Probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest collusion so far. Or conspiracy. Completely made up, completely made up. Led to nothing. Except several fraudulent fisa wires. And now we have mueller who doesnt seem to care that hes sitting on top of a totally illegitimate investigation. But the thing about the dossier that she paid for and the fact that the fbi paid steele, it was designed to misinform the American People with russian lies, to influence the election. Yes. There is a great irony here if it wasnt maybe if mueller and his band of whatever they are, democrats, right . Were fair minded, maybe theyd investigate maybe thats the collusion. Maybe thats the collusion. Oh, my god. Rudy needs to check his Carbon Monoxide monitors. The sure Sign Team Trump knows there are problems. Look over there, the collusion, the obstruction, theyre
The latest Political Developments of the day and interviews with top newsmakers are featured. That is sort of what is at the core of all of this. Chuck, the tone and tenor as ashley is saying are wacky. The substance is fascinating to me. They have reupped and the tell in the conversation around flynn goes to the heart of the Obstruction Of Justice investigation, it would seem. Rudy giuliani saying that he cant take questions about flynn and i guess by extension about the request to former fbi director comey to see to it to let flynn go. That was the question that rudy said he could not answer, the president could not answer. Heres giuliani answering the question and telling us exactly his understanding of what happened with george stephanopoulous. Lets watch. How is he a good witness for the president if hes saying that the president was asking, directing him in his words, to let the Michael Flynn investigation go . He didnt direct him to do that. What he said to him was, can you comey said he took it as direction. Thats okay. By that time he had been fired. He said a lot of other things, some of which have turned out to
and if you have nothing to hide, then hide nothing. But this has been going on and on and on, nicolle, to the point it seems pretty clear to me that if mueller wants to hear from the president , its going to have to be pursuant to a subpoena under oath and in a grand jury. Now, of course, there is another question, which is would he be permit today do that. Would the Deputy Attorney general who is overseeing this Investigation Permit that. My guess is that he would. I hope they do. The mueller team, the investigators and the prosecutors, are entitled to all the lawful evidence they can acquire. And, paul butler, Rod Rosenstein has shown himself and deputy, on the side of the facts here. They have showcased, i guess, the indictments when mueller has had indictments. Rod rosenstein did that last Press Conference with some very, very, Thinly Veiled Swipes At The Circus atmosphere among the president s allies in congress. The attacks on the probe and whatnot. I wonder if you agree with
chucks belief or thesis that rosenstein would sign off on a subpoena for the president. I do. What the Deputy Attorney general has been doing is following the rule of law and the guidelines of the department of justice. So it is an unsettled issue with regard to the Supreme Court whether the president could be forced to testify in a criminal case. But if trump is subpoenaed by the president im sorry, if trump is subpoenaed by mueller, i think that rosenstein would enforce that subpoena. You know, giuliani says that hes concerned about perjury trap. Well, a, as chuck said, the way to get around that is for the client, in this case the president , to tell the truth. What mueller wants to ask is questions, say, with regard to flynn. Mr. President , when you told Mueller To Go easy comey. When you told Comey To Go Easy On comey, did you know that flynn had lied about his contacts with the russians . And if he did, thats not a
perjury trap. Thats a legitimate investigative question. Classic perjury trap is when you ask about something extra that doesnt have anything to do with it to try to trick the guy into lying. Classic example there, ken starr, hes investigating this failed Real Estate Transaction and he asks president clinton, did you have sex with monica lewinsky. He knows hes going to lie. Thats a trap. Asking questions about Obstruction Of Justice and perjury in the Mueller Investigation is not a trap. And they have all the questions. They know the areas. The flash points in the Obstruction Of Justice investigation are known knowns to the trump legal team. Its the effort to get jeff session s to unrecuse. The efforts to get comey to see to it to let mike flynn go. The flash points are known to them. So why is there so much anxiety all of a sudden now around these Obstruction Of Justice questions . Ive heard in the last week from people who have either been around this legal effort or
