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Gives me a vital status into taking this country in the future. I care about the future because our charlotte and all of the children of her generation are going to be living in it. Joining me to talk about this interesting development, republican strategist john feehry and joan walsh from salon. On twitter she wrote, the some say secretary clintons new Family Status as a grandmother can soften her image and also help her critics with the age issue. Democrats see this rhetoric as somebody cares about if because i have a stake in it. Age is something that people are going to use against her. I think its great to get it out there this way. The way that democrats said that bob dole was lurching around from position to position that way . Both sides can usage, i can admit that. But it is something that people are a little bit afraid of and its a great way of saying, im at this time of my life, i have a granddaughter that i adore and i care. She started with science. It wasnt entirely based on grandmothers know best but she owned it. It was almost like a nursery rhyme. Your view about hillary, al gore once said, not that he was the most successful politician, if you dont define yourself early on, the other guys will. Its unchartered territory. You wrote in a book many years ago, you put a spotlight on your problems. Bobby kennedy said hang a lantern on your problems. One of her biggest problems is shes going to be 70 when she runs and john mccain was that old, when Ronald Reagan was that old. Its an issue that comes up. Youre right, shes trying to define this in the most positive terms. How does it come up . How does it come up . Yeah. Thats a good question. You brought it up. I think republicans are going to have to tread very carefully on this. For them, you have to be able to appeal to that voting bloc, an older woman who votes and many times for republicans. Lets talk about what you just said. Youre a good guy so im not going to jump on you like i normally would but i could argue that you just stepped into a trap. Mitt romney is basically a grandfather. Right. Of many grandchildren. It has never come up that this was a negative. Look at his family there. Look at that. Thats a statement. Thats never been an issue. Jeb bush is a grandparent. The idea that hillary is a grandparent, why would that be a potential negative . Well, im not or age even. Why is her age an issue with her rather than with her peers . Anytime youre around the 70 age barrier, it gets to be an issue and thats just why didnt it ever come up with mitt romney . Hes not running as of a week ago. Hes not near 70. Hes not going to be 70 when he runs. Shes going to be 70. Thats a big age difference there. Hes six months older than her. Let me absorb that, john feehery. He was running a week ago and it never came up. Look, theres a double standard for women. We have Rush Limbaugh telling us, no one wants to watch a woman get old before their eyes. Its clear that we have to endure more scrutiny. Karl rove brought it up in terms of her health. Some of them would be very dignified concerned about her health, does she have the stamina. It was an issue for Ronald Reagan when he ran. Its stamina. Well, rush is on his fourth wife. He got the new model. He just keeps trading them in, youre not stuck with that problem. Sorry. Listen, im not saying its an issue. Im saying, shes trying to define it in a most positive way. I think i do two things go on in politics. One is selfdefinition. You have to define who you are. Right. We are americans. Well start with that. And then we go with im a conservative, a liberal, define it with that, and then what offices have you held . You help the people out here step by step. Im female and im a certain age. Anyway, ross baker presented a different view in usa today on how Democratic Women affect their party. Joan, youve got to jump on this, baby. In 2008, a whole bunch of guys won against Hillary Clinton and one of them beat her. Im glad that youre not intimidated and not letting me suck the oxygen out of the room. Theres still room for male pundits at the table. Chris, come on. Thats ridiculous. The interesting thing about nancy pelosi, no one can beat her as a leader. Shes liberal as the caucus is liberal and raises the most money. Its all about the money. And your party has been knocking off the moderates for years. And i think theres a chance that someone is going to knock off hillary. Whoa. Whoa. Well, to be determined. Im not sure im not sure. It could be john tester. Who knows. Somebody could beat her and she might not run. Its a possibility. Youve got to lay it out there and then who knows what happens. So how is your guy doing . How is jeb bush doing . In a question and answer session in detroit he made this change last week. Were talking about his last name, the bush name. I love my dad, in fact, my dad is the greatest man alive and if anyone disagrees, well go outside unless youre 65, 250 and