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MSNBCW Dateline Extra May 4, 2020

A new report from the Washington Post details 34 days of this pandemic. According to the post, the president desperately tried to get us back to business without building the Public Health infrastructure that experts have been clamoring for. Texas is among the states ending some lockdowns. Movie theaters were able to reopen as of friday. The day before texas reported its highest singleday death toll. Reaction to this appear mixed according to the latest dallas news ut tyler poll. Half of texans said they are not yet comfortable shopping in malls and stores. They expressed more comfort in going to work or dining out. The poll also showed that texans are split on approving of how President Trump is handling this outbreak. But the Administration Says this has been a success. Heres what President Trump said tonight at a virtual town hall. What i did is i warily, i closed our country to china. Nancy pelosi was a month later saying, its going to pass. Everybody, even tony fauci was saying its going to pass, not going to be a big deal. Plenty for us to discuss. Lets dive in with tonight apartments panel. Jeff mason is a White House Reporter for reuters. The executive for the mobile app quibby. And senior political analyst Jonathan Allen. Glad to have all of you with us tonight. Jeff mason, let me start with you. Where do we read the president s perspective now on this crisis and the path forward . How much has it changed in the last week or so, and how much is the same . Well, thats a good question, joshua. I think the president is certainly focused on seeing this country reopened and hes been focused on that for sometime. Took some controversy because its easy to forget now. Weeks and weeks a go he was saying lets get the country open by easter. That, of course, wasnt possible because the virus was still spreading. And the virus is still spreading now, so the question is will the states follow the guidance that the president s Coronavirus Task force has put forward in terms of staged openings . And how will that affect the economy and how will that affect him politically Going Forward . Shawna, the post quoted a Senior Administration official as saying the doctors and scientists advising the administration had, and the officials words, a bit of a god complex. This person went on to say these advisors are, quote, science, science, science, which is good, but sometimes there is less of a consideration of politics than maybe there should be, unquote. There is a real tension between keeping people safe and getting people back to work. Shawna, how do you think that tension will evolve from here . I mean, its pretty clear that the president wants people to get back to work. He wants to reopen the country. But even as we saw in the town hall as people were asking questions that fox news had gathered, he was also putting it back in the hands of the states. He was saying that he was answering questions basically saying, hey, that kind of question depends on your governor. I think one of the things, that tension youre seeing in politics, one of the ways hes working through it, is to make sure you know that the governors are responsible im not saying theyre the only ones responsible, but i think that is kind of one of the tactics he is using. And as things open up, and if things go well, hell get to say, hey, i put the plan together that these governors used and be able to use that. If something goes wrong in one state, hell be able to say, hey, that governor didnt follow the plan. Jonathan, let me play another cut from the town hall that aired this evening on fox news regarding the administrations efforts. Here is an exchange between the president and brett baird. It is. When you look at the other side, that youre on the other side medically, do you think that as deaths are going up and cases are going up, that we really are on the other side medically and that this is a Great Success story from the federal government . Well, its too soon to say that really i guess because were still in the middle of something. Certainly we would have lost a lot more people, brett, if we would have done as an example, you call it herd. If you had done herd in other words, everythings wonderful, lets keep going. Herd immunity. We would have lost a million people, 1 1 2, 2 million people. The American People have done a good job. This is a tragic situation. Tragic indeed. How do we read the president s argument this was a success . Its an incredibly low bar he set for himself, joshua, if he had done absolutely nothing, if the presidency had been vacant more people would have died than with him as president. Thats probably not the Campaign Slogan you would imagine a president would want to run on. As far as success goes, there are things that the administration has done with President Trump kicking and screaming effectively to limit to mitigate the death and the spread of the disease. I mean, for example, i really didnt want to put out that state home guidance for very long. As jeff pointed out, he had hoped to lift that by easter. You can only imagine what the fatalities would have looked like by now if they had actually followed through with that plan. Some of my colleagues at nbc, phil had been reporting on whats going on inside the administration as this reopening plan goes forward. In draft documents that we obtained, there was talk from people at fema, hhs, the Defense Department basically on the task force saying they were very concerned there arent enough tests. Very concerned about a possible, quote, catastrophic resurgence of the disease, and concerned that theres no treatment. Jeff, we know that President Trump is going to tout the economy as a core tenet of his reelection case. Now, were six months from the election so theres a lot of daylight between now and november 3rd. But are there any early indications of how thats working for him . Well, i think theyre watching the polling closely and i think that youve seen just in the last week both by being at the white house like i am and the people watching the white house from afar, that theyve had to chase their communications strategy. The president s strategy of Holding Daily briefings and touting whatever he wanted to tout, be it his very highly criticized comment about disinfectant to a whole list of other things. That has changed on some level from a Strategic Point of view because now theyre Holding Events in the east room and hes getting out on the road this week, on tuesday going to arizona. So i think theyre watching the polling, joshua, to get to your question and seeing the results that arent exactly what they want to see. You also hear him talking about the economy and looking forward to the Third Quarter and the fourth quarter, saying that the Third Quarter is going to be a transition, but the fourth quarter, which happens to be the quarter where the november election falls, is going to be good. Thats what hes saying at this point. Its pretty hard to imagine that. Shawna, today the president tweeted that the Intelligence Community confirmed his statement that they did not bring up coronavirus until late january. We have reported that the president s daily brief began including warnings about coronavirus in at least early january. The president asserts his travel ban on china was right and we in the press got it wrong. Are we any closer now to knowing who knew what and when . I dont really think so, and i think, you know, from a political standpoint i feel a lot of people are going to vote on or one of the things theyre going to vote on is the response to this, but also how they were personally affected