witnesses themselves that there are questions in the air about whether or not the president engaged in witness tampering, about whether he carried out or conducted himself in a way that suggested he has or may suborn perjury. There is question about the conduct in Office Around investigation of witnesses. The legal team is very aware of these things and very nervous about these things. That is being born out in the goal post being moved on a daily basis by Rudy Giuliani and jay sekulow about what would need to be required to have this interview occur. And their proposals are ones they know the special counsel is not going to agree to. It is an effort to in some ways, someone close to the white house said to me just today, the idea that were in a stall tactic now. They want to keep this going shall does that help mueller . Hes not racing the clock. Hes not up for midterms. They believe that mueller will adhere to the 60day rule or guideline. He doesnt have to, but he
day rule, not in the colder memo. It is clear to prosecutors around the country there is some rule, some guideline to which they must adhere. In my mind it was postlabor day. Jonathan is right. The day after the election, you hit the Pause Bulltton again, y restart the clock, you restart the investigation. And what do you think he meant by stay tuned . What is the president talking about . Is he bored in bedminster . Thats one of his phrases. Im sure hes not had a lot of structured time. Thats a good euphemism for the president watching tv and tweeting, structured time. Executive time. At maralago, aides get nervous. Hes not as well staffed. Friends come and go and makes suggestions. He gets revved up. It was bedminster he made the decision to fire james comey. It was bedminster when we heard about fire and fury, he bashed
mitch mcconnell. Stay tuned, it does seem like its one of those either for him, someone said its him perhaps suggesting again he could get involved and interfere, or at the very least, another Distraction Tactic and there will be some other uranium one style Messaging Muddle that will come up in the next couple weeks. Let me ask you about donald trump, jr. , another flashing yellow light around him in the president s circle and in legal circles is donald trump, jr. I believe this is your reporting, jonathan, that don juniors approach seems to mirror the fathers combative defiance. The enthusiastic reception he receives in republican strong holds. They are rallying around the president s criticism of the probe. Donald trump, jr. Can be subpoenaed, donald trump, jr. , can be indicted and donald trump, jr. Could also be pardoned by his father the president. That seems to be the possible path for his near future. Its easy to have a lot of bravado about the prosecution when daddy has pardon power. How many people can say ha . So i hope if im ever involved in a federal investigation, i not only am i allowed to see the questions they want to ask, negotiate over my potential interview, but also have the option of being pardoned by my dad. I hope that i am given those opportunities. I suspect i will not be. Your reporting . Certainly don junior is forging forward. He embraced the idea. Hes the more maga friendly of the trumps. He is particularly very conservative districts is seen as a big draw. Privately despite the president s bravado on twitter hes not concerned about don junior, all reporting suggests he is. So much of what weve seen from him the erratic tweets have been triggered by watching the coverage of the Manafort Trial and telling people around him that hes afraid that that could be don junior next. Even though hes saying i dont think he did anything wrong, but he thinks he could be the victim of overzealous prosecution and he could face jeopardy. Certainly the victim of a prosecution. So while don junior is getting his swag on, Robert Mueller is trying to decide whether to charge him with perjury for saying that his father didnt know about that meeting with the russian lawyer in advance. Right now mueller, we can assume, has that phone record which tells whether trump junior was calling his dad while trying to set up this meeting. If hes got that evidence, trump junior has bigtime exposure for perjury. Ashley parker, if stay tuned in the president s tweet this morning is one book end, your reporting last weekend about the president brooding and steaming and about to blow in part over his anxiety about his son is the other, and thats sort of the week in which were existing, what are your white house sources telling you about the president s State Of Mind as hes now sort of decamped in bedminster and sort of fuming and stewing all day long between golf games . Its interesting. To take the Manafort Trial, aides say theyre not
particularly bothered or concerned about that. Theyre kind of tuning in the way the rest of us are to see what the judge is going to do next. And you know, the latest drama with rick gates. But they do say it is affecting the president differently. He thinks its tied to him. He thinks its muellers attempt to embarrass him. Its something that makes him, you know, more skeptical of mueller and believe that theyre operating in poor faith. And the original story we did that seemed to prompt that tweet that all aides acknowledge was frankly helpful for no one except maybe mueller was that the president is, again, worried about his son. Family comes first. He loves him. He likes the fact that his jonathan wrote hes out on the campaign trail. Hes a good surrogate in the western states, some of the Second Amendment rights states. But hes worried about him. He recognizes his son has been drawn into this Probe Wittingly or unwittingly. He believes its only happening
