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It was all so overwhelmingly horrible. Shes missing, where is she at . Police worked the clues. Her car abandoned. I was scared to death. A mysterious caller captured on camera. Why would this person call from a pay phone in the middle of the night . Then came the secret. She was married. Rumors about her being pregnant. She truly believed she was his wife. Anger, betrayal, revenge. A bomb exploded. World war iii. This kidnapping, potential murder . This is heathers life were talking about. Terrifying. When you see your parents hurting, you wish that you can take all their pain away. Its impossible. Hello, welcome to dateline. Heather alvis was charging headlong into her future. An independent, young woman eager to make her mark on the world. Then one night she disappeared. Investigators quickly found a love triangle and found they had their motive. But there was a big question the alvis family needed answered where was haeter . Heres Andrea Canning with the landing. Reporter myrtle beach, south carolina. Vacation heaven. 60 miles of instagram worthy sand and surf and thrills at every turn. But leave the tourists behind and go inland a mere 20 minutes to a bend in the river. Its tranquil, the trees are draped in spanish moss. There the a boat landing here with a fancy name, peach tree landing. Its a quiet spot that you can go think. You dont get a lost that in a small town. So when you find a spot, i mean you go all the time. What happened here to 20yearold Heather Alvis in 2013 became an enduring mystery. I know there is no way heather would not come home if she could come home. No way. You dont realize how much somebodys face means to you until you cant see it anymore. A family anguished, clinging to hope, searching for answers, a journey that would consume them for years. One of my best friends came to the house. He looked at me and he said, he said, i hope she didnt suffer. I cant get that thought from my head. Heather was born in 1993. The middle kid, sandwiched between elder brother chris and younger sister morgan. As morgan vividly remembered, heather would never let a label define her. She wasnt really a girly girl or a tomboy, she was somewhere in between. She would drive four wheelers and play volleyball and shoot paintball guns. And then shed turn around and put on a dress and go you know look beautiful for photos. Her parents debbie and terry say heather was driven by a passion to create. She drew all the time, decorating the family house with her doodles. Everywhere you went in the house, there was some kind of writing or some kind of drawing or some kind of doodle. Her brain is working constantly . Just a reminder, a small desk, it has a computer at it. It has all these sticky notes all over the top part of the desk. The one that sits right in front of my face in her handwriting, heather is amazing with a little heart. And heather was amazing when it came to cosmetology, the art of makeup. In a way that only siblings can. She sparked morgans interest in it, too. She said cosmetology was hers. I was not allowed to have it, and i did it any way. Thats kind of what sisters do. Dont tell me no because im going to do it any way. After graduation from high school in 2011, heather began working at a local pub, the tilted kilt. She became a hostess. Bleeiana, known as bree, worked with her there. Shed walk them back to the table. She would already have them laughing, having a conversation, same thing when they were leaving. Bree shared almost everything, even her apartment. When she confided she didnt always see eyetoeye with her parents, that was hardly unusual for a young woman determined to make her own way. They love each other dearly, its just i think they knocked heads, because heather wanted to explore. As for boyfriends, bree watch heather go through ups and downs. Just recently, she emerged from a difficult relationship with an older man. I know for a fact she had feelings for him. You dont fall out of love as much as that as sometimes we wish we could. On december 17th, 2013, everything was falling into place for heather. She got a new job with a makeup artist, had a date with a new guy. Even learned how to drive a stick shift in her dates truck. There she was in a picture she sent to her dad. She was proud of herself. It was a good day for her. You two must have been so proud of her that day. I think the picture, it was like i did it without you. But you couldnt help but be proud of it. And then, two days later, a knock at debbie and terrys door. A Police Officer with an odd question. Were they mising a car . That was his exact words, are you mising a car . I looked in the driveway, nope, theyre all there, not thinking about that he found a car somewhere. Was heathers car registered in her name . It was still in our name. Thats why he was at your doorstep. Terry came up behind me and asked what was going on. He explained he found heathers car at the landing. What was going on if heathers car was at the landing, then