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"hardball" starts right now. taking charge. this is "hardball." good evening. in washington, president obama has just taken charge of the global fight against ebola. we've got all the bases covered tonight with craig melvin in dallas, tom costello and kristin welker at the white house where the commander in chief has issued orders to contain a health danger that he said threatens to become a global catastrophe if not killed at its source. our goal here tonight, give you what you need to know in protecting yourself against ebola which has just today captured its second american victim here in the u.s. president obama canceled a planned fundraising trip to new jersey and a rally in connecticut to meet with cabinet officials coordinating the response. >> in light of this second case, i thought it was very important for me to bring together our team. what we've been doing here today is reviewing exactly what we know about what is happening in dallas and how we're going to make sure that something like this is not repeated. and that we are monitoring, assume vising, overseeing in a much more aggressive way exactly what is taking place in dallas initially and making sure the lessons learned are then transmid to hospitals and clinics across the country. if we do these protocols properly, if we follow the steps, if we get the information out, then the likelihood of widespread ebola outbreak in this country are very, very low. >> that's the president late today in the white house. craig melvin is in dallas. how did this nurse get it? get ebola? how did it happen? do we know yet? we would like to know how it cannot be repeated again. >> we don't know exactly. what we do know is that 29-year-old amber vinson came in contact with thomas eric duncan very early on. the 28th or 29th, the 30th programs. she reportedly among other things in terms of her treatment, inserted catheters, drew blood and dealt with duncan's body fluids. so presumably it was one of those three ways. we did hear earlier from the cdc chief that here at texas presbyterian, before they knew duncan had ebola, proper protocols were not in place. no protocols in place depending on who you ask. he mention that had there were health care workers that had skin exposed. he mention that had some of these health care workers were putting on several layers of protective clothing instead of just the one which made it more difficult to get off which increased their chances of exposure. so we don't know how she got it but we have a pretty good idea. you mentioned amber vinson, the second hospital worker here to contract ebola. we also know that she took a flight. she took a night from here to cleveland, from cleveland back here. the head of the cdc saying today, that is not something that should have happened. she had an elevated temperature. she was taking her own temperature. her temperature was 99.5. not a fever but again, an elevated temperature. and the cdc saying today that she should not have been allowed to travel by virtue of the fact that she was in an exposed group. so today we heard some new rules. an edikt that from here on out, folks exposed would not be allowed to get on an aircraft. and he is working with local legal officials to establish prohibiting people who have been monitored from using public transportation. from getting on airplanes, also perhaps even going to football stadiums, going to places where there would be large gatherings. this is something he mentioned this afternoon. something he is working to do right now. >> well, thank you very much. craig melvin in dallas. we're moving around now. health officials said that amber vinson, the newest victim, left dallas, flew to cleveland to visit family members. then monday night she got on a plane and returned to dallas. at that time she had a slightly elevated fever in the second flight. on tuesday morning she reported to the hospital with an elevated fever. hours later she was diagnosed with wool. the cdc insists the risk is extremely low but the cdc is working to track down all those passengers. nbc's tom costello is at reagan national airport. this is what the nonconnect is for me. i hope everybody is doing their best here. if it is so hard to get this stuff, ebola, how do people have to worry about their necks being covered? if you only touch it, how can the neck exposure allow you to be enough to contract the disease? and the other thing is when you get on a plane, don't worry if the woman sitting next to you has ebola, you cannot get it. yet there they are at the cdc tracking down every person. is it easy to catch or hard to catch? >> let's break down just the situation involving the plane. 