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Transcripts For MSNBCW Deadline White House 20200817

Committed by Donald Trumps allies, House Democrats are can selg pl cancelling planes for break to try to rescue the Postal Service. Postmaster general agreed to testify before the House Oversight committee. That emergency hearing now set to take place a week from today. Moving up testimony that was scheduled for next month. While donald trump has been sow doubt about the legitimacy of the election for many months, the Postal Service functioning as a arm of his war on democracy has jolted democrats into action. Todays move is to restore the functionality of and confidence in the post office, follow warning the states that mail in ballots may not arrive in time to be counted. A development that the Washington Post reports may have already had Donald Trumps desire to fact quote thousands of voters have called government offices in recent days to ask whether its safe to mail their ballots. Attorneys general from six states are huddling to discuss possible lawsuits against the administration to block it from reducing mail service between now and the election. Several sources told the Washington Post. Its the kind of chaos and confusion that trumps critics have warned about over the course of his presidency each time hes trampled over another norm. Retire ed navy admiral, former commander of the u. S. Special operations wraarns this time th consequences could be catastrophic. He writes as trump seeks to undermine the u. S. Postal service and stop mail in voting, hes taking away our voice to decide who will lead america. It is not hyperbol toerks say the future of the country could depend on those remarkable men and women who brave the elements who bring us our mail and deliver our vote. Let us ensure they have every resource possible to provide the citizens of this country the information they need, the ballots they request and the Postal Service they deserve. Donald trumps war on an election that hasnt happened yet is where we start today. Dr. Jason johnson a professor at Morgan State University is here. Rick, i have to start with you. I wrote that, i read it but hearing it out loud is impossible for it to sort of sink in were talking about the news in america. These are headlines that youre used to reading in a third world country. How did we get here . Well, by the way, we need election observers in america. We do. Stand up to other people. I want to talk about, unraveling our institutions is what authoritarians do. Donald trump is trying to do that. Im so glad you mentioned congress coming back. I want to put a little historical context. The postal power is in the constitution that is given to congress. Congress needs to use it. Mail in ballots have red and blue voters. Im glad they are coming back. One of the ways we undermine trumps abilities to undermine our institutions is institutions Like Congress functioning. Im glad they are coming back and nancy pelosi has summoned them and they are suing the federal government. The federal government is a custodian for the Postal Service which congress operates. Theres so much to unpack there. I want to put a pin in the political conversation because im told that the new Campaign Manager is out of his mind. A word i cant say on tv that trump is undermining the mail in vote because trump needs a lot of mail in vote. All members of the military vote by mail. A lot of people in states that trump would need to vote for him, vote by mail. I want to go to the other development and the other sort of his ttorical echo with you jason. I think i was in one of these studios when jim comey, very reluctantly entered in a pretty large way into the 2016 election. You now have congressman jeffreys letter, a where for Christopher Wrey to do the same thing. I know none of us is postal law scholar here but its worth examining whether donald trump has so dismants led every institution including his own fbi that they cant look for crimes where crimes may exist, jason. This is why this is so problemat problematic. We have been talking about this for a long time. When trump first got into office and taked the cia and the fbi, we were concerned. On your show and several others. Hes really attacking the morale. That was just the beginning. First the morale. Then was forcing out or prrning out or out and out firing the people who would care about the integrity of institutions and then it became moving in his cronies. Whether that was getting rid of co comey or every other person. Hes tried to make every Single Branch of the government just as arm of his desire to stay in office. Talk about the fbi, cia, the post office. Think about this. Three years ago, we never would have thought the post office would have matter. It would have been the last thing we were concerned about. Just goes to show when you have a dictator come to power, an attempted dictator come to power, theres so much thing as an inimportant government agency. Everything can be weapon otherwiized when you have someone whose only goal is to stay in power. If you have to look into the way hes grown into the job, hes grown into what jason has described pst. Hes grown into an understanding of how to use it and bend it and krunt corrupt it to his political will. Here are the laws. The questions Law Enforcement will have to ask to see if there nst probable cause to investigation whether crimes were committed. Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of mail or any carrier carrying the mail shall be fined under this title or imprisoned. Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States or any department or agency thereof uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned. Donald trump has done both but far less grammatically correct on twitter in the last five days. Yes. Nicole, looking back at all of the times we saw him push and push and push to test whether or not he would get phone calls from Republican Leaders which we would find out about later and not in the moment, urging him to stop, that was the education process for him in 2017, 18 and 19. He extorted a country using congressionally approved funds. Congress se from that point forward we knew on february 5th what donald trump would do the rest of the year because no one has told him to stop. Its true that tampering with an election is a crime, slowing the mail is a crime. I dont know the fbi will come up with actual crimes here. Think about how politically destructive this is for the president. He did not wait till the end of september or middle of october. He told us last week he was doing this to undermine a balloting getting into the mail service and being counted which might help him get defeated. People are watching what are called cost cutting measures and seeing if shelving is removed and machines are removed are corner sidewalk mailboxes removed, that is not an administration trying to help its citizen vote or survive a pandemic. I just dont know how this does not boomerang on him in the weeks to come. Rick, do you know who is, im trying to think of Family Friendly use word to use. You know who is up bleep creek is mitch mcconnell. You know what else is on those ballots in mail, the votes for senate. Mitch mcconnell better start preparing for a downside. They have some nice little file folder boxes on wayfair he can shove all his papers in. He could lose the ma jurjority this single dirty trick out in the open. Democrats have asked the fbi to look at it. Mitch mcconnell should ask the fbi. If nobody votes by mail, he will be a very sad minority leader come november. Absolutely. In an era when so many institutions by congress have poor Approval Ratings, the post office, as challenged as it is, has a 77 Approval Rating in america. That means republicans and democrats love it. The post office may be the third rail of american politics for him. People are so much for it. Hes trying to undermine it at every which way and its going to boomerang against him as you said. The other people of election interference is around delegitimizing faith in the vote that does arrive in time. Jim baker and jimmy carter looked at this after 2000 and voter fraud is not a widespread thing. It just isnt. Here is mark meadows saying because it isnt, it is. He said while theres no evidence of fraud, quote, theres no evidence theres not either. Im not tall but theres no evidence that im not. What does that even mean . They are down to talking in nursery rhyme . Right. Nicole, it means were just going to cheat. Ive got a piece coming out tomorrow where ive done some research about how we got here. Part of why were in this situation how did we get here . Spoiler alert. Tell me. Its because out of the board of governors. We only had one member. There were certain democrats and republicans who kept blocking barack obama appointments with the board of governors. In early 2017, he demanded all this voting information from the states. Now, they using that information to go out and specifically target areas where they are trying to take away machines. They are taking mailboxes from specifically black and brown and democratic areas. This is not by accident. This goes back four years. Congress has to act and they have to act aggressively. Theres no greater concern they should have right now than fixing this problem and i go into the details and some of the people in congress and responsible. Who . There were several democrats and several republicans who kepkept blocking some of Barack Obamas nominees. There were concerns by senator sanders and mitch mcconnell. There were several nominees who were in favor of privatization. Sanders said the unions dont want that. The problem a lot of people dont understand is this youre required as the president to nominate both republicans and democrats to the board of governs. You cant have it dominate bid your own party. When anybody disagrees, you block the slate. We had no board of govrps. Trump comes in and fills it with his cronies. Thats why we cant get anyone to stop dejoy today. Hes got the people that have defended republicans that were ensnared in the scandal on speed dial. Sounds like he might need one. We dont know hes committed crimes but sounds like the democrats will press the fbi to ask the question and to investiga investigate. He is almost prototypical. Hes a megadonor. He had business conflicts of interest and almost the prototypical trump appointee. This is only one part of this mess with the post office. New americans will probably end up knowing about this with lewis dejoy and his wife having holdings in companies. Hes donated 2. 