where was she . The search for heather turns up a lead that gives her family hope. Coming up the hospital said they had a heathered a hand been released. But fear creeps in. I felt something was wrong. He said look in the trunk. I was scared to death to open that trunk. When dateline continues. N that trunk when dateline continues here . Nah. Introducing the all new chevy trailblazer. Here . Nope. Here. When the middle of nowhere, is somewhere. The all new chevy trailblazer. Making lifes journey, just better. Heres to the duers. To all the people who realize they can du more with less asthma thanks to dupixent, the addon treatment for specific types of moderatetosevere asthma. Dupixent isnt for sudden breathing problems. It can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. 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He took us there explaining what the officer showed him that night. He had shined the spotlight on the back of the car. Checked the tag. It was his daughters dodge intrepid. Right away terry could see something was off. Instead of being this way the car was turned this way, basically taking up two, possibly three parking spaces. He stopped and he put on gloves. He handed me a pair and said just to be on the safe side. Terry elvis couldnt understand it. The last time he heard from heather is when she sent that photo from her date. She was fine. Now, she was nowhere to be found and he was searching her abandoned car. On the center console, her drivers license was there. Thats weird. And a couple other business cards and identification cards. But there were no keys. Thats when the officer said something that made his heart skip a beat. He said, lets take a look in the trunk and i looked back and i turned the key. He said, let me open it. I said, let me lift it. He held his breath as the lid to his daughters trunk popped opened. Were you worried about i was scared to death to open that trunk. We both looked in, it was fine, there was nothing there. There was plenty of clutter, no sign of foul play. By that point, bree, who had been out of town for several days had gotten word her best friend heather was missing. I called her dad who was with police at the time at peachtree and he had asked, when the last time i had talked to heather was. Bree told the two men heather had called from their apartment a day earlier around 1 30 a. M. Tuesday, fresh from her date. She said, i had an amazing day. Im supposed so see him tomorrow when he gets off work. Bree said heather didnt want to chat about the new guy. She was upset about a call she had gotten from that older man she once dated. His name was sidney. Weeks earlier, he dumped heather. Her exact words, sidney called me. I was like, what, she was like, yeah. I said, what did he say . She said he wanted to see me. Bree told her friend not to do anything rash. She was like, you know what . Youre right. I need some sleep, im exhausted and i love you. We always say i love you when we hang up and hung up. And that was it, bree said, the last time she spoke with heather. It was news to terry. Hed never heard of a sidney before. Then the officer had an idea. The officer starts calling hospitals to check and see if she had been admitted somewhere. When he called one of the local hospitals, they said a Heather Elvis had come in on her own and had been released. He thought heather must be okay. Eventually the officer told terry to take heathers car and head home. Terrys relief was short lived when he told his wife about heather checking into a hospital. Debbie didnt believe it. She knows its expensive to go to the emergency room. She wouldnt want that kind of expense. So she would have called me and said, hey, this is whats wrong. What do i do . So the couple did what they could, calling family and friends, no one had heard from heather. Eventually, though, one relative cleared up that hospital mystery. We found out the heather that was in the hospital is my cousins daughter named the same thing. We didnt have the middle name, only first and last. What are the odds that its another at the same time. Heather elvis at the same time going to the hospital . It was puzzling. So where was their heather . Confusion was turning to fear. It felt like something was wrong. Heathers sister morgan arrived home from a basketball game. Had they told you at this point who was going on . I kind of picked up what was going on through conversation. That heather was nowhere to be found. Thats when it donned on them, they could retrace heathers steps by way of their cell phone. She was still on their family plan. Edge ended up going online and our cell phone provider, because you can look at the call records and they pull up the information and they emailed it to us. They could see the most recent calls their daughter made and received. After her call to bree. Heather dialed another number, several times. These are the Early Morning calls . And then im like, whos number is this . The worried parents suddenly found themselves playing detective in