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gathering, Building Trust between Law Enforcement and the Muslim Community here, and smashing isis strongholds in the middle east. Smashing them. Anyway, today the countrys current commander in chief gave his final speech to the u. N. General assembly. President obama never mentioned trump by name, but it was clear whom he was talking about when he warned of a crude populism gathering around the world. Lets watch the president. Today, a nation ringed by walls would only imprison itself. We must reject any forms of fundamentalism or racism. Instead, we need to embrace the tolerance that results from respect of all human beings. In europe, in the united states, you see people wrestle with concerns about immigration and changing demographics and suggesting that somehow, people who look different are corrupting the character of our countries. I do not believe progress is possible if our desire to preserve our identities gives
ways to an impulse to dehumanize or dominate another group. Well, with donald trump blamed president obama and Hillary Clinton for the rise of isis. Today he said, clintons time as secretary of state, quote, unleashed this monstrous evil upon us. He also blamed our current immigration policies. These attacks were made possible because of our extremely open immigration system, which fails to properly vet and screen the individuals coming into our country. Its just a plain fact that our current immigration system makes no real attempt to determine the views of the people entering our country. We have no idea who they are, what they think. Isis is torturing, murdering, executing, and exterminating people in a campaign of genocide. And what is Hillary Clinton suggesting . What is she suggesting . You know what shes lets let more people come in. Well, clinton today was off the campaign trail. Her Campaign Said she held a Conference Call in the morning with her nasa security advisers to discuss this weekends attack. Anyway, yesterday, Hillary Clinton slammed donald trump for his rhetoric, which she said was helping isis recruit fighters. Helping isis recruit. Lets watch her. I dont want to speculate, but heres what we know. And i think its important for voters to hear this and weigh it in making their choice in november. We know that a lot of the rhetoric weve heard from donald trump has been seized on by terrorists, in particular, isis. Because they are looking to make this into a war against islam. Well, donald trump fired back against that charge today. Lets watch. Her claim that my opposition to radical islamic terrorism is a recruiting tool. What the how does that have to do with im being tough. Why is that a recruiting im much tougher than her on this
problem, this horrible situation. Because im tough, its a recruiting tool . It demonstrates a level of ignorance about the Terror Threat that really is disqualifying for a person seeking the presidency. Well, how will trumps tough talk on terrorism play with voters . David corn is Washington Bureau chief for mother jones and an msnbc political analyst. Jay newton smalls is washington correspondent for time magazine. And Boris Epshteyn is senior manager to the Trump Campaign. I know youre with trump and speaking for him, but this argument that somehow trumps rhetoric is galvanizing our opposition against us, where do you stand on that . No ones buying that, chris. You have to look at the facts, okay . Hillary clinton was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013. Under her watch, isis truly grew. It was a failed entity beforehand, under a different name. It became isis under her watch. 80 of people who have been killed by isis have done so since she was secretary of state. And isis now is in about 20
countries. Isis has become a global threat under Hillary Clinton. And this is a really suede for her to try to pivot from this, when she knows she doesnt have a leg to stand on. Again, libya became a failed state on her watch. Syria, iraq, egypt, of all resulted in some levels of chaos. Although egypt after two revolutions is out of it, but all on her watch. Hillary clinton was a terrible secretary of state. And shes trying to run on a record that simply doesnt exist. Thats not going to help around here, those kind of comments. You dont generalize. Heres the question. Trumps running as mr. Trump. Hes running as the guy whos gong to be tougher on the enemy and hes going to somehow discern who the terrorists are before they become terrorists. This guy involved in the new york thing, the suspect, apparently came here, he was a naturalized american citizen. He wanted to become a good american, by all estimates. And then somehow became radicalized on troops to pakistan and afghanistan. My question is, how do you discern the enemy that emerges in his or her own soul . Well, you cant. Because he came over when he was 7. And nothing that trump has said about profiling would make a different. And i have to say this he says you wont he wants to know what ideas i have. Youre right, at 7 years old, he department have any particularly radical ideas. And boris just said something that makes no sense. We had malcolm nance on this Network Earlier today, and we do know that isis is using trumps rhetoric as a recruiting tool. And we had boris come on and say, we all know thats not true. Hes spinning, doesnt care about the facts. And we have people on who are experts, and they say the exact opposite of what boris just told our audience. May i respond, chris . Of course. Well, listen, david, to your point, i disagree with malcolm. Listen, may have he just said no one believes pit. Sure, fine. But we know that the threat of isis has come long before mr. Trump ran for president. We know that radical islamic