much younger than me. Then well negotiate. I love my brother and i think hes been a great president. It doesnt bother me a bit to be proud of them and love them but i know for a fact that if im going to be successful going beyond the consideration, im going to have to did it on my own. Your witness. John . Hes now joined the question. How do i get to be a new bush while ive got the baggage of the old bushes . The Bumper Sticker is not going to be bush. Its going to be jeb. Like hillary . And i think jeb has to define himself which i think he can easily do. Hes going to chart a new course. And i think with his authentic approach to politics, hes going to be much more appealing than anything we have. Youre a spy on the republican party. Youre a centrist, i think. Is he going to be more like his dad, which most of us really like, or is he going to be w. Like a hawk . I think hes going to be like a pirate. Secretly conservative unlike his dad who was secretly moderate. Will he be a hawk . I think hell be going into the new countries with armies . I think hell be much more towards his father. So these people wont be a bunch of neocons . No, but hell have neocons who support him. I think hes going to have a far more i think thats the number one concern, the center left, who might vote for him because they like the guy. Their fear is not his education policy or immigration policy because they like that. What they fear about him, as modern as he seems domestically, all of those rightwing hawks are going to come after him. I think he does need to get out there and talk about what is this bush doctrine. Meeting your demand, governor bush unveiled what he calls his reformed conservative agenda for america in detroit today. It was a mix of economic populism and concerted here it is. The recovery has been everywhere but in the family paychecks. The American Dream has become a mirage for far too many. So the central question that we face in detroit and america is this, can we destroy that dream, that moral promise that each generation can do better . If we cant answer that question, look, no tax, no Welfare Program will save our system or our way of life. Because americas moral promise isnt broken when someone is wealthy. Its broken when achieving success is far beyond our imagination. So im getting involved in politics again because thats where the work has to begin. The opportunity gap is the defining issue of our time. I cant argue with that. I tell you, that goes with community college, with educating kids. Well, right. All the good stuff. He didnt fill that blank in. I think its terrific that republicans are talking about this. I really do. If we can agree that its a big problem, we can solve it together. However, that speech had nothing about community college, earned income tax credit. How would he well, its time to fill it in. His biggest challenge is going to be putting meat on the bone. Yes. What are the policies that fill this thing that are conservatives wont brace. His brother had two policies, no child left behind and prescription drugs. They are not letting him behind. Thats a Dianne Feinstein joke. Their policy is no child left behind. I think jeb would be a great president , highly defined policies. By the way, a working kid in a bad neighborhood who wants to get out and make a living and get a real job . You have to deal with crime control and make sure the kids are solid and deal with families. Youve got to make sure that the Family Structures and support of the family. Real techno, stuff. Thank you, john feehery. We can turn off the camera and get it done here. Joan walsh, thank you. Thats the nicest thing youve said about republicans in my lifetime and i really have a soft spot. I want to hear from jeb. Im not really to put that guy down and i hope i dont have to. I hope hes a real contender because out of those running, youve got to like him. Jordan executed two prisoners today. Is this a turning point that may rally the muslim war against the bad guys . Plus, Chris Christie goes to london and tries to build a Foreign Policy out of nowhere and returns home in worst political shape than when he left jersey. And why was president obama after mitt romney called him to concede the election . Thats ahead with the round table. Finally, let me finish, secretary clintons role in life, shes defining it now. This is hardball, a place for politics. I bring the gift of the name your price tool to help you find a price that fits your budget. Uhoh. The name your price tool. Shes not to be trusted. Kill her. Flo it will save you money the name your price tool isnt witchcraft and i didnt turn your daughter into a rooster. She just looks like that. Burn the witch the name your price tool a dangerously progressive idea. Confirmation hearings began today for ashton carter, president obamas pick to be secretary of defense. Things got hot over syria. Well get to that in a minute but in his opening statement, chairman john mccain took this shot at the white