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MSNBCW First Look May 5, 2020

Good tuesday morning, everybody. It is may 5th. Im yasmin vossoughian. Weve got a lot to cover this morning, as we always do. The president pushing states to relax social distancing guidelines. New scientific models are projecting sharp increases in the number of deaths from the coronavirus over the next few weeks and months. One projection from an internal Trump Administration document obtained by the new york times, the other from a Public University of washington model often cited by the white house. First, the government projections. I want to show you these. The data showing the daily death toll will nearly double from about 750 deaths currently to about 3,000 a day on june 1st. New cases are projected to go from about 25,000 a day to 200,000. The president was asked about the report in an interview with the New York Post and he said, quote, this. I know nothing about it. I dont know anything about it. Nobody told me that. I think its i think its false. I think its fake news. The white house put out the following statement, as well. This is not a white house statement nor as it gone through interagency reflecting. This is not data the task force has analyzed. The other set of data from the institute of Health Metrics and evaluation at the university of washington has been cited by the white house. Researchers there have doubled their projections to 135,000 deaths by early august. Back in april, they predicted just over 60,000 by august. With the u. S. Now approaching 70,000 deaths, weve already blown past that estimate and its only may. The institute says the revised numbers are because people are moving around more and because social distancing guidelines are being relaxed. The white house is seeking to limit Agency Officials, including Coronavirus Task force members from testifying before congress this month. The white house set new guidance to Congressional Staff members yesterday citing the, quote, unprecedented times. For the month of may, no Task Force Members or key deputies of Task Force Members may accept hearing invitations. The guidance notes that some exceptions may be made by white house chief of staff mark meadows. One exception will be a Senate Help Committee meeting next week where dr. Anthony fauci is set to testify. Dr. Fauci will appear along with several other members of the Coronavirus Task force. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer put out a statement in response to the white houses new guidance saying this, President Trump should learn that by muzzling science and the truth, it will only prolong this health and economic crisis. The president s failure to accept the truth and then his entire to hide it is one of the chief reasons we are lagging behind so many other countries in beating this scorge. And senator schumer will be a guest this morning later this morning on morning joe. White house trade adviser Peter Navarro spoke yesterday about death projections with the virus and deaths associated with the lockdown through suicide, depression, alcoholism and drug addiction. Watch this. The original death estimate was about 2 million americans dieing in the absence of any kind of mitigation or containment. It was a manufactured recession that we faced and the estimates would basically take that down to 100 to 200,000 deaths. And that is a number that is still out there. We know what the numbers are today. Were just moving through time. Were trying to simultaneously protect the American People from the effects of the china virus killing them directly. But its also true that the lockdown indirectly kills americans through economic effects with higher suicide rates, depression, alcoholism, drug addiction and all that. So amid groegz appreciate to ease stayathome restrictions, california governor Gavin Newsome announced that some Retail Stores across the state can reopen with specific guidelines as soon as friday. New changes are part of a fourstage plan laid out last week to gradually transition the businesses allowed to reopen under the phase two guidelines will include book, clothing, toy, Sporting Goods stores as well as music shops and florists, but will not include malls, services or sitdown services in restaurants. Newsome says its happening because it can happen. The government acknowledges the coronavirus deaths slowly declining across california. Lets get into some of this. Joining me now, gabby orr. Good morning to you and great to see you on this tuesday morning. I want to start with our top stories and pretty astounding stuff that broke yesterday. The Trump Administrations leaked death projections which say up to 3,000 people could soon be dieing each day from covid. That is a lot more than is happening today. This comes. I think a number of officials are concerned about the approach the president is taking to reopen. The economy, he has let states what to do individually and we wont know the impact of that without widespread testing for a while. Right now, the white house is struggling to scale up its testing so that we can get people back to work, get businesses reopened, but not pem put people at risk of contracting this illness while theyre going back to work, while theyre going out to Different Stores and restaurants. So that is the primary concern. And i think that that has only been elevated as weve seen these projections where, you know, right now we are currently at around 2,000 deaths per day or approaching that number and by june 1st, we could be at nearly 3,000 deaths per day, which is a Staggering Number to really fully realize. And so i think the white house is adjusting accordingly. And in spite of states opening, as you said, we are still not where we need to be with regard to testing, even though we are seeing states across the country open every single day. Lets talk some polling here, gabby, while i have you. Biden versus trump matchup. As youre looking at some of the polling across some of the key battleground states, like wisconsin, florida, michigan, im taking a look at it, the latest cbs news polls you guys see on your screen here. You have donald trump at 43. You have joe biden at 49. And across the board, if were looking at a lot of other polls that were seeing, as well, from a yougov poll to an nbc poll, as well, the numbers are consistent. The results are consistent. All of these polls, obviously, taken during a time in which the Trump Administration has been criticized in its response to the coronavirus pandemic. Are they panicking . There is a lot of internal tension inside the Trump Campaign over how to respond to this moment. Primarily because of what theyre seeing in the polls. And one of the reasons for that is just the amount of exposure that voters have had to do president over the past several weeks. Hes been at these daily Coronavirus Task force briefings, which have obviously been scaled back over the past week for this exact reason. And hes been making, you know, false statements, projections that have proved to be untrue and taking all those factors into account, it really is having an effect on the way voters view him, particularly older americans. So that is why youre seeing the president hold events like he did last week with senior citizens, with older americans, its why the president will be travel to go arizona today to start touting the administrations partnerships with the private sector. Hell be touring a honey well plant in phoenix to talk about their production of n95 respirators. Its one of the reasons why Vice President mike pence was travel to go indiana last week. I was with him when he toured a ventilator Production Facility in cocmo, indiana. So theyre trying to get back out there on the trail to use a rose garden strategy, if you will. Use the fact that theyre incumbents, they have these official back drops and theyre hoping that will boost their poll numbers. But the campaign is certainly divided over how to respond and whether this strategy will work. Its going to be a tough road ahead, especially if those numbers from coronavirus deaths continue to tick upwards. In spice of the fact that we have states reopening. Gabby orr, thank you. Stay close. Going to talk to you again in just a little bit. Still ahead, the latest in the battle over strict stayathome orders. Maryland governor larry hogan is now facing a legal challenge. Plus, the senate is refusing Vice President joe bidens requests to search for an alleged complaint. Were going to dig into the details of that story, plus a check on your weather when we come back. 