Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160602

Transcripts For MSNBCW Hardball With Chris Matthews 20160602 23:00:00

Long live the king. Until tomorrow, we say to you, sayanora. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. Hillarys verdict on trump, youre fired. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. Yesterday Hillary Clinton called donald trump a fraud who will scam the people of this country. Today in major speech on Foreign Policy, secretary clinton landed her most penetrating attacks on trump yet saying the republican nominee is dangerous to Americas National security. Donald trumps ideas arent just different. They are dangerously incoherent. Theyre not even really ideas. Just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and out right lies. He is not just unprepared, he is tempermentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility. This is not someone who should ever have the Nuclear Codes because its not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. Throughout the speech secretary clinton cited his own words that hes liable to do anything as president. He actually said, and i quote, maybe syria should be a free zone for isis. Oh, okay. Let a terrorist group have control of major country in the middle east. Then he said we should send tens of thousands of american Ground Troops to the middle east to fight isis. He also refused to rule out Nuclear Weapons against isis, which would mean mass civilian casualties. Its clear he doesnt have a clue what hes talking about, so we cant be certain which of these things he would do, but we can be certain hes capable of doing any or all of them. In response donald trump tweeted bad performance by crooked Hillary Clinton. Reading poorly from the teleprompter. She doesnt even look president ial. The latest National Poll by nbc in the wall street journal shows that Foreign Policy is a vulnerability for donald trump. 56 of the voters picked clinton. Just 29 trump. Also today, House Speaker paul ryan came around to endorsing donald trump saying he would vote for him. Heres what he wrote today after 29 days of deliberation and numerous meetings with the candidate. Through these conversations i feel confident he would help us turn ideas into agenda. Thats why im voting for him this fall. Let me ask you about this. How powerful is it . How important is what she did today . It was powerful. It was scathing. It was unbelievable scathing. Were in early june and shes questioning the Mental Health of the presumptive nominee. I cant remember a campaign where do you go in october . Shes now doing the goldwater playbook. Shes come a long way. Antigoldwater. This is lbj. This is saying if you vote for this man he will cause a nuclear war because hes not only thin skinned but mentally unstable. It was very powerful. What would be interesting to see if trump has a substantial response to this. What she didnt do, obviously, was talk about her own record. Thats a vulnerability. Others could have given this speech. Marco rubio could have given it. It was a general antitrump speech. Back in 64, barry goldwater, who a lot of people liked. They did some shrinks to prove he have nuts. He said leave it of when to use Nuclear Weapons. Thats what gave the reputation of an itchy trigger finger. Trump is now getting that same treatment from hillary. He is getting that treatment. I think it was a solid, strong speech on Foreign Policy. She showed shes capable of engaging in a street fight while appealing for cool heads all around. As we saw from the polls about the percentage of people that thinks she will handle Foreign Policy better, shes still only addressing an audience that likes her. She has said she wants to reach out to the moderate, thoughtful republicans. You can only do that if you connect the issues of Foreign Policy with the economy and why america, as a world leader is important for your jobs here at home. I agree with kim. I think she made a call today. Im now going to take on and try to bring in the right. Im going to forget Bernie Sanders. This speech, Bernie Sanders could have never given. She was talking about intervention and duty. She did a remarkable charge. Will a republican in the burbs go for this . How many heard this speech and absorbed it realtime as she was delivering it . That matters. You make the point of doing it now versus october. Thats a big difference. Folks are focused on graduation and a lot of different things. Doesnt take away from the speech. What they now have to do, the clinton team is go out and really drill it down to your point, connect it to Something Real for the blue collar, suburban, moderate voters. I think she wants to do that. The question is, she still has a lot of baggage that was not addressed in her own Foreign Policy shortcomings. I was on the carter plane writing speeches when losing to reagan. Were still trying to win. Carter said this is a decision between piece and war. He said do he really say that. The idea was to hold that. You hold your conclusive summation until the end. Do you keep saying that for sick months that this guy is frightening . Can you do that . Im not sure they have made that calculation yet. They have known shes been on the defensive on these issues related to libya and iraq. They thought lets pivot. Were going to go on offense and turn this up. If youre the Hillary Clinton campaign are you really thinking about your october Foreign Policy speech central or saying i got to get out of defense. Trump was hitting her on those issues. He will continue hitting her hard. Clinton slammed trump for saying he would target the families of suspected terrorists citing the bin laden raid by her as the fight against terrorism should be waged. It matters when he says hell order our military to murder the families of suspected terrorists. During the raid to kill bin laden, when every second counted, our seals took the time to move the women and children in the compound to safety. Donald trump may not get it, but thats what honor looks like. I dont know how much sympathy there is out there for the american masses with that point. Its a legitimate point to make. I dont know how much sympathy shes going to get. An honorable point to make but i dont know how much of a sympathy card it plays. She has to turn that one more notch and say, doing that kind of thing, in addition to being against the American Values and against American Military values, also creates more enemies. Thats the point that has to be hammered home. Trump talks about islam. She said that. She said it, but thats a point that has to keep coming again and again. Is that too subtle . Keeping muslims out of country. I dont know how they will check on religion. How do you do that at the airport . Ive always wondered how thats done. Put that aside. Nobody has made the argument, weve had it here, if you want them enemies, thats one way to make them enemies and a lot more people out to get us. She made that argument. She had a slight strange construct to her face where she said donald trump wants to keep a billion muslims out of america. What she was trying to say is you cant simply say theres all these people out there who can bring something to america. Some of them live here. Lets talk politics now. Whos she talking to today . I think shes aiming at the intellectuals who write the oped people. Thank you. This is not a blue collar man speech. She was also talking to the International Diplomatic community. I agree with you. This was a speech for the political elites. This was not for middle america. It was