difficult for lgbtq+ people just to live. and yet, here we are. seeing the right of our community members diminish. their voices are silenced, they're very identities denied. our nation has made great strides with filling the fundamental promises of freedom and equality for lgbtq plus americans, but lately something has changed. the arc of progress is bending in ways we did not think possible just five years ago. unjust ways. so far this year, more than 520 anti lgbtq bills have been introduced in state legislatures. that is a record. more than 220 of those bills, specifically, targeted transgender and non-binary people. also a record. and an unprecedented 70 anti lgbtq laws have been enacted just this year. in the past, we have put together pride specials celebrating lgbtq+ individuals and their achievements, first in the white house and then on the stage and screen. achievements that deserve to be celebrated. but tonight, as that progress is threatened like never before, we are going to do something different i am jonathan capehart and welcome to msnbc's defending pride. for the next hour we are going to highlight the brave people fighting this hate, refusing to back down and make sure that their rights are guaranteed, no matter how hard the bigots try otherwise. i will speak with marty gold cummings, the drag star who is defending their art form from criminalization. state representatives -- embryonic to tone who are defending their voices in platforms in state legislatures. raven's ammonia and julianna -- to queer women of color defending lgbtq plus representation in the media and who just made history making the first out character on the disney channel. and kelly robinson, president of the human rights who is literally protecting the right of queer people to exist. but first, to the breaking news of the night, the supreme court has ruled in favor of a website designer who wanted to deny her services for same-sex weddings, despite no one asking her to provide such a service. in this 63 decision the disservice of -- conservative led court -- to refuse to serve members of a protected class based on religious beliefs, essentially legalizing discrimination against the lgbtq+ community. in her dissent, justice sonia sotomayor wrote, quote, today the court, for the first time in its history, grants a business over to the public a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class. i'm joined now by rashad robinson, president of color of change and jennifer pies, or the chief legal officer of land at legal. thank you both very much for being here. rashad, as i said just now, for the first time in our history the supreme court has granted businesses open to the public a constitutional right to discriminate against would be customers. your reaction to that? >> well, this is the result of a deep level of investment in infrastructure and power building by right wing billionaire forces and we are seeing the results of it. ten years ago, right around this time, when we saw the supreme court strike down doma and open up the defense of marriage act and open up and expand the rights for more couples to be recognized, that same season we saw that same court takeaway section five of the voting rights act. so what we know is that progress is not a straight line and if we do not fight and defended, our opponents oil constantly chip away at it. it also teaches us that they are coming for all of us in a deeply coordinated way, so we cannot go off and fight to our own individual battles, we cannot fight battles to protect holman's right to choose, fight battles for voting rights and affirmative action, fight battles over here for lgbt equality because their infrastructure is aligned and coordinated and they are going to come after each and every one of us. just when we thought that our rights were secured in the lgbtq space, they are following the same exact playbook that has taken on voting rights and so many other things. so this is why we have to be vigilant and not think that these victories are solid without the investment in organizing, in media, and narrative and power building >>. these victories are guaranteed. >> jenny, the conservative court says this is about preserving a business owner's freedom of speech, whether or not you agree with that business owner's decision, they have the right to make it. your reaction? >> well, to me it seemed like, first of all, it was no big surprise unfortunately. in front of this court, there has been attacks on multiple different essential rights. for the lgbtq community we see a whole series of decisions where, whatever the legal issue was, the person coming from a religious perspective, asking for a right to discriminate for religious regions, they keep winning. so today it was not a surprising result, it was about speech not about religion, but it came to the court with, essentially fantasy -- because there's no dispute that had happened. from the same group, the so-called alliance defending freedom, that has dozens of these cases in the courts, has had dozens of these cases, they brought masterpiece cake shop. they didn't get everything they wanted and they keep coming back for more. it's the same playbook we've seen over the years, the chip, chip chipping away of abortion rights, the chipping away of a formative action and we know with the end goal is. what is especially important, and i could not agree more is what rashad just said, we are all affected. all of our rights are at stake and, in fact, the gorsuch decision to -- the legal standard is the same for all types of discrimination, there's not a different standard for anti-gay -- it might seem like good news but that everybody has less rights, and so this speech was used for the first time to give a business business the right to say, well, it does my speech. forget that it is actually the speech of the customer, forget that this is actually great art, it is a website. it does not great art, and it is the customer's