jihadism, radical islamic terrorism came long before. And in terms o of what mr. Trump wants to do, making sure people who come into this country dont want to hurt it. How would you have stopped this goo rahami from coming into this country . He did came when he was 7 years old. He came with his family, look at the family, look at their backgrounds . What would you have found . Thats one what would you have have found . I dont know. We didnt have the opportunity to look. The father called the son a terrorist. The father whatever the father, whether hes dealing in hi hyperbole, the father was not part of some terrorist plot. Im not hear to talk about the specific father. Well, youre using this case as an example of terrorism that would have been stopped had your guy been president , right . If mr. Trump were president , what we would do is make sure people who are coming into this country do not want to hurt this country. Hes already been here. What do you do with naturalized boris, youre on
this show to answer a question. What would you do to a naturalized american who you thought might be harboring dangerous thoughts. We have a free country. Someones allowed to go online and watch whatever they want. What you cant do is commit crimes. But you can have a conspiracy to commit crimes. You can say watching videos who are teaching you how to build bombs and discussing building bombs, and being in chat rooms is conspiracy to commit terrorism. And that is something that is a crime. Imagine putting someone in jail for going online. Conspiracy to commit terrorism. I would be happy to do so. So i spent much of today on capitol hill talking to senators about this, from the Intelligence Committee and the Homeland Security committee, and they say there are troubling signs that were missed. The fbi should have taken the fathers warning a little more serious. The fact that he went to quetta in pakistan, quetta really is the hotbed of terrorism, so its like going to wheres the crime begin . No, youre right. If theres not its very
hard, and this is something that congress is going to have to look at, the fbi is going to look at to say, if theyre monitoring all of his communications, they saw no reason to arrest him. They saw no reason to detain him. How do you stop somebody . Heres the problem. Boris, heres the problem. Suppose some kids after a couple beers one night or for fun in the dormitory, say, lets look up this bombmaking thing they have online. See how it works. You going to take those kids and put them in jail . No, youre going to investigate their behavior you would . And make sure they dont mean to go and hurt americans, then nothing happens. But if its part of a larger plot or conspiracy, of course you have to run down thats a lead. You would send the fbi around to interview kids who check out something online . You would do it, at that stage . If those kids are looking at bombmaking material. Maybe theyre just curious. Where do we draw the line in a free society . You draw the line in making sure people dont build bombs. He said the other day, i wont spy on americans. Wh bis is talking about is spying on millions of
amican no, its not. Wait a second, boris, you had your turn. Hes going to be tough on isis . We have no idea what his plans are. Hes going to fire the generals, but first ask them to give him a plan in 30 days. All you get out of donald trump is talk, no policies, inconsistency let me go to jay on this. If we can stop crimes, a husband shoots his wife, wife shoots the husband, somebody does Something Like that, a kid robs a gas station, if we can stop crimes because we few they were going to commit the crime, we would havent a crime problem. But, chris, those are lone wolf crimes. These are crimes where people need to be part of a group. Were not sure they are. He had travel. He had relationships. He had contacts. These are warning signs. But theyre not illegal. Theyre not illegal this is a really okay, i just dont think that i understand the need to get tough and the requirement politically to say youre tougher than the other person. What trump has to do and you have to do is explain exactly how you, within the limits of our constitution, would protect peoples rights, and also,
