Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160630

Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160630

Short one, a vacation come summer. Trump says we are getting hammered by china and everyone else because of stinking trade deals because we have weaker, stupid or whatever people making them. He promises to change all this, to start kicking some butt and start shoving back. Lets watch him. Americas lost nearly onethird of its manufacturing jobs since 1997. This is america we are talking about. Since 1997. Driven by these two, Hillary Clinton understood and backed and bill clinton certainly as the president initiatives. They are a disaster. And now they want to go into tpp, Transpacific Partnership. That will make nafta in my opinion look like a baby. Now, we dont play the game the way they play the game. They play the game to win. We play the game in this country to survive. We are going to Start Playing the game to win. Well, the two most pressing concerns for Many Americans right now are terror, of course, and the economy. Donald trump says he has answers to both. Hes going to renegotiate trade deals and get tough with china and hes going to take the gloves off against isis. He says the countrys falling apart, that we have even worse to fear from Hillary Clinton. The Transpacific Partnership is another disaster. Done and pushed by special interests. Who want to rape our country, just the continuing rape of our country. Hillary clinton unleesashed trade war against the American Worker when she supported one terrible deal after another. You will be hurt worse than ever before if she becomes president. Isis was created during the Hillary Clinton regime. If she gets in, it will be massive and we wouldnt even have a country anymore. We will be afraid to walk outside. They are letting tens of thousands of people come in from syria and nobody knows who these people are. A lot of those people are isis. Nbcs Hallie Jackson is in manchester, new hampshire. Is trump back on beam, back on some sort of message thats consistent economic nationalism . Is he back on that . Reporter you know, i think he is. When you look at where he has been in his speeches and his remarks all week long about this, starting at the beginning of the week when he went to pennsylvania, western p. A. , and delivered that forceful trade speech in which he outlined trade policies in many respects a split from some from his party when it comes to tpp, nafta, he got into the war of words with the chamber of commerce. He kept at it again in maine, listing sort of the action steps he wants to take if he were to become president. We heard it again from him here today here in manchester focusing on trade, on the economy, and really taking swipes at Hillary Clinton. He at one point said that it was him, he took credit for Hillary Clintons reversal when it came to tpp saying that she heard a speech of his and then changed her mind after that. I think the clinton team would push back on that. Clinton herself said that learning more about the trade agreement is what caused her role reversal or shift in position. But this is something trump has been hitting hard every single day this week just about. Hes even said theres nothing closer to his heart than trade right now. So no more craziness this week . Can you say that . He isnt talking about mexicans or judges. Reporter that wasnt your question. The question was has he kept up his focus on trade and the economy, which he has. But look at some of the other comments he made. Even here just in manchester he made a joke that kind of raised eyebrows, a plane flew overhead and he said its a mexican plane, they are coming to attack us. He was clearly kidding but it still raised a few eyebrows. He talks about Elizabeth Warren again and again. Hes doubled down on his attacks against her for claims she exaggerated her heritage, including just this morning when he told an interviewer that he believes, he was again joking here, but saying he has more native american blood than Elizabeth Warren does. He hasnt totally backed away from controversial comments. Thats why you are seeing comments on the gop from people like mitt romney and mike lee. Thank you, hallie. Donald trump talks tough on trade and outsourcing jobs, talks about that all the time. The New York Times reports such declarations are at odds with mr. Trumps long history as a businessman in which he has been heavily and proudly reliant on foreign labor in the name of putting profits rather than america first. From cheap neckties to Television Sets, mr. Trump has benefited from some of the trade practices he now scorns. The aflcio has a new video pounding trump on exactly that theme. Where are the shirts made . Bangladesh. Im going to instruct the u. S. Trade representative to bring trade cases against china. Where are the ties made . They are great ties. Made where . China . Ties are made in china. In, in, in the united states. Thats a pretty snappy ad there. Lets talk about this. You guys, you dont like tpp. Hillary now doesnt like it. Bernie sanders doesnt like it. Trump doesnt like it. Distinguish your opposition. You guys are tough on trade. I worked with labor democrats all my life. I know the attitude about the kennedy round ever since then. Its been this trade stuff is screwing us, right . Right. It has. Theres a reason for that. We have lost jobs, lost ground with every trade trumps right . He is right on that. But hes a fraud. Talk about it. Trump was the chief cheerleader and beneficiary of the trade policies until he discovered that out in the hinterlands of pennsylvania and ohio, this is a powerful issue. Now he flips over and is against trade. Hes got the right position right now but nobody believes him, because look what he does. You saw those products. Shirts made in bangladesh, ties made in china, Television Sets made overseas. Then he has taught a course at his university, defunct university, and said outsourcing is great, outsourcing creates jobs. So he will say or do anything that needs to be said or done to help himself. Lets look at this. In the latest nbc news wall street journal poll, the one we use here, he had a big lead among white voters without a college degree, beating clinton among that group. 