message that we have seen this court go to some significant lengths, twisting and discarding decades of doctrine to get to the result that we know it was actually bought and paid for by the people that stacked this court. >> you know, rashad, the special is titled -- how you act to protect lgbtq customers and customers of all backgrounds. we have to hold elected officials accountable, and do we also have to recognize that -- is not unprecedented but it is the result of a deep level of corruption and a lack of oversight, if we do not fight for the type of reforms in the supreme court, whether it is expansion of the court, whether it is a number of other things that are on the table right now in conversation, we will continue to have a set of people that can take money from corporations, take free trips and then put their hands on the scale for the powerful and the elite. at the end of the day it ends up, it does not matter what we do know action, if we have these nine folks who can -- >> write, and jenny your work with land of legal has been important in protecting the rights of the community. what message do you have for them as the ruling comes down on the final day of pride month? >> yeah it was pretty insulting of got to say. well, i think the thing to keep in mind, look, the decision that we received today did not take away all the rights. one more step down a very dangerous path, the goal of which is to take them away. we need to have them as our wake up call, it is the result of decades of work by our opponents to stack records. we need to get up off the couch, organize as rashad said, participate, know that we can fight back and we can change the composition of the court -- we can change the composition of the lower court by expanding, which is very important to do. do not take the message that we have lost. today's decision actually was on a fantasy -- of non existent fact, to when a business is basically acting like a fine artist. that doesn't happen realize, puck if we take the message that we've already lost, we will insist on recognition of the rights that we still have. we want the message to this court that we are -- they will not continue to have the power that they have as their public rating continues to plummet because they are putting the american society in danger, whether it is our basic fundamental rights, whether it is guns, the environment, they are out of step with the american public and what we can do things about it. >> we have not lost, but we have to fight. jennifer reiser, rashad robinson, thank you both for your time. ahead, the state lawmakers defending their voices in legislative chambers and working to change the hearts and minds of their colleagues across the aisle. rory turner and brianna -- join me next. join me next (jennifer) the reason why golo customers have such long term success is because the golo plan takes a holistic approach to weight loss. we focus on real foods in the right balance so you get the results you want. the release supplement makes losing weight easy. release sets you up for successful weight loss because it supports your blood sugar levels between meals so you aren't hungry or fatigued. golo is real, our customers are real, and our success stories are real. we have a 98% satisfaction rating. why not give it a try? 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>> realistically, i think the power that we built and bring a lot of us are the first or one of the few in our legislatures, and so when we see more folks have continuously been and power that key progress from happening, community care from happening, when they see the power and people we bring to the capital to fight for our everyday rights, they get a little worried about that. i think that is one of the biggest deterrents right now, and it is a -- authoritarian rule. >> so, then, representative turner, how are you fighting these efforts to silence to voice? >> we are going to keep showing up like we always have done, right, i knew when i was elected back in 2020 that the majority of my work would not just be writing and voting for legislation in these walls, it would also be the community we built. the efforts to hold in mutual aid, community care, and so having those tough conversations like -- is one of the most progressive places to live in oklahoma, so we get to have those deep conversations about what policy and liberation look like together, right, and so we continuously still get to write legislation, pushed forth in the committee we just don't get the top in the committee here in oklahoma. so, we will continue to bring those important conversations about how we care for oklahomans across the board, and not have to pick and choose the liberation with us. >> so representative, let me bring into the conversation you have said you have worked hard to find common ground at the colorado state capital, urging fellow lawmakers to understand the consequences of the rights of transgender people. could you expand on that? >> you know, there is a lot of lack of political courage in a lot of the state capitals. that is why there is an overwhelming bipartisan -- partisanship on the votes of these laws that are being passed against trans people. we need to build that political courage up by getting these folks to understand what is really on the line. when i talk to my colleagues, and they say things on the house floor that are just completely inflammatory in full tropes, i try to educate them as to why what they said is dangerous, and what those ramifications are -- i just see the kinds of things being posted there, to show that when people sprinkle death threats in between just horrible comments, then there is real consequences to the actions they have. i want them to really think about what it is that they can do to have political courage and stand up to these things. they are just going along with the political way of thinking on these issues. we need to stop that. >> well, you are in