house. I must candidly express concern about the task that awaits you and the influence youd have on some of the most Critical National Security Issues facing our nation. Two of your predecessors, secretary gates and secretary panetta have securely criticized the micromanagement of the Defense Department and overcentralization of the foreign defense policy. Well, mr. Carter agreed to work with members on National Security and would be a stickler for the chain of command. Well be right back. Welcome back to hardball. Welcome back to hardball. Well, the country of jordan vowed to wage a relentless war against isis after the horrific video showed a captured jordanian pilot being burned to death while trapped in a cage. The latest atrocity by the Islamic State was met with revulsion and outrage across the arab world. Jordan immediately promised a response. They executed a woman, an attempted suicide bomber. Influential religious leaders have spoken out. The top Muslim Authority in egypt and revered for sunnis for punishing fighters. Thank you both for joining me. David, youre here. Angry over atrocities, whether its beheading, we all feel it, we feel it for three or four days and then we go back to the policy that made sense over time. Will the jordanians or other arab countries, the saudis included, take up arms against isis . We have to see. They are already nominally part of the coalition thats fighting isis, an important aspect of the anger thats clear in the arab world is that it gives cover for people like King Abdullah of jordan, for the new leadership in saudi arabia and other arab leaders to move forward with the u. S. , not to be embarrassed about it. Its interesting that the lieutenant kaseasbeh is from a very tribal area in jordan. Hes from the betowin area and when they swear revenge, they mean it. Will they go to war . Well, they are at war. The question is whether they are going to stick with it. We always say, why dont the arabs speak up, why dont they express anger . Today they did. And i think thats important. What about the reality when you listen to john mccain who is pretty hawkish, you dont hear a coherent plan to beat isis, even over a reasonable period of time or any period of time. You dont hear it. How do you defeat a country which is now a country that has all of that land that it owns right now . John mccain has a very specific view about what to do with rebels and arming rebels. Lets come to that in a second. The bottom line is, isis is a global threat and with a global threat it requires a multilateral response and thats not just militarily but holistically. There are sunni muslims being slaughtered, there are shias being executed in the hundreds, there are christians, yazidis, jews. And from every part of the world. So everyone is a threat here from isis. We can go to isis or let them come to us. I suggest the former. There are geopolitical problems going on around the world. Russia, absolutely essential on the u. N. Security council in the p5. We have a problem with russia and the ukraine. If you look at iran, there are discussions going on about Irans Nuclear program. If you go to saudi arabia, the problem with saudi arabia is that the u. S. Has home basing for its predator drones being used in yemen. That will effectively get in the way of conversations of saudi arabia. Egypt needs to be hardest because they are a sovereign nation and its not going to be under the Muslim Brotherhood. There are areas around the world clouding a coordinated response. We need to get our head around what john mccain said, a military response. Michael, lets watch what i think hes pretty circumscribed. Heres john mccain when he asked what the United States needs to do to combat isis. Lets listen to his words. Very careful here. Im very much in favor of air controllers, special forces, some embedded trainers and others that literally make the difference between a fighting force thats capable and one that is not. That does not mean, as the president always sets up the straw man, massive american troops. But at earshot, that is the question to americans. As angry as i feel, as most people do, and even in his words do i hear a call for war like we did with afghanistan and iraq twice. To go in there on the ground with a famous general leading the charge and kill everybody that gets in our way, i dont even hear that from him now. No. And there is no appetite in the United States for that, chris. Even among moderate republicans there isnt. I want to go back, though, to the point about, you know, whether various allies of the United States in the middle east will sustain their membership in this coalition against isis. Look, that coalition is fragile and nominal at best. Lets take a country like jordan, which is, in meaningful ways, a moderate muslim country. A few years ago, my own entry visa to jordan was pulled by the royal court. Why . Because they did not want to be accused by the Muslim Brotherhood of allowing somebody like me to come