Director praised clinton as highly qualified for the presidency. His other reason for backing her is what he called his alarm over the prospect of the donald trump presidency. He said, trump is not only unqualified for the job he may well pose a threat to our national security. He went on to suggest that slads mere putin sees trump as exploitable. We will say that mr. Putin recruited him as an whiting agent of the russian federation. Pointing to trumps temperament has been a major theme of the democrats this year. Imagine him in the oval Office Facing a real crisis, a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with Nuclear Weapons. Yes, i think the republican nominee is unfit to serve as president. I said so last week and, he keeps on proving it. I think i was right and mitt romney and john mccain were wrong on certain policy issues. I never thought that they couldnt do the job. Well, tonight the Clinton Campaign debuted a new ad quoting conservative skritices of trump. Hes too dangerous to be president. If he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i will be very frightened. Hes been talking about the option of using a Nuclear Weapon against our western european allies. This is not somebody that should be handed the nuclear codes. You have to ask yourself of that temperament in control of nuclear codes, and as of now i have to say. How wee jackson is in Green Bay Wisconsin where johnson is expected to endorse paul ryan tonight. Im joined by mike murphy and valerie, a former covert cia officer who is a surrogate for Hillary Clinton. Thank you for coming on tonight. I want you to take the time thanks for having me, chris. The Nuclear Weapons and how the president of the United States has the nuclear football, the codes for using to deciding on whether to launch those missiles which hasnt been done since the days of harry truman when we had the two bombs over japan. What do you think about trump as the commander in chief as nuclear age. The notion is absolutely terrifying. Its august now. People are at the beach, but i think they are sort of seeing this through the clouds of their vacation. His temperament simply is not up to it as has been said. Hes a man who provoked by 140 characters. Thats not the sort of temperament you need. You have about 12 minutes when you, as the president , when you were born that theres a possibility of incoming nuclear attack. Within that time, you have to determine if its accurate and how to respond, do you absorb the first attack or launch on warning, is what its call, you immediately give the signal and our Nuclear Weapons arsenal is launched. And trump time and again on this issue and so many others has shown not only his ignorance but his rashness. Do you think he has an itchy trigger finger . I think he hasnt really thought much about it, chris. He sort of answers on the fly. In an old interview he said he could learn everything he needs to know about the our whole Nuclear Posture in an hour. Hes such a good negotiator. And i he has said so many things, you never know what his statement is accept that maybe its kind of true in his head at that moment. They include, as i think in your interview, that he said first of all, well, you know, sort of so what if other nations get Nuclear Weapons, i think he was referring to japan. He didnt take off the table the idea of using Nuclear Weapons in europe. It is very important for the president to be very careful of how they speak about either the use or nonuse of Nuclear Weapons. He clearly thinks hes smarter than anybody else, including Vladimir Putin and i agree with merrells assessment, he is, in fact putin is manipulating trump for his own purposes. Let me ask you about something we all wonder about occasionally, we know the president carries the codes with him, its called the nuclear football. Can he declare a launch by his own say so in. Yeah. He can. If the secretary of defense says no, what happens then . Yes. What happens . Well, this, you know, the constitution says, as you know, that only congress has the power to declare war. But theres no question that the president and the president alone has this incredible responsibility of declaring nuclear war. There have been cases notably when nixon in the waiting days of water gate when he was drinking too heavily, the secretary of defense and secretary of state sort of quietly put out the word to the Nuclear Command control, that, you know, the orders needed to go through them first. Its not very clear. Its not made public exactly how that goes, but it the possibility of an accident is already so high, do you want to put it in the hands of someone like donald trump. Well, this afternoon donald trump tried to flip the scrip, you might say he called Hillary Clinton unhinged and unfit to be president. Lets watch. Unstable, Hillary Clinton, lacks the judgment, temperament and moral character to lead this country. Shes a dangerous liar. Shes really pretty close to unhinged. And youve seen it. Youve seen it a couple of times. But people in the background know it. The people that know her know it. And shes like an unbalanced person. Hillary central role around the dominant islamic power that they are today in the middle east, proves that she is totally unfit to lead. Well, let me go to howy jackson, it looks to me hes translating from some other language, who is reading them those words. He has words like