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new york city in front of a great, awake. what's wpeoplele? >> have y >> unbelievable. well there's just a little news to report this morning. president obama has won a second term in the white house. >> what? >> this is huge. go ahead.11:15 last night, the ne presid> the 270old.b[ president has electoral college votes toitt romney's 206. flfriends, my mustache-loving friends, this important. florida is the only swing state yet to be called. oh god. he's texting me right now. textingin rightqf now. >> this is what he says. >> if romney loses florida and h carolina. what's he deal's a deal. >> a deal's a deal. >> and do the showts to come in thursday when florida will be innd that's by i do? >> youk awful. that's still out does not bodel for you mustot the panhandle. >> let it be said or the rest of us. >> reckoning. you. come thursday and wll see. >> where do we stand in florida, pretty a slim lead in the sunshine state, but it's considered to be too close to call. is my >> it ents until after was declared the winner of virginia. it was a state h 2008, but with polling race was incredibly >> out president obama took colorado.he also took nevada back poll had deadlocked over the weekend,ly deadlocked, was it >> >> the romneke an 11h there. obama was declared the winner fairly early in the ni one battleground state mitt rom north carolina a state that tk in conventions this summer. l) but this morning the president's also pulling ah important for the people would say for the president's pulling ahead in the popular . currently leading nationwide 50%-48%. >> aside from the rac white house, getin this. control for were s favor. we're going over all of those a little later. democrats now hold 51 senateblicans' 45 with north dakota stillnow, youemember -- first ol, many peoe that's great. all ri i'm hoping several because if not, you are a drunk that stumbled in off the street! >> you've been paid a lot of money to be here. money to be here watch our show and willie geist will tell you, what have i bee the white house, not that t. >> eally cares? if we can only keep john boehne >> you we did it! >> taná-ningacross the country. >> let me tell you somete boehner. republican republicans did keep control of the house, my friends. essentially leaving th politicastructr the past two years. >> that actually is the question before we get ce. lot of the same still the les it's status ve got the preside in charge ofobviously, president obama. the house remains in republic and the senate --. by 5, 6/x perints. we republicans know how to win these house races. we have got to we have got to -- and it's ideology. >> got tostead of tryin into a1 who actually supporti.eb ye seals that your conservatismer the past fouryou hated barack the americans spoke. that's not a governing philosophy. you can't beat something wit nothing. republicans have t something and be like mitt romney. i'll tell you who'halperin chris christie is going to get hammered over the next couple of weeks for and are you just going to stare at me? >> no. >> have you been up all stop>> you'll be waiting for a do you have? >> >> look the republi is goin circular firing squad for the foreseeable future. they thought they were devastated after barack obama wontime. be ten years lderness. and bob !(rown won, and th? midterms. they thought, you know what ac enough. they lost a lot of senate the same reason. and now the soulrching and the circular firing squad really commences. chris christie will blame. so will mitt romney. of and win election ugly. ise are going to have to#r deflect eyalso going tond say what kind of party are we going to be? how are we going to compete in forgeties for a minute in statesnq. what aboutfornia? if part ofqwve 45% of the vote much 'rparty about the future. ng chris exactly maybe wh above osacham, this and happened in 1994. look historically, jon. clinton,at wins. two years rejected by a republican revoluti two years republicans won an his landsl were here two years ago. a lot of unhappy democrrs later, they're seen as overreaching and rejected by the american people. >>emocrats hgreater capacity of the modernity. exa the great one. president bush in second well in '06 getting the thumping and finally getting rid of rumsfeld but that was too lateeim a moment franklin t lastevement. >> it isrkable.he as -- i thinkword "soulb= searching," which has alread even in the last eight >> soul searching. >> how about crushed to p >> youknow. reconstructive surg ringork the i heard that. they're on my nose. b thing which is obvious -- what does he do now? >> what doe president do? >> w top, not >> so whatbarnicle what's t thete is obviously to build upon election last night to go to got to go. firstparently the republicans are so rectill living the world tha our principal objective is to defeatc- this president, nothing will continue tof> get done. to recognize t goin#g to be president of the united years. what you've been talking about, though, would happen republican party science, i don't think. if you walk arouthe b many ca fear of the fr youngd of afraid of ts. you've got to be afraid of change. you've got to be afrai many things. and they also think, too many of them, not all of them that talk radio nation and the talk it's not. it's not. it's just not. so they've and the say this is the going to see éo for the next four years. and let's do something for thecountry rather than for our >> a couple numbers. >> mike barnicle.e numbers on that point, joe. c@ the president won 70 7- >> wow. >> if you look at demographics, obviously, you don't have to be a mathematician or a statsome people arehe risrating pulation could be stal votes which republicans have chalked up easily.r atident's entire was t economy. i'm digging us out of the hole.