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(whistling) all with millions of secure wifi hotspots congress, witness tampering and and the best lte everywhere else. obstruction of justice. and while the news came just it's a different kind of wireless network, after the president complained designed to save you money. of stone's recommended switch and save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill. punishment, a doj spokesperson and save even more when you say "bring my own phone" said it did not into your voice remote. justice, close quote. that's simple, easy, awesome. click, call or visit a store today. now the president is praising his attorney general for, quote, taking charge, close quote, saying the mueller scam was improperly brought and tainted. he argued without offering evidence that bob mueller lied (whistling) to congress, without offering evidence. then he went off in front of the president of ecuador. >> they treated roger stone very thouwhich is breast cancer metastthat has spreadcer, to other parts of the body, badly. they treated everyone very are living in the moment and taking ibrance. badly. the mueller investigation was a scam. it was illegally set up. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor it's a disgrace. frankly, they ought to apologize is for postmenopausal women to a lot of the people whose lives they ruined. i want to thank the justice department for seeing this horrible thing -- i didn't speak to them, by the way, just so you republicans have said they understand. hoped you would learn a lesson they saw the horribleness of a from impeachment. nine-year sentence for doing what lesson did you learn from nothing. impeachment? >> that the democrats are you have murderers and drug addicts that don't get nine crooked, they've got a lot of years for doing something that crooked things going, that nobody can even define what he they're vicious, that they did. >> the doj's intervention to shouldn't have brought product a trump ally, once impeachment and that my poll numbers are ten points higher. >> welcome back to "hardball." again, is raising questions of course, that was president about the trump's department of trump telling nbc's peter alexander that the lesson he justice, four prosecutors learned from impeachment is that democrats are crooked. from the removal of impeachment abruptly withdrew from the case abruptly yesterday. the judge will soon decide the witness alexander vendman to length of stone's sentence. a former senior national firing gordon sondland to security official at the doj. praising his attorney general's betsy woodruff swan and david involvement in reducing roger frum, former speechwrite r for stone's sentence, he feels imto president george w. bush. david loughlin, thank you. act with impunity now. what does this say about the whole entanglement between the with no need to worry about president and secretary barr and congress now that he has been acquitted of two articles of letting out the word that impeachment, the president this -- it looks like his buddy, showed a renewed willingness to act, even if it prompts fresh roger stone, will get a lighter complaints about violating sentence. >> it looks like the attorney general of the united states has traditional norms. now become a minion of the as a senior administration official told "the daily beast" president and carrying out the he feels like the chains are president's political grievances, bringing undue off, the gloves are off and everything that used to be hush influence to bear on carrying out rule of law, day-to-day hush are now just out in the open. joined by congressman eric litigation decisions by career prosecutors at the department of justice which, to my knowledge, swalwell, house intelligence and is unheard of in the history of judiciary committees and robert costa, national political the department. >> justice department, reporter for "the washington especially the attorney general, post." was well aware of the congressman, can he do anything he wants? because he's acting like it. president's prejudice. if anything, he wanted this guy >> nope. he sure can't, chris. sprung. >> he tweeted multiple times we impeached him because he what he thought about the roger tried to do that the day he thought he was getting off the stone case and the notion that hook for the mueller report and this particular tweet yesterday didn't have a cause and effect will be impeached forever. on the decisions made to rescind today we had an emergency the first filing and replace it judiciary committee hearing called by chairman nadler, lay with a watered-down version of that is ludicrous. >> how far could a president go? ing out what we're going to do that's a stupid question to ask to hold the department of justice and the president right now in this presidency. accountable. he can t. in 1970, a long time but, you know, this guy, roger ago but a president then, richard nixon, basically stone, whatever he did, wasn't out robbing gas stations. declared charles smoon guilty while he was still in trial. he was helping the president. a lot of what he does is to that's the most infamous case of cover up for the president. does that make it particularly a president simply saying i'll tell everybody who is guilty and wrong for the president -- it's who is innocent. now he's out there saying the so ridiculous we're talking guy who was his henchman and his about this. is it particularly wrong for the adviser all these years, he