reduce the amount of terrorism. Now, this terrorism in this country is not regular. Its not frequent. It occurs. And i wonder whether you can actually stomp out terrorism. I dont think you can stomp it out, do you . You go to San Bernardino, to orlando do you think you can stomp out terrorism . Is that what youre saying . Youre looking at a pattern thats picking up. Are you saying every terrorist act could have been prevented . What im saying to you is we can do a better job of preventing it if we looked into these people. Look at San Bernardino. Those were very strong warning signs there and those people, the wife especially were always saying illegal there was no i mean, San Bernardino was a husband and wife and those are very privileged communications. Those are very, very hard to wiretap, frankly. And a lot of but facebook is not can i please finish . A lot of the stuff, if its a conspiracy like it was in france, where you have 15, 20 people, theyre communicating all over the place, that is something that is absolutely preventable, and you talk to experts in the united states,
thats something thats hard to happen here because its such a huge mass conspiracy, and we do wiretap enormously. But if its something where its one person logging on well, ft. Hood, orlando yeah, orlando, these are lone wolf. Lone wolf attacks are almost impossible to prevent. I dont know if its presumption, your here to support trump, but common sense is also on this table. How do you stop every case in a free society, if somebody decides someone is deciding to commit a crime . Individuals you talk about lone wolf. Someone who says, im mad at this country. My life is no so the happy. So im going to do something that shows my attitude to this country in a violent way. You cant stop that, can you . Chris, i disagree with the premise of a lone wolf. These people are not lone wolves. Theyre all tied by an ideology. In this case, theyre all tied to isis in one way or another. They have facebook postings, which made it clear that donald trump attacks Hillary Clinton youre just yelling over me. And the president for saying that we have to fight the isis narrative, right . He just said, weve got to fight
the ideology. Weve got to fight the people the ideology without a single plan. Do you have a plan . Okay, i dont think i think weve got to get access to social media. I dont think its a legal conspiracy in our system, boris, if somebody gets something onlined, theyre inspired by it in a negative way, in a violent way, with i dont think thats a conspiracy. As an attorney, ill tell you, if they have one conversation about planning to commit a crime, thats a conspiracy right there. Okay, okay, that gets very close to being a police state. Thank you very much, jane newtonsmall and Boris Epshteyn. Coming up, this sunday, a special edition of hardball here at a special time as we get ready for the first president ial debate on monday. Join me at 8 00 eastern sunday, debate eve. Well be here. Coming up, new information on the suspect who set off bombs in new york and new jersey two years ago. The fbi investigated rahami after discovering his father yelled youre a terrorist. So why wasnt he stopped then . And the Washington Post reports that donald trump used
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welcome back to hardball. Investigators are learning new details about that suspect in last weekends bomb attacks in new york and new jersey. Auk meade khan ra happenmy appeared on the fbis radar as far back as august of 14, after neighbors told police rahamis father called his son a terrorist. He yelled that at him. We also learned today that rahami was carrying a notebook when he was captured yesterday. It offered clues about his thinking, including whats been described as rambling thoughts on slain al qaeda leader, anwar al awlaki, and prior terror attacks in the united states, including the Boston Marathon bombing. Today, federal officials are tearing terrorism charges against rahami for those bombings in new york and new
jersey. For more, im joined by pete williams. Pete, the federal charges, that means what . That theyre just proceeding here . Thats right, theyre going to be filed in both new york and new jersey, and theres lots of new detail in the charges tonight, chris. The federal government says that he began that rahami began ordering materials to build bombs in june on ebay using his own name. They say two days before the bombings in new york, he recorded a cell phone video, recorded by a family member, showing him lighting something in a cylinder, in a backyard near or at the home. The 12 of his fingerprints were found on the 27th street bomb, thats the unexploded Pressure Cooker bomb, and prints were also found on materials with the elizabeth, new jersey, bomb that was set off just yesterday. And then they found, as far as this notebook that he was carrying, he included such antiu. S. Statements as this. You continue your slaughter against the mujahideen, be it afghanistan, iraq, shah, meaning
palestine. He praises nidal hasan who killed 13 people at ft. Hood, texas, and praises bin laden and al awlaki and closes with this. In salah, meaning god willing, the sounds of the bombs will be heard in the streets, gunshots to your police, death to your oppression. So hes now facing the federal charges in addition to the local charges. Hes charged with setting off a weapons of mass destruction and bombing a public place. So, you may have not heard the somewhat partisan argument we just had here from someone from the Trump Campaign arguing that we should be intervening in these cases, long before we have the kind of evidence that youre talking about. Is that feasible . Like, can you go after somebody because they traveled to some place in pakistan . Can you arrest a person for watching something on the internet from al awlaki . Is there anywhere that you could be more aggressive thats legal and constitutional than what we do . None of those things are
