Serious as this, that we can count on a voluntary system. This is governments job, if anything else, the governments job is to protect the safety and health of our citizens. And so weve taken this action, and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. For christie, its a test of macho. He abandoned mitt romney for a waterfront bromance with obama. In 2013, his people stuck it to a smalltime democratic mayor for not ponying up an endorsement. Now teaming with Governor Cuomo and sticking it to the president for not being as tough as he is. Its a common sense approach that the federal government wouldnt take, that we took first here in new jersey and new york, has now been adopted by chicago, has now been adopted by maryland. As i said yesterday on the news, this will become the National Policy because its smart, tough, commonsense politics. What is the smart way to treat ebola . Slamming doors and closing bridges or getting help where it counts the most . To quote billy crystal, who has the science on his side. Lets hear it from an expert. I think its ridiculous. There are marry jews in the nfl than people who have died of ebola in this country. Right . That is true. One person has died. You cant get it. You cant get it. All the people who have got it are the people im not going to sponge bathe an ebola patient. Theres no way that im going to get it. In a rather crude way that was howie mandel with kelly and michael on this friday. And lets face it, just two people have contracted ebola here in the United States. Does that tell us to the macho governors who want to put traffic cones around west africa, or the president. A special correspondent from the daily beast and host of the reid report. This is an interesting battle. Everything is political now and ebola fits into that category. The macho man in trenton joining up with a guy in albany, trying to outfight ebola with the president. Theyre showing more macho. Whats going on here . Who knows what theyre talking about and who is simply playing theater against ebola . Chris, so much for the party of individual liberty and small government. Chris christie said this is what we get into politics to do, to grab a nurse out of the airport and put her in a tent. Cant even quarantine at home until they changed their mind. I think for Chris Christie, this is about repairing some of the damage he did to himself in 2012 with his party. This shows him as in line with the base of the party, in line with the fear crowd, in line with the party who insists that the scientists are all wrong and that the virus is airborne, that you have to come down heavy on anyone you think might be carrying it into the United States. And i think this presents him in the guise he wants to be. Not the guy who was squishy and hugged obama to get aid for new jersey, but the guy who is super tough, going to come down on the nurses and theyre not going to get away from him. I agree with her. Its too bad he wants to run for president , because otherwise he would have handled it in a more humane way. This nurse goes over there to be a good soul, a good samaritan. She comes back, she goes through customs at Newark International airport. She says shes not symptom attic, they misread her temperature, take it with an oral thermometer, she has no temperature. Christie says shes symptom attic. Hes playing to the fear, the polls, the Republican Base for 2016 and she got horrible treatment because of it. Nurse kaci hickox came back on friday and was moved to an isolation tent at a Newark Hospital after a temperature scan shows she was running a fever. Hickox said she did not have a fever, but she was flushed and upset about how she was being treated. But only after spending three nights in isolation. She said shes considering suing. While in isolation, she called into cnn to slam governor christie. Lets listen to her. I am not, as he said, quote unquote, obviously ill. I am completely healthy and with no symptoms. If he knew anything about ebola, he would know that asymptomatic people are not infectious. I think this is an extreme that is really unacceptable and i feel like my basic human rights have been violated. Governor christie responded today in signature fashion. Here he is. Governor, when you first [ inaudible ] i have no reason to talk to her. My job is not to represent her, its to represent the people of new jersey. She was obviously ill enough that cdc and medical officials hospitalized her and gave her an ebola test. They dont do that just for fun. Wow, it sounds like christie before that bridge closing. Take a listen to this. It sounds like this again. Here he is. You dont send your children to public schools. You send them to private schools. So i was wondering why you think its fair to be Cutting School funding to public schools. Whats her name . Whats her name real quick . Gale. Gale, first off, its none of your business. I dont ask you where you send your kids to school. Dont bother me about where i send mine. It seems to me theres a difference between hard left and hard right. But theres a certain sort of rightist tendency there to take the interest of, you might call it the group, against the individual. Where the individual doesnt really matter so much. He made it clear i dont want to talk to that person. I represent the group, not the individual. On economic issues, they are very much concerned with the individual, the right to make all the money you can. But on social issues like this, or disease, it seems like theres a philosophical difference. Guys on the right are quick to say, screw you, west africa, keep that disease to yourself, live with it. At the same time, theyre quick to say, lets quarantine people. The president and the scientists in this country are a bit more humane. Their reaction is, lets be careful here, respect peoples humanity, lets not shove people around, in some sort of overwhelming fear. Theres a human