president to intervene in the simply declares he deserves a case that he was one of his lighter sentence. >> what's so trab troubling henchman? >> it makes the whole debacle about that -- boy, we would be even shabbier, doesn't it? lucky if we had richard nixon whether he gave an order to and statements like that, that was about ten exits ago for this attorney barr or attorney barr president. the president could pardon roger is channeling his inner president trump, the outcome has stone. that would be wrong. the same, tarred the department he could pardon michael flynn. that would be wrong, too. instead he has chosen to show of justice, caused enormous that he can have others carry out his hits for him. distress on career officials at and by doing that, he's the department and it has injecting a virus of corruption into the department of justice, undermined public confidence in which is supposed to be independent. my hope, chris, is that the department. >> pardon the fact that roger honorable prosecutors will step stone, no matter what you think forward and say this is not of him, has clammed up and kept right and stop that from the secrets on behalf of the happening. >> let me go to robert on this, robert costa. president. seems to me the president is not th a sneaky guy when it comes to this, by the way, comes after attorney barr removed the u.s. attorney supervising the roger this kind of stuff. stone case late last month. he's quite open. matter of fact, it's not president trump rescinded her nomination to the treasury perfectly clear at all that he department, effectively firing ordered this direction by the her. nbc reports this is among attorney general to say give this guy a lighter sentence but several recent moves by attorney he wanted it to look like that. why would he want it to look general barr to personal like he was tampering with justice? >> based on my reporting, just filed the story with phil rucker trump's former national security for tomorrow's paper. adviser michael flynn. after the impeachment process is he just keeps doing this. over, the acquittal and senate >> there is a pattern here, trial, he feels like he can right? it's not unusual that in these consume the executive branch. two cases that mean something he does not feel bound by any limit to executive power and particularly to this president, he's testing those limits with sentencing positions the how he's handling the department government has carefully thought of justice and the attorney general. >> well, meanwhile, the house through are now facing decisions judiciary committee announced that water them down. today that attorney general barr has agreed to testify before the until a life tenured u.s. committee on march 31st, not too district court judge holds a far off. hearing where he or she has the in a letter addressed to barr today the committee wrote we ability to ask pointed wish to be candidate about one questions. >> that's coming. >> it may be. of senate's concerns we that will be the best forum to addressed at the hearing. as an attorney general, you have engaged in a pattern of conduct illuminate what happened here. i don't expect the attorney and legal matters relating to general to illuminate that when the president that raises he comes before congress. significant concerns for this committee. the letter notes that in the >> the judge can call in the prosecutors and say why did you past week alone, you've taken change your guidelines of seven to nine years to, say, four or steps that raise grave questions about your leadership, including removal of the prosecutor who five? >> right. there will be a sentencing hearing. she could call a hearing before oversaw roger stone's then, just to basically say what the hell happened here? prosecution, the process by which rudy giuliani is able to what sentencing position is the feed the department of justice position of the government? information about trump's why did the position change? political rivals and reduction and she could ask uncomfortable of roger stone's recommended sentence. questions of the prosecutor who what do you think he will get? is haplessly standing there in he has agreed to testify. front of her that day about what these questions are serious. i just wonder how in the world happened, who had input into that decision, what were the he's going to answer these factors that led to the revised questions without looking worse. >> well, he will be under oath sentencing position? >> can she ask was there any for the first time before our hanky panky here, any influence committee. he has been held in contempt from above? >> of course, the people who are before for not working with our going to be appearing before her committee. what we want to make sure that then are not the people who experienced that firsthand. the important pillar of they've all withdrawn from the independence of prosecution case, or in one case resigned still stands at the department of justice. from the department of justice that's why we're calling him in. all together. >> betsy and then david, david we're not waiting till march to do our job on this. frum, it seems to me that trump we are acting immediately to likes doing this in public. hold the department accountable in the coming days and weeks, i even though maybe the actions had already been taken to think you'll see from the committee what we can do to make lighten or begin to lighten the sentence, he wanted everybody to sure that this president is not using the