crimes. But heres the issue that you talked about earlier. So in 2014, a neighbor told the police that during a Domestic Violence attack, in which rahami was accused of stabbing his brother in the leg, while all that was going on, a neighbor said she heard rahamis father say, youre a terrorist, get out of the house. The police told the fbi, the fbi talked to him, and he said, no, i was angry, i didnt mean it. I just said in the heat of the moment i dont think hes a terrorist. Nonetheless, the fbi says it did look at its databases, did look at materials in the governments databases about him. Interviewed family members, interviewed friends, and concluded he wasnt a terrorist. Talked to the father one more time, who said, yep, i said it and i was mad and i didnt mean it. So, that was then, and of course, then he did attractive to pakistan and afghanistan to some pretty sketchy areas. And what the government said is that u. S. Citizens can go there, but they are subject to
seconda secondary examination. When they come back, theyre questioned about the reason for his travel. He said he went overseas, got married, and was trying to get his wife back here. And of course, hes from afghanistan. So its hard to im sure some people will say, and im beginning to hear members of congress saying, well, was enough attention paid here . But theres nothing here that would have put him under arrest. And even if he was on a watch list. That would have meant that they paid a little more attention to hill when he traveled. I wouldnt believe that the information that i just sketched out would qualify him for the nofly list. So thats it is always a problem. Youve done it the way i thought it was. Thanks so much, pete williams. Lets bring in National Security analyst, juan zarati. This debate we had, it may have seened buffoonish, but the idea that we can arrest someone because theyre contemplating a crime. Contemplating is not illegal. And its a very difficult
spectrum from the fbi. Because theyre not looking at just criminal behavior, but criminal suspicibehavior. Were not looking for an ethnic group, were looking for a mindset. And i think that guy, Boris Epshteyn finally admitted it, the argument that david jumped on, yes, its a mindset, an ideology. You can be 22 years old and not buy it, 23 years old and have bought it. And thats a reality. And i think what this notebook reflects is that this individual, rahami, bought into this ideology, this narrative. He clearly has followed the lineage of it over time, bin laden, anwar al awlaki, its about markers of how this ideology manifests. How does the fbi find those markers, how do they put it together . And frankly, how do they put it around the array of individuals that they have to worry about . Keep in mind, theyre looking at over a thousand cases, 50 states, and he cant be on everybody 24 7. Even the individuals they they
know are potentially problematic. I remember back in the 60s, a father could yell, if your hair went too long, youre a hippie, that doesnt mean youre a hippie. Youre not living on the Street Corner drugged out because he doesnt like his haircut. Today a father yells at his son, youre a terrorist, because he doesnt like the hair, doesnt like what hes saying. You cant arrest a guy for looking like a terrorist, but the father knew what he meant. The problem the fbi has, anytime theres an incident like this, you look back, hindsights 2020. All of this looks in collection to be difficult, and then you start discovering more about it, and it becomes difficult. Theres a tom cruise movie about it called minority report. A great movie. But totally scifi. The fbis whipsawed. The time theyve engaged in arrests, sting operations, they get charged with entrapment, going too far, too aggressively, when they dont do enough, and they are required to close cases where they dont find
information that leads them to further suspicion. They cant watch its by guideline and law. The fbi agents are required to respect constitutional rights. Theyre also charged with preventing attacks. Thats a very hard balloons. And i think weve got you know why donald trump calls all that constitutional stuff . Pc, politically correct. That is the challenge were in as a country, how free are we going to remain. We want zero terrorism, it may require going all the way to the end. And i think americans say, were going to do our best as americans. The expectation is zero tolerance, we strive for that, but certainly dont give up our rights and constitution. Thank you for being our expert. Up next, another scoop from the Washington Post about Donald Trumps charity. You might call it that. The post reports that the Trump Foundation used money from other people to settle lawsuits that involved his businesses. The reporter who broke that story is coming here next, right here. And this is hardball the place for politics. Im going to make this as simple as possible for you. You can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. Or. You can get the quicksilver card from capal one. Quicksilr earns you unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. I shouldnt have to ask. Whats in your wallet . Stop clicking around. Travel sites to find a better price. The lowest prices our hotels are always at hilton. Com. So pay less and get more only at hilton. Com. My mmade a simple trip toonic the grocery storesis anything but simple. So i had an important conversation with my dermatologist about humira. He explained that humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contribus to my symptoms. In clinical trials, most aa were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75 and even 90 clearance in just 4 months. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as havblood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Nt art humira if you have an infection. Ask about humira, the 1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. Clearer skin is possible. Im milissa rehberger. Heres whats happening. One air force pilot is dead, another injured after a youtube spy plane crashed shortly after takeoff in california. Pieces of the cold war era plane was spotted roadside. Pieces ejected during the Training Mission and the investigation is ongoing. And the head of wells fargo told Congress Today he accepts full responsibility for the unethical sales practices rampant within the company. Lawmakers blasted the ceo after millions of fake accounts were
opened in customers names. Back to hardball. Welcome back to hardball. This morning, the washington poo post reported that donald trump is using his Charity Foundation to settle lawsuits involving his businesses. The post found four examples where they found that trump may have violated laws against selfdealing, which prohibits leaders from using their charity money. This comes after the Trump Foundation paid a 2,500 fine to the irs after it was revealed the foundation had improperly donate 25,000 to Florida Attorney general, pam bondi, with around the same time her office was considering a Fraud Investigation into trump university. Well, both donald trump and pam bondi deny any allegation of pay
payforplay. And hes also under from the attorney general of new york. Nbcs parent company, nbc universal, made a 500,000 donation to Trump Foundation. Joining me right now for more on this, im joined by the author of that article in the Washington Post, david farenthold, political reporter for the Washington Post. David, explain this use of money, use of Foundation Money for business personal purposes. Well, we looked at two cases where two businesses, one time it was a golf course in new york. Both cases, they got into legal trouble. And both settlements agreed to make a donation to charity, but in both cases, the business didnt pay anything. A trump used a separate charity with other peoples money to pay those so its not trumps money in the foundation . As far as we can tell, he hasnt given a donation since 2008. Its other peoples money. In other words, hes dipping into money that isnt his and using it. Like going into the collection basket at church and give me a
handful of money. Is it any different than that . Hes taken this money in the charity, supposed to do charitable work, and using it to pay off obligations that his businesses have already occurred . Why did he stop giving money in 08 . The Trump Foundation has the name trump on it. If they give money away, he gives it away, he gets credit for giving money away. He occasionally uses that money to pay bills with. Its really unusual. A lot of rich people create foundations, put their money on it, and give their money away. Thats why it has their name on it. Thats the expectation he trades on. One, its unusual that trump hasnt put any of his own money in, and he continues to put other peoples money in, people are under the impression its trumps money hes getting. What do you make of the fact, what we jumped on last week, he paid 25,000 to a Political Action committee, which is politics, which his Foundation Money. And then somebody that works for him, i guess a joker, came out and said, that was intended to
go to some pregnancy emergency situation for young women or girls who get pregnant, who dont want to have abortions out in kansas city somewhere. The idea that trump is giving money to that organization is ludicrous. And that was his alibi. Its even more complicated than that. They say that trump gives, in order to give to this Political Group in florida. And somehow, they first confuse it with a charity in utah. So they cut the money out of the Trump Foundation. Then the irs tells the foundations accountants tell the irs, we didnt give any donation to pam bondi, to his group in florida. We gave the money to a different charity in kansas. It looks like hes giving money to a politician down there, with an attorney general, so they wont prosecute. So anybody whos watching it, who says, why are you making a contribution to some attorney general down in florida whose offices is investigating or could well investigate and diet you for trump university. That looks like, you know, politics at its worst. The real question is, when did pam bondi ask trump for the docks . Because she did ask. And when she did she said she did it on the