the very real case of their missing daughter. We googled the numbers trying to figure out what they went to. And they got a hit. The numbers heather dialed belonged to a man named sidney moore. They figured that had to be the exboyfriend bree had mentioned earlier. Terry is like, im going to call, im just going call him i said terry you cant call somebody in the middle of the night. He did any way, on the other end a man answered. The way terry recalls it, the man was not happy. I said, you dont know me, but im heathers father, Heather Elvis. And before he could get the next word out, im getting cussed out, left and right. Like cussing about what . Nothing, just cussing. Dont [ bleep ] call me. I dont know what you are talking about. I dont know this person. Okay. Thats a very odd reaction. Thats what i thought. Its just cursing after cursing after cursing. The man who dated their daughter was hotly denying hed ever heard of her. As the hours ticked by, they grew anxious. They knew calling family and friends wasnt enough. They needed a new plan to find their missing daughter. Coming up, two new oncamera clues. Someone at a pay phone. It appears this is someone she knows. Right, exactly. Then someone in a peckup. You can see a dark pickup truck go by. Soon after that her phone goes dead and we never hear from her again. When dateline continues. If you have medicare, listen up. The medicare enrollment deadline is only days away. With so many changes, do you know if your plan is still the right fit . 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And then, all of myrtle beach was searching for her. Heather elvis a missing person. Volunteers keep looking for the 20yearold. Heathers desperate parents called on everyone to scour the area. They printed out flyers. There wasnt a store front in myrtle beach that didnt have one or two flyers and then they were in georgia, in tennessee and florida. They posted pleas online for information. They turned to the news media, local. Is heather alive . My heart tells me that my daughter is alive. And national, including datelines missing in america digital series. They let our cameras into those agonizing, early days. Its just that hole that we all in the family just feel. And bearing sight and witness to their anguish was another daughter, morgan. I can probably count on one hand how many times ive seen my dad cry. And to see Something Like that makes your whole world fall apart. Police quickly turn their attention to heathers new guy, the man who had been with her on a date that night. His alibi, that he dropped heather at her apartment, checked out. The date in question, he cooperated with law enforcement, he is not listed as a person of interest or a suspect. But what about the old boyfriend, sidney . Police wanted to know more about his relationship with heather. Her best friend, bri, was just the person to tell them about it. He flirted with her just as much if not more than she flirted with him. It was much wall. Bri said the two had met that spring at the tilted kilt. The pub where heather had been a hostess. Sidney took care of maintenance there. You can tell he did care about heather when he would come in see her, the little things, the texts or the calls to check up on her at work. But there was a big problem. Sidney was married. Although heather didnt seem to mind. Heather had it in her head that he was going to leave his wife. She swore up and down that he was going to leave. Bri knew that would never happen. Sure enough, in october 2013, sidneys wife got wind of the affair. He broke things off with heather. It hurt her. It hurt me to see her go through that. Sidney told police he was home with night heather disappeared, but he did say that heather called him. Police went back to her phone records where they saw that call to sidney. They also found a mysterious number that had never called heather before. Investigators traced it to a pay phone at a gas station. A Security Camera was pointed right at it. This random pay phone number called heathers phone, called it once. It lasted about four minutes. And then she actually tried to call that number back multiple times. Marissa from nbc affiliate wmbftv covered the case. It appears this is won she knows shes having a conversation that long and shes repeatedly calling back. Right, exactly. Was it sidney . They pulled the security footage from the gas station. You can see somebody walk up to the pay phone and place that call to Heather Elvis. Police wondered if that somebody was sidney. They asked him to come in for another round of questioning. If he had been home, what was he doing at a pay phone calling heather . He finally fessed up. Sidney moore told them in an interview with police, i made that phone call to heather. Investigators began to build a time line from heathers phone at 1 35 a. M. , sidney called heather from the pay phone. Nine minutes later at 1 44, heather calls her friend bri between 2 29 and 3 05, heather called the pay phone nine times, but no one answered. Her phone