department as his know that's what he wanted done. >> trump is not big on subtly. personal attorney but that the department acting as america's when he goes after people who he attorney. >> not the same situation in the sees as enemies of his ability senate, chris i just got off the phone with senator susan collins to exert power as president, he for maine. she said she will not push for doesn't do it -- he often doesn't do it in underhanded or hearings. other republicans said they will not push for hearings. secretive ways. a different outlook in the upper chamber. >> what do you think that's what we've seen over the last six months and, actually, since he was first inaugurated, are effort after effort after effort abo very publicly to go after career about, the fact that this looks so -- well, fishy, that the president would be intervening civil servants who he sees as himself in a case to help out one of his people, roger stone, a close aide to him, if not his being trying to undermine him. henchman, and to be seen so david made one point i would publicly tampering with justice, why would the senate let that like to highlight, that i think go? >> in short talking to a is really important. you talk about the doj history and whether what happened with congressional aide on background those prosecutors and their recommendation being overturned tonight, they're saying these has ever happened before. kinds of episodes and kind of yesterday, a senior doj official behavior and conduct with donald spoke to defend the decision trump is quote, like bad that doj made in this case. weather. it happens all the time. when that official spoke on they'll not overreact this time background, i pressed them. or any other period. i said, can you share any they're locked into the election example of this happening before? campaign season and he has all can you share any example of doj the politic al in their view. headquarters main justice >> including the accusation that overturning decisions of line prosecutors to reduce a mueller lied to congress. sentence? and the official, even after i what is that about? i've never heard anybody say pressed them multiple times, something like that about wouldn't name a single example. mueller. >> bob mueller did that donald >> trump has done everyone here trump has not done? he came to congress. an enormous, enormous favor by he testified under oath. acting so blatantly or by bob we can't say that about donald trump and all the witnesses he has ordered not to come forward. barr -- bill barr, acting so so, right now, raising your blatantly or his henchman now right hand and testifying beats the acting u.s. attorney because there isn't a senate-confirmed doing nothing. >> meanwhile, the president has one. made his campaign of retribution by doing this, they've kast as public as possible. light on the cases where people "the new york times" reported last week that ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, are paying less attention to. was already talking with senior the head of blackwater, he has sentencing decisions to make, officials about leaving, but mr. trump evidently was not whether there's decisions to interested in a quiet departure for him, choosing instead to proceed with the rudy giuliani make a pont by forcing mr. matter. sondland out forcibly. suddenly it's a pattern. suddenly, everybody knows. robert, this does sort of go back we have this usual pattern where trump people say the president had some semi normal, semi it seems it's almost the lawful reason and the president dramatic effect he wants. >> you tie together the roger then goes on twitter and says stone situation with the sorry, just in case the videotape evidence was blurry, dismissal, the removal of i'm going to put fingerprints all over the crime scene so you lieutenant colonel vindman and his brother from the national all know i did this thing. >> i'm the president. security council and >> i, the president, in order to administration, repositioned to other post posts in the protect someone who knows a lot administration. the president as you know bound, about my relationship with based in my conversations today with top republicans. wikileaks and, therefore, the russians, i, the president, am they feel like he is not going going to intervene in this case to stop and at this point they're just trying to see, is and that may remind you i'm it disruptive to the point that it leads to another house intervening in other cases that investigation? does it prompt more hearings? get less attention and may at this point they feel like deserve it. >> colonial experiences to he's within the bounds of modern governments, do they have executive power and they're trying to walk him back a little an independent judiciary, or is bit. as we saw over the weekend, a it something where somebody in few senators called the white political power can literally house and the president still proceeded in the way he wanted to. >> thank you, robert. kill somebody or have them executed or put away forever or just totally man handle the let me the congressman one other legal system? trump is acting like a third question. it's a weird story but devin world dictator here. >> the irony of this whole situation is that the dynamics nunes, your ranking we're seeing play out with the republican -- >> always -- justice department very much >> what? recall the situation in ukraine, south bend, indiana, what was he and we know that two senior doing in south bend, indiana, trump