record. She had the conversation with trump, give me some money. We dont know when and what the two of them knew about that possible investigation at the time. Youre doing great work. Follow the money, bob woodward, right . Thank you, dave fahrenthold. Up next, six days to go until donald trump and Hillary Clinton meet in the first big debate. Its next monday night. When we come back, hardball rules about who win or lose. Political people, i know you are like me, love these pictures of well, its going to be reagan going at it and lloyd benson going at it and all of these people doing their best and worst to show you. Our panel and the two guys running for president , both Hillary Clinton and trump, how not to lose a debate and how to win one. Well be right back. Its coming up monday night, by the way. And on sunday night, on the eve of the debate night, of course, of course, join us, please, there it is, the big graphic, with 8 00, this coming sunday night, a especially edition of hardball, the night before the first debate. Youre watching it, hardball, the place for politics. Is it a professor who never stops being a student . Is it a caregiver determined to take care of her own . Or is it a lifetime of work that blazes the path to your passions . Your personal success takes a Financial Partner who valu it as much as you do. Learn more at tiaa. Org bp is pioneering Drone Technology to monitor refinery operations, so our engineers can spot potential problems from any angle. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. When a moment turns romantic, why pause to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . Cialisor daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid longterm injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. Or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. Ask your doctor about cialis and a 200 savings card. Stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. I wbr id wbr21920 know more about isis then the apprgenerals do. Age. John mccain, a war hero. Hes not a war hero, hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people that werent captured ok. Donald trump compared his sacrifices to the sacrifices of two parents who lost their son in war. How would you answer that father . What sacrifice have you made for your country . I think ive made a lot of sacrifices, built great structures. Ive had tremendous success, i think. Those are sacrifices . b
would you go into the marital arena if she hits the you with the women thing . I dont think im looking to do that, bill. I dont know what im going to do, exactly. You know, it depends on what level she hits with you, if its fair or unfair. But certainly, im not looking to do that. Welcome back to hardball. That was donald trump on fox last night, on whether he would bring up Hillary Clintons marriage in the upcoming president ial debates. He said it would depend on conditions. Anyway, in just six days to go now until our first showdown on monday. Its sure to be high stakes television. So he we wanted to look at how a candidate can win or lose a president ial debate. Heres what we learned over the years. Rule number one. Oneliners can work, whether theyre prepared or not. A welldelivered comeback is often the only thing the audience remembers after the dust settles. When president jimmy carter was criticizing Ronald Reagan in the 1980 debate for his opposition years early to medicare, reagan
famously dismissed carters attack with this memorable remark. These are the kind of elements of a National Health insurance important to the american people. Governor reagan, again, typically, is against such a proposal. Governor . There you go again. Well, in the Vice President ial debate of 1980, lloyd benson famously delivered this devastating blow to dan quayle after quayle compared his experience to that of john f. Kennedy. I have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did when he sought the presidency. Senator benson . Senator, i served with jack kennedy. I knew jack kennedy. Jack kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, youre no jack kennedy. That camera angle killed. Im joined now by the roundtable. Eugene robinson, msnbc political analyst and column u. S. With
the Washington Post. And howard dean is an msnbc political analyst and former chairman of the dnc and former governor, if not president , of vermont. Let me ask you, youve been in these debates. Republic of vermont. It seems to me there that lloyd benson was ready, he had heard that this guy was going to try that again. And with a good clubman, he said, youre not getting in the club. Of all of the debates ive ever seen, i still feel terrible over dan quayle over that one. Benson actually put him in a texas barbecue and fried him in about 30 seconds. I couldnt believe it. But he needed colleen, he needed quayle to make the claim. He couldnt have done it if quayle hadnt said, im john kennedy. You need your opponent to set you up sometimes. And debates are made up of moments. And only a few lines survive. And so sometimes Hillary Clinton gets mired in the details and its the one line that actually gene, you know this business like i do. Somewhere in new york now or in new jersey, the golf course, donald trump and roger ailes are
