Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20180808

Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20180808 23:00:00

Chris Matthews debates hot political issues with politicians, newsmakers and Washington leaders. Team. Facing charges of Insider Trading and lying to the fbi. The government alleging that collins tipped his son off about a failed drug test at a bio tech company. Family and friends then sold their stock in the company before the news broke saving them more than 768,000 in losses. Noting that no one is above the law as charges were laid out against the congressman. Congressman collins cheated our market and our justice system. These charges are a reminder that this is a nation of laws and that everybody stands equal before the bar of justice. Now collins has pleaded not guilty to the charges and his statement that lawyers say we are confident he will be the news about stock trade and news about his Making Recommendations of other members of congress to buy stock of this company of which he was a member of the board has become public for more than a year. What does this case look like to you, what does it look like the government is putting together . A slam dunk. A 30 page indictment. This man is on the board and the largest shareholder of the pharmaceutical company. Bad news that the main product, the trials havent gone well. The company is going to go out of business. He calls his son seven times saying sell the tostock, sell t stock. The his son sells the stock his other friends also sell the stock. They saved 700,000. This is what you dont do when you have insider information. We are expecting to hear from the congressman Chris Collins. You are looking at the podium here. This thing has been delayed. We are going to see what he has to say. His lawyer out there saying he is going to be vindicated as he enters the plea of not guilty. He has an office. He is a member of congress. Is that a potential bargaining chip. Is this a situation where basically, there is an agreement to give up the seat. It is bargaining chip if you have something that they want. Prosecutors bringing the case now probably because the Justice Department has this 60day rule, 100day rule, you dont bring that. Jake sherman from politico wrote overheard in the capital, new york representative Chris Collins talking loudly into a phone just off the House Floor Bragging about how many millionaires i made in buffalo in the last month. Bragging about a stock tip. The word that was used was brazen. We are hearing about a white house picnic and just off the floor. All of this going on within the earshot of powerful influential people. Apparently believe he is above the law. He is hiding in plain sight. Flagrantly violating the law and believes he is not going to get caught. Tell us laura, about his reputation, his reputation as a politician. We say first trump reporter, the district he is from is one of those districts that swung toward trump in 2016. Chris collins, the politician, what is his reputation. Well the district was redrawn and made more conservative, and reasonably wellliked. Chris collins was rumored to be considering a run for governor in the past couple of cycles. The governor and Chris Collins have gotten into fights over medicare funding and that is one person who i think is happy to see the news today. And collins arrest, we talk about the political implications. As politico writes democrats have tried to find ways to paint House Republicans as creatures. Washington swamp, corrupt political figures. Jason you were talking about. The other thing to look at here, we were talking last night about this Special Election out in ohio, it is still officially too close to call. Not sure the democrats are going to pick that one up right now. But trying to pick away at the number of 23 seats. Here is a district that was on nobodys radar in terms of being competitive. One of the reasons we are interested in this Press Conference is collins about to come out and say i am fighting the charges and running for reelection. Given how republican that district is, we have seen politicians get jammed up like this and lose in districts they otherwise would never lose in. Absolutely. This is that kind of last minute scandal that wakes up the competition. You have got manafort, you have his assistants, all of these people. Three or four guys running the v. A. Politicians gone wild in washington d. C. This has the potential to be as big as the House Banking Scandal which cost the democrats the house in the 90s. When have people coming in and saying i kind of got information from him but didnt make that much money. This has the opportunity to bring down several republicans. You look at this indictment today and you look at what you heard from the prosecutors, what is the metastatic potential of this in terms of other members being brought in. Collins himself has no defense. He didnt actually make any money from this insider information, yes his son did, his future soninlaw did, actually, his fiances father but not him. That is not a legal defense. But prosecutors would be interested in knowing about other Congress People if he tipped them off. And if he knows banything about President Trump, we can expect trump to pull what we call papadopoulos. That is Bargaining Power for collins. And again, prosecutors do want to make deals where they say okay, you have abused the public trust and you need to quit right now that will count favorably in what we recommend to the judge. We want to see what donald trump says. He will talk about this. And again we are waiting on the Press Conference. We are waiting on Chris Collins arrival. We will bring you that as soon as he steps onto the podium. Coming up, about last night, President Trump taking credit for a race that we say is still too close to call. Republicans may be embarrassing in ohio but should they be celebrating. We will go to the board and dig deep in ohio. What does it mean for the Bigger Picture across the country in november and also President Trumps legal team rejecting muellers terms for an interview. Is it a stall tactic to avoid a decision. A new report that claims trump gave maralago buddies sweeping control of the veterans affairs. This is hardball where the action is. I didnt believe it. Again. Ooh, baby, do you know what thats worth . I want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ooh im not hearing the confidence. Okay, hold the name your price tool. Power of options based on your budget and well make heaven a place on earth yeah oh, my angels ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ] ooh, heaven is a place on earth booking a flight doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. 