a different situation, as a democrat in colorado, you are the states first transgender lawmaker but there is a democratic super in the state house, so you can't be silenced by the right. that has not stopped you from reaching across the aisle, and working to not only change their hearts and minds, but also their support for legislation that would make colorado's state for trans people. talk about your efforts, and have you brought anyone from the other side of the aisle along? >> unfortunately we haven't. and, there were a few people that i thought i could sway to go and vote with us on that, but they were not able to do it. there was another instance where, there was an amendment to the resolution for the e.r. a that said we should exclude trans people. some of the republican colleagues who i was communicating with by text, they were upset about this. but ultimately, they still push the s button and supported these amendments to ban chants people from the resolution. and, this is the problem that i know deep in their heart, they do not believe in the stuff. but, they are afraid to go against their, party because their party wants the primary them and get them out of office for not doing and toeing the party line. that is where we really need to focus. it is to get those people to get that political courage, so they can start doing the right thing and protecting the people who need protecting. >> representative turner, we do not want this conversation to just be reactive to bigot. so talk to us about the honor and responsibility of being the first publicly non-binary u.s. state lawmaker. >> i guess, first of all, it just a true honor. i think as a community organizer, i understand that i did not get here or any place in life by myself, it was the work of the people of house district 88, we ran a people-centered campaign, and we continue to do so with every, not just during a campaign cycle, but during all the legislation in conversations we have about what is next. and i spoke a bit earlier right, but my job relies so much further beyond these four walls, or the oklahoma legislature, nika's each week, this session right, we saw more and more chance two-spirit nonbinary gender nonconforming folks come down to the capital. and, it is apparent with the -- facebook, instagram, twitter, that folks are excited to have a presentation even if it is not -- the do not physically live in house district 88. i remember back in -- i got dms from folks who did not even live in america about how important this representation is. so it is a very humbling honor, it will be the greatest honor of my life to be able to serve the people of house district 88, but also in ways very heavy because it means that oftentimes we are in these spaces, with a fifth vitriol. representative -- talking about the comments, the phone, calls the, voicemails the real threat to our everyday, lives it is also very real as well. and, it is a lot to have to sit with as well. >> i would love to get your thoughts on visibility, especially you are the states first out trans lawmaker, what does it mean to you to be an example for others? >> well, i mean, you look at what is going on right now, we are under a microscope, all trans people are under a microscope, we saw that happen at the white house last week, we have to show that we are here to do the job, and to do the work and especially as a state representative, we represent all the people that we have in our districts, and being a chance person who is six testable in her job, and doing this kind of work, is really just to show all of those youth and even adults who don't see themselves in these positions to say, you, know i can do this kind of work, and she is showing me that that can be done. i ran for office because -- won her election in virginia in 2017. it is those kinds of examples that further encouraged to be yourself, to be visible and to be in the community, and that is what we need right now. . >> colorado state representative breonna titone, and oklahoma -- law returning, thank you both for your time. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> up next, defending drag, -- on fighting the efforts to criminalize their art. think you're not at risk? 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(soft music) marty gold coming is one of the most vocal in, politically engaged names in drag. they are nonprofit boards to assist lgbt plus almost youth and the evening to be new york city's first out, nonbinary city council member. cummings is also no stranger to being targeted for their drug, a reality made even more acute as conservative states passed legislation to criminalize many drag performances. the freedom to express ourselves and our gender identity in creative ways of feels artistry across our country and culture and marty gold cummings is on the front lines, defending their first amendment right to that expression. marty gould cummings, thank you for your time. let's start with drag dance which is sweeping conservative states. talk about the harm being done to performers and the message that this sends to the broader lgbtq plus community. >> these drug bands are unconstitutional, as we have seen from the federal judges who are striking them down. i think the repercussions for drug artists is that, if they're in a state where they are not able to perform, that directly impacts their income, the local economy, and the venues that are hosting drag and then for these pride celebrations that have been canceled in different areas because of this, it signals that queer people are not welcome, which is a dangerous precedent to set. >> and drag bands seem to fit into the larger attack on transgender rights, no? >> yeah, these drag bands are rooted in transphobia because a lot of the language that is put into these different bills is targeting trans people, so it is gender-affirming health care for our kids that is under attack, it is mental health care services, it is banning even