7 million to trump and republicans since 2017. Its going to be very interesting to hear his responses when hes in front of members of congress who will ask him why, as i mentioned before, removing machines and removing mailboxes helps fix the post office and create a better service. They are crippling it and pretending its to save money when its all we said a service thats not supposed to be a for Profit Service and should be aided more than ever in pandemic. Their reforms and Business Plans for the post office could have been two years ago or next year. Dejoy in the hot seat will be very interesting. The republicans will do what they can to help him out but i think its going to be very hard for him to describe why his efficiencies are helping the Postal Service along. Rick, there is in all of this this almost tacid concession from trump that he cant win this election fair and square. Ive worked on president ial campaigns that, i think ive said this, one that won, one that lost come election day but the polls must be confirmed by Donald Trumps private polling for him to be acting this way. To say today that he will not go quietly if he loses. To be literally lifting mailboxes off the streets of swing states, to be talking day in and day out about the mail vote being fraudulent. If you thought you had a chance of winning, you would be the one sending out more applications for mail in votes. Let me put up some of those polls that must match his internal polls. Nbc wall street journal has biden at 50. Trump at 41 and the battleground states that is largely unchanged with biden at 49 and trump at 42. This also probably explains some of the reporting in the times in post about his donors drying up. I think that a donald trump sure of his own defeat while alarming, is a riveting spectacle. All four of his have grieved the loss of norms. I think his conduct in the coming 80 days is on a different footing. Its heartening to see Kamala Harris smack down the birther lies and more speed than anyone has taken to the Donald Trump Campaign in a long time. I think youre right. He doesnt want the votes to be counted because he doesnt have the votes to win. Hes been doing everything he can to suppress the vote. The Republican Party and conservatives have been trying to suppress the vote for decades now because the votes are not on their side. I do think that most dangerous period will be that period after the election, before the results are tabulated. Those first few days, people cannot expect to have a result on Election Night. That is a very fraught period because you have a president who will hold onto power with any means necessary. Thats when we really, really have to be prepared. Thats when our institutions really have to be prepared fo function. Jason, other than trying to take down his wifi, how do you prepare for that . Honestly, responsibility starts with us. Whats gieng going to be key about Election Night will be messaging. Remember in 2018 we had the midterms and everybody talking about a waver and it didnt look like a wave that night but eventually Martha Mcsally loses and its going to take a while. Its going to require patience. If we go back to the year 2000, the fact that george bush was declared the leader first, thats what everybody remembers. Its going to be important for the press on Election Night to say hold on, calm down. Regardless of what donald trump says because you know hes going to claim he won. Hes going to claim he won no matter what the results are. No matter what joe biden says. We have to tell the American People to be calm, pashttient. The president will try to win a nar tifr battle that the longer this goes on, the more hes trying to be chaeated when the reality is, it will take a long tiemg. The most dangerous animal in the world is one thats wounded and hes bleeding now. Thank you. Another official from the Trump Administration speaking out saying he fears a second trump term but now is no time to be staying silent. Well talk with a member of the Senate Intelligence committee and about how dangerous it is that the commander in chief doesnt buy the warnings from his own intel community. Also, riding a wave of good buzz from his v. P. Selection in a steady surge in the polls. Joe biden all remote Convention Kicks off in a few hours. Well talk about Donald Trumps unsuccessful attempts to smear senator Kamala Harris and Michelle Obamas return to the president ial political stage stien tonight. Its not trumps attempts to meddle with the post office and sow distrust, donald trump is revealing his willingness to deploy a full arsenal of autocratic tools by distorting the functions of multiple agencies of the u. S. Government. All those stories still coming up. Government. All those stories still coming up a sluggish gut. Miralax is different. It works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. Free your gut, and your mood will follow. Im looking for my client. Imim so sorry. Nt. Hey hey man, youre here you dont trust me here in vegas, do you . Uh, well, i thought we had a breakthrough with the volkswagen. We did, yeah we broke through. Thats the volkswagen . Thats the cross sport. Wow. Seatbelts please just tell me where were going. 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