did connect to sidneys cell phone at 3 17 a. M. For four minutes. Then from 3 25 to 3 37, the phone was in her car on the way to Peachtree Landing. Where was sidney at that time . Police didnt know. That was until a woman who lived near the landing, said she had a Security Camera. Perhaps she thought it captured something around the disappearance. Around 3 30 in the morning you can see a dark pickup truck go by her home. Police believed it was sidneys truck. It was a huge break. Police thought they could now place heather in her car and sidney moore in his truck heading for Peachtree Landing at the same time. And soon after that her phone goes dead and nobody ever heard from her again. It was 3 42 in the morning. Police now had a theory, somehow, heather had become a problem for sidney so he lured heather to the landing and killed her. And there was more. Investigators believe sidney and heather werent alone. Someone else was at the landing. Coming up, who was that mystery person at the landing . And why would anyone want to harm heather . The fire, the jealousy explodes into utter rage. When dateline continues. Ons if you have plaque psoriasis and are experiencing a flare, but lately, have been putting off seeing your dermatologist, its time to get the care you need. Because psoriasis isnt just a skin condition. 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It is expected to have unprecedented accuracy. Now back to dateline. Ck to d. Welcome back to dateline. Im natalie morales. What happened to Heather Elvis . The 20yearold vanished in the middle of the night. Investigators believe that heathers exboyfriend sidney moore had arranged to meet her at a secluded spot. They thought he may have had help. As police continued to methodically piece together the puzzle, heathers family was grappling with their new reality. Once again, heres andrea caning with the landing. Terry elvis isnt exactly sure when he realized his daughter probably wasnt coming home. Maybe it was the afternoon, long after heather disappeared when he was standing at his mailbox talking to his best friend. One of my best friends came to the house. He looked at me and he said, he says, i hope she didnt suffer. And i cant get that thought from my head. The not knowing made it worse. And then, stunning news. New developments tonight in the Heather Elvis case. Two months after heathers disappearance, sidney moore heathers exboyfriend, was arrested. He didnt go to jail alone. He was joined by his wife, tammy moore. Both were charged with heathers kidnapping and murder. Did this surprise people, that i have three children, now theyre involved in this crazy love triangle kidnapping potential murder . Its something that you see on a dateline episode. Its not a story line that match itself up with two people who have three children and are supposed to be happily married. In an interview with dateline, tammy told us her marriage was a happy one. We were a normal family. It was about our children. Our kids came before anything. Tammy home schooled the kids, sidney worked at local restaurants. They enjoyed cookouts and family vacations. I always loved sidney but i hated the things he had done. Tammy told us she found the affair upsetting, quickly got over it. She said within a day or two, she had a nice conversation with heather on the phone. I said im not mad at you. She said, well, and then she told me the stuff that they had done and what had happened. Prosecutors didnt buy tammys story for one minute. But they had to drop the murder charges. After all, they didnt have a body. Howd that feel when they told you about that . Like there is some tiny bit of justice in the world, for a brief moment and then all of a sudden its like it never happened. But it wasnt over yet. It was only just beginning. Both sidney and tammy still faced kidnapping charges. Sidney was up first. His trial began in the summer of 2016. He pleaded fought guilty. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen of the jury. The prosecutions case was purely circumstantial. There was no physical evidence. But they argue those Surveillance Videos and phone recording proved the last person to talk and meet up with heather was sidney. However, the jury deadlocked. A mistrial has been declared in this case against sidney moore. The prosecution didnt give up. When it came time for tammys trial, they came one a bold new strategy. They argued that tammy had not only been sidneys partner in crime, she had been the mastermi mastermind, calling all the shots. They believe that she was the ultimate brains behind this whole plan. Prosecutors said it all boiled down to in this, far from being the understanding wife who had accepted sidneys affair, she had been consumed by it. A fire of jealousy was lit in the defendant. She was livid. She was angry. An anger that became more sinister when tammy heard a rumor around town, heather might be pregnant with sidneys baby. When this gets out and becomes common knowledge, the fire, the jealousy that is in tammy moore