Theres more on our website. Well be back tomorrow. Thanks for watching. Same bad time, same bat channel. Coming up, hardball with chris matthews. Second amendment people. Lets play hardball. Weve been watching this scene in new york at the trump tower where a climber climbed the glass side of the building that serves as the headquarters
of the Trump Campaign. It is also where the trumps live. Anyway, moments ago police grab that had guy and pulled him into that open window. Were going to get all the days news and the political news including the fallout from trumps comments yesterday. First, adam reiss is outside trump tower. What is the story here . Is it just some guy seeking publicity and thats the end of the story . Were not cleared for that. Good evening. He didnt make it to the pent house but he is about to be taken out. For about three hours, he was able to chime almost a third of the way up. He made it to the 21st floor. When he made it to the 16th floor, the navy s. E. A. L. S of the nypd, they blew out a window so
they could grab him. They said he was being uncooperative. He moved toward the south of the building and he continues to chime north with his suction cups. All afternoon, people gathered here on madison avenue, cheering him. When he finally made it into the window on the 21th floor, it was a bit of a scuffle as they tried to grab him and haul him in. The Police Wanted to make sure everyone was safe. They accomplished that. He will be taken to Bellevue Hospital for treatment and for observation. Taken to bellevue. Thats an old phrase. Congratulations to the nypd. Ending this without a tragedy. Anyway, donald trump is not in trump tower. Necessary florida where he is holding a rally set to begin any minute. The Trump Campaign and its allies are defending the candidates call dwroed second
amendment people to stop a president Hillary Clinton from appointing judges. Many heard him say that Second Amendment people might be able to stop her after she won. Well, trump said he was wbr id wbr1942 referring to their votes before he won. Heres what he said so we can watch it again. Hillary clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment. If she gets the pick if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, i dont know. Anyway, the New York Times lead editorial called on republicans to repudiate wbr id wbr2232 their nominee. The Washington Post said it belongs to a list of disqualifiers, and it was likened to the right wing rhetoric in israel that led to the assassination of yitzhak rabin. Today, Hillary Clinton said trump was casually inciting b
violence. Words matter, my friends. Yesterday, we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. His casual cruelty to a gold star family. His casual suggestion that more countries should have nuclear weapons. And now his casual inciting of violence. Every single one of these incidents shows us that donald trump simply does not have the temperament to be president and commanderinchief of the United States. Today donald trump accused the media of turning small stories into big things. Here he is. It is the press itself. They can take a little story that isnt a story and make it into a big story. It happens so much. It happens so much. And speaking of that. Remember this. We have so many things we have to protect in this country. We have to protect our Second Amendment, which is under siege. Remember, it is under siege. Ill talk about one of the biggest defenders, Rudolph Giuliani. We begin in sunrise, florida, where trump is expected to take stage at a rally this hour. Do you think, this is an interpretive question. Do you think trump knows what he was doing order does this automatically and then skips away from it as if it didnt happen . Youre going to have to ask trump that. Im not sure. I think hes gone off script
a number of times and said things other candidates would never have said or lost their candidacy over. This is another exam many of that. As you played out. This is pushing back on this a lot and im sure, giuliani will say that as well, saying that he was inciting voters to act, to use their influence, not to incite violence. The issue with Trumps Campaign and why so few are giving him the benefit of the doubt. Violence at rallies, donald trump talking about how he wants to punch a protester in the face, joking about how he can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and not whos votes. Saying get him out of here. Protesters should be roughed up. This is a protester in fayette ville, where donald trump was yesterday. Who punched a protester in the face. So violence has followed this campaign throughout and donald trump has done very little to push back on it. And while he hasnt condoned violence, he hasnt expressly condemned it either. Well keep trying bore through this. Thank you. Trump is about to talk. Was trumps comment about Second Amendment people just a joke . Here is Rudolph Giuliani yesterday explaining those comments. So the clinton people, so the clinton people, this is how corrupt they are. From their days back in arkansas, they were corrupt. This is how corrupt they are. They spin out that what he meant was, it was a joke. What he meant by that was that they would kill her. Well, the former aide Corey Lewandowski has this to say. This was a joke that he made during a rally. This was not serious. He wasnt inciting violence. And last night, speaker paul