54 to 31 . How is trump doing among Union Workers . Dennis williams, president of the United Auto Workers said in may an internal poll of his members showed trump getting 28 support from trahe rank and fil there. What do you think it is . Among you guys . The Huge International union and all the internationals, youre laughing but what is trump doing . A third . A quarter . It would be less than that. Hes absolutely tapped into the frustration and anger thats out there. Its justifiable frustration and anger but hes a fraud. Because he says one thing but benefits look, hillary is a great candidate in many respects but on the trade issue, a year ago, i saw bill clinton in japan supporting the tpp. Hillary clinton, look at this. Earlier this week, the Republican National committee blasted out this 2012 video of Hillary Clinton, then secretary of state, praising the tpp, a deal she now is against. Watch her in australia. This tpp sets the Gold Standard in trade agreements to open free transparent fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field. Gold standard. Now its not the Gold Standard. What happened . You trust her . We said the same thing. We said the same thing about tpp. We hope it sets the Gold Standard. We hope it is the Gold Standard. We hope tpp does the same thing. When you look at the details, it wasnt a Gold Standard. It was more like a lead standard that would sink every one of us. So she did the right thing. She said this agreement you think she didnt change her mind . Of course she did. But heres the smart thing. You have a trade agreement that doesnt work. Its going to hurt people. Its going to lose jobs. So what she said is, this doesnt work. Trump was a cheerleader for that same trade. Youre not accusing him of changing his position. Im trying to think out this democratic ticket. Tim kaine has had bad press the last few hours. He may well get by it. Im looking at Sherrod Brown. I think hes a perfect running mate. I have been saying it for a year. Ohio has kind of a tough guy atmosphere about him, hes an ivy leaguer but doesnt play it up too big. He seems like a regular labor guy. Hes one of your guys. Great guy. Hes a champion of working people. Wouldnt he be a great running mate . Great running mate. Theres one down side to it. If he left you have a republican governor. You have to think big here. Got to go for the mandate. Not squeak it out one vote at a time. I agree about that but i think he would make a great ticket. Hillary needs a great ticket, not just her. Got to put that thing together. Like biden. Wasnt biden great . Think about it. He is. Chilling how good hes been as a vp. Totally loved guy. Lot of people would like to see him as president. Thank you. You get me in a good mood. I like this labor feel. President obama has been making it clear hes not going to let donald trump claim the mantle of populist champion without a fight. Lets watch. Somebody else who has never shown any regard for workers, in fact, has worked against Economic Opportunity for workers and ordinary people, they dont suddenly become a populist because they Say Something controversial in order to win votes. Thats nativism. Or xenophobia. Mr. Trump embodies and of course has taken full advantage of it, his entire life so hes hardly a spokesperson for a legitimate spokesperson for a populist surge from working class people on either side of the atlantic. People navarro is professor at the university of california irvine and economics advisor to donald trump. Let me ask about this, professor. When did donald trump become an antitrade warrior . When did he decide we got to fight these trade deals . Do you know . Go back to the clip on oprah. Its a classic. Chris, you ought to be having a flashback here, a page right out of your book, tipping the gipper. Remember early 80s we cut this trade deal with japan and all they did was cheat on it and the next thing you know, tip and the Democratic Congress is pushing on reagan, pushing, lets have some tariffs. You know what . Reagan imposed tariffs on japan. He was a free trader like trump is, but reagan also understood that fair trade was more important and we got a good result. Thats where trump is. Reagan also got 2 million the minute he left office from the japanese. Remember that . 2 million in speaking fees for one trip right after coming out of office. Donald trump is going to run the table with organized labor and with nonunion labor. Think about this. How about in his private business . Has he been consistent . Aflcio opposed the World Trade Organization entry. Aflcio opposed south korea trade deal. Hillary clinton supported all those. Her husband chimed in and thats why theres this disconnect. The rank and file are going to go in droves. It will be reagan democrats all over again. It will be over half of organized labor voting for donald trump because they understand this billionaire has their interests at heart. Every time somebody wants the working guy to vote for him, they drop their gs . Theyre not going to be voting for him, they will be votin for him. We can go to cleveland or new jersey or new york, we all speak funny. Its not the kings english. I dont have a trump here. Do you want to respond to this . This guy basically says he agrees with you on trade policy but doesnt agree