132 passengers. this is out of an bundleance of caution that they are trying to alert everybody on the plane. they would like to know they were on the plane in which somebody who later was proven to have ebola was also on the plane. keep in mind they did the same thing when thomas duncan flew into the united states on that united airlines plane from brussel. the cdc reached out to the passengers on the plane as a courtesy and out of an abundance of caution. they underscore, and we should too, that it is very, very, very difficult to contract this disease if you don't have contact with bodily fluids and there is no suggestion whatsoever that this nurse who was on the flight from cleveland to dallas was in any way symptomatic other, than a low grade fever. what does that mean? it means it was below the threshold of the fever that is on the cdc check point watch list. so even below that level. she was at 99.5. still, they are vising people on that plane. here is what happened and you should be watching for symptoms just out of an abundance of caution. but everybody that i talked to thinks it is highly unlikely that anybody would be symptomatic from that plane. how do you contract it? bodily could not tack with bodily fluids. there is some suggestion that maybe it can seep through the skin but most people think you have to have to ingest in it in way. through your eye, your mouth, if you were to inhale a particle of blood or vomit or other bodily fluids, you can use your imagination, the concern is that that in and of itself might translate into ebola. again, i'm going to say the one last time. nobody believes those people on that plane are in any risk. but out of an abundance of caution. >> how do we know who has it? the first symptoms of headache. somebody is on a plane, they ask for ibuprofen or bayer aspirin. how do you know somebody coughing on a plane doesn't just have the flu? we're in flu season. >> you don't. that's where this conversation is going. today we heard the former u.s. surgeon general under president bush saying, we need to have a serious discussion about whether we ban those flights coming in from west africa. he is not advocating for that. he says we cannot take it off the table. it is time to have the conversation. what are the pluses and the minuses? what if you get on a plane from west africa. let's say you're going on brussels or the united states. it is a long flight. a long series of flights. what if you board the flight and you're not sick but you are sick by the time you come into jfk or washington dulles? i don't know about you. i've been on planes where i started out overseas feeling fine pitch the time got here, i was feeling kind of sick because i was sitting next to someone who was symptomatic. >> do you know how it smells clear when you get off a plane after a long flight? you're all sharing the same air and it is pretty beaten up air by the time you get off that plane. i wonder if the symptoms show up in flight, the people races from their seats? what will happen in that situation? >> this is all part of the conversation. this is why there is some discussion about whether this is time to revisit this. i do need to clear this up. this is one of those common misconceptions. we hear it all the time we're rebreathing the air. the air is recycled about every 90 seconds. it is being sucked into the cabin through engines. it is clean air from the outside. and it goes through hepa filters and pushed back out again. it is not like we're sitting each other's air for the entire plane ride. >> why does it seem like that? >> well, probably because the guy next to you, he has a bad sandwich or his shoes off or whatever. >> a little humor. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins us now. thank you for joining us. you know the political situation the president is in. it was impressive. two-thirds of the american people are asking right now for to us shut down air traffic from west africa. even donald trump was only one. is it on the table? speaker boehner said it should be considered late this afternoon. >> chris, i think that's where this conversation is going. you have more and more lawmakers on capitol hill calling for a travel ban. the white house insisting they will not put a travel ban into effect. it is not part of conversation. i'm told it is not part of the conversation. they say because ultimately it could hamp they are administration's ability, other countries' ability to fight ebola at its root, which is in west africa. the united states has sent about 3,600 forces to try to deal with the ebola crisis and to prevent it from coming to the united states. that's the reasoning. i think you're right. today we saw more and more lawmakers every hour almost come out and say why aren't we considering this travel ban? at this point the white house says they're not going to do it. >> we were used to during our wars in iraq, ill considered or not. we had one leader. general david petraeus. who is the david petraeus of this fight against ebola? >> that is a great question. lisa monaco has been named as the point person. she is the adviser from homeland security. we haven't heard from her for several days. instead you saw sylvia matthews bur well talking about this. tom frieden has been out front answering reporters' questions. so we have been trying to get that same answer from the white house. who specifically is in charge? earlier today during white house press briefing, i can tell that you josh earnest got a lot of questions about who is in charge. he deflected the questions saying li saying. then it always stops with the president. in term. having a czar, that hasn't happened yet either. at this point in time the administration saying lisa monaco is the point person but i think there is some public confusion. we're hearing so many voices on this from the administration. that's part of why you heard from the president today. >> i think he made himself the commander-in-chief on this issue. he hasn't named someone else in particular. i think it is him. the way he spoke, you've