sitting around figuring, how do they construct one of these moments. Ho do we know when the time is right to whack back . You know, you can only prepare to a certain extent. You can get some oneliners, you can imagine situations and have a you know, have a line prepared, but, youve got to have the opening. The opening has to be there. And youve got to be quick enough to, you know, to jump in. To kill. Go for the jugular. Rule number two, show your heart. Candidates who are afraid to open up themselves can pay a price on the debate stage, especially if they appear too rehearsed, unemotional, or just uninspired. Case in point, 1988, when michael dukakis, the governor of massachusetts gave a boiler plate answer to this very perm question from bernard shaw. Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death
penalty for the killer . No, i wouldnt, bernard. Ive opposed the Death Penalty for my entire life. I dont see any evidence its a deterrent and there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. Colleen . That killed him. Im not completely sure we, but i think i know why. He didnt even flimplg. He showed no emotion about the prospect of his wife being raped and murdered and he just focused on the principle. And people viewers want to see someone who looks president ial, but they also want to see someone whos an actual person, with feelings. That kind of answer worked in massachusetts. That state, it works. But it didnt work anyplace else. It was bloodless, right. And look, this is a big opportunity, i think, for Hillary Clinton, because, she doesnt often show herself. She doesnt show the heart. When you get to see the person, as you did, in New Hampshire eight years ago, she does very well. She connects with people. Ill tell you one thing she can do. If trump asks her about her marriage, shes going to turn
him into toast. Thats something she cares about, shes passionate about the fact that she stuck . She stuck by bill clinton. Shes going to say, ive been married to the same man for 35 years, whatever it is. Shes going to look at trump and i dont think trumps going to do that. Hes not stupid, but if he does do it, hes going to get skewered. When it comes to his marriages, hes judged on the curve. Thats the problem, hes judged on the curve on everything. Its television stupid. When it comes to style and appearance, the first debate between John F Kennedy and Richard Nixon showed this medium. Kennedy showed up tanned, rested and ready, his dark suit showed out and he projected youth and vigor. Meanwhile, nixon had spent two weeks before that debate in the hospital with a staph infection after banging his knee on a car door. Perhaps most famously, kennedy had the help of a professional makeup artist, while nixon relied on something called lazy
shave. Nixons chin glisened with sweat, and his lightcolored suit made his pale comparison look washed out. The Chicago Daily news speculated that he had been sabotaged by a democratic makeup artist. Howard . Its true. Appearance matters a lot. You know, a lot of consultants have showed me this, and i absolutely believe it. You want to see whos going to win the debate . Turn off the sound. Watch how the two candidates portray themselves and hold themselves on the stage. Its not all because nixon beat kennedy among women, if that means anything. Its not like, hes a charmer whos going to win. Hillary clinton, appearance is no problem. Trump the hair. But, you know, i wonder how much prep theyre going to i think its psychological. Well talk about it at the end of the show. If you come in there selfconfident. Of course, kennedy was bred like this aristocrat. He knew, im better than him. And a terrible performance by mitt romney in the first debate, where he walked in like hes a better man than the president. It drove me crazy. I thought it was repellant, but it worked. He creamed the president in that debate. That selfconfidence. Yeah, absolutely. What do you know . When you get in the debate, do you ever feel if youre going to inwith or lose based on how you went in . I know its actually true. You can get stiff ive been given a stiff upper cut by a couple of people. I had four really confident people recaall ganging up on me. We were rooting for you. My whole family. I appreciate it. It wasnt our fault. Rule number four, sunts are high risk and can easily back fire. Weve got to go back to al gore. He made that goofy attempt to intimidate george w. Bush by walking right up beside bush as he was speaking. It proved to be an awkward, thats understating it, moment. Lets watch this moment. I can get something positive done on behalf of the people. Thats what the question in this campaign is about. Its not only whats your philosophy and whats your position on issues, but can you