talking about who you are in your school, and then with these drag bands you can point somebody out on the street who is trans and say, they are in drag, which is not the case and then that is criminalized. it is really unsettling and makes it a really hostile place for queer people in our country right now. >> you are no stranger to attacks from the right, you are invited last year to the white house to attend president biden's signing of the respect for marriage act, with a landmark legislation protecting same-sex and interracial marriage rights like mine, i am in both a same-sex marriage and interracial marriage. you received death threats for doing so and were hit with false defamatory attacks from conservative news outlets. talk about that experience about being targeted for who you are. >> it was a really scary moment, i was so honored to be invited to the white house for the sister cull moment in our history. and to be a drag artist invited was something that i never imagined could happen, it was a huge honor. but to get death threats, my family got death threats, i got to death threats. it shows just how dangerous these bills are because it is a dog whistle to their base to attack queer people, trans people, drag artists. i just got a death threat a week or two or go that listed my address and it, which was incredibly terrifying to get. and then we are seeing the online behavior has gone off line into real life. i think it was an oklahoma where a drag story our was supposed to happen and that molotov cocktail was thrown through the window. what happened at club q or people lost their lives and where people were targeted in colorado springs. and then the proud boys showing up at drag story hours and different pride events. that online rhetoric has now transferred to realize, so it is a really scary time. but hope is a form of resistance, so we have to hold on to hope, we have to keep advocating for queer liberation and for all people within our community, but in particular are trans people, our grand kids, and are black and brown trans women who are targeted at unprecedented rates. >> let me squeeze into questions in the live time that we have left. as you know, drag is an art form that dates back more than a century. one, why are we seeing efforts to criminalize it now and, to, talk about the importance. why is it important to not only defend this art form, but to fight back against attacks on the art form? >> well, the first known drag artist in our country was william dorsey swan who is born into slavery, the first openly queer person to run for office in this country was jose -- who is a drag office who ran for the board of supervisors in san francisco. greg is rooted in queer culture and these bands are happening because the right has no platform to run on. wages are staying the same and cost of living is going up, kids are not being provided with meals in schools, there is no gun regulation or gun reform being passed. so they're using a bryant talking points from the 70s and 80s that was used to target gay people, -- we have to keep fighting because drag is a art form that celebrates our community and the different parts of our community, drag is amazing because there is no box to put it into. there is drag for kids, there is drag for adults, there is drag story our, there is drag at nightclubs. it is not a monolith, so we have to defend it because it is our first amendment right, we are artists, and when you start banning drug and banning books, what is the next art form that is going to be banned because the right does not like it? we have to keep fighting for it. >> marty gold cummings, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me, happy pride. >> happy pride. ahead, trail blazing on television. raven simona and julianna joel are standing up to critics in promoting a safe, respectful, pro-lgbtq message on a surprising platform, the disney zhao. disne zhao splash into savings with our 4th of july sale. blendjet gives you ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go, so you can soak up the sun with a frosty beverage. enjoy 15+ blends before rapidly recharging via usb-c. and it even cleans itself with a drop of soap and water. stand out even when you're accidentally twinning with our kaleidoscope of colors. don■t miss out on our best deal of the summer. visit blendjet.com to order yours. raven-symoné, that -- of the beloved that's so raven made history when it featured the networks first out trans gendered character in a live action program. that character, nikki, is played by actress julianna joel. in an emotional instagram post, the day she debuted on the show, joel wrote that i claim the dream and space for myself while so much of the world is trying to erase me and my community. and now, i get to be that person i wish i had to watch on tv growing up. that space was created with the help of queer actress and singer, raven-symoné, who has held ravens home for six seasons and has been a mainstay on our tv since she was a little girl. since coming out more than a decade ago and being married to miranda may day since 2020, the actress has said that coming to terms with her sexuality has always been a mental struggle and, because of that, she wants to create a space for others struggling with their identities. now, julianna joel and raven-symoné are both doing that on a network for young people. raven-symoné, julianna joel, thank you both for joining us. raven-symoné let's start with you. you're an executive producer on ravenshoe, may talk about your commitment to diversity and inclusion on the show and how conversations began that led to having a transgender character? >> well, it is very important to show representation on a show that i am a part of because i am a part of the lgbtq+ community as well as a black woman and it is very important that, in my role, of power and position, that i allow doors to open for all kinds of people. the conversation started in the writers room, we