heard him many times. he seem to take the responsibility on himself. thank you for joining us. let's go to regina benjamin, a former surgeon general herself of the united states. do we need a surgeon general? someone the american people can look to like yourself. a true authority figure rather than this dispersal of authority among the hhs and the white house and the cdc itself. >> we always need a surgeon general and we always need a confirmed surgeon general. so yes, the answer is yes. as a surgeon general can speak from the perspective of america's doctor. from that perspective, can cut through all the noise. give a trusted voice to everything you're hearing in a way that american people can understand it. and they know that they're hearing from america's doctor. >> what is your sense? it was ill considered on the president's part to say it was unlikely would it get to the united states. it was brought here by a person who had it. and the two nurses have picked it up. it is growing incremeemeterily. we have another incident as of today. >> public health is a discipline or a specialty within medicine. it looks as population health. the answer to all our questions is prevention. prevention is the way to go. when we identify a outbreak such as ebola, you figure out where it starts. where the case is. isolate and it then make sure it doesn't spread anymore. that's what we're trying to do. the administration is doing well. dr. frieden has been trying to explain that concept really well but there's. so to it. the other part is what we as the american people can do ourselves to hem ourselves. as the physician, i tell my patients in the clinic every day, take your flu shot. it's flu season. take it and make sure that you have as much immunization and your immune system is as strong as it can be. exercise, eat well, be prepared for anything. because right now, the symptoms are very similar so it can be confusing. >> a lot more people will die of flu than ebola, don't you think? >> it is very dangerous. flu is very dangerous. but ebola is very frightening. >> sure is. thank you for joining us. we'll be following the ebola story throughout this hour. coming up, the democrats ultimately plan to circle the wagons. a little triage for the political people. they have a plan, it seems, to keep control of the oz. the democrats have pulled the money but they haven't pulled the flag. hillary rodham clinton is in kentucky and we'll there be to listen to her. 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>> because the airwaves have canceled themselves out. he said you get less bang for the buck. and this is a low turnout election. we need to cherry pick everyone of our people and get them to the polls. this started in new orleans. polling operations. in those key states that you mentioned, keep an eye on georgia also the republican has stepped it into big time. that's the one case the democrats are paying offense. the others are the circling the wagon exercises that you're talking about. >> i think, i look at states like colorado and iowa. right there. and they have to win them. it is a tough year. i can't speak for the great tim russert but i think he would be hear. iowa. i just feel that. there's something weird about how it always seems to go back to that. >> i think kentucky, arkansas, you will see less spinning by democrats there. they'll be going away. we have to mention kansas. that's all the other wild card at a. >> i know you can't bet but i'm betting. i think there's something essentially republican about kansas. remember they said, eisenhower that he was from kansas. that's how they knew he was a republican. it is a statement of reality. like maryland is democrat. >> at some point the thing that's an advantage is something of a mystery, the timing might be a little off for him in kansas. >> georgia and north carolina had those huge black belt populations. you have a lot of democratic pointers who are there. >> the campaign arm, you talk about under control. is pouring a million bucks into north carolina. theg they need it. and she is a good candidate. she is a pro. they're increasing their presence by $2 million. and i never understood why udall is in trouble. and another million dollars in south dakota which of course they thought would be a long shot for democrats. now republican candidate looks vulnerable, i would say. they've been voting for that guy for years. half the electorate has already voted for him. >> you and i know who he is. they still know him in south dakota. and i think he did this partly as a lark. he's been talking about the civility in politics. he was sitting around thinking that and he said why not? lo and behold he managed to make himself a figure in the race. i think that will end up -- >> do you know what i like about him? he read my book kennedy and nixon. and he read tippen and gipper. >> those states are so cheap to spend money. it makes no difference. >> the other thing is in a lot of the states, a lot of the time slots were political advertising have been taken up. and especially now. anybody coming in has less bang for the buck. they have to pay a premium to get in there. that's something the ground game avoids altogether. >> it's like delaware. >> and i remember john thune got elected. when he lost the race, he didn't contest it. he took the loss like a genetic. he didn't complain about election irregularities. he said i'll take the loss because the people are thatted that. larry took the loss. he took it. he didn't complain. >> i was a little like that too. don't forget we'll have a seamless transition between iowa senate race and the presidential race beginning in iowa. so that makes iowa -- even more important argued over ground. >> based upon this ebola thing, there will be a lot of hotels. airline tickets, hotels, get your rooms cheap. howard fineman, we agree on many things. >> when we come back, hillary clinton is campaigning. we'll hear what she has to say. 