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Klobuchar, tom steyer. And second, the president takes a victory lap. Vindman and his twin brother out at the white house. And the Senate Begins investigating the bidens. Were beginning with breaking news out of iowa. Nearly a full week after the Iowa Caucuses the states D Democratic Party has released more results as well as the number of delegates its awarding to each candidate. Pete buttigieg 14, Elizabeth Warren 8, joe biden six and Amy Klobuchar, one. The magic number 1,1091. We want to point out that the decision desk will not be projecting a winner. This is according to the states Democratic Party. Joining me now in New Hampshire where the candidates have all but moved on, former Obama Campaign manager, political analyst, chief Public Affairs officer for move on. Org and also the author of moving forward. And National Political reporters for the Washington Post. And nbc news Political Editor carry dan. You are, a, i dont want to say an iowa native but youve certainly live there had long enough to get street cred. Were trying to understand what caused the partedy to release these results now. What do we know about the state of that race . Reporter this is after days of confusion and frustration from the campaigns that were trying to project what was going to happen in this race. The campaigns have been almost entirely moved on. Both Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders claimed victory before they got to New Hampshire. And what we found today and again as you noted nbc news is not making a projection in this race. This comes after they reviewed 95 caucuses at the request of campaigns where there were said to be found to be diskremancies in the data. 55 of the 95 were found to need adjustment because the data didnt match up to the original results on the ground. They say thats just 3 of the overall precincts but it has been a laung and arduous process. Early last week they released new data that showed delegates being awarded to patrick, who did not campaign in iowa. So, that was immediately a red flag. And so these results are out now. We do have a final number of National Delegates as you noted with Pete Buttigieg beating out Bernie Sanders by two delegates. Thats the margin pete originally said he was going to be the winner. And sanders says i had more in the raw vote and hes declared him sthfl winner as well. Wow. Thank you very much for a great breakdown of what has turned into pretty unbelievably thorny situation out in iowa. Thank you. David, you of courses, were on the ground for obamas Historic Campaign in the iowa caucus. I think im just struck yes, we have a winner. But to a certain extent feels it doesnt matter which is strange considering how much energy and resources these campaigns put in on the ground in iowa. Do you think the caucus as we know it is done and over with . Certainly. Barack obama was twoterm president in part because he dominated caucuses and there water lot more in 2008. A lot less now. My guess is innext time, whether we have 24, if we dont beat trump, 28 if we do, well have none. But its mattered more than i thought it would. Because iowa has never been about delegates, New Hampshire has never been about delegates. South carolina begins to be about delegates and youre seeing mayor pete getting a lot of momentum and bernie maintaining strength and people like biden and klobuchar fighting for their lives. Mayor pete would have liked the full balloons coming down. He lost out on that. We see the New Hampshire polls and so and my guess is if bernie were to win by 10 or 15, hes going to net more delegates. In 2008 we both got nine. And until that very point the stakes in New Hampshire feel higher than ever. The latest boston globe tracking poll shows Bernie Sanders with just a twopoint lead over Pete Buttigieg. Elizabeth warren is in third and joe biden sits back in fourth as he continues to bleed support. And as the Los Angeles Times puts it, biden has aify, actually many, things on his mind as he stairs down the possibility of a fourth place finish in New Hampshire after a fourth place finish in iowa. Clearly one of those things is Pete Buttigieg, not just finishing in the polls but bringing outbug numbers. This guys not a barack obama. Barack obama had been a senator for a very large state. The new blood we had is clinton and we came up with guy named obama. But guess what . They had overwhelming support from the africanamerican community. You cant win without that. Flat out. Are you basically saying mayor buttigieg has a race problem . No, im saying hes not been able to unify the black community. The most Senior Member of the city counsel endorsed me. So, of course thats not buttigiegs crowds but joe biden underscoring their campaigns frustration in these final days before New Hampshire. As buttigieg is trying to fend off those attacks, he has also engaged in an escalating back and forth with the candidate who won the state by more than 20 points in 2016. Thats Bernie Sanders. Unlike some of the folks up here, i dont have 40 billionaires, pete, contributing to my campaign. The idea you have to be for a revolution or the status quo leaves most of us out. Billionaires by the dozens are contributing to the Buttigieg Campaign. Politics says its my way or the highway. Are you talking about senator sanders . K yes, because weve got to bring as many people as we can into this process. So, youve covered a lot of campaigns here in New Hampshire for, at one point for the boston globe as well. You know the area well. The cruseble that is the final days in New Hampshire. Pete buttigieg pressure from both sides show he is on the rise and potentially has the most to gain and lose. And its important to see who candidates are talking about and who theyre not. And Pete Buttigieg is being talked about by Bernie Sanders and joe biden. Theyre both after him. And i think you saw in the polling numbers this race has become two campaigns in a way. Its a fight between Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders at the top. But theres a vigorous fight for third place with warren and biden and klobuchar. As you mentioned the state can swing very quickly. And it seems to be swinging with klobuchar having a lot of momentum. And theres a lot of nerves that he could get a fourth or fifth place finish which would be a huge hit to the campaign. Is that what matters for biden . Making sure hes not any worse than third . I think so. The thing i saw was klobuchar at nine and biden at ten. He cannot afford to not go down to fourth or fifth. That would be a really big blow to his campaign. And you got to remember theyre bleeding in these early states. This state is crucial to many of them. You think about Bernie Sanders. Hell stay to the end. He has a lot of money. I want to touch on what david said. This is the narrative race right now. Do you have the message . Do you have the momentum to take it to all the way to super tuesday, which is march 3rd, once youre done with the more diverse states . And of course the argument for the Biden Campaign has been wait, hold on, lets get to South Carolina. I was on the trail with joe biden yesterday and he had a long and free wheeling exchange with the press. I asked about some of the attacks going back and forth among the democratic field right now. Youve always said democrats shoulde shouldnt have a