explodes into utter rage. Prosecutors said that rage wouldnt be satisfied until heather was out of the way. They said it was obvious how much the affair had upset tammy by the way she had treated sidney afterwards. She said she beat the hell out of him. This witness said sidney had a tattoo of tammys name across his abdomen. His understanding is that tammy made sidney get it. The states theory is that was terrys way of saying youre mine and you will never be anyone elses. The prosecutor said tammy had even chained sidney to the bed with handcuffs. Im not speaking figuratively. Literally chained him to the bed at night. As angry as she was for him cheating, prosecutors say she was furious with heather. She sent her several texts. The prosecution said some were threats. Heather was really afraid of tammy. She was, her friends played a prank on her one time at work, where they pretended to be tammy calling heathers phone, she was absolutely terrified. And the prosecution said if there was any doubt about the way tammy felt, just look at this nasty Facebook Post tammy had written after heather disappeared. Calling her a psycho whore. She could have said, oh, im so sorry this girls missing and i hope you found her and left it alone. No, she goes on the attack. Tammy is the one with the motive. She is the hunter. And it was a hunt. The prosecution said the investigator told the jury he used cell phone data to track the moores movements. In the days before the disappearance, they showed up near heathers workplace. Some of the bars she liked, even her home. The prosecution suggested the couple was stalking her. Then in the early hours of december 18th, 2013, with heathers roommate out of town, the prosecutor said the couple struck. It began here. The prosecutor showed the jury Surveillance Video of sidney walking into a walmart and purchasing a pregnancy test for heather. As soon as they leave for walmart, they go and call her. Why . Because they want to meet her. The prosecutions theory is sidney called to take the test and meet up later at the landing. They said what she didnt know was that tammy would be there, too. There is no doubt sidney is the bait in this hunt. Hes the bait. Prosecutors admitted they couldnt say what happened to heather at the landing but they asked the jury to use their common sense. An investigator showed the jury a photo of several items found on the moores property. There is a spent shotgun shell casing. There is a back of concrete mix here and off to the side up here is some type of a bottle of a cleaning solution. The prosecution suggested it was nothing less than a kidnapping kit. What the moores might have needed to kill heather and dispose of her body. How hard was it for you being in that courtroom every day, hearing these details, having to see tammy . Most days when i woke up i didnt want to come to the trial. But i went because when you see your parents hurting, you wish that you could take all the their pain away. And Something Like this, its an Impossible Task for me to do. But you can do small things. You can sit with them and you can hold their hands when they need it. After seven days of testimony, the prosecution rested. And the defense announced tammy was going to testify in her defense. As hard as it might be to listen to her, that was something morgan didnt want to miss. Coming up did you kidnap Heather Elvis . No, i did not. Tammy moore on the stand and on the offensive. Tammy was just indignant. Theres answers to this mystery and they refuse to solve it. When dateline continues. announcer carvanas had a lot of firsts. 100 online car buying. Car vending machines. And now, putting you in control of your financing. At carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your down payment and monthly payment. And these arent madeup numbers. Its what youll really pay, right down to the penny. Whether youre shopping or just looking. It only takes a few seconds, and it wont affect your credit score. Finally a totally different way to finance your ride. Only from carvana. The new way to buy a car. 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Find your fitscore and get your answers today to get the most out of medicare. Call now. Welcome back. Sidney moores trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis ended with the jury deadlocked. Now his wife tammy was in court charged with the same crime. Prosecutors painted tammy as a vindictive spouse who masterminded heathers disappearance after learning the 20yearold was having an affair with her husband. Tammy was about to take the stand and present a very different story. Here again is andrea caning with the landing. Tammy moore said her kids should have been tackling homework and hanging with friends. Instead, they were sitting in a courtroom watching her be accused of a terrible crime. I just want to be home with my children and take care of them. Tammy believed she was victimized by a relentless prosecutor. She is not getting justice putting an innocent person in jail. She never will. I