not for Blue Collar Workers in the suburbs. It was not that kind of speech. It was very highbrow. It was important. I dont want to take away from that. The audience was much more narrow than a lot of people try to project it out to be. You know why you do it at daytime and not at nighttime. You have the whole afternoon for the oped writers. Most folks are driving their buses and cabs now. Theyre not watching this speech. I disagree a little bit there. One of the more subtle aspects of this its very much not a barack obama speech either. Why wouldnt obama have given the speech. Obama will always start a speech about Foreign Policy by acknowledging american failings, american mistake. This is a speech that could have been given before the vietnam war. Thats what i think. Barack obama would have shaded this a lot more. Something she signalled, im not sure who she is signaling too. Middle america. What do you mean by shaded . Throw shade on it. Its nuance. Going back to the point i was making in the beginning, this was not a speech for blue collar voters. It was a speech for people who think about Foreign Policy on a daily basis already thinking about these issues. Im sure theres blue collar people that think about Foreign Policy. Sure. No disrespect. She spoke to military families, speak to the military considering the location where she was but also starting the conference about americas role in the world which is something that is on American Voters mind. The way you connect it with jobs in the economy so you want a trade war with china, the price of your ipad will go up. Hillary clinton asked voters to imagine trump in the situation room of the white house. Listen to this. Imagine donald trump sitting in the situation room making life or death decisions on behalf of the united states. Imagine him deciding whether to send your spouses or children into battle. Imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when hes angry but americas entire arsenal. Do we want him making those calls . I have a lot of faith that the American People will make the right decision. This is a country with a deep reservoir of common sense and national pride. Were all counting on that. How does she maintain that line of attack in debates . If she is calling the guy dangerous, somebody like gwen saying you call this man dangerous. Theres two things about that. Someone a buddy of mine said when he heard that is didnt she say the same thing about barack obama. I think that was kind of the clinton line of barack obama. Theres that aspect of it. We heard that before. The other thing is it does go to what youre saying about taking the rhetoric now and transporting it to a president ial stage and a debate. Its a very different situation. That oneonone when its hillary and donald trump and that question comes up from a moderator such as yourself, how she responds in that moment will matter ten times more. This person should not be considered for president. Shes got to maintain that throughout. Beyond attacking donald trump, i think what struck me at the end of her speech was the message of positiveness. This isnt just about the politics of anger. This is positivity and as jeff was saying projecting the idea that america is powerful. We dont need to make it great again. It is still great. Were also forgetting one thing. I think she was trying to goad him into saying something more extreme. I think it was an attempt to humiliate him and put down his intelligence and see where she can get with that. This is the week hes having a tough week because all the reporters and editors have time for enterprising pieces. Theyre piling on this week. Kick him when hes down and see if he reacts. And if it sticks. Hes going to read every word of this. One tweet so far. The tweet wasnt strong. Crooked hillary was reading a teleprompter badly. She read it well, donald. Thank you. Coming up, donald trump is like a street fighter who will fight anyone for a dollar. 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When you start settling cases, you know what happens, everybody sues you because you get known as a settler. One thing about me, im not known as a settler. Welcome back to hardball. Donald trump is a street fighter. Hell fight anyone in the house for a dollar. Hes in a dispute and never backs down from a fight as he just said. His businesses have been involved in 3500 lawsuits. The sheer volume of lawsuits is unprecedented for a president ial nominee. No candidate of major party had anything approaching trumps courtroom entanglements. Verdict, 450 wins, 38 losses. Isnt that what you want for your president. Susan page is Washington Bureau chief of usa today and john braybender. We cant look at his record in government because he hasnt had government jobs. One of the primary tools hes done in striking deals and negotiating in dealing in the Business World is through the courts. Hes quick to sue. He has often sued in turn. Thats one of the most substantive public records we have. What does it say about, ive been in politics on this before. Is there something wrong with being sued . Theres nothing wrong with being sued and nothing wrong with suing somebody. You look at the volume of cases that is extraordinary for people who have businesses like donald trump. You also look at the kind of priorities he sets when he pursues suits. Hes very sensitive about his name, his brand. Hes willing to devote enormous resources to suits that doesnt cost much money. He doesnt give them up. First of all he likes to fight. Some people find that endearing. That want the backbone of the president. Do you like that . I do in some cases. I do think the story was very well done. I think it was very fair but i think theres a context that you have to look at it. The reason its unprecedented to have somebody running for president with this many lawsuits because its unprecedented to have a candidate running for business who has 500 businesses, which is how many there were. If you do the math, thats only three lawsuits where he was sued per business, which has a Small Business person thats not outrageous. I do think, however, it does go to the mind set of donald trump that he is not somebody that settles. This is a guy who will go fight even if its going to cost money. Its going to be up to voters if they think thats admirable or problematic. Hillary clinton said we might find ourselves in a nuclear war because somebody gets under Donald Trumps skin. Temperament and also his instinct is never to compromise, to negotiate, to settle. Its never that. Dont you have to as president . The most successful president s have had coalitions as one of their skills. The history you learn on this show is remarkable. The plane shot down over china and the Korean Airline shot down by the russian army. Russian air force. Reagan didnt go do war over those things. He said well get through it. Well end this cold war. Does trump have that temperament to say im not going to let everything like that take me to war. This is the critical factor. Nobody knows. Its something trump will have to prove in the coming months. Thats a big problem. Theres a huge shift in the Clinton Campaign if you looked at that speech today. Number one if it was a National Drinking game for every time she said trump that we had something, all of us would be under the table and nobody be going to work tomorrow. I bet she said his name 30 times. Second of all shes decided theres two things. Shes going to hit him on womens issues. If we treat women in other co

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