difference, basic human difference in the way people of these two different political stripes deal with people. Obama and this guy, i think. And i agree. But first of all, its also kind of haphazard. Imagine how the right would have reacted if president obama had instituted a system where americans coming back into the United States were put into a cdc tent against their will. Just imagine the optics of that and how that would play on the right. So there isnt any consistency to the ideology. But one thing that is consistent, especially with christie, is this attitude. And unfortunately its twice that you played against women of just indifference to peoples opinion and even his role as a Public Servant to even have to address his constituents. They have no right to question him. Who do they think they are . Im Chris Christie, you dont question me. If you look at new yorks policy, it was a lot more systematic. It was a lot more about getting the patient to the hospital and making sure there was a system. In new jersey, it was, youre a leper, get in the tent. You dont speak to me michael, it is fascinating, this difference. Because there have been two cases of people who got the disease here in this country. Its not an outbreak. Its not exponential, not a pandemic or anything like that. But it could be. And here we are so close to an election, and you can imagine it going another way. We dont know. Therefore, the fear factor works. Probably. Fear factor works. And public fear of this is way out of proportion to the actual numbers. You look at polls 72 of the people say they should be quarantined, anybody coming here. Right. 72 . From two cases. Its insane. What about the military . Just to cloud things up here . The military apparently is quarantining everybody who comes back from working over there. Of course those guys are under order. So theyre not free moving citizens. Theyre in uniform and under orders. Yeah, right, its the military. Rules that apply in a free society dont necessarily have to apply to military and thats fine. But this is a free society. Youre right about the distinctions between obama and christie and the difference is in the philosophical approaches. And obama, you know, a lot of times, chris, hes waited until the evidence came in and hes been prudent and he hasnt spoken. A lot of times thats been kind of a disadvantage for him politically. But at this point, i think its the right thing for him to do. By the way, both sides know what the fight is about. And they know its a fight. Look at this, joy. The white house took a shift to christie today. Very nicely put by josh ernest who has an amazing name for a flag. Anyway, lets take a look. Service of somebody like kaci hickox is something that we should honor and respect. She doesnt travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. Presumably shes not going to be inducted into the nurses hall of fame for it. Her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected and i dont think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days. Thats a thing about the sympathies involved. I have to tell you, its interesting, the democrats, the president , and his spokesperson, and in other cases, they were looking out for nina pham, they were looking out for people as individuals, doing their job. Theyre not treated at typhoid marys. Whereas the other side treats them as scare crows, oh, my god. Whereas the democrats look at them as people, good Public Servants. People love nurses. Theres a poll taken after 9 11, all the young guys wanted to be firefighters. All the young ladies wanted to be nurses. First of all, you have to remember too, the Obama Administration has an overarching interest in getting people to go into west africa to help. So they want to do anything to encourage it, obviously. And i think it is looked at as a Public Service that these doctors, and even doctors who say they prefer the option of a 21day quarantine for those coming back, believe it should be done in the most humane way possible. People shouldnt be forced into a tent. There should be compassion and reverence. Whereas on the other side, theres an accusatory tone against the people who have acquired the virus. And remember, theres a large percentage of those who are getting infected with ebola are health care providers, people who are doing this godly service to save their fellow man. It is godly. I have two ask you two flowers of justice, joy surprise you first, michael. Will this make people fear and vote rightwing . The people who come outs to vote in this election are already voting rightwing. But i will say this, this is going to last through 2016. Well hear a lot of that between now and then. I believe fear makes people go to the right. Weve seen it in the 20th century in the worst possible way. But even within our moderate confines of politics in this country, left and right not being that far apart. I think people are drink to the right when theyre afraid. Yeah, i think republicans do benefit from a fearbased environment in general. But i agree with michael that that crowd was already going to vote in large numbers. The big question hanging over this election is whether the crowd on the other side gets exercised enough. Because the election is not nationalized on the democratic side. Its very much so on the republican side, and this just adds to that. I hope everybody watching right now votes. Ive done it. Have you voted yet . I have not done it yet, but i vote every election. Im a super voter. Have you put down your name . I go on election day. I did the early voting. Thats me. Anyway, thank you both. Coming up, right to the wire, well talk about the election right now, and four billion bucks in tv advertising. Most of the advertising youve seen has been attacking the president. Thats what they do on the other side. As joy said, they nationalize this thing. Will those air strikes actually work . This is