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Churches, businesses and state delegates are all banded together to file a federal suit on saturday. They argue that republican governor larry hogans executive orders violate freedom of assembly and religion. The right to protest, and the right to participate in commerce. The suit is claiming the governor is arbitrarily choosing which businesses and what gatherings are exactly essential. Big box stores, the filing is saying, are, quote, permitted to have hundreds of cars and people because the governor chose them to be essential. However, under the same orders, a church may not have anyone in its buildings with limited exceptions for virtual surfaces. Republican state delegates also argue restrictions on travel violate their duty to oversee the actions of the governor. Joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. Great to see you this morning. Lets talk through some of this. And i feel like every day we are talking about a new iteration of a suit across this country because, literally, all over the country, you have suits challenging bans on inperson religious services and stayathome orders, as well. But in this state in maryland, you have state delegates claiming they cannot perform their duties to oversee the State Government when their jobs are deemed nonessential, which actually ties directly into the fact that it is the governor who decides who and what is essential. Talk about that argument, danny. That classification of essential versus nonessential is the plaintiffs in all of these lawsuits best hope for overturning any of these stayathome orders. The Supreme Court has held since 1905 that the governments and the State Governments and local governments have considerable power, almost unfettered power to control the public during times of pandemic. There have only been a few times the federal courts have said that the governments have gone too far. One example was many years ago during a bubonic plague outbreak in san francisco, a federal court found the government went too far when they sealed off a whole area of chinatown. But thats an exception to the general rule that the governments have broad powers. However, once they start classifying, once they start deeming some businesses essential and nonessential, then they may be favoring some kinds of speech, some kinds of assembly over other kinds of assembly. Thats exactly what the plaintiffs are saying. Look, if you can have these big grocery stores, these super markets have parking lots full of people on the weekendses, why cant people go to church and express their religious rights. So those classifications are their best shot. Of course, the governments are going to argue, look, were not discriminating against any one religion. Were saying all religioustype services have to be curtailed. Meanwhile, people need to eat. Thats something totally different. But that essential classification is going to be the best route for a challenge. So the Governors Office is responding to this suit. And they have been saying the overwhelming majority of marylanders support the governors orders here. Is public support a Strong Defense . Not to courts. And particularly not to federal courts where judges are not just appointsed, theyre appointed for life. And the reason that is so they would be immune to the ebbs and flows of the popular opinion of the time. Any federal court and any court looking at this will balance out the needs of society as a whole versus the needs of the individual. Danny cevallos, my friend, thank you, as always. Great to see you. Still ahead, the coronavirus death toll in britain continues to climb, but the British Government is facing increasing pressure to find a strategy for reopening. Were going to go live to london, next. 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New this morning, the uk now appears to have the highest death toll in europe, surpassing italy. We want to get right to willem marx. This is not a milestone. The uk wanted to hit. But it has. Talk us through this, where we are with the numbers now in the uk with so many individuals now dead from the coronavirus. Well, one of the challenges, yasmin, and you hear this from governments across europe, but particularly here in the uk is making National Comparisons between the uk, say, and italy. As of april the 24th been the number of recorded deaths in england, wales, scotland, Northern Ireland xien now mucom much, much higher than italy. Some of the other countries in italy and germany are now more updated than here in the uk. And theyve been changing way they can play the numbers. But for the british scientists, they weeks ago were keen to highlight the fact that britain was lower down this awful fatality order than countries like italy and spain. That is no longer something theyre highlighting at all. And its largely because the number of deaths in care homes besides just hospitalrecorded deaths has climbed extraordinarily high. The government has faced a huge amount of criticism for not looking after the staff in case homes as well as the residents and a lot of scientists, medical experts saying thats one of the major reasons, that lack of priority given to this is care homes that weve seen such a huge number of deaths in the last few weeks. So in spite of these huge numbers, willem, you still have the Prime Minister wanting to lay out a plan as to when to start to reopen the country. Talk us through this and what we expect to see from this plan and when, in fact, this could feasibly be instituted. Well, as of this coming sunday, well get definitive ideas from the government about how they expect workplaces to reopen. Some of them have been floated. Some of them have been leaked to National Media here. And theres a lot of discretion given to employers. Its made the trade unions here incredibly uncomfortable, the idea that people would not necessarily be forced to institute things like glass between work spaces, two meters distance if it proves difficult to do so. And talking to the epidemiologists at a time when the scientific advice itself is being questioned, weve heard some scathing criticism of what the government has done in the past and what theyre willing to do. Take a listen to whats with been said about what has been failing so far. We should have continued with our containment policy, as ive always referred to it as. Identify the cases, pull

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