with your candidate. If you actually believe that our members are going to vote in overwhelming numbers for trump, i have a u. S. Made trump tie i will sell you cheap. I will take that, richard. Heres the thing, richard. I understand your decision was tough. You guys had a choice to make. But donald trump has a platform that you guys are dreaming about. He is taking every step hes a fraud. The aflcio has ever recommended hes a fraud. The president to take. Well, that may be. We are going to find out. Your workers doesnnt believe h a fraud. Im trying to follow your thinking here, sir. Donald trumps a guy thats going to actually follow through. Hes not beholden to special interests like Hillary Clinton. Im sure hes going to follow through. I dont want to take you, professor, but if you were one of my students, you said it may be that hes a fraud. What do you mean . You just said it may be that trumps a fraud. What did you mean by that . Heres what i mean. Trumpka says hes a fraud. Were going to find out. My view is your workers dont think hes a fraud. I dont think hes a fraud which is why im supporting him. Heres the thing. Hes different from any politician we have ever had running for president in the last 50 years. He can fund his own campaign. Let me ask you hes not beholden to let me get back to let me ask you this. Hows the market doing now . We have numbers that look okay. The markets about where its been. It hasnt jumped too much because of brexit. We have a 4. 7 Unemployment Rate technically. What do you think in this country right now . What grade would you give it right now economically . How we doing . If you are in Donald Trumps shoes, you are getting an aplus. Economys great for him. If you are a worker, those hes trying to woo and give fraudulent products to, you give him ccminus. We had flat wages for over four decades. He says wages are too high. Richard trumpka is giving Donald Trumps speech. If you look at the speech in new hampshire, thats exactly what donald trump said. [ speaking simultaneously ] no growth in wages, no growth in the economy and people sitting on the sidelines, 20 Million People want a job at a decent wage. Donald trump is the guy who will bring prosperity and wealth back to america. I learned one thing. By cracking down on trade cheaters. What more could you ask for, really . Its really right in the center of what workers in this country need. Its interesting, gentlemen, no one is defending the way things are in this country. Thats probably a healthy situation. Its a terrible situation, chris. Thank you. Professor peter navarro, thank you for joining us. Thank you, richard. Coming up, new polling shows trump losing ground among some republicans. Hes picking fights with his former rivals, the guys that ran against him. Now senator mike lee of utah, a close ally of ted cruz, is going off on an epic attack against his partys pick for president. That would be donald trump. With the Republican Convention less than three weeks away, can trump reunite the fractured party . Doesnt look like it. Plus big developments as clinton and trump look for running mates for the democrats. Does tim kaines disclosure he accepted gifts make him too much of a liability for secretary clinton . For the republicans, could trump be zeroing in on here it comes, Chris Christie . Can he cross that bridge . Lots of news on that front ahead. The hardball roundtable is here. They will tell me something i dont know about this president ial race. Let me finish with this Vice President ial hunting season we are in. It is something. Its all going to happen this month. Its in the quiet moments when you see why she does this. For hillary, its always been about kids. And when millions couldnt get health care, this first lady worked with republicans and democrats to fix it. Creating the Childrens Health insurance program, so that every child gets the health care that child deserves to have. Now eight million kids are covered. Thats the kind of leader she is. And the kind of president shell be. Im Hillary Clinton and i approve this message. Did your 22page insuranceand you nepolicy say, great news. Youre covered . No. It said, blah blah blah blah. The Liberty Mutual app with coverage compass makes it easy to know what youre covered for and what youre not. Liberty mutual insurance. Think yotry nexium 24hr. s best for your heartburn . Now the 1 choice of doctors pharmacists. For their own frequent heartburn. Get complete protection with nexium 24 hour. Donald trump campaigned today in new hampshire, a traditional swing state. Yesterday he was up in maine which hasnt voted for a republican since 1988. One reason trump went to maine is because its one of only two states in the country that split their electoral votes by congressional district, meaning trump could lose the state but pick up an electoral vote there. The other state that does that, nebraska. Coincidentally, the Clinton Campaign went up with ads in omaha today, hoping to snag that electoral vote in an otherwise red state. My hope is that hes beginning to pivot and become what i would call a more serious and credible candidate for the highest office in the land. That was Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell yesterday expressing his reservations about donald trump. Less than three weeks until the convention for the republicans, his comments reflect the concerns of his fellow lawmakers, many of whom are still hesitant, thats putting it lightly, to lend their full support to their partys nominee. As senator dean heller of nevada told politico today, im opposed to this campaign. He did a lot of damage. Its very difficult for him. As far as im concerned, to recover from his previous xhebts. Comments.

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