into the country. Thats how skittish the jordanian government is about being accused of itself with anybody with the effect of westernism. Did that change in the sight of a guy having gasoline poured on him, knowing its all going to happen to him, realizing it and watching this guy go through this horror . Many jordanians rallied behind their countrys king when he returned from the u. S. Yesterday and today the king promised a long, hard fight against isis. He said, we are waging this war david, can he hold the meds in the beds together in his country . Can he hold his country together facing down a neighboring arab reality . He has a better chance tragically after this terrible event. Last week, there were a lot of people concerned in washington and amman, that the family of this pilot, many of people were saying, why are we in this fight . This isnt our fight. Its americas fight. I think theres a lot less of that now. The point id make for your viewers is, 90 of the arab world, i think, was outraged today in the aftermath of this. The target audience of isis is the 10 who may not have been outraged. And the hate. Well, you know, the shock value why are they like this . Because this is shocking, its a scream in the face of the people who have been dropping bombs in their view on arabs, they would argue killing arabs. Thats the reason they set up this video, the horrible burning of the lieutenant. I think theres also a romance and adventure that isis projects. Join the fight, be with us. And for the 10 , thats powerful. Go ahead. Just quickly, there is also blow back against isis among younger muslims. I can tell you that there is plenty of commentary coming out of the middle east written by young muslims saying that this culture of vendetta and counter vendetta has to end and that, in fact, the violence being perpetrated by isis, the barbarity, the savagery is pushing more and more muslims into speaking up and out more openly of the abuse of the faith. We very well may see that isis has it is work cut out for them in recruiting more young people. Thats the best news that shes right. Thats a big thing. Let me go to michael, last question. Briefly, it seems that israel has had to live with a situation like this. 90 of people in the west bank dont want to kill the israelis but the 5 or 2 are going to go over there and be suicide bombers, ruin any chance of that mattering. My question is, if most in the arab world say this is the most horrific thing theyve ever seen them do to another, but if the 3 say, joining the crazies over there, what matters . In the long run, what matters . The passionate few, the hellraising people or those that like to see peace . What matters most . It takes decision like egypt, egypt made a decision last week, an Egyptian Court made a decision to rule the militant wing of hamas as terrorists. Thats unthinkable given that the egypt in the past has been a power broker in between palestinian and israeli talks. But let me finish on the point that john mccain was saying in terms of what his recommendations are on the battlefield. Theres a serious issue here. John mccain is right in one respect. There needs to be fusion between a ground force and air force in order to gain the maximum leverage militarily. But we had 160,000 Coalition Troops in iraq with the most sophisticated and powerful force in in the world. We have the most sophisticated ground forces, 300,000 if you include the Afghan National army. Training 5,000 rebels in syria and 5,000 iraqi troops in iraq in order to tackle effectively what is isis isnt going to cut it. Weve got to find another way, weve got to find a political solution, a political alternative and then fuse whatever solution with the military is and with what the road map turns out to be. Thank you, David Ignatius and michael kay. Well be right back after this. Prilosec otc. The number 1 doctorrecommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. One pill each morning. 24 hours. Zero heartburn. Man sternly where do you think youre going . Mr. Mucus to work, with you. Its taco tuesday. Man youre not coming. I took mucinex to help get rid of my mucusy congestion. Im good all day. [announcer ] mucinex keeps working. Not 4, not 6 but 12 hours. Lets end this back to hardball. Senator john mccain expressed his outrage last week when protesters disrupted a Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing where former secretary of state Henry Kissinger was about to protest. Mccain called the protesters lowlife scum. Nbc used the network time on the super bowl to tell about a show called the voice. We have a copy of it right here. The new season of americas favorite singing competition is coming soon. Dont miss the premier episode featuring mindblowing performances and special guest judge, senator john mccain. Get out of here, you lowlife scum. Next, a debate over whether or not to vaccinate children against measles has been a hot topic. So it was only a matter of time before jon stewart of