0 national journal ron fournay. >> why here and here there's nothing nuclear weapon got to talk with god. >> can i color that in for you? >> stop. >> i was at the alabama/lsu game. i got to tell you people down there love you. >> stop. >> i'm serious they love joe scarborough. 200 times on my way from the president's party -- >> the president box. >> you're saying you were with the peep. >> from the tailgate walking over people are nuts about you. they obviously don't know you very well. >> we'll try to cooperate that way. >> talk to anybody between the suv and the suv -- >> you remember we did that walk john there were a few people. >> wow. >> it was a great game. it's alabama -- it's a really special place. that campus and the people there. tons of people go there. you just feel like every time guy there you feel like you're home. >> i feel like the guy running the health care website for the president. >> oh, my lord. >> the leader. watching him on the field run that pre-game stuff with these kids and how he interacts with the kids and coaches. there's a precision an an execution there that's really unmatched. >> leadership, identify always said whether you're talking about running a country or a football team or running a baptist church, you know this. it starts at the top. and it's got to be strong. >> all right. >> entire organizes are turned on a dime. >> i was trying to help your book. >> by a strong leader. >> okay. so we have a lot to talk about this morning. >> like your father. what do you have against strong october. and additional reports say the white house is hoping to boost coverage by looking at individuals who signed up but have not sent in their first payment. tissues with healthercare.gov have prevented tens of thousands love income americans from successfully signing up for medicaid. there are some states that are not allowing that. later today the websites chief digital architect will tell congressional leaders he had no idea initial tests of the website had security flaws that could lead to identity theft. >> ron, you've been covering this up close. it's staggering whether you talk about possibility of identity theft. it doesn't matter what part of it is, it's been botched. there will be books written on this at some point. obviously the blame starts at the top with the president and kathleen sebelius. this looks like a systemic government liberal or like most of america you just want government to work, that's the point. we just want government to work. when our president and leaders say or governor says this is going to happen we have to have some confidence it will work and if it doesn't work they will be honest with us about their failures. neither of those happened in this case. >> willie, i can't believe somebody in the white house isn't saying let's delay this for six months, let's start all over. zero people in oregon, a fairly progressive state have not enrolled. >> that's a major concession and a major loss for the white house to admit that it didn't work. >> and can't be fixed. >> but, ron, you've written about this a lot. the white house and many progressives who defend the white house say come on guys it's about a website. we're talking about something so much bigger which is reforming the american health care system. the website glitches which are much more than glitches at this point will be a bump in the road along the road in history. do you buy that? do you believe we can get big reformation on the system? >> i can't predict the future but i do apply the fact the game is not over yet. this is more of a personal decision than political decision. if americans in another six weeks, six days, six months are able to go on to -- this is more than a website, it's the front door to this, you know, huge social change, if they are able to go there and make reasonable choice and they find they have better health care and/or at a lower cost, this will be a bump in the road and the president will go down in hicstory as somebody who has accomplished something big. if it doesn't work he'll go down in hicht as something other than a great president. >> there's time. there's definitely time to put this in the rear view mirror. it's ug try to watch this. the white house is pushing back by laying partial blame on local and state officials. on the white house blog, the administration points out that as many as 5.4 million americans could gain access to medicaid under obama care but are being denied by elected state officials who refuse to expand the program. researchers at the urban institute also estimate as many as 144,000 veterans below the poverty line are among those being denied. >> i had two people raise their arms -- >> the republicans are doing the same thing. you can watch every glitch. the website didn't work. we got it. >> local officials, though, did a horrible job during katrina. but at the end of the day george w. bush still appropriately bore the responsibility for the failure. >> sure. i don't think anyone is not taking responsibility. >> the white house is not taking responsibility. >> they are pointing out everyone is making you want difficult not just their own botched roll out which they take responsibility for but every step of the way. every step of the way the republicans have tried to undermine this from top to bottom and if anything they probably were part of the problem. >> that's absolutely true which makes it even more important to make the damn thing work. >> that's right. oh, good lord do i want that to happen. >> arguing well, all right, know the federal isn't work but by god because republicans and state aren't letting medicaid happen things are -- >> think about that. >> i always had an attitude when i went into a campaign. my family would be shocked when people run negative ads and lie about me. i said that's not being shocked, guys. like that's a box you walk through a boxing ring and shocked that somebody is trying to take your head off. it's what happens. so the white house can sit back and be shocked at republicans or trying to knock their head off, but it's what democrats did to bush. it's what we did to clinton. it's the nature of the game. you got be smart enough, if you know they are coming to knock your head off you got to be ready and be even smarter. >> i've not heard it said that republicans are the reason that the website is facing the challenges they are facing. if they are that argument should