get things done . And i believe i can. That body check of w. s, i know its not intellectual, colleen, but something about most guys i know watching, will go, what a gooba. First of all, men dont like guys coming in their space. Theyre either robbing him or whatever theyre doing, get away from me. Hes trying to be too clever by half. And if you spend all your energy trying to trip up your opponent, you trip yourself up. Remember the long kiss . You need to focus on putting your best face forward i thought that kiss at the convention was almost as weird. The roundtable is staying with us. This is hardball, the place for politics. More of these clips, coming up. Having fun. All you need is love plays my eyelove is finding a different angle. My eyelove is season 1, episode 1. My eyelove is making a story come alive. Eyelove is all the things we love to do with our eyes. But its also having a chat with your eye doctor about dry eyes that interrupt the things you love. Because if your eyes feel dry, itchy, gritty, or you have occasional blurry vision, it could be chronic dry eye. Go to myeyelove. Com and feel the love. Lets just get a sandwich or something. You dont just graduate from medical school, or sothing. And we dont just pull smoked chicken, bake fresh foccacia and handsce avocado. Theres nothing or something about it. Well, is the patriarch of the bush family backing his family im sorry. Im ready. Standby anyway, on monday, former president George Herbert walker bush reported told Board Members of his point of Life Foundation that he planned to vote for the democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton. However, a spokesman for president bush told nbc today, the vote president bush will cast as a private citizen in some 50 days will be just that, a private vote cast in some 50 days. Hes not commenting on the president ial race in the interim. In other words, its a nondenial. By the way, were just six days away from the first president ial debate between Hillary Clinton
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difference between iran and the embassy in lebanon. Iran we were held by a foreign government. In lebanon, you had a wanton terrorist action where the government opposed it. Let me just say, first of all, that i almost resent, Vice President bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. What do you think . Its a little tired to talk about it. The first woman candidate who will probably be the frontrunner going into next weeks debate. Does trump have any particularly dangerous territory in this regard . Theres a lot of dangerous territory there for donald trump. Weve seen him struggle not to Say Something offensive when women have challenged him. We think back on the primary debate, megyn kelly, Carly Fiorinas face. This week when he talked about the pastor whats to stop Hillary Clinton good for the gander, good for the goose, what if Hillary Clinton unloads on him with every bad thing hes ever
said about women. I think she won that exchange. She might look obviously in the clinton camp they must be trying to figure out how to get under his skin. How to provoke what they know is there just waiting to erupt. How about saying like, you havent called me crooked yet, donald. When will you get around to crooked . Thats what you call me when im not here, but im here. She says that after she reminds him of the money he took from his charity. Youve been watching the show tonight. Rule number six is that gaffes are amplified on the debate stage. Gerald ford learned that the hard way when he made this claim about the soviet union and the cold war. There is no soviet domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a ford administration. Im sorry. Could i just did i understand you to say, sir, that the russians are not using Eastern Europe as their own sphere of
influence. Each of those countries is independent or autonomous. It has its own territorial integrity. Imagine the cold war and the berlin war coming down about 13 years ahead of schedule. He did this by accident, but trump actually believes this putin propaganda. This was an accident. Why did jerry ford say that europe was independent of russia . It had to be like a brain spasm. Just he blanks. I heard he was briefed by a guy that briefed him said that he briefed him that the people dont see themselves as part of the russian world. See themselves as german or polish or whatever, but they definitely know the russians are there, okay . The tanks will roll. This is great fun. I hope the debates are as good as this. When we return, my election diary for september 20th. Six days before the president ial debate is coming on this monday
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president ial debater to try to get into the other guys ear. When kennedy went up against nixon he acted like he never met the guy. It rattled nixon to the core. They had been working together in the congress for years and had been friends early on. Nixon expected a duel between old colleagues. Kennedy came across like a yankee executioner. I dont think nixon ever got over it. Mitt romney talked down to him. It may have struck you as repellent, it did me, but it worked. The president just couldnt or wouldnt stand up for him. Fortunately for president obama he got it right in the second and third debates. Who will be most sure of themselves out there when they have to go facetoface, who will have themselves convinced that theyre the most secure person, who will seem in command, who will radiate strength . Because this is one time there will be no applause to mark success. Who will signal who wins is the poise of the candidates themselves. The one who sweats loses. The one who smiles wins
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