diplomats at one point spoke with senior ukrainian one of the top candidates for president in the democratic officials and told them, hey, party? >> i hope he was not rifling you guys shouldn't open a through mayor pete's high school criminal investigation of your boss' political rival and ukrainian officials literally yearbooks although we have every responded by saying how do you reason to believe, knowing him, have a moral leg to stand on when your own president is he was. he's irrelevant. interfering with your -- to robert's last point although >> excuse me, when asked about a pardon for roger stone, here what the president said. donald trump was not removed from office because lieutenant >> are you considering a pardon? colonel vindman and dr. fiona hill stood up to him, we're >> i don't want to say that yet actually able to get ukraine the but i'll tell you what, people aid. were hurt viciously and badly by if prosecutors are willing to these corrupt people. come forward, stand up, we may >> so, we're going to see if he be able to stop the corruption that the president is injecting gets re-elected or doesn't get re-elected, sort of holiday period, late december, early there. >> are you going to try to impeach him again? january, when presidents get pretty frisky in this stuff, he we don't wake up every morning apology, is he going to run down the list and let them all out? thinking that but if he's going >> it certainly looks so. he has not been so up in arms to torch this democracyware about paul manafort. going to bring a fire hose. buttigieg is snapping at why is he so much more sanders' heels with amy protective of stone than of klobuchar surging. maniafort? it's still very early. stone knows things. >> yeah. you have to wonder, are biden >> that manafort does not know. and warren still in the race? you're watching "hardball." i wanted my hepatitis c gone. one thing to say about this in a way -- the comfort and the warning. united states has still a very independent judicial system, a federal judge, although they're increasingly biased, ideological and less competent than they were two years ago, it's still an independent judiciary. the prosecution service has always been vulnerable to politicization. that's been a fault in the american system. >> because the executive branch, they're the executive. >> there's no other developed country on earth where prosecutors work for the political authorities. only in this one. but that has not too badly been abused in recent times but in the trump era, it's always been i put off treating mine. a weapon on the counter and that weapon has been picked up. >> let's talk about the judge in epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. this case. how is she likely to react to whatever your type, epclusa could be your kind of cure. everything we're talking about here next week when she sentences? >> she's in a tough spot. i just found out about mine. the argument that roger stone's i knew for years lawyers make involving one epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. technical aspect of this sentencing memo, they argue that i had no symptoms of hepatitis c a threat that prosecutors say that roger stone wasn't a mine caused liver damage. epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken serious threat, that it was basically these two guys kind of with or without food for 12 weeks. going back and forth and was not before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you meant to be serious. that's the argument they make. have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, and could >> backs that up. >> there's an argument that cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. serious people can make that the judge will take seriously. tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, other liver or... and before yesterday happened it's possible the judge would have sided with being more ...kidney problems, hiv, or other medical conditions... lenient and would have sided with that argue. now that trump has tweeted about ...and all medicines you take, including herbal supplements. it, the whole ball game has changed, because if she takes taking amiodarone with epclusa may the side of more leniency -- cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. this is something she knows. common side effects include headache and tiredness. if she takes the side of more leniency, she creates the ask your doctor today, if epclusa is your kind of cure. perception that trump can tweet at judges what to do and she knows that will undermine public confidence in independent jaushry. trump and doj have put her between a rock and a hard place and the sentencing next week has the potential to be extremely interesting. one other point, david will know this more than i do. i believe the judge has the ability to reject the withdrawa and i like to question your i'm yoevery move.n law. like this left turn. it's the next one. you always drive this slow? 