come forward and explain it. and ron said his young daughter signed up for obama care. the program is only to sustain itself if young healthy people pay into the system otherwise the whole premise of the idea false terrifies. we should find more governors to allow them to sign up under medicaid. you create financial stress and put greater stress on the system. you need younger information sign. the focus is stop it right now. under what's gone wrong. whether it takes four months, six months they should do that. limping along serves no real purpose. i was talking to a ceo of a coin you know what? you don't play the same game they are. >> they are not. >> the best way to counter what the republicans are doing would be to come out with a website that works. come out with a program that works the way you promised. be honest with the american people from the beginning. not inflating the numbers they are putting out now and spinning numbers. would be to lead. you're right. the republican party, it's not -- there's no saints here. no saints anywhere in washington. that's problem. where are the adults in the room? >> decisive action is what's needed here. by the way, decisive action is taking down the website. delaying it six months and saying this -- but you know what? we're not interested in the first six months we're interested in the first 60 years. we'll take this back not to use an overused military analogy but i'm going to use an overused military analogy because it's one of the greatest analogies you lose people who thought they might be invested over time. you can shut it down for six months but i agree with mika that's what republicans and some democrats have been asking. >> that would be the victory. >> we told you. >> it's clear we're not ready for primetime. i'm for the program. i want it to work. there may be people "around the table" who want to see this to work. but if it doesn't work there's no need to kid ourselves. let's fix it. the challenge with millennials signing up, many are discouraged i can't sign up fein i go to the site. i was reluctant, skeptical why go forward. i'm willing to take that calculated risk because it's not working now. the president's credibility is online. it makes people question whether he can deliver. >> a new nbc news poll gives insight what a head-to-head match-up of chris christie and hillary clinton would look like in 2016. among adults the former secretary of state would lead new jersey's governor by ten points, 44 to 34. the split is far more stark among african-americans where clinton leads 83-4. christie, however, leads among whites, seniors and high income earners. >> that's new demographic. >> broken down by region. here's a regional breakdown. >> oh, my. >> clinton enjoys double digit leads in the east and northwest and narrow leads in the south and midwest with a wide field of projected candidates christie enjoys less certainty within his own party nearly as many republicans support him as prefer another candidate in the primaries. who? who? i'm just saying. hillary clinton by comparison has 66% support of left leaning adults. today the pro hillary clinton super p.a.c. ready for hilary holds its first national finance meeting. a "new york times" -- the "new york times" calls it a turning point for the young organization. 200 donors and top political from jafs will be on hand looking to boost grassroot efforts and build a digital presence. areas where the 2008 campaign fell short already the group is fundraising on videos like these. ♪ >> the history of progress in america. think of the suffrogates in 1848. those who kept fighting until women could cast their votes. think of the abolitionists who struggled and died to see the end of slavery. if we can blast 50 women into space we will some day launch a woman into the white house. although we weren't able to shatter that highest hardest glass ceiling this time thanks to you it's got about 18 million cracks in it. >> all right. john mecham in >> i hope the clintons turn out to be in the big leagues of politics. they haven't been in this rodeo before so it's a real question of whether or not that fundraising will work well. >> they call this ready for hilary meeting, grassroots thing. this is a serious group of people. >> isn't it clear? >> what politician would like -- >> that's what i was saying. these are big names that run -- one highly involved with president obama's campaign. this is in motion. >> i xerox these things off boup like. yeah. phone banks. yeah. a million dollars. yeah. meet with the churches. give us a million dollars. yes. that's grassroots. east harlem school dinner last night where -- >> she's every where. >> man about town. >> introduced patrick. she sounded, the secretary sounded great. she was strong. you could see her beginning -- i heard sometimes she's now coming in to a form here. so she's going to be tough. coming up on "morning joe" chuck todd has more on today's brand new polling. we'll talk to jennifer granholm. ken burns will be here and hines ward. and we'll be updating throughout morning how you can help in the philippines. we'll put up graphics throughout the show to help the people stranded there, tens of thousands of people. let's get a check on the weather with karen cairns. >> today is one of the days that's good to get to work early especially in the northeast and mid-atlantic. for those of you on i-95 your warmest temperatures have already happened. the temperature in new york city dropped ten degrees in the last hour. we got a good chance of seeing snow here shortly. significant on interstate look at this huge snow pile coming off lake michigan northern indiana, southern michigan. temperatures are very frigid throughout the midwest and the wind chills are making it worse. wind chill in kansas city is 7, buffalo 19. this is what's heading to the east coast, temperatures will plunge quickly. we're also seeing snow all in the white. careful driving in west virginia. there's an area of snow up here. areas of northwestern new jersey and hudson valley. this arctic front is blowing through right now on i-95. temperatures will tumble during the day and look how cold it will be from minneapolis to kansas city to chicago. i mean that's like mid-winter type cold. so bundle up. this is new buffalo, michigan where the snow is flying off the great lakes. it's mid-november. it's kind of on time but seems early. you're watching "morning joe".