, is he going to do it . Ive heard back from willie robertson. Im thrilled youre going to be such a good sport about this. I want to be very clear, theres a new trend called the naked ice bucket challenge. Im not challenging you to that, that is not at all thats not good tv. So this is just the plain, vanilla, ice bucket challenge. Mike barnicle wants to actually volunteer for that. That will really help ratings a lot. Through the roof. Were going to talk about why you did this, why you challenged me. The bigger cause in a minute a little bit later on right before the ice is dumped on my head and mikas head as well. First of all, lets talk about a couple of things. Lets start with common core. This is an issue that seems like a great idea to a lot of people, including conservatives like jeb bush. It seemed to take a nasty turn. Ive actually heard parents from moderate republican and democratic families walk up to me and express concern about common core. Its not just been right wing nuts, as the Mainstream Media would want us to believe, but a lot of concerns about common core. Whats your whats your evolution on this . Well, look, i originally thought the idea of standards locally was a great idea and im still for rigor in the classroom. The reason im opposing common core so strongly and fighting to get it out of louisiana is that it has become something very different than what it started. Now its become driven by the federal government, the federal bureaucracy. It was never intended to be a top down approach. The federal government has never made curriculum decisions in our local schools. I think its a mistake to do that. A lot of times people who are for common core try to say if youre against us, youre against standards. Thats not true. Im for tests, im for standards. I dont want the federal government driving these standards. As a parent, i look at the math standards and some of the reading text and im very worried about my kids doing these things. I think it would have been better if they had slowed down, let the teachers, let the parents have more involvement, have more transparency. I think they have rushed to do this. So i think the idea of standards is good, i just dont like the idea of a one size fits all approach from the federal government. Speaking of high standards, the bbcs katty kay is here. Governor, you were up in des moines, iowa, there, and the register there said you got a warm welcome. So how is 2016 looking for you . Look, im thinking and praying about it. Wont make a decision until after november. Weve got to win some important races this november. If i were to decide to run, i certainly think that our country is hungry for a big change in direction. Not incremental change, especially when it comes to restoring the American Dream for our children and grandchildren. Theres a lot of frustration with both democrats and republicans in both parties that all they want to do is make incremental changes. Even in d. C. You hear from republicans you cant repeal obamacare, you cant pal the budget, you cant grow the economy. We need stronger Foreign Policy. But there will be time after november to make those decisi s decisions. Right now lets win the senate and these governors races. Governor, back to the common core, where does louisiana rank in terms of education and math in National Standards . Well, historically louisiana has not done well but recently weve implemented very aggressive reform so in new orleans, 90 of our kids are now in charter schools. We have doubled the percentage doing reading and math on grade level in five years. We have got the highest ever Graduation Rate in our high schools. At one point in new orleans before these reforms, 60 of our kids were in failing schools. Now its less than 6 . You look across the state, record growth in the number of kids taking a. P. Exams, more kits doing well on the a. C. T. , so we have seen Rapid Improvement and rapid progress. Weve still got work to do. Im not saying were where we want to be but were doing better than we have before because weve done charter schools, merit evaluations of our teachers. We do school choice. Im all for reforms and im all for accountability. I think its important. Louisianas kids learn the best math and we can compare them to kids in other countries and other states. My problem with common core is, again, the federal department of education, arne duncan through race to the top, no child left behind, has made this into a federal takeover of our local curriculum. Thats whats not acceptable. Governor, this is thomas roberts. Just two quick things. First of all, thank you for accepting the als challenge that you took and thank you for challenging joe. Did your other two nominees accept and have they done it . Willie has accepted. Hes going to do it later today. Weve not heard from les miles. I think we can raise a lot of money for als by auctioning off the rights to dump joe. Think about all the money you could raise offering people the chance to bid on that. Bobby, you stick around. Were going to get this over with next. Plus were going to reveal who im nominating for the challenge, and heres a hint. One of them is sitting in our little Swimming Pool here on the morning joe set with tarp all around it and with our kids around. Amelia is here and ive got kate and jack here as well. Straight ahead on morning joe. Can this decadent, fruit topped pastry. With indulgent streusel crumble, be from. Fiber one. New fiber one streusel. Are you new to medicare . Are you wondering about your choices . With over 30 years of medicare experience, Unitedhealthcare Medicare solutions can help. Call now to learn more about plans available to you. Including aarp medicare plans. 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Carol king, lyle lovett and mika brzezinski. Mika, who are yours . Mine are my brothers mark and ian and bradley cooper. These are all really good ones. Governor jindal, do you have any final words before they get ice baths . I want to thank them for supporting a great cause. I think we should start dunking members of Congress Every time they Say Something stupid on your show. Do you support that . That would be niagara falls, are you kidding me . We should go into the icemaking business. Okay. Are we ready to do this . Okay, give me this. Let me take glasses. Here we go. On the count of three, are you ready . 1, 2, 3. Get em, get em, get em, get em attack attack get em jack. Get em. Get em good. Oh, my goodness. Its absolute mayhem and the crowd goes wild oh, my goodness gracious. That was a good job, jack. Kate, good job. Graham, good job, amelia, good job. Louis, good job with the trash can filled with ice. 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Its time to talk about what i learned today. I learned i have a lot of enemies around here. Miss katherine got wet, as did little jack. Amelia, you enjoyed that far too much. Congratulations on going to college. I did this just for you. Thank you, graham. Graham, thank you so much. Youre welcome. Fantastic. So what did you learn . Youre nervous. My daughter is going off to college next week. We leave tomorrow. Lifting two ice buckets at the same time is heavier than i thought. That was really cruel. I learned that thomas shoes are made out of plastic. Those things are water resistant. I think theyre really duck boots. This is fantastic. I love that. Thank you for pushing me in here. Thomas, you started all of this. Thank you so much, a good cause. That was a violent attack, by the way. I think you two suffered a violent attack. Thats how we roll. But again, all for a good cause. And, you know, i had a guy a mentor in pensacola, a great man who passed away from this terrible, terrible disease. We want to thank everybody. Were going to be making a 10,000 donation on morning joe. Lets get applause for that. Thats fantastic. We thank bobby jindal for dragging us into it. We hope you get dragged into it and take the challenge yourself. We have to cure this disease. Its been with us far too long. Give her a big hug, shes cold. If its way too cold, its morning joe. Of course my hands are cold, sweetie. You dumped 12 buckets of ice on me. Whats wrong with you too . All right. Oh, look at that. It just kept coming. Look at louis. Oh, my lord. Now the daily rundown with luke russert. Chaos in missouri. Another night of protests is met with tear gas and flash grenades. This morning well talk to the man representing Michael Browns family, attorney benjamin crump. Meantime in iraq, the answer to the question of whether more u. S. Troops will be needed to save iraqi refugees gets a little clearer. Well have the latest from erbil. And back here at home, president obama and Hillary Clinton cross paths at a party. Is the space between them getting wider as 2016 gets closer . Good morning from washington, it is thursday, august 14th, 2014. This is the daily rundown. Im luke russert in for the great chuck todd. Well start with morning with stunning developments in ferguson, missouri, where police in riot gear used tear gas again