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[tina] you're an old lady. othroughout the country for the past twelve years, mr. michael bloomberg is here. vo: leadership in action. mayor bloomberg and president obama worked together in the fight for gun safety laws, to improve education, and to develop innovative ways to help teens gain the skills needed to find good jobs. obama: at a time when washington is divided in old ideological battles he shows us what can be achieved when we bring people together to seek pragmatic solutions. bloomberg: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. let me say tonight that this victory here is the beginning of the end for donald trump. >> thanks to you, a campaign that some said shouldn't be here at all has shown that we are here to stay. >> hello, america. i'm amy klobuchar and i will beat donald trump. >> welcome back to "hardball." those were the top three finishers in new hampshire's primary, in order, actually. bernie sanders emerged as the narrow winner of an increasingly fractured party, where three candidates earned what we call tickets out of new hampshire. pete buttigieg was right on sanders' heels, minnesota senator amy klobuchar scored a surprisingly third place finish, follow bid elizabeth warren, and follow bid her, former vice president joe biden in fifth place. that must have hurt. with his win in new hampshire, sanders has control of the party. buttigieg, klobuchar and biden split the moderate vote, overwhelming that of sander who got 26%, one of the smallest and narrowest margins for victory in the democratic new neck and nec with buttigieg in the delegate count. sanders says he has what it takes to win the nomination. >> do you feel like the front-runner? >> we won the popular vote in iowa. we won the popular vote in new hampshire. here is a prediction. we'll do very well in nevada, south carolina and in california on super tuesday. so, we think we have put together the coalition that we need in order to win the democratic nomination and defeat donald trump. >> washington bureau chief for usa today and lillian adams, former communications director for kamala harris' campaign. thank you, littllian, thank you susan. is he the front-runner now, bernie sanders? >> he's not the over whechling oh, my god, he's the front-runner but makes a fair point. in good shape in nevada, should be a strong candidate in california. but with proportional representation in the democratic contest, winning 25 or 35% of the vote does not get you to the majority of delegate. >> i thought elizabeth warren was going to do this. i can only make my predictions based on what's going on. she looked very strong last fall. i thought she would whiz right through this, win the first two, like bernie has, and go on to win the nom nation. i'm not sure that bernie has that same breadth of appeal. i was thinking elizabeth was better in the center than bernie. your thoughts? >> he is not the prohibitive front-runner but is the front-runner. he has an infrastructure across the country that will kick in on super tuesday and small base of donors that will continue to fund his campaign in good times and bad that honestly no one else right now can compete with. you're right, you did see some signs of danger in the new hampshire result for him, which is, is there a ceiling for him? is there only so high he he can go? >> pat buick an rung against bob dole got 27. he won clearly, but he won not far beyond his basic core that he went in with. in fact, he went in with 60% and wound up with 26 or so. >> if politics is about addition, where does bernie sanders find that addition and who are those sort of voters? >> let's talk about the new stars on the block, people we didn't think very much about presidential candidates months ago, buttigieg. he would have won if he had put juice in the friday night debate. why did he hesitate? >> value of experience of having gone around the track once before for bernie sanders. think about pete buttigieg as bernie sanders and joe biden keep point iing out, his highes office has been -- >> politically, why can't he close the deal? >> i think he probably thought he was doing pretty well and didn't want to endanger it. and that is not the thing successful candidates do. they continue to push and push and push the way you saw amy klobuchar. >> she was audacious. she said great stuff about mitt romney. nobody else had the nerve to say it. this guy was a hero for a while. problem as a label? of course it is. she said on saturday i couldn't believe why they didn't say anything. they sat there like meek mice. there is something to be said about that issue. >> we've seen mayor buttigieg be successful in debates. that's one of the reasons he has gotten as far as he has. i would expect he will find ways to be aggressive and maybe learned lessons from that debate. there will be another one and then we have nevada and another one after that. there are plenty of opportunities, i think. we're so quick to want to nar ought field. less than 100 delegates have been awarded. we're about to see 30% of the delegates get awarded in march if not more. there's a long way to go. >> so you're one of those people now? >> i am. >> let not make a joke. let's not get excited here. >> you have two diverse states coming up that are critical to the party. >> who is going to win nevada? >> i don't know. i think it's anybody's guess. >> anybody's guess? >> yeah. >> my guess is sanders. >> i think sanders certainly has the best chance. >> depends how the -- >> culinary, the most powerful political force besides harry reid or along with harry reid has been criticizing sanders and his health care plan. will that manifest itself in a hit for him? >> hard to say for the working man and woman, if the working man and woman are against you. the other thing i like about vegas, i don't drink, i don't gamble or the other stuff they do out there. it's one state where you get to meet union members all the time. which is good for the labor