circular firing squad . I havent responded at all. I kept my mouth shut a long time. But its been a constant assertion that the problems today are somehow because of our administration. Thats simply not true. And so we want to compare records, its easy to do. I get it. And hes a good guy, a great mayor. But guess what . He was a mayor. I mean, jenna johnson, the reality is if you are in a good, comfortable places you dont need to make that kind of an attack three or four day busines before the primary. Exactly. This is not how he wanted to run the race but what hes been pushed to do. One of the things so striking in iowa is how poorly joe biden did there. Year hearing from precincts that voted twice for obama and once for trump, places biden said he could win. The whole reason he says he could win this is because he could win back those voters and go after former republicans, independents, people in the middle, people who want to get back to the way things were. And he wasnt winning there. And everything hes been laying out that challenge. He couldnt be labels the clear loser the night of. The same main character, you guessed it. Barack obama. And mocking the experience of Pete Buttigieg. So, i have many thoughts, several of which id like the discuss. To start with this feels small to me. From someone whos supposed to be part of the big, sweeping administration. I thought mayor petes response to the ad was very strong. Which is we could use washington to be a little more like a small town. Basically working and functioning for people. Obama is the most popular figure in the Democratic Party. Almost 100 Approval Rating among africanAmerican Voters. The race has always been to me what would it take for joe biden to not win South Carolina . And hes going to test that proposition if he comes three here. Four in iowa, four five how did he become so much less plausible. I cant overstate for you how differently this campaign will feel. You leave on a saturday night at the end of february and i think theyre paying enough attention to the california primary where Bernie Sanders has the possibility to get 30, 40 and a large percentage. 15, 16 i dont think its enough to win South Carolina. Hes got to exit with enough velocity to be the top contender. If you look at the top four Democratic Candidates, kennedy, carter, clinton, obama, they all faced the attacks that they didnt have the experience. But we have always had success with a fresh face. So, i would be much more than republicans, democrats seem willing to bet on somebody new, different, inexperienced in the minds of some. And our veterans seem to lose. From an electability standpoint the most important part of the primary was when ted kennedy endorsed barack obama and read the things they said about not being ready and said they said the same things about my brother, john f kennedy. That was striking, indeed. The other face looming over the election, trump. Now acquitted. Hes beefing up support with black and suburban voters and, yes, even trying to win in New Hampshire. And the democrats are just trying to makeup for lost time. Lets bring in shaquille brewster. This is a week that, months from now, i think were likely to be seen as a turning point. Im curious is it going to end up being a blip . Thats a good question and remember a couple of mung months ago they thought it could be a benefit to trump and only served as a distraction and they were concerned about how it reshaped the entire race. Now theyre starting to figure out how. For Democratic Candidates the stakes are only getting higher. Double what you have or anybody else. Wait a second, bernie, lets not argue about polls. Reporter their eventual rival only looking stronger. It was a bruising fwreweek for democrats, the first blow coming monday. The Iowa Caucuses turning into days of confusion. Reporting errors, calls for recanvassing and no clear winner. We had a victorious night that shocked the public. Reporter it essentially was a tie. No, it wasnt a tie. There was not an historic tie but we won. Reporter tuesday trumps approval reaches a best. Amid a four more years in the state of the Union President donald john trump, president of the United States, is not guilty as charged. I never thought a word would sound so good. Its called total acquittal. Reporter a president defiant and the Democratic Party divided. Tom, bernie, amy and elizabeth. Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, and joe biden. Reporter and that New Hampshire is frozen over, the tone is becoming icier. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Weve already seen what donald trump is going to do with that. Im skeptical of the idea that its eeth arrevolution or youre from the status quo. Pete buttigieg has more exclusive donors from billionaires. Reporter and the president will look to cast his shadow with a rally in New Hampshire tomorrow night. They couldnt even take a simple tabulation and yet theyre telling you how to run the country and how to run health care. Reporter voters focus on beating trump but divided on how. My top priority is anybody. Reporter are you confident the candidates in the field right now can beat trump . No. Reporter are you confident the candidates can beat trump . I i really hope so. Reporter and you see barbara shaking her head no as she answered the last question. Many are simply traumatized with whats happened in 2016. Theyre looking at this race and dont know which candidate will be the best person to take him on. And as always both voters pretty remarkable. Very quick final thought on what you saw from the folks talking to shaq. Thats the question all of us are looking at is there anyone . And perhaps its Mike Bloomberg waiting in the wings. I dont know. A shrug almost. I dont know if we have that in the production line but ill work on it. As i talk to voters, they feel like their decision is bigger than them voting in a primary. The field is so crowded. We didnt get enough clarity out of iowa. I talk to a lot of people weighing not just what they want but what they think other voters in other states are going to want. And were left with the muddle. Were going to have so much more to come tonight on kasie d. C. In the white house revenge is a dish best served freak wnltly. And buttigieg has the biggest cycle. And i talked to Amy Klobuchar pulling in more than 2 million in fund raising. Youre watching kasie d. C. Youre watching kasie d. C. Give me your hand i can save you. Lots of money with Liberty Mutual we customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. So chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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Road warrior, von hillyard has been following the Buttigieg Campaign on the ground. He joins me live from london dairy. Great work out there. Clearly a campaign on the assent, unlike, of course, the joe Biden Campaign. Buttigieg is, i think, behind you taking the stage. So, what have you got for us . I think you jumped in during high hopes. And yes, the former south bend mayor just took the stage. This is his fifth event of the day. Youve been to Pete Buttigieg events. Theres a Different Energy over the course of the last week not felt over the last year. When we were talking to voters, there was this concept of voting for Pete Buttigieg and this idea of the 25 different

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