have a wonderful executive producers, and wonderful writers room that does fire divers and one of our writers who is also transgender to said, hey we need to show representation. they talked about nonbinary and this and that, but ultimately we came down, we need to show transgender characters and a positive light and not which such hustle and fuss about it. >> julianna, talk about the significance of this role for you personally and what it meant to you to be visible on a network like the disney channel? >> gosh, for me personally what this role ended up doing for me was, it made me into that person that i wish i had growing up on television. the person i wish we would've given me a glimpse into feeling validated and knowing that my experience was valid and that whatever i was aspiring to be, that it is actually possible. i grew up in a catholic puerto rican military family in florida, of all places, so i did not have a community around me. i did not have anybody in my family, a part of the community let alone and be on tv to really connect to. so to be on disney channel also and do it, i told raising the story, i'm doing a version of my favorite childhood show. raven was my best friend in my mind for years, and so to now be on a version of my favorite show and i get to do it authentically as myself on a network like the disney channel, it just, it is broken down those walls in my mind about what i am capable of, what time am deserving of, and that is what i hope kids seeing it will watch to know that they are valid and their experiences valid. >> you know, raven-symoné, you said a moment ago that representation in the right of ramadan borton. can talk about the importance of queer visibility in the media, especially for a younger audience like yours and especially when we are seeing a tax on the lgbt q plus a community in the classroom, libraries, state legislatures, and elsewhere. >> yeah, the cool thing about the entertainment industry is that it is supposed to reflect life. it is supposed to reflect what you are dealing with every day and if we do not show all kinds of people that we are not doing our job. because of the weather temperature around the lgbtq+ community and government and legislature at all of that, i think it is even more important that we present ourselves in a beautiful light, but it is also very important to show it in a, i'm going to call it an easy light. one of the things i love about her character is that it is not about her being transgender to, it is about her personality. there is literally one sentence in all of the episodes that says it, and raven just brushes over it. it is normalized, this is not saying how you should be, let's do this or do that, it's not that. this is who i am, this is who she is, and we are representing ourselves in that. >> you know, raven-symoné, you mentioned it earlier about also being a black woman, a woman of color. but that brings an added dimension to the need for visibility, no? >> i mean, yes, it is my responsibility because at some point with an hour history even black people needed to have representation in certain areas. and, the entertainment industry, i mean now we can look and we see target commercials with mixed race couples, not just black and, white but also indian, native american asian, and it is like exactly. if you want to attract a consumer, make sure that your consumer can see themselves. >> right. i mean, you know, exactly. and, julianna, the same question to you, do you feel even more need to be visible when conservatives are trying to silence voices like yours? >> absolutely. i mean, at the end of the day, i'm an actor, trying to live my life and do what i, love do i wish that my -- was not such a political statement yes because it can get exhausting but that is the reality. reality is that you know, the trans community, we are less than 1.8% of the population what people know about, us what people learn about us as what they see in media. so, it is important representation matters for that exact reason because it is how -- it is unfortunately how society gauges how they will treat us, respect, us except, us it is what they watch on the television. >> raven how can the entertainment industry improve or continue to improve in terms of diversity and representation? >> well, they can continue to create characters that are strong, that are multifaceted, and then higher all kinds of people to play those characters. you don't have to walk into the writers room like i will write a transgender character who is -- because at the end of the day everyone has triggers issues, and all kinds of mental problems and it doesn't matter what your gender expression, is what your sexuality is, it is about the talent. it is about the perseverance, it is about professionalism, so, open up these casting rooms, and also it is a part of the entertainment job to, like i said earlier, show representation of all scales. there are scales on everyone's title you know what i mean, even as a black woman we go from dark to chocolate all the way to white chocolate. and there's so many kinds and everyone deserves to be seen. there is enough views and -- >> julianna, let me give you the last word what message do you hope to send two young viewers who may be struggling with their own gender identity? >> i would just say that no matter what your experience is valid, and you are worthy of loving, of being loved, and know that if you are in a place or space where you do not have very close tangible influence of support know that there is a community out there that loves you and support, you and is cheering for you and is doing the work so that eventually we can all just live our lives like we want to. >> julianna julianna i get the feeling that you are going to be someone else's best friend from television the way raven was for you. raven-symoné, julianna, joel thank you both so much for your time. >> thank you for having us. >> yes, thank you. >> ahead, the president of the human rights campaign, kelly robinson on her organization's new emergency declaration for lgbtq+ americans. ricans ♪ breeze driftin' on... ♪ [coughing] ♪ ...by, you know how i feel. ♪ if you're tired of staring down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, ♪ ♪ it's a new day... ♪ ...stop settling. ♪ ...