[j f the electorate agreed poll said the economy george w. bush's and only 42% say it was the on that argument at the the day saying i'm us out of >> so george w.o have to like ext eight years. >> before people cut him some slack. >> exactly. he's still getting hammered. hammered! let's go throu >> we first wantpresident obam ro obviously in chicago last night at mormack place, the place went int shortly after:00 eastern when declared t th family in massachusetts, and he spoke well. so both of them. people oft america. i believe that the was founded are the only sure guide to a resurgent renewed greatness. like so many of you, paul a i everything on we have given our all to this campaign. i so wish that i had been able to fulfill your in but t ann and earnestly pray for him and fo thank god bless are the best! thank you so much. >> and whether i earned your and you've mad president.r struggles, i return to the white house more determined and more work there is to dohat liessc >> mk halperins last night towards mitt romney. mitt romney also gracious toward the president. ee >> the president was not just gracious, he was fantastic. i think that was the best he gave. a lot l his 2004 and 2008 speech. a lot of 2 people were asking where was that speech at the where was that guy? he spent the last year after the budget talks fell apart, he spent the last year saying i'm go new mandate by drawing sharp contrast contrast. last night he edahing out. the teastic. he's got to prove to republicans from their point of view that hes it and he's going to foll. thought lots of stuff was grea irregularities of any ance no overtime popular vote winning the electoral college. and that speech a great end to the evening saying even though it's a status putting out his hand to say i'm going to meet with mitt i'm going to go back me elected the first time. fantastic platform to build off.>>uences if they don't work together which i think will help the president and republicans come to the table. >> yeah, no doubt about it, they have to wo prident and the speaker of the house have got to figure out a congress who control congress who under the constitution hold the checkbook. >> right. how to work together. and jon meacham, you know history is littered by win re-electi have failed second terms. presidents that win huge majorities, huge landslides and then collapse. in recent history, lbj in '64, nixon in '72, reagan's second term for the first three years, disastrous with iran-contra. george w. bush's. what does this president do following lessons of the past to make sure that his second term is more effective than his first? >> you're right. the thing worse than losing historically. but i think reagan's a good example. the iran-contra, enormous blot. but he did have some significant foreign policy the '86 tax reform.icularly in those first two took that 49-state mandate. that's thehe got 49states. it's imagine now. in 1984. and managed to push through with that. i t the best second-term presidents are ones who because there's nothing more -- no 2016 yet. >> we did on the tour. >> okay, good, good. all right. >> we're getting there. >> we didn't game it out past the south carolina primary. halperin's got actually a tweet ready. just perish immense amount -- he needs to moveenbush in totally running on something he had never mentioned, by using something he had never mentioned, social security. the one thing i would say -- barnicle's been -- i hate to say this kind of brilliant on this point>> i know, it's >> strange things happen in campaigns. >> yeah. >> about the need for humility in washington to be the the one thing i wish president had said instead of made me a better president, because i've heard you, is i hope you make me a bett >> yeah. >> not that >> well, okay. mincing words words matter. words matter. >> they do. they do. >> humility you've talked about the president, the administration to show more humility over the nexsly, i will say it about my own party. my own party needing to show more hum for someple in modern-day america confuse civility with compromise. you and i can disagree. in fact, we can be on opposite ends of the eyeideologicalum. committee with still be polite with each other and talk it out and figure out a compromise. that's cpromising my va what you i believe. that's not that's actuallyus being constructive and putting t united states of america's best interests against your own political party's best interests. >> yeah, but joe, i mean, you're right. you're absolutely right. go ahead. give it up for joe. >> it's been quite a night. and i'm not exactly looking forward to thursday when comes in with his mustache. >> what you're talking about isn't just something that began with the election of barack there's been a sense within the political system within the campa youors i'd say an 10 to 12 s times during the course of this year. where now it's not just enough to defeat your opponent. you have to demonize your r opponent as well. >> you have to destroy them right. >> and you've built a wall. too many candidates in this country at too many levels of congress on up to the white house, they build a wall between themselves and thed the consultants, and the wall is who pretend to cover these campaigns. >> right. >> but campaigns the way campaigns used to be covered, in terms of the issues that affect real people.o change i a dialogue, a legitimateandidates where they stop demonizing one another. >> all right. before we get to break, we have the senate races to cover real control of the senate last night, end, it wasrats who were able to flip several seats in their favor. in massachusetts, elizabeth warren reclaimed for the democrats, defeating incumbent scott brown. >> she's going to :g on this morning. >> in connecticut -- and in congressman chris murphy actually becomes the senate former wrestling linda mcmahon who poured 42 million more dollars of her own moneypaign. sh4-1. she's now spent $91 million. >> that might have been a bad buy. >> over the past two years, making sure that republicans didn't pick up a single damn seat in connecticut! >> in indiana, democrat joe completed his comeback against richard mourdock, winning that state's race. mourdock never recovered after ifnt by rape it was, quote, something that god intended. >> politics friends, don't say that if you're on the campaign trail. democrats were also able to hold several seats that were considered up for grabs. todd akin's controversial legitimate rape comment, just a little t7joo much for him to overcome in that either! senator claire mccaskill holds on to her seat. in virginia tim kaine pulled former senator george allen. >> and in ohio sherrod brown won a seco term in