the daily show weighed in, do vaccines only work when everybody has them. Its like america is in an isolated farmhouse and the measles are zombies. And for some inexplicable reason they are have risen from the dead and are looking for brains. They have given the job of boarding up the doors and windows because zombies have a very difficult time with wood. And trouble getting. And you trust everybodys going to do their job and then you wake up and its 2 00 in the morning and theres a [ bleep ] zombie gnawing on your brain and thats when a lady says, oh, i read a medical forum who says we shouldnt sleep in boarded up rooms and you know what youd say back to them . [ laughter ] finally, dont look for a painted portrait any time soon for the new House Oversight Committee Chairman says he wont sit for some painting because the practice is, quote, according to him, so 1800s. The hill newspaper said that they have removed the portraits from past committeemen. Chris christie probably wishes he stayed home. Nothing went right on his jaunt to london. Youre watching hardball, a place for politics. Now with the xfinity tv go app, you can watch live tv anytime. Its never been easier with so Many Networks all in one place. Get live tv whenever you want. The xfinity tv go app. Now with live tv on the go. Enjoy over wifi or on Verizon Wireless 4g lte. Plus enjoy special savings when you purchase any new Verizon Wireless smartphone or tablet from comcast. Visit comcast. Com wireless to learn more. The suv that was struck by a passenger train has been removed from the tracks. Welcome back to hardball. Chris christie is back on u. S. Soil and his london trip has been short of success or any success. Chris christies measles comments left him pandering. Headline, Chris Christie shows fondness for luxury benefits when others pay the bill. And christie snapped at reporters. Here he is. Did you discuss the Islamic State at all . Is there something that you didnt understand about no questions . Governor, would you put troops on the ground to fight isis . Is there a reason you wont take and for the first time in new jerseys poll, christie is viewed unfavorably more than favorably. Joining me, perry bacon, susan milligan. Susan, you first. A lot of things went wrong on this trip. A bad trip. As we used to say in the 60s. First of all, the whole idea that you can go to Great Britain and call that a Foreign Policy experience is sort of laughable to me and the fact that it went so badly makes it even worse. They speak english over there. Yes. And its not a foreign currency. He should have gone to greece, actually. That would have been more useful. But what is interesting to me, are we going to see Chris Christie, the straight talking guy who said get off the beach during one of the storms or are we going to see Chris Christie, the bully . And what we saw in his interaction with the press is Chris Christie the bully. It was such a minor situation. Its early on and to say to somebody, you cant ask me a question . His problem is, if he goes to iowa and hes at a barbecue and someone asks him a question that he doesnt like, and he says, are you stupid . Are you stupid . Hes got to bring that under control. In the beginning we all thought it was kind of charming to hear a guy speak straight but this stuff of no comment and whats wrong with no questions, like hes bridling at the press. Just shut up. You dont have to talk but you dont attack the reporters whose job it is to ask you questions about Major International issues. I dont mind him not answering questions. Hillary hasnt answered questions in a long time. His attitude is not great. The measles comment was just wrong. Youre running for president. We want you to be the leader of the country. Spell it out. Who is he talking to . To the conservative base, to libertarians. He made ben carson seem like a reasonable character. I want you to interpret what he says here. This is called meandering. He was all over the place this week on vaccinations at a press conference in london. Monday, he suggested that parents should have more of a choice when it comes to vaccinating against infectious diseases. Watch what he said and see if you can interpret it. Do you think americans should vaccinate their kids . All i can say is, we vaccinate ours and so, you know, thats the best expression that i can give you of my opinion. Its much more important as what you think as a parent than a public official and thats what we do. I also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in this as well. Thats a balance that the government has to decide, it depends on what the vaccine is and disease type is. Im saying you have to have the balance in considering parental concerns because no parent no parent cares about anything more than they care about protecting their own childs health. So give the parents an option but im telling you, i listened to that carefully. He wanted the yahoos, whoever they think they are, the working class not believing