think from the beginning tammy was just indignant that she was even charged with this. They cannot prove to you that anybody named moore ever went to the boat landing at the end of peachtree road. The defense told the jury to look at the evidence or lack of it, starting with heathers car. The vehicle did not indicate that anything occurred inside of the vehicle. The Police Officer who processed heathers car testified he couldnt find any evidence of a struggle. Investigators found no trace of a crime inside the moores house or truck either. Speaking or their truck, the defense said they couldnt tell whether it was actually sidney and tammys truck headed towards Peachtree Landing. You have low image, low resolution Surveillance Video. Our position is that you absolutely cannot draw any conclusion beyond the fact that may be a certain make and modem. This video did not pass the smell test to you . This video didnt even give off an odor. Another piece of flawed evidence, according to the defense . Was the cell phone data that seemed to suggest tammy and sidney had been stalking heather. Id say you could compare their phone activity to anybody elses who lived and worked in the area. Those are where the nightclubs are, restaurants there. It would appear i were stalking her as well, if you look at where my phone went. The defense said what the jury really needed to understand was a simple fact. No piece of evidence put tammy at the landing. If anything, her alibi placed her miles away. Did tammys children stay in the house there with you or your mother . Yes. Tammys sister ashley told the court she was babysitting tammys kids on the night of december 17th, 2013. She said tammy and sidney went out together in the hours leading up to heathers disappearance. Ashley remembered when her sister came home. She texted me that night saying she was home. Do you know what time it was . It was beginning of 3 00 in the morning, i believe it was 3 10. For the defense, it was a time stamp, proving tammy was home well before heather went missing. That wasnt all he said, both sidney and tammys phones were on an pinging from their house, not from the landing when heather was there. It was all so hard for morgan to listen to. Some days she wished she hadnt come to court. But that all changed during a crucial moment in the trial. When i found out that tammy was going to testify, i really wanted to be there. Because i do look like heather. Hmm. And she ran into me in the hallway and it was the first time she had ever really made eye contact and been up close and personal with me and i could hear her audibly gasp. When tammy took the stand, she seemed confident, ready to tell her story. She told the jury she wasnt a ruthless kidnapper. She was a mom. My youngest is on the far left over there. And she was a wife who found out her husband was cheating on her. Initially tammy said she texted the other womans phone number to find out who she was. The messages were never directed towards Heather Elvis. They were directed toward the mystery person. I wanted to know who it was. At the end of the day, she says the only reason she was angry with sidney is he wasnt forthcoming about his affair. In their marriage, they had an arrangement. I think its a good idea to have an open marriage for a little bit and see if were meant to be together. The only thing is i want you to be honest with me. Sidney wasnt honest with me. Thats why i got angry with sid with sidney. She said when heather went missing, they were working on their marriage. Even hoping to get pregnant. That test sidney bought at walmart was for her, not heather. Also, she denied she made sidney get a tattoo as punishment. She said he had gotten it long before he met heather and a answer about the handcuffs, too. Did you ever handcuff him to the bed and leave with the keys . No, i did not. Sidney is a strong man. He can get out of anything. Tammy had her own explanation for that socalled kidnapping kit. Sidney needed the concrete for work. The cleaning fluid was for their dirty camper, and the shotgun shell, probably just a spent casing from a turkey hunt. Did you kidnap Heather Elvis . No, i did not. Do you know who kidnapped her . I do not. Are you glad that you are able to tell people what happened, what you did do and didnt do . I want people to know the truth and i too want heather found. Tammy has said that she wants to find heather. She actually liked heather, she didnt do this. And yet she goes on facebook calling her a psycho whore. Which is it . You know, i cant really you know explain everything that tammy said or felt. I think it was a huge mistake to call her names and do that sort of thing. He said if tammy had kidnapped heather, why would she be writing nasty Facebook Posts about her . The elvis family listened to testimony about heather, with disgust. She deserves to be found. It was so offensive to hear her name come out of that womans mouth. You sat there so quietly in that courtroom. Did you just want to scream. It was infuriating some of the