because he is the president s son, which is and is not quite true. Hes the president s son who took that meeting at trump tower and hes upset. If he was just his son and hadnt met with russians to get dirt on hillary my hunch is hed be fine. Thank you for starting us off. The closest ally in congress when it comes to bashing him, the secret tape based on muellers report if republicans dont stand in the way. Also ahead the Trump Echo Chamber goes there. Remarkable comments from one of the president s highest profile supporters, an antiimmigrant rant that thrilled exkkk leader david duke. And the judge in the Manafort Trial says hes sorry for the kind of conduct we first reported on yesterday that isnt too late . All those stories are coming up. Lets begin. Yes or no . Do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet . Do you want 4. 95 commissions for stocks, 0. 50 Options Contracts . 1. 50 Futures Contracts . What about a dedicated service team
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mueller wont clear the president , were the only ones. Which is really the danger. Thats why i keep and thank you for saying it, we have to keep our seats. We have to keep the majority. If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away. All this goes away. There is so much to unpack there, including the apparent assumption by nunes that trumps hold on the presidency is hanging in the balance. Lets start, though, by zeroing in on these four words. Quote, if sessions wont unrecuse. Thats a statement thats bound to be of interest to the special counsel. According to a list of questions mueller wants to ask trump compiled by trumps own lawyers, two questions apply. What did you think and do regarding the recusal of mr. Sessions and what efforts did you make to try to get him to change his mind . It sounds like devin nunes might be able to shed some light. Chuck rosenberg and the panel are still here. Paul butler, its remarkable to me that this it has been reported, president president s lawyers are aware of the fact that Donald Trumps desire forJeff Sessions to unrecuse i dont even know if thats a thing. Is this to get his a. G. To unrecuse himself is one of the flash points in the investigation into the president. Its crazy. Especially when we remember what this investigation is about, is whether Republican Campaign operatives conspired with the russians to try to subvert our democracy and what chairman nunes is saying is i dont care if the russians installed donald trump as president. We need to keep him in office. So ive been reluctant to use the phrase constitutional crisis to describe whats going on. But if what hes saying is no matter what kind of evidence mueller turns in to congress, hes not looking at it, all hes trying to do is keep donald trump president. Then we have a situation in which the congress is not doing its Constitutional Responsibilities of checks and balances. Thats a big problem. Chuck rosenberg, i leave the
actual crimes to people like you. But political crimes are ones where you debase an institution for sort of craven political motives and thats what devin nunes has done to the House Intelligence Committee which in times of War And Peace have served important bipartisan check, really, on president ial powers. He has thrown that down the garbage disposal. Hes done it, aided and abetted by paul ryan. But now we have the why. Now we know why. Because without trump, all this goes away. What goes away . And what does that sound like to a prosecutor . Well, trying to make something go away when youre a prosecutor sounds like trying to tamper with witnesses, obstruct justice, do something to undermine the investigation. Just think about what he said, nicolle, if we can get sessions to unrecuse, first of all, im with you and paul. I dont even know what that means. Sessions recused himself because he had been a part of the campaign. He had met with russians, and he may have misled the senate
judiciary committee during his confirmation hearings. So those facts dont evaporate. They dont sort of go away over time. Those are facts and they remain, stubborn as they may be. I will say this one thing for mr. Nunes. What he said in private doesnt seem all that much crazier than what he says in public. Fair enough. Let me just say im in good company not knowing what unrecuse means. Paul, we know where it came, from it came from donald trump. Nick, now you have a real synergy once again. You had it on unmasking, on uranium one. You have it on every corrupt smear campaign, every play thats being run against the republicans running the justice department. It all has its roots and its birth in this nexus between the minds of donald trump and devin nunes. Look, its fascinating and you have to give the president credit on some level. He is a master brander. He has been able to make the entire party talk the way he does. Its seeped down from the white
house to kevin mccarthy, to devin nunes.