in measles, dont believe in the stuff that we all grew up with. Everybody grows up with measles and mumps and you get vaccinated. I think it was the first time that they praised president obama and criticized Chris Christie on something, the editorial board. But this idea that a number of republican lawmakers, president ial hopefuls, have taken the position that i personally support the vaccine but i wouldnt force it. We want to know if you would force it. Youre a lawmaker. We want to know what laws you would make. Another thing to keep in mind here is, the republican president ial candidates who are kind of pandering to this Antivax Movement as we call it, they are not doing it because they dont believe in the science but its borderline toxic to mandate anyone to do anything even if its good for Public Safety and health undisputably. What about the metaphor about zombies. I went to Catholic School for 100 years. You always came home because the kids were packed together in classrooms, some kids had sniffles and some got worse. If you have three or four brothers, one of you is going to get it. I had four brothers. And also the desire for perfect attendance was ridiculous. Do you remember . Get that kid to school. You want that perfect attendance badge. The science is unequivocal. My mother was a nurse. I could never get away with pretending to be sick. Everybody got sick. The thing is, look what tom tillis said, what about the policy about washing your hands. Explain that. I think what was behind it is that a business doesnt mandate anything like that. That we dont require our employees to wash their hands and people wont go to this restaurant if people dont wash their hands. Well, we dump our waste into the river and, you know, just dont buy our product. I know that sign is aimed at me, not the employees. Its aimed at the customers to know that the employees, that they have clean hands. Yes. Thats what it is for. I dont want that on the no one does. Its a perfect illustration of what tom tillis who complains about having to wash their hands . Nobody. But they were i watch everybody at the airport. I make sure i watch everybody who has and if somebody doesnt wash their hands, Everybody Knows it. And im not shaking tom tillis hands again. Thats right. And unfavorable numbers as of now are more than his favorable. 38 of new jersey residents with a favorable opinion of christie. Thats 38. But 40 in unfavorable. In june, christy was above water at 45 and even last february, with the bridgegate scandal in full swing, christies favorables were higher than the unfavorables. These things matter. Is it normal for a politician on his way up to be noticed taking leave from the state that he was elected to govern . The polls show that people know what is going on. Christie is done with jersey. Ultimately he cares about a poll in iowa. But the citizens of iowa who read every newspaper, i hear they dont like you but i count. Sahil, im always impressed by the Knowledge Base of the person being polled on the candidate side. Theres a dozen of them. Everybody has an opinion on every one of them. Right. How can or is it just a wake. I have no idea what youre talking about. And Chris Christie snare scenario, since he got elected, hes taken steps that are clearly suggests that hes looking at the president ial election, that hes not really thinking about new jersey. What was he doing in london . I dont think you announce that youre home by going to london. Up next, why was president obama irritated at mitt romney when mitt romney called him to concede the 2012 election . This is hardball. This is so fascinating. Sensitivity and awkward statements. Anyway, the place for politics. Back in a minute. Its scary. Little bit in my eye. [ michelle ] underneath the Kitchen Table underneath my work desk weve got enough to knit a sweater. [ doorbell rings ] zach, what is that . The swiffer sweeper. The swiffer dusters. Its some sort of magic cloth that sucks in all the dog hair. Its quick and easy. Pretty amazing that it picked it all up. I would totally take on another dog. [ kevin ] really . Well, president obamas getting back at Congressional Republicans with a pr offensive on the each of immigration, of course. Republicans are trying to undue his executive actions on immigration by tieing him to funding measure. Today the president hosted a half a dozen dreamers, young immigrants subject to deportation if the republican bill gets passed. The president accuses the republicans of ignoring the human consequences of their legislation. Were back after this. Were back. Today the New York Daily News released an excerpt from a new book written by david axelrod. Its coming out next week, which reveals the president s displeasure in the call he got from his 2012 opponent who defeated mitt romney. He was shocked and irritated by that phone call. According to axelrod in the this is obama being described, interpreted by axelrod. His former body man, the one who gets you your cookies