ryan offered this smangs. It sounds like a joke gone bad. I hope he clears it up very quickly. You should never joke about something mike. Joining me, Rudolph Giuliani. Youre laughing but this is not, to people like you. Your usual set of normal people, lewandowski, although he has been removed from his position, he is still with the candidate. Is it a bad joke . What was he saying . Once he is elected, there is nothing we can do about it. Of course, the Second Amendment people may be able to do something about it. What did he mean . I can tell you exactly what he meant. I was with him the entire thing. He men they should vote against it. Ill tell you how that i know. When the speech was over, no one thought anything wrong was said. We went to the air may not. We got a call on the air may not from the Trump Campaign. And they said clinton people, the clinton spin machine, which we all know exists, was trying to sell to the press the idea that what he meant was that they should somehow kill Hillary Clinton. Donald trump said that that, ill use better language but he said thats not true. I didnt mean that at all. I never said that. And then he went back over his comments and he said, what i meant by that was they should vote against it. This is a madeup story, chris. It is completely why did he say so clearly that once she is in office, there is nothing we can do about it except the Second Amendment people. Then he went back and made a further comment suggesting that maybe, because of the power of the nra and the Second Amendment people, particularly in the swing states like pennsylvania and ohio, maybe they can stop her from being president. Thats what he meant. Wait, wait. Im not working for the clintons. I can tell you. That there is no history of me mr. Mayor, there is no history of me ever working for the clintons. So i dont know what that means. Youre saying a person watching that speech yesterday couldnt get idea that maybe he meant put your guns to work here . If they got the idea and he tells you, that isnt what i meant. Look, Hillary Clinton during the campaign against barack obama said she would remain in the campaign because, well, lets remember. Robert kennedy was assassinated. I know. So tell me was not more insensitive and that didnt disqualify her from being president of the United States. Youre turning the attention on hillary. Today she proved that she ran a state department that was pay for may. I could indict her in about three weeks for what she did with the Clinton Foundation and the state department. Were talking about hundreds of
millions of dollars. This corrupt woman was getting and what youre playing is a remark that wasnt meant in the way it is being interpreted. Speaker of the house, the republican speaker of the house takes it as a bad joke. He shouldnt have done it. He shouldnt have used it. So in other words, the speaker of the house. Another person interpreting the candidate is Corey Lewandowski who has been working with him for over a year. That guy has it wrong. So all the people, middle of the road. People least leaning the direction of donald trump dont read at this time way you do. Im telling that you the Clinton Campaign is deflecting all of you away from the fact fwifgt story of the day is what has happened with the Clinton Foundation and the state department. The Clinton Foundation is a racketeering enterprise to enrich the clintons and the state department has become a pay for play operation underHillary Clinton. That is outrageous. Totally outrageous. Mr. Mayor, two minutes more on trumps problems. Then three minutes on hillary. Ill give you more time on hillary. Trumps defenders have could not seateded, his words were poorly chosen yesterday that this Second Amendment crack. Lets watch. It was awkwardly phrased though. It may have been awkwardly phrased. He talks aggressively to the people and i think that is healthy. Instead of hiding like Hillary Clinton does. Youre treating many trumps words like he is the most articulate person who ever graced our world series his words. Thats not true. He is not a politician. He is not a person like hue is very well spoken. He is a business person. He misspeaks a lot because he doesnt speak for a living. He should not have said it. I dont think he even fully appreciated what he was saying. What do you mean by an over