movement. fifth place finish joe biden left new hampshire before the polls even closed yesterday. he said that the country needs to hear from diverse voters before counting him out. >> we just heard from the first two of the 50 states. two of them. not all the nation. not half the nation. not a quarter of the nation. not 10%. two. two. where i come from, that's the opening bell. not the closing bell. >> well, elizabeth warren also sought to temper expectations last night. here she goes. >> we might be headed for another one of those long primary fights that lasts for months. the question for us democrats is whether it will be a long, bitter rehash of the same old divides in our party or whether we can find another way. >> the first four early states, there they are, iowa, new hampshire behind us, nevada, south carolina to come, make up only 4% of the delegates toward the nomination. on super tuesday, however, that's march 3rd, not too far off, 14 states vote. 34% of delegates are to be awarded that. i have to stop with her for a second. what happened to her? she was the hardest working, she had a plan for everything. she did everything you're supposed to do. she was everywhere, working really, tremendous -- she took a selfie with every human being that got near her and it didn't work in a state right next to massachusetts. >> you're right. it didn't work in a state like new hampshire. i think that's why she's got to go all in on nevada to try to get a shot in the arm that can boost her up before super tuesday. >> lot of women workers out there. >> a lot of people on her campaign that have strong ties to nevada, who have worked for harry reid who know that state well. >> who is harry reid for? >> i don't know. i think he has been staying out. >> i think we'll find out soon. >> the lowest showing for any new england candidate in the new hampshire primary except for joe lieberman. if not in massachusetts, get your point, hard worker, a lot of appeal. we were surprised how strong she seemed but it really looks to me like sanders is consolidating kind of that side of the democratic party. >> i think that's true. let me ask you about biden. is he gone? >> i think he is on his way out the door. you know, maybe he will do well in south carolina. >> you covered him three times? >> the third presidential bid by joe biden i've covered. all of them have been short. and i think it was a surprise to his backers that he ended up in fifth place in single digits in the new hampshire primary. >> do you think it was smart of him to skip every sunday show for the entire year? >> no. >> why did he do that? >> buttigieg, what did he do? talked to anybody who wanted to talk to him any time. that was a big strength. >> i agree. take the risks, show yourself, or get out of the business. thank you. i'm sure you'll find another horseback in this business or else you'll be on television. >> waiting in the wings, michael bloomberg looks well positioned now to swoop in if no none of the other moderate democrats can gain traction. can his campaign overcome concerns, like his issue with stop and frisk? that will be a problem for him. you're watching "hardball." u're. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test... ...if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant,... ...other liver problems, hiv-1, or other medical conditions,... ...and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir... ...or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems. if you've had or have serious liver problems other than hep c, there's a rare chance they may worsen. signs of serious liver problems may include yellowing of the skin, abdominal pain or swelling, confusion, and unexplained bleeding or bruising. tell your doctor if you develop symptoms of liver disease. common side effects include headache and tiredness. with hep c behind me, i feel free... ...fearless... ...because i am cured. talk to your doctor about mavyret. to put on our website? 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i mean, bring the country together. back to "hardball." that was president trump. yesterday, reacting to former mayor michael bloomberg's apology for his past comments on new york city's stop and frisk policy. it came hours after the president tweeted that michael bloomberg is a total racist. the president must have forgotten that he, too, supported this stop and frisk policy. here he goes. >> we have to bring back law and order. now whether or not in a place like chicago you do stop and frisk, which worked very well, mayor giuliani is here, worked very well in new york t brought the crime rate way down. >> it's a form of racial profiling is the argument. >> no. the argument is that we have to take the guns away from these people and who are bad people that shouldn't have them. >> the response to the president's now deleted tweet, bloomberg's campaign manager told nbc news, when you threaten trump, you become a target. was all new yorkers, but he also knows you don't back down from a bully and we're in a war to remove him from office. this morning three members of the congressional black caucus endorsed bloomberg. this is fresh news. we love news around here. there's several candidates still running. why do you pick the mayor? >> well, because he is the best person to beat donald trump. he's got a great plan and a great ability to communicate that plan and i believe that he's the person that can bring this country together. he knows how to conduct and run a huge