by covid19 when we get to the election. You know, history usually is pretty good and political historians are pretty good at somehow unweaving these things and trying to give us a clear idea of what happened. But for now i think we look at the reporting, we look at what the president says and in some ways youre going to have to make a decision about what seems most believable. But i do think in the town hall tonight, the president said that there will be some type of statement or something coming this week from the intelligence agencies trying to even more publicly clean up what seems to be a lot of inconsistencies so well also i think have to see more about that. Jonathan, i could use kind of a signal versus noise reading from you on the president s tweet. Setting the one we just read aside, yesterday the president wrote he is glad that north Koreas Kim Jongun is back and well. Kim had been rumored to be ill or dead and the north korean government released what it claims is recent video of him. We have no way of authenticating that. The president also agreed with a tweet claiming that he has done more for black americans than all other president s combined. And in his response he added, quote, honest abe wasnt bad, unquote. How much of this is signal and how much of this is noise . I mean, we have a pandemic to stop and i dont feel like being distracted by stupidity right now. How much of this other stuff should we be thinking about . Does that even matter in the context of all of this . Not to a Single Person who is on a vapingrelateentilator and Single Person trying to get personal protective equipment, not to a Single Person trying to get a test, not to anybody who has lost a family member. Its all noise and not to speak for African Americans, joshua, but i would argue that the polling and past elections suggest that the president is not the most popular president with African Americans in American History or really even close. Jeff, in our last few seconds, is there anything out of the white house in the week to come with regards to coronavirus that we should be keeping an eye out for . Well, i mentioned his trip to arizona. I think you might see the president doing more travel as well and see what the messaging from that is, what are they trying to highlight and what does that mean about the numbers that theyre seeing. Jeff mason of reuters, Shawna Thomas from quibby and Jonathan Allen of msnbc. Com, thanks very much for making time for us. Coming up, tens of millions of americans lost their jobs in the coronavirus outbreak. A california congressman joins us with his proposal to help us get through it next. Ext. Its the next one. You always drive this slow . 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This morning an oped from joe biden and Elizabeth Warren called for moreover site of the cares act funds. That oped also criticized the president for his approach to oversight. Do you agree with their assessment . And if so, what kind of oversight would you be pushing for . Absolutely. I mean, when we saw the ppp program, most of the businesses who got the loans were businesses that knew the bankers. They were often businesses that had over 200 employees, when we know in this country that its actually the Small Businesses, businesses under 20 employees, that are creating most of the jobs. And many minority communities were excluded from those loans. So we need to make sure that those loans are actually going to the businesses that are creating the jobs and need the help. The original cares act represented 2. 2 trillion in relief. The interim bilal indicated nearly a half billion more. Whats the next step . I think we have to focus on three things. First, we should be giving every american a 2,000 check if theyre under 250,000 of Household Income at least for a few months until this crisis lasts. I mean, one 1200 check just doesnt pay the rent bill. Its not enough to put groceries on the table. And if the government is telling people they cant work, which is the responsible thing in many communities, then we have an obligation to help them meet their expenses. Second, we need to have a workers bill of rights that senator warren and i have proposed of people who are doing the essential work. They should be protected. They should have basic child care. Third, we need to have some assistance for testing, some massive assistance in getting the production capacity, which has been the real bottleneck. I want to come back to that workers bill of rights in just a second. But with regards to the money, we should be clear that this money is being spent against the nations incredibly deep debt. We are spending dollars that we do not have. How much longer can we afford to do this, even though we need it . How much longer can we afford it . Well, i think its important that we realize that Interest Rates are at the lowest theyve been in a long time. Most of the nations debt is being bought up by the fed, so its not like this debt is going to overseas holders. And if we get the money in the pockets of people and they spend it, there is a better chance that were going to have less unemployment and actually may have more Revenue Growth so that we dont have further deficit caused by economic slow down. So most economists that ive studied and others have said this is the time that we should have this spending and that the problem in 2008 was we didnt have enough spending to deal with the economic downturn. Lets get back to that workers bill of rights. You and senator Elizabeth Warren have proposed this. Give me an example of the one most important item in that bill of rights that you believe could win bipartisan support. Theres been a fair amount of bipartisanship in the response to coronavirus thus far. Are there any parts of this bill that you think that both sides of the aisle could easily get behind . They basically protecting the workers doing the essential work. Like many people, i order amazon packages. Im very glad that we get amazon deliveries at my place. While there are workers who are doing that who are either in the warehouse or driving the trucks and some of them are saying that they dont have masks. They dont have social distancing. I think we can all agree, if were benefiting from these workers, that they should at the very least have safety. That she shouldnt be putting themselves or their families at risk. The cares act gave a windfall maybe to some of your constituents. The headquarters of apple, intel, the 49ers stadium, the tesla factory. Should we expect more such tax cuts in future bills . Was that a concession to get the bill passed . That should not have been in there. I was opposed to that. Obviously its very hard to vote against the package when the bill also includes increased Unemployment Insurance and some support for Small Business. But these bills were not perfect and too much of the money also went to large industries, not enough went to Small Businesses and the working class. And we need to do more. But i think people have to remember that Speaker Pelosi is up against Mitch Mcconnell and donald crum and shes doing the very best she can under those circumstances. I do want to be clear, though, congressman. I dont want to give the implication that your district is all rich people. Theres a lot of mixed income in Silicon Valley. Cupertino is pretty flush. But depending where you look in santa clara, in some parts if you go just north of say fremont and milpitas, you have a lot of mixed income, some low income, East Palo Alto looks very different from palo alto. How is your district doing right now . I really appreciate your making that point

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