unhinged, unfit, and hes looking trying to get somebody has decided to script him with this, eyou know, it for at the. Why is he doing this and who is telling him to read that script . Look, first of all look at the language, you talk about the language hes using. Its language that the Democrats Use against donald trump, its a bit of the im rubber youre u glue. He believes this is going to be efl effective line of attack. He comes out in on teenage, he is hitting Hillary Clinton and he is hitting president obama. He also called, by the way, the queen of corruption, you know whose words those were, donald trump liked it and caught his imagination, hes unvailing this time. Lapage said, this week, that she had a talk with donald trump about being more disciplined. Coming from paula page thats kind of interesting, i do think it shows that trump knows he needs to be more on message and i will tell you, he is telling his top advisers, not only, a that he knows what hes doing, but he knows what he has to do and thats continue to go after clinton and make sure the spotlight stays on her. I think thats what youre going to see tonight in green bay after this we expect an endorsement of paul ryan which is significant. It is a backtrack for him. That is something that we rarely see from this cabinet. Mike murphy, i cant wait to see for you, i want to presage what you see, when you bring wild ideas to lapage to trump, youre its funny wild ideas already, hes stocking up on them from lapage, this is really a wild week. What do you make of this . You once said to me, i asked you what was the heart of darkness, what is the real reason you wont back him, his ignorance of Foreign Policy. Im no trump defender and i cant vote for him. I dont think he has the judgment or training to be commander in chief, out shopping for crazy things to say like its open mic night is a trumbulling sign. I think were going too far on the nuclear button. I dont think he would be jabbing at the desk trying to launch our deter rent. I think its a more every day problem that he does not understand Foreign Policy and his impulsive fly by the seat of his pants style can get him into trouble. Hes been the first president in decades to try to stabilize the Nato Alliance which is one of the foundations of our whole strategy. I dont think he understands nuclear deter rens which is threat. Theyre not center blocks or Building Materials you dont have to use them to have an effect. I asked him about using them, lets what he actually said. Look, nuclear should be off the toubl, but will there be a time it could be used. The trouble when you say that, the japanese, theyre hearing a guy running talk maybe using Nuclear Weapons, nobody wants to use that. Why do we make them . I will be the last one to use them. Its like the end of the world. Can you tell the middle east were not using them. Im not going to take it off the table. No, i dont think so. Ill never use them in europe. I am not taking cards off the table. Valerie, here is the question, you know what weapons we have, you know what we think and what its all about, what would be the advantage in terms of telling the europeans, who are all our allies, that we might use the weapon over there, the Nuclear Weapon in europe, what would be the need to keep that on the table. Well, you know, sometimes even a blind pig finds the acorn and trump actually hit it right on, whats why do we have Nuclear Weapons if were not going to use them, which is the broader question of our whole nuclear program. I am a Firm Believer that now Nuclear Weapons in the 21st century do not make us safer. Hes just saying whatever comes into his mind in the moment and you know it. He can change at a whim. He hasnt hes simply, just like your other guest said, he simply does not have the knowledge, the background, nor the discipline to even learn about this, to understand whats the difference between nuclear use, nuclear dete rens policy and you speak about these things without the other World Leaders having their hair on fire on this. Go ahead michael, and then howie. Everything is negotiating a parking lot deal so hes confusing Nuclear Weapons with tactics rather tennessee strategic person which is the freeze you dont use Nuclear Weapon because of the derer rent of t deter rent. Its a big thing. Hes totally ignorant of any of it so it scares the mel of out people when he throws terms like this around. Back to you, a lot of people, including me, are always hopeful. Weve watched people who behaved much more moderately than a lot of his critics did believe. People on the left and center left, reagan turned out to be one of our great president s, people dont like hearing that, look at the list. And then, what shatters that with regard to trump is, he got the nomination of the Republican Party and hasnt changed a whip from the guy out there duking it out with 16 other opponents. He hasnt adjusted to the fact hes the party nominee. One of the two people thats probably our next president. That shatters the idea he will change if he gets innaug rated, doesnt it. Here is the thing i will say to potentially rebut that, and that is this, for months after he became the presumptive nominee, i believe it was may 5, he continued to relitigate the primaries talk about his primary opponents why arent you focusing on Hillary Clinton when she was still locked in that battle with bernie