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that's undermining confidence. >> there is a typhoid mary aspect. my question, the president was on the mark when you listen to, he said if we don't kill this at its roots in west africa. we single 3,000 g.i.s. it will metastasize. how do you cut off air traffic with belgium? when they're all coming through? >> what's interesting, you used the word protocol. an interesting stat which was back in the anthrax scare, 61% of the country believed that the government was handling it properly. now only 33% of the people believe they're handling this ebola thing right. >> why is it different? >> it was the leadership. >> what do you think of tom frieden? >> they should have talked about canceling flights and. we don't have any cases here. it is not a problem but we want to protect our nation. now that we're having these incidents happen more frequently, we're seeing people come in on flights with ebola, people are dying from it and now you say we'll work on some flights? we'll think about taking a stand? now is when panic ensues. if they had done it on the front end. >> first guy to say that was donald trump. that tell you something. he is a tougher guy. late today, john boehner the speaker of the house said let's consider it. it is not exactly gutsy to say we should consider shutting down flights but it is more conservative than a liberal president. he doesn't like the idea of shutting down traffic. >> how do you shut down traffic with the rest of the world? if you shut down flights to west africa, how do we know people don't connect through other countries? >> you could look at their ticket. >> well, you can. but i think that the reason a lot of people are resisting this, is because of how dill it is to accomplish and you don't want the united states to cut itself off from the world. i think what you are seeing from obama only the is a realization that enough of the country is worried. i see other polls that show a lot more confidence than this but there is a partisan split. >> two-thirds say take a drastic measure. shut down air traffic. >> whenever people hear about a disease they get petrified. and that this disease doesn't spread through the air. it is not like other diseases. i think we can contain it. but i think that obama is right. we have to contain it there. >> let's be clear. we've had one person come in from west africa. it's not a plane load. you are more likely to be hit by lionel when you go home tonight than getting ebola. >> you don't have to think about lightning. you have to think about this. the old irish thing, the watched pot never boils? well, we're watching this pot right now. >> it is leading all the newscasts. he had no problem shutting down flights to israel. >> wait a minute. what is this? >> i'm saying -- did you bring that little quiver of arrows? >> how can he never think about shutting down flights? >> he did it already. i'm just saying there is a partisan split. more democrats believe the government has control on this. more republicans believe they don't. and quite frankly, i think this time news that breaks every night, it leads every newscast will it trickles down to the president's popularity and hurts democrats. >> i think that's true it is and terrifying for americans. if americans really want to deal with this crisis, we should do something to contain it in south africa -- >> west africa. >> west africa. yes. >> we'll single 3,000 guys over there. that means about 6,000 parents will have their kids heading over there. i was talking to the former surgeon general. i was saying, would you like to take that responsibility? somebody has to go with those g.i.s who is really good. like a peace corps doctor we used to have to make sure they don't get this disease over there. we're sending people over there and they get it under orders? they were sent into a place and they got it? >> i think what you're seeing in this election, in this phase, is the republicans are taking ebola, they're taking isis, and it is, if you're really worried, whatever it is, vote for us. and look in a mid-term election when the other side is in the white house, anything that gets the country to worry more about other stuff probably hems the opposition. just throw a word out there. there's another thing to worry about. >> and it is working. you're seeing it in the polls. some of the states are flipping to republican. >> your side, you're here in an adversarial position. since you brought up israel. check the gut level of boehner. this is typical of him. why didn't he say we should cut off traffic. now he is saying we should consider cutting it off. like we shouldn't take ground troops off the table. say what you believe. they said we shouldn't take it off the table. we shouldn't take it off the table. just say it. talk like donald trump if you're going to pre ten you're donald trump. >> leadership. >> john boehner personally has his head looking over his right shoulder. he always has to worry. >> is that a disaster. the roundtable is coming back with trackers. a little lightning subject. these guys, men mostly who go around with cameras, flips or cheap cameras and watch every word a politician says so they can screw the guy. we'll be right back. huh? 