the senate fending off republican state treasurer joshel. and in wisconsin, mmy baldwin becomes america's first openly gay u.s. senator, defeating tommy thompson. and the key word there, "openly." and in iwlx independent angus king easily won seat. one. >> the most important adverb of the notable pickup for ans was in nebraska where deb fischer flipped ben nelson's seat defeating bob mike really quickly before we go to break. that race was we had heard, near the up. all of these races, barack obama's coattails at those numbers, you look at massachusetts, it wasn't even close tt romney had no coattails. in fact, he had a really detrimental impact on a lot of these candidates >> mitt romney lost in every state he's ever livered edlived. >> that's a bad sign. >> do you think his dog's going today? >> you k who's in charge of the researchpublican senate candidates? >> we thank god. i mean seriou6p overtime keeping- seriously, as majority leader of sharron angle in nevada christine "i am not a o'do a lot of soul searching here friends. >> it's not soul searching. it's more than that. >> everyone sitting at the baccar watching boxing on closed circuit. and instead he's going to be majority leader for a couple more years. >> linda mcmahon she's going to2 million in a dumn new haven and light it fire and just get it over with. >> cut out the man. >> cut out the middle man. >> let's cut out the middle man. >> go ahead. >> can i say one more thing about the senate? >> sure yeah. >> pennsylvania michigan florida, ohio mega states democratic incumbents breezed to re-election in all fouthem. >> oh, my gosh. >> we got all the news in. still ahead on this special post-election edition of "morning joe," the winners of last tim kaine and massachusetts warren will be here. also, nbc's tom columnist eugene robinson. up next mike allen with the post-election "politico playbook." up next andrea mitchell harold ford jr. join the conversation. you're watching "morning joe" un into problems. namemans. which is why at liberty mutuarance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. e atstandard tual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what%k's your policy? 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>> i don't think that's true but i'm going to talk lawyerwyers. but thanink that's supporting. >> i think when axelrod on thursday we ought to try and nego new era of oa bipartisanship has begun -- >> yes. could use your diate. >> i doubt it. w i doubt it very . >> i think we can get something done. work it t do you thi? historic night. hopefully it translates intothat have been talked about this morning, especially a magnanimous tone being struck by both i was most struck by twoxp things one, the hopefully republicans maif you listened to the rhetoric from some in thehe sena which i think surprised many and if you look where the states were picked up montana, it looks more like win that seat. in north it's a positive 'ing forpc the country in many p;ways. hopefully it translates into us getting a deal around the t and sequestration. and i'm hopeful that it sets a immigration to be dealt with which i would republicans with right away. >> michael, let years ago, you were chairman of the republican national >> yep. landslide in recent history. >> yeah. >> nationwide picked up 700 seats across state legislatures.cans946. what happened over the past twoaused this collapse? other thanq] >> well yeah that was part of it, i'm sure. >> yeah. >> no i think part of it was looking back wep of . and what we discovered stopped uwtalking toed communicating values and ideas, accepting people where those two years, joe,ou covered my tenure at the rnc just like everybody else youdidn't haveonversations about vaginal insertions and -- >> right. >> thank god. >> contraceptions.early to be using those words. >> probe. >> pro. >> use the operative word here. >> thank >>state-sanctioned probe. you know what? maybe we should just steer it. point taken. >> point taken. no, but the point was, we were talking about the things that people were concerned about. we got off of that conver and we got into these other areas where people felt threatened by the tone and how wetopped embrac. so i think that was a big part of the breakdown. andthen of course just the overall messaging ec >> didn't connect. andrea. >> there were so many advantages that mitt romney had on the economy going in. i think the jeep ad was a disaster. you have two ceos basically callin but iith michael about the values. you igne the values of mainstream americans. you can't ignore women. and you can't ignore the hispanic and minority communities and speak to them the way they were spoken to by some of these mourdock, akin and that bf the overwhelming tone. >> even by mitt romney. sorry. >>o doubt craig shirley had said and i've quoted him, that november football games are won in august. >> yeah. >> wells case you could even say a november game was won back in the early spring when mitt romney decided that he was going to dart as far right as humanly possible, jim cramer,n immigration immigration. and he tried tgo to the right of rick perry. it may have helped him win votes in the primary in the short run. in the long run, you could see it early last night. the exit polls came in. we heard there were moreng in virginia this time than four years ago. colorado, more this ti four years ago. mitt romney got crushed by the hispanic vote. if he had had the samispanic votes that george w. bush had in 2000 or 2004 he would be president of the united states this morning. see, andrea's so rright. i think romney went mathematic, but remember you could do all kinds of project orca trying to get the last-minute vote, trying to be -- they call it that f heaven's sake. but inend, the arithmetic was we're a8:country. the country doesn't look like when i grew up. i'm 57 and the country that romney appeals to is long gone. it doesn't look like us. go back ronald reagan we always talk about ronald reagan's historic landslide in 1980. mika you do breakdown from 1980 and put that in last night's voting group, and ronald reagan would have lost in a landslide. it is a new republican party. this is something that george w. bus

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