things that she said. The trial was far from over. It was the prosecutors turn to question tammy and the prosecutor wasnt going to pull any punches. Coming up, fireworks in the courtroom. This is a story about jealousy and deceit. They dont have one fiber, one tear drop, one piece of a shoe lace. High stakes in the jury room. The jury has reached a verdict. When dateline continues. Rd. When dateline continues iatd brand, helps keep babys skin dry and healthy. So every touch is as comforting as the first. Pampers. The 1 pediatrician recommended brand. Intronew advil dual action. The world of pain relief advil targets pain at the source. Acetaminophen blocks pain signals. New advil dual action with acetaminophen. Im a talking dog. The other issue. Oh. Im scratching like crazy. 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In fact, she seemed to have an alibi placing her miles away from the alleged crime scene. Tammy told her story on the stand. Now it was the prosecutions turn to question her and they came armed with more of tammys text message, sparks were about to fly. Heres Andrea Canning with the conclusion of the landing. When tammy moore took the stand in her own defense, she sailed through her direct testimony. But then came the prosecutors turn. Do you know who i am . I do. Who i am . Nancy. But she was just getting started. The prosecutors mission, to show the jury that tammy was hardly the tolerant wife she claimed to be. When it came to Heather Elvis, the prosecutor argued tammy was angry, vengeful and tammys text to heather proved it. You texted her, you can tell me who you are right now or i will find out another way, that way wont have a great turnout for you. Yes. And at the time how old were you . I think i was 41 or 42. Im not sure. Okay. So do you know now when you sent her that text she was a 20yearold girl . I know now, i didnt know then. The prosecutor suggested tammy behaved like a stalker. You said on 11 11, i think the bitch is isnt that what you said . If its on there. Heres my question to you how many times had you gone up there and looked her to believe that she was then it leaves the impression . Never. Never . Never. What makes you think the bitch is high. I was being a jerk at the time i guess, nancy, thats all i can say. Have we ever met outside this courtroom . I dont think so. I didnt know we got on a first name basis. After ten days and more than 40 witnesses, each side wrapped up. This is a story about jealousy and deceit and this story has been around for a long, long time. The prosecution driving home its case that tammy had motive to kidnap Heather Elvis. They dont have one fiber, one tear drop, one piece of salt, one piece of shoe lace at the boat landing. The defense arguing there was not a scrap of evidence to prove it. What would the jury do . Ladies and gentlemen, i understand that the jury has reached a verdict. It took jurors less than four hours to reach a verdict. We the jury find the defendant tammy moore, guilty of kidnapping. Guilty of kidnapping and conspiracy to kidnap. Two counts. In court, tammy took it stoically. Later, she was emotional. I told my kids if a verdict came in, i was going away. Because i knew thats what it would be. The elvis family got the verdict they wanted, but it wasnt going to bring heather back. It didnt change anything. People say it didnt change the big pick. It didnt change the little picture. You expect it to feel good to be a victory, it doesnt feel like that at all. Heathers sister looked across to the moors. The only thing i saw is those children getting torn apart. Those children sitting behind their him mom. I have lived first hand a family getting torn apart. I wouldnt wish that on anybody toomey moore was sentenced to 30 years. She is appealing. Her husband sidney was jailed in 2017, convicted of obstruction of justice for lying to police during the investigation. The state wasnt done with sidney moore. In december 2019, prosecutors retried him on those kidnapping charges. This time he was convicted and, like tammy, received 30year term. As for debbie and terry, theyre in the same place they have been since the day their daughter went missing. Living with the hope that one day theyll get answers about what happened to heather. The young woman who had so many years ahead of her. What would you say to heather, if that little sliver of hope is still out there . Im going to bring you home, somehow, some way, im bringing you home. Were not giving up. Were never going to give up. It doesnt matter what it takes. Everything else takes a back seat. It really does. Life does not go on. People around you, life goes on. But youre still stuck. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im natalie morales. Thank you for watching. Im craig melvin. And im natalie morales. And this is dateline. He wasnt my biological child. But my heart you cant tell that to my heart. I loved that boy. Its not fair that he was taken from his children or from his family jessie fell for vince, a man in uniform. Holding the