hardball, a place for politics. With eight days to go, the aerial assault from republicans, the air strikes are stepping up, with relentless air attacks against president obama and all the other democrats. When we return, well survey the damage. Its hardball, back after this. You know Elections Come down often to whose got more money, whose pedaling more fear, and who turns out. Well, the fear is right, and the turnout is right. Welcome back to hardball. That was Hillary Clinton stumping for democratic senator kay hagan this weekend in North Carolina. Certainly one of the close races of the country for control of the u. S. Senate. I figure right now, the democrats could lose as many as ten senate seats next tuesday, or as few as four, which would keep them still in control. Yet things are close in so many races. This is yesterday on fox news sunday. Its tight and its remarkable. What that means is in arkansas and North Carolina and elsewhere, Democratic Candidates are running doubledigits ahead of the president s job Approval Rating, which they simply shouldnt be doing. I dont get that statement. What does he mean . Three states in particular, everybody agrees are close. North carolina, we talked about that with the secretary clinton. Colorado and iowa which could be very close. Look like theyre all coming down to the wire. A new poll shows hagan in North Carolina deadlocked with her republican opponent thom tillis, that means hes gaining. Close also in colorado where gardner is leading udall. He looks very strong. In iowa, the pigs Worst Nightmare out there, joni ernst leads bruce braley by just three points. But that one, i think shes winning there. Polls in all three states could determine who takes control of the senate one week from tomorrow. Howard fineman, Eugene Robinson join us. Guys, i really, over the 30 or 40 years have been doing this, take great pride in my ability to predict you have a great good record. So i really try to get it right. But i think its hard this time, these races are so close i dont want to screw them up by saying what i think is really going to happen. But im liking at North Carolina and secretary clinton was there. If seems to me that if kay hagan cant squeak that baby, nobody could. Shes done everything right. Shes done everything right. Shes maintained that little lead. Now if the race is tightening up, i think frankly thats a tough sign for her. And for the democrats. Exactly. And for the democrats. If she wins that seat, it could be, you could look forward to a decent night for the democrats. You could think the democrats shes the fire wall, i agree. But if she goes, you got to look at New Hampshire. And if lets talk about New Hampshire. If we turn on the tv, if we start that night and we see in kentucky at 7 00, your state, if thats too close to call, i tell people, not a bad night for the democrats. That means that Alison Lundergan grimes is hanging in there, it may be a squeaker, great credit to her. If however at 8 00 its over. We say too close to call in New Hampshire, got it wrong, this could be a night the republicans sweep everything. If they can beat a guy they just moved him into the state a week ago, then thats right. If that happens in New Hampshire, that shows that the lay of the land nationally is such that a guy like scott brown, as you say, who just moved into the state, people in New Hampshire dont even like people from massachusetts. Let alone isis and people with ebola and everything else. [ laughter ] if theyre willing to elect that guy, then that shows that the whole tilt of the Playing Field is on the republicans. Theres nothing wrong with her. I keep reading reports of her being a popular senator shaheen. Yes. And she was governor too. [ all speak at once ] popular is a relative term this year, right . Because even a popular senator can get knocked off by a carpet bagger, basically who is not frankly the most impressive when he was in the senate. Lets talk dynamics. Everybody who is smart uses it. If the democrats show that obamas not popular, and they stop advertising any positive about him. On the other hand, the republicans and tea party run savage ads, obama doesnt look too good. So going into the polls, just say bad stuff about him, so by the time you get to the polling booth, all you hear is bad about him. I think that the democrats had a difficult row to hoe regardless, because of the president s unpopularity. But what they needed to do and what i dont think theyve done enough of is tease out the things about the democratic agenda that while not featuring the president necessarily mean that youre a democrat. Mean that you have something positive to say. And one reason why Alison Grimes has made a race of it in kentucky is that she has relentlessly talked about minimum wage, raising the minimum wage, equal pay for women. You know, these kinds of meat and potatoes issues, which against a 30year incumbent like mitch mcconnell, have some juice. She refused to say whether she voted for president obama, but yet shes managed to get the democratic message out there, not enough other people have done it. And i think it is a vicious cycle, as you say, chris. If the democrats dont defend the president at all and the republicans attack, it weakens the president and the democrats run away further and the republicans attack even more. And the president s Approval Ratings keep going down. Hes suffered like 300 million worth of negative advertising against him personally. Can you win i remember back i dont remember. But back in 1952, i did read about this. I dont remember. They said, he had taken the nazi surrender. You couldnt beat him. So you had to say, look in your wallet, oh, you have some money in there. Didnt have that when we came in. Whats the Social Security card . Didnt have that, did you . So they went through all the particular things to make the case for a guy like stevenson who didnt have the char