corporation so he can do it with this country. he has the ability to talk about issues that are important to average, every day americans. because he's won that he wasn't given his money like donald trump was, he earned it the old fashioned way. he built it so he could relate and understand as a result to open doors for others so that they have that opportunity. to me personally, starting talking about wealth creation and closing that wealth gap for african-americans, he's the one that's been talking about that. great speech he had in tulsa, talking about trying to make sure there's another million and a half african-americans becoming homeowners, opening doors for business opportunities for african-americans. that is tremendously important. he's the one candidate that had been talking about it and knows how to get it done. i think that's extremely important. >> i just think that the latest polling on stop and frisk, which police go to a tough neighborhood and see kids and basically throw them against the wall and see if they got any guns on them or they got marijuana or whatever. how is he going to get through that, past that? >> number one, mayor bloomberg has aapproximatepologized for t. he said he realizes now it was the wrong policy, it was a bad policy. i was against that policy. i was marching with reverend sharpton on that policy. but in my dialogue and conversations with him and others and watching the other things he's done also in that community, i'm sure he was trying to save the lives of innocent young men and young women, we've had in my district a young man playing basketball and he was shot by a stray bullet. so that's hard. but the policy of stop and frisk was not and is not the right policy to stop that type of a crime. and we see crime down in new york and the mayor has gotten it. so in his last term of office, he reduced stop and frisk in a great way. but he admits he takes full responsibility for it, that it took him too long to get there and so i think that others will look at it and they would look at the other work that he's done in these communities to be helpful and make sure they uplift the people. >> it's stupid but we always ask if someone color comes on, we ask them speaking for the black community, it tens of millions of people and a huge part of our country, is it your sense people will look to other aspects of this candidacy and say, yes, i like it. >> people are going to be looking at who can beat donald trump. that's the first thing. and then who has been right on, for example, health care. you know that mayor bloomberg has been out front for a long period of time trying to make sure people are heathy. who is going to be concerned about the economy and to make sure that it's an economy that works. he is an individual that understands that. about climate and colombia limae and he's going to be out front about that and he's going to get the guns. >> trump's now deleted tweet is not the only one he has sent attacking bloomberg. the president has criticized mike boomberg's ads, his height, his golf game, whatever that's about and his showing in new hampshire where bloomberg was not even on the ballot. why is he going after bloomberg? >> because that's the one person he does not want to have to face in a presidential campaign. that's the one person that he fears. he is scared of mike bloomberg. but mike bloomberg is not scared of him. i can tell you that. he will stand up to him. >> you made your call, gregory meeks, for mike bloomberg. three rules the candidates should keep in mind as they head towards super tuesday. you're watching "hardball." you're watching "hardball. hi guys. this is the chevy silverado with the world's first invisible trailer. invisible trailer? and it's not the trailer right next to us? this guy? you don't believe me? hop in. good lookin' pickup, i will say that. oh wow. silverado offers an optional technology package with up to 15 different views - including one enhanced view that makes your trailer appear invisible. wow. - that's pretty sweet. - that's cool. oooohh! that's awesome. where'd the trailer go? i love it. it's magic. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. and my lack of impulse control,, is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? 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which leads to another political rule, politics makes strike bed fellows. democratic moderates might soon, as soon as super tuesday on march 3rd find themselves voting to the nor their first choice but for former new york mayor mike bloomberg simply because they want the electoral equivalent of a designated driver, simply someone reliable enough, sober enough to get them home. but right now and to his tribute it's bernie sanders and the progressives who are driving the car. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. " "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on "all in" -- >> i want to thank the justice department for seeing this horrible thing. >> an emboldened president threatened the rule of law like never before. tonight growing outrage at the president's interference in cases involving his political allies, the aftermath of the mass exodus at the justice department. and how democrats plan to get answers from an attorney general executing the president's wishes. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> then democratic front-runner senator bernie sanders on his win in new hampshire.

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