sanders, what did he say at the time, it was my campaign doesnt real le begin until after the convention. Whether you buy into that line or not, thats some insight into Donald Trumps psyche and why there are still some who are hopeful who continue to have to ternl optimism and turned into the general election, could, maybe change. I will tell you this, toorks i think one thing you hear from folks who come to these rallies, these are people out, you know, talking to people, one thing you hear, hes not going to do that, necessarily. That is something ive heard, they know when they hear this talk about Nuclear Weapons no wall. You know, they say well, you know here is the thing, they like what he portrays, what he symbolizes, even if they dont agree with the policies hes talking about. For them its a gamble, they believe its a gamble that will pay offer. You cover him so well. Hal hally, jackson. Coming up is donald trump stumbles some are taking good hard look at the libertarian ticket this year, former Massachusetts Governor bill well could have real impact on the ball ballot. Plus, inside the newest poll numbers and its a dire picture, hes losing ground with virtually Democratic Group in our new nbc poll. 1 , youve got all the numbers coming up. Rare back and forth Hillary Clinton was asked questions about her trump, email and why many voters dont trust her. Some cases the answers were disturbing. Let me finish where this president ial campaign has landed, on the nuclear issue, this is hardball place for politics. Business. From our blog to video editing. Our technology has to hang tough with us. When youre going to a place without electricity, you need a long battery life. The touch, combined with the screen resolution. A mac doesnt have that. We wanted to help more people get out there and see the world. Once you take that leap, thats where the magic happens. A collection for the look of every eye concern. Introducing new olay eyes. Lift depuff brighten smooth or ultimately all of it. Eyes express every emotion, not your age. New olay eyes. Ageless. 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This years ticket features two former republican governors, new mexicos gary john and bill welt of massachusetts according to latest nbc, paul, Hillary Clinton leads by nine points and green Party President qualifying at 5. A candidate must have a level of support of at least 15 of the National Electorate opinion poll organization selected by the commission of governor debates. Any way, gary johnson has an average of 8 supporting him, according to real clear politics polling averages join me right now is the former governor gary johnson and his running mate, the wellknown popular governor of massachusetts bill welt. A couple of things, are you going to make 15 and is 15 a fair measure whether you should get into National Debates . We know if you get in, anything can happen, if you dont it wont, your thoughts, governor . Well, you hit it on the head and, yeah weve got some serious momentum were believing we will be in the National Debates. By all of our analytics things are picking up dramatically, double in the amount of people looking what were saying and doing, thats over the last few weeks. Really i your your numbers have stayed about high Single Digits for weeks now, why do you say its changing. Ive been looking at 8s and 9s for a long time now. Chris, i believe that you think thats the case, but from our vantage point, really, its racheting up and, you know, fox poll here just a couple of days ago at 12 . You know bottom numbers if you go back six weeks ago were 6 , top numbers now are 13. So, you know, different viewpoint here. Let me go to governor not making it up. We can argue. Doesnt bother me. Let me ask the governor, what happens to 14. 9 and you dont quite make it to 15, is that fair . Would you walk away and say thats the way it works . You know, chris, im pretty sure i can feel it in my bone were going to get there. It feels different out there, were getting incoming calls from Republican Office holders, im thinking of endorsing you guys. Im thinking of announcing. The ice is really cracking and i think people are coming to realize that the problem in this country right now is not so much an economic problem as a political problem and the monopoly of power in washington between the two parties is starting to behave the way monopoly always does, choking off creativity, absolute power corrupts, and it corrupts in a strong way. And the parties almost seem to exist for the purpose of killing each other. We think if we drive the car right up the middle of the road, were physically responsible and that describes about 6 0 of the american people, most of whom dont know who we are. And when they learn more and more about who we are, i think youre going to see those figures escalate dramatically, if were able to pick up some prominent endorsements from republicans or middle of the road or even democrats that will accelerate the figures more. If we golf into mid september with 20, 25 , i firmly believe anything can happen. Well, thats possible. Let me ask you about the possibility of being a spoiler. We all know what happened ralph nader back in 2004, threw it to florida many would argue, its a w, are you afraid on the left you might take votes away from the left and take votes from the right and throw it to the other side as well, governor johnson.