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy makes breathing easier for a full 24 hours, improves lung function, and helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand, and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy, and save at trelegy.com my active psoriatic arthritis can make me feel like i'm losing my rhythm. with skyrizi to treat my skin and joints, i'm getting into my groove. ♪(uplifting music)♪ along with significantly clearer skin... skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi 90% clearer skin and less joint pain are possible. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to skyrizi, there's nothing like clearer skin and better movement... and that means everything. ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time to ask your doctor about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. hey bud. wow. what's all this? 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>> because the opposition knows they are, losing the same horrific things we are saying about chance people, today they said about, lesbian, gay bisexual people 20 years, ago but now the respect for marriage act is the law of the land. the same horrific things being said about trans people, today they said about people living with hiv and a.i.d.s. 30 years ago, and now we dramatically reduce stigma, and we are within arms reach of ending the epidemic. they see that they are losing on so many of the social issues, and they are trying to draw wedges and divides. this is our time to tell them, no, enough, we are not going to stand for some of our community, or some of the lgbtq+ community, we will stand united for everyone. >> this special is titled defending pride, which you are doing wonderfully right now. protest about the importance of the visibility, of being out and open, and feeling safe to be out and open. >> it is so, so important. right now, it is not only the legislation we are, seeing but everywhere we go to feel safe as being targeted. i have heard stories of children's hospitals being threatened with bomb threats. targets getting bumped that's because of their allyship with lgbtq community. and the only way to combat, that is worth, love and visibility. right now, there is a stat that says more people believe they have seen a ghost than a trans person. that is shocking, and also dangerous right. because the lack of visibility makes way for fear. this is a moment for us to talk about the trans community, to be, open to share our stories as allies, so that we can create the visibility needed to change hearts and minds, and ultimately shift policy. >> okay, love and visibility, but more specifically, how is the human rights campaign fighting back in the broad sense? >> we are showing up. i mean, our work is about advocacy, and giving people power. so we have more than 3 million members all across the country that are ready to take actions on these issues. our community as did, up and make sure we and did need this criminal tory blood donation banned for gay and -- we came together to get the respect for marriage act across the line, and we are continuing to do advocacy in states, every state to push back on this onslaught of new pieces of legislation targeting the community, especially the trans community. we will not stop, it is so important this year that we take our power to the polls, and make sure we continue to have our voices heard, especially in this race coming up for the presidency. >> what advice would you give to people who want to join the fight? >> show up with us. you can always join the fight at -- and, the organizational support is important, but the number one thing you can do is tell your story. tell the lgbtq+ people, especially the queer, trans, non-binary youth in your lives, you love them. that you will stand for, them and you will fight with them no matter what. that fight can be done with a human rights campaign, and when you refused to be silent on these issues. >> before we go, you know, there are lots of people who are watching, queer people watching who are afraid. they are afraid of what is happening. they are afraid of what is to come. what is your message to them? >> i'm sorry. our country and you deserve better. but know this, there are more of us than there are of them. we are greater then -- and we will come together, in the long arc of, history we will win. >> kelly robinson, president of the human rights campaign, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> my final thoughts after a quick break. quick break. splash into savings with our 4th of july sale. blendjet gives you ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go, so you can soak up the sun with a frosty beverage. enjoy 15+ blends before rapidly recharging via usb-c. and it even cleans itself with a drop of soap and water. stand out even when you're accidentally twinning with our kaleidoscope of colors. don■t miss out on our best deal of the summer. visit blendjet.com to order yours. >> no one deserves to be discriminated against because of their identity, or to be targeted with -- because of their lived experiences. this is a difficult moment for the lgbtq+ community, but it is not unique. never forget that pride was inspired by the 1969 stonewall riots. at stonewall, the community stood its ground and defended its right to exist, free of fear, and judgment. today, the community is still fighting, and will do so until lgbtq+ people have freedom without exception. and, pride without exception. thank you for watching msnbc's defending pride, i'm jonathan capehart, goodnight, and happy pride. >> >> alex as the night off, and -- his name was --