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why do you have that belt? i always think, i can't -- take the belt off. take the hat off. the shoes off. what? >> you don't want to get -- >> somebody makes a phone call that has an ebola connection, it ought to go to somebody who knows about ebola. who knows where that call went? >> like if she call get on a pl. if she called the cdc -- and i hadn't heard that, why didn't they say stay where you are and we'll come get you. >> here's what you do, you won't get it unless the following happens. but this will happen if you do it. you will get it if you do the wrong stuff here. >> it's very hard to spread. >> we keep saying that. >> but it goes to the failure to have a surgeon general. they don't have a lot of power, but they do have the power to speak to americans and say, you should believe this, you shouldn't believe this. there hasn't been someone to fill that role this time. >> we've got to lighten up before you leave with something upbeat. politics have had speech writers for years, every gimmick and we all play these parts, you are a straight reporter, you have, too. the operator is a guy they call the tracker. the tracker is like somebody out of "m.a.s.h." you go out with a flip camera and all day long you do this to the candidate. after a while, he or she realizes you're there. some of them become friends, like a bromance because they're always together. isn't that great? this one guy, tim pawlenty when he ran for president and lost, he went up to the guy who had been tracking him looking for him to make the littlest mistake and said, i hope you go someplace great next. he rooted for his career. yet the kid knew his best day would be his worst day, that he caught him doing something wrong. >> the kid in school who says i want to grow up to be a tracker. trackers have had enormous impacts on campaigns. in the senate. might have run for president. >> bruce braley running in that tough race against joni ernst, the castrater in iowa. let's take a look at wa he got in trouble for. >> a farmer in iowa who never went to law school, never practiced law. >> people may not really hate lawyers till they hear somebody talk like that, then they go, you know, i really do hate lawyers. there's a guy saying how dare this farmer be on the -- >> he might as well have gone to cambridge and said, how can you elect a professor to the senate. >> the virginia state senate race a couple of years ago. george allen, the son of the famous football coach. he was -- well, here he was being trailed relentlessly by this young kid. >> this fellow over here with the yellow shirt, macaca whatever his name is, he's with my opponent, he's following us around everywhere. and it's great. you are having it here on film. and show it to your opponent because he's never been there and probably will never come. let's give a welcome to macaca here. welcome to america and the real world of virginia. >> well, the young kid, the tracker in this case was of south asian descent, dark skinned and he was calling him a monkey basically in some kind of language, idiot. >> when you're being tracked, do not use a racial slur. >> write a book about that. >> i don't think he thought it was, by the way. i think he heard the term and he didn't know. >> number three, tim pawlenty, sometimes that tracker was the only person at his events. he was grateful. >> you know the old meetings of the communist party that the only agents there -- >> you get moments of candor on the campaign trail, when they do happen, they're viral in minutes and they can sink your campaign. >> one of the great moments was mitt romney learning the game a little late. i like it when you tell me the recorder's on. and i want you to keep it on because i want to know i'm always on my game. don't ever get this, oh, it's off the record. because that's where you get in trouble. >> he was using that actually on the campaign trail. go look at that caucus documentary, it's in the trailer. he was saying that from the podiums. >> but there wasn't a bartender to catch it. no, the bartender guy who really didn't like him set that thing up. make friends with bartenders. way back, tom dewey, he yelled at some engineer when he abruptly moved the train. somebody ought to fire that idiot engineer. ebb in america heard that. he was finished. >> you go to mitt romney rallies, they were just sitting there because they heard the speech a million times. you go to santorum's and the supporters looked like meth addicts. they didn't know what was going on. because he shot from the hip. >> remember when bob dole said stop lying about my record which was the beginning of the end of bob dole. he told me he thought this was before the show had begun and he wasn't on the record. >> he was talking to tom brokaw. and he said -- trying to be very convivial, you ddo you have a me about the guy that just beat you? 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