the shoulder comment . What was he referring to . I dont know. I dont know if donald trump does. The incident reminds me of something. I have a long political memory and you do, too. Remember this speech in 1964, the Democratic Convention . It was given to a great person. He said i never forgot this line. What does the republican candidate, goldwater at the time, choose to mean at any given moment . This world cannot wait until saturday to learn what he men when he spoke on monday. The man in the white house doesnt have the luxury of a second choice. He has to be try it first time. What is this problem over and over again, people like yourself, loyal people have to go back and explain trump over and over again when he makes these comments . Do you think it is all the Clinton Campaign . I believe you attack him mercilessly and you leave Hillary Clinton alone. The much bigger story today is
how she sold out the state department. How so . For the Clinton Foundation. Explain how she did it . By taking money into the Clinton Foundation in the millions and in some cases, the hundreds of millions of dollars. 1. 2 million speaking fees on bill clinton and then her, and her acolytes, huma abedin, paying huge amounts of money to get money to the lebanese ambassador to get uranium for russia, in order to get ubs off the hook from a case in which the irs was trying to get ubss secret bank accounts, and Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, called them and said, go easy on them. Thats right after, or right before bill clinton got a 1. 2 million speaking fee by the way, their joint filers, joint tax payers. I could indict them. If i were the u. S. Attorney under 18 usc section 701, which is the conflict of interest section, if i have it right. In a minute and i believe, you give me enough time. Could i develop a racketeering enterprise case on the Clinton Foundation. It is a foundation found to be a completely useless Charitable Organization about 10 going to charity and about 90 going to the clinton people, including the clintons. Thats a much bigger story. Can i ask you a professional question . What is more professionally snaeg defending giuliani defending donald trump . Or attacking Hillary Clinton . What is more satisfying . What is more satisfying is defending donald trump. I dont think so. I know he is a good man and i believe Hillary Clinton from the day she was a bagman for bill
clinton, the rose law if i recall, is crooked. I believe she is dishonest and she is someone as a u. S. Attorney, i am outraged is running for presid you never said any of this back during the days of 9 11 and everything you were working together arm in arm and you were working together quite well. You said a lot of good things about each other. Now since it is a partisan arena, she is no good. Where did that come from . When did you come one this verdict on Hillary Clinton . Ive been pointing out the crimes she committed for the last two years, if you paid attention, chris. Because i had no idea she broke her promise that she wouldnt be involved with the Clinton Foundation when she became secretary of state. Noticed idea of that back then when she was senator from new york. By the wearing she wasnt a heck of a good senator. I never relied on her for anything i always went to chuck schumer. All she was doing was running for president. When i was mayor of new york, the senators i relied were moynihan, dematto and schumer. She got things done for new york. She went around making speeches, promising jobs in upstate new york which are now falling apart because of her ridiculous energy policies. She did get reelected. How did that happen . Because this is a Democratic State and they would reelect a democrat in jail in some cases. I think we actually in our history have done that. I want to ask you a question. Do you wish you had run against her . Hey, you cant redo history, right . Do you wish now that you ran against her . If she is so terrible for new york, do you we shall you had run against her . The only way i will feel guilty that this is if this woman who should be prosecuted. Because nobody is above the law. If this woman becomes president of the United States, i will probably feel like maybe god gave me Prostate Cancer at the wrong time. You did have a shot at her. Thank you, mayor. It would have been a hell of a
race between you and hillary. Maybe you can still get in this race. Thank you. Well have more about newly released clinton emails. Up next, reaction to trumps comments and what the mayor said tonight in his defense. This will only get worse for he and his party. Only one in five republicans wants trump to get out of the race. 1 in 5 telling pollsters, get out. Also, another round. Theres no signs it is together letting up soon. From mocking a disabled reporter to saying women should be punished for having abortions. Donald trump has had to clarify something controversial that he said and he had to keep explaining it. Remember what john said, the world cant wait until saturday to learn what the republican candidate meant on monday. Finally, let me finish by asking what donald trump thinks about
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