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Now its as easy as pie. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . Strongly suggests that blue wave republicans feel it may well be building. Officially remains too close to call. Balderson clinging to a lead of 1,564 votes over danny oconnor. The district that President Trump won. Just a couple of hours ago, franklin county, the largest part of this district, Officials Say Accounting Error will drop baldersons lead by 190 votes. That is potentially significant there. That increases the possibility of a recount. President trump today tried to take a victory lap. They will win. If i find the time which i must, we will have a giant red wave. Trump also claimed his Eleventh Hour appearance over the district claimed a golden ticket. That was not good. After my speech on saturday night, there was a big turn for the better. Not everybody agrees with that assessment. Republican pollster frank luntz reporti reporting. Joined tonight. Thanks to all of you for being with us. Noelle, let me ask you, the trump factor. A revolt afoot. There is a lot of affection for him in the rural areas and talk that maybe he helped republicans there. Something you brought up to my point is that the fact that when President Trump came in, who is to say that it didnt push the opponents numbers up because of people that dont like donald trump. So what do you do, if you are a republican candidate, the president saying, i want to come to your district this fall, what do you tell him . It is the same catch 22 when obama was trying to do campaigning with people running on the democratic ticket, i dont want him to campaign for me. The same thing when bush got out of office. What is interesting about ohio is the fact that it is usually red, red, and the fact that we have not moved the needle with big numbers and that is scarey. Everybody is taking a victory lap. I agree with frank luntz on this we need to look at these numbers. We need to look at what is behind this and see are we in trouble. I think that when she came out and said this is a victory, this is a celebration, i love her. But this was a great opportunity for her to use her platform and say listen republicans we cant have things this close. We need to make sure we get out this vote. And speaking of getting out the vote, the thing that jumped out of me, it was the suburbs, it was in columbus and immediately outside of it. Oconnor 165 of t i seen it all over the country. Every single place i have been in this country over the last year and a half, you meet these women who have been voted before but never canvassed. I have met women who cut back from work and devote themselves to trump activism. You can see it in the numbers. You can see the complete collapse of College Educated white women in the republican party. They are under water now with colle College Educated white men. Is that the message for the democratic party, anti trump. Most of the candidates dont have to talk about trump that much. The candidates are out there talking about health care or higher minimum wages, and talking about economic issues. They barely need to mention trump because of all of these activists out there. That name did happen to come up last night. They said it was a victory celebration. Balderson had plenty of gratitude to go around. Lets listen to what he said. I would like to thank President Trump. And take the time to thank Vice President pence. I am going to do everything i can to keep America Great again. Notably, he did not vothank governor kasich. The president trying to take credit for this. The role he is going to be playing when we get into september, october, early november. How active is he going to be going into these districts . He wants to be very active. White house advisers that i have talked to say he is hungry. Clear effort by advisoors as well as congressional leaders. Go to red states with senate races like montana, west virginia. The president on the other hand thinks that he is added value anywhere he goes. He wants to be out there. He wants the midterms to be about him and i think he is going to be active both on the trail and also you know, expressing his thoughts on twitter on these campaigns as they heat up. There are republicans there in d. C. Trying to save the house. Have they come up with strategy on how they are going to integrate trump with this effort. What is he going to tweet this morning. They cant control what he is going to tweet. Some places where he can go. And they are using Vice President pence a lot. For months now he has been doing a lot of campaigning in some of these House Districts as well as raising money. But the president is going to go where he wants to go. He wants to be campaigning and i think the white house is trying to keep him focused on the senate. Michelle, the school of thought and i tend to subscribe to it. You dont need a message, the message is if you have issue with the president , use this as a check, use this as a vehicle. I am looking at the pattern, with such concentrated democratic strength around columbus, is there a longer issue. Well, i think that you know, because it is not just metro areas, it is met crro suburbs. If you start winning suburbs of houston and some of these cities, that is a majority. I think that eventually there might be tension in that you have because the opposition to trump is so broad and kind of a big tent, you have candidates in Orange County who are conservative. That might cause tension later on. But those things, those are Luxury Problems to have, a party that is too big. And that can be resolved in time. Thank you. Again, the waiting game continues in buffalo. Cramp Chris Collins arrested indicted. He was supposed to speak to the press. Keeping an eye on it. 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