at night, jackson, disputed the claims, jackson also told cbs, quote, i first of all, the president s sensitivity to the line, not just the line, but the two parts he said it, he said you did great in cleveland and milwaukee. I wouldnt think of milwaukee as an africanamerican dominated area. Its just a city that people are liberal in, or democrat. The president apparently saw it as an ethnic jab. There was a Conference Call after the election where romney said obama were getting the minorities and hispanics. You linked to something we had on a Conference Call, one week after losing in 2012, and blamed it on big gifts, thats the word, to loyal democratic constituencies, africanamericans, hispanics and young people. Here it is. There you go. They bought it. They bought the poor people and minorities. Thats why they won the election. Obviously none of us was there. We dont know exactly what was said. We know what he just said there. Hes very much in sync with what his campaign was saying after the election in 2012. Everybody sat at this event in Harvard University and spoke frankly about the campaigns. At one point someone said, did you really think that everyone elses poll was wrong and yours were right . They said, we think our polls were right, we think we just didnt get out enough of the white male vote. We looked at them and said there isnt that much of the white male vote in this country anymore. I dont think they really fully understood what the demographics of a president ial electorate is. That comment, this idea that, well, we would have won but you whipped up the vote in these, quote unquote, ethnic areas, that actually makes sense to me. Lets talk turkey, youre talking about the big city vote. You may call it the urban vote, but youre basically talking the base. The africanamerican votes have been predominantly for the democrats. Why is that offensive in itself . It could be perceived in two different ways. The Romney Campaign was genuinely baffled at the obama teams ability to turn out the low thats how so fis ti cats talk in the back room. Theyre pointing out that you won because of africanamerican voters and minorities. And president obama is sensitive to this idea of the sentiment that hes the president of black america. He doesnt want to be seen that way. Hes not that person. Pi the way, thats an argument thats fair on his part. The africanamericans are always iowa, new hampshire. Not a lot of black people in those states. Obama won those just fine. The great beloved walter cronkite, after the wisconsin primary of 1960, that night he said he only won because he got the catholic vote, and kennedy went steaming out of that room. Now i have to go to West Virginia because youve taken away my victory because my peeps showed up. Congratulations, mr. President , it was a tough fight and honor running against you, why do you have to come up with excuses as to why he beat you . It sounds just a little petty. The first nixonkennedy debate, nixon said to kennedy yeah, nixon said to kennedy, you had a great turnout in ohio. Thank you for talking points. Let me finish with secretary clintons new role in life, which has become a political identification in her life. Youre watching hardball, a place for politics. I love my shows, but i cant just sit around all day. Thats why i have xfinity. Their cloud based dvr lets me take everything i recorded, anywhere i go. Which is perfect for me, [whispering] because i have responsibilities. I mean thats really interesting, then how do you explain these photos . [people gasping] objection your honor. Sustained. With the x1 dvr library you could take anywhere, xfinity is perfect for people on the go. Let me finish tonight with secretary clintons role in life. Many people pull back from the title of grandparent. They come up with nicknames. My wife kathleen likes to be called names that i brought back from the peace corps in swaziland. Clinton is a grandmother and has no problem with the name. She wants the world to know there are certain strengths and a serious amount of wisdom to being a parent of a parent. Shes out there looking over the horizon to the world, her grandchild is going to live in, rather than make it with someone holding on. Shes leapfrogging to the future by talking about the world thats coming for, in her case, granddaughter charlotte. We never know how much thought goes into a comment from a politician. Sometimes they speak without deliberation and Say Something brilliant. Sometimes they speak without thinking and Say Something we call a gaffe. But having paid attention to secretary clinton over these recent months, see how she keeps her own counsel, i assume shes making a president ial run, i dont think she made this grandmother reference blindly. Secretary clinton is letting it be known shes proud of her position and her family and her generation, and in her country, and she knows its strengths. I take what she said very seriously. 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