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>> then divine intervention through a nun he called grandma. >> eric would say, "grandma, i think this all happening for a reason." >> maybe a nun could help him get into heaven, but could she help him get out of prison? what she helped him do was get a lawyer, and together they hunted for the truth. >> this is the one case that has kept me up at night for six years. >> he says i know you're innocent, i know the guys who committed this crime. >> will justice finally arrive? hello and welcome to "dateline." eric glisson was just 20 years old when he was convicted of a murder that sent shockwaves through his neighborhood. a crime he insisted he did not commit. to clear his name eric would have to find the real killers, following clues from the confines of his cell. it would take years for the truth to come out. but would it be enough to set him free? here's josh mankiewicz with "a bronx tale." >> sing sing correctional facility. the maximum security prison in new york. this is the big house. home to some of the worst of the wor worst. killers, rapists, drug dealers. >> good morning. >> thank you. >> it is not where you'd expect to find this gentle woman. >> in sing sing, they call me grandma. >> grandma is sister joanna chan, a marinol nun. >> i began working at sing sing more than 12 years ago. >> this is the battle about general. >> grandma volunteers at the prison, working with inmates in a theater program. she even teaches them chinese. through the years, grandma has helped dozens of men. but she says this inmate here on stage, a convicted killer, has changed her. >> he is just so brave. watching him all these years, i took such courage myself watching him. >> sister joanna remembers the first time she met this inmate. he was sitting alone eating. >> he said, my family send me 30 pounds of food. so i said, your family must love you very much. and he said, yes, because they know i'm innocent. and that's how the whole story began. >> a story that began with the unlikely friendship between a nun and a convicted killer would grow into a quest that would shake the faith of even those sworn to uphold the law. >> i thought if he was innocent god has to see him through. >> so who is this convicted murderer? he is inmate 97a7088. eric glisson. we first met him in the spring of 2012 when a "dateline" producer working on a different story in sing sing met eric in his cell. >> you're going to film me? >> yeah. >> he had been locked up for 18 years. >> you want to see what it's like to live in here? i can touch the walls with my hands. >> eric told us he didn't belong here. >> my story is that i'm unjustly convicted for a crime i didn't commit and from february 3rd of 1995 until the present date i've been sitting in here lingering every day wondering whether this mistake will be corrected. >> we've heard that before. many times. but what if he was telling the truth? so, over time -- >> how are you doing, man? >> how did you get up here? >> we began visiting eric. >> what's up? >> you're looking good. >> and listening to his story. >> when i got arrested i was always under the impression that people who are guilty actually go to jail. i didn't believe that i would be convicted of a crime that i didn't do. >> when police put the cuffs on him in 1995 eric was 20 years old. a brand new father of a 1-week-old baby girl. when we spoke, their only time together had been spent in sing sing's visiting room. >> i have a family who i love and who loves me. my daughter, i need to get home to her and be a father. >> eric often shared his story with sister joanna. over time, she felt compelled to do something, anything for him. so she called the only lawyer she knew. >> the first person i could think of was mr. peter cross. >> i trust her judgment. to me it was worth investing my time in. >> attorney peter cross agreed to at least see if there was some truth to eric's story. but there was still one problem. this is not the kind of law you normally practice. >> no, not at all. i'm a corporate lawyer. i do corporate litigation. i don't do criminal work. >> sharmane chester was peter's assistant. this was also new territory for her. >> out of the blue one day, i get this call. you have a collect call from an inmate at sing sing correctional facility. i'm like, okay. >> soon she found herself spending hours on the phone with the inmate. >> at first it was all, you know, business, case, case. by the time you talk to somebody every day, personal things start to slip in. >> friendship. >> friendship. >> in the meantime, her boss was checking out eric's claims of innocence. did you believe it at the beginning? >> i'm not going to say -- i didn't disbelieve him. it's just i'm practicing law for a listening time. okay? >> and people lie. >> they certainly color the truth. this is a man who was convicted of murdering someone. so, of course, i approached it with some skepticism. >> but once cross learned the facts, he agreed to take eric's case at no charge. representing a man who didn't seem hardened by prison but almost frightened. >> it's terrifying because you can just be walking in the yard and then you could be shanked. that's the life of prison. >> a life he'd lived for nearly two decades. a story he was telling us if true was as explosive as it was tragic. >> it turns out that the police and the district attorney had all the evidence at their disposal to solve this crime from the beginning. >> not only was eric insisting he was wrongfully convicted, he said others were, too. all of them locked away for life for the same crime. >> five other people, five other people was also convicted of this crime. >> six people. could all of them actually be innocent? >> time now is approximately 7:15. >> to find out, we'll go back almost two decades and take a hard look at how it all began. >> coming up -- what one witness really saw from her window the day of the murder. >> how the detectives could have decided to run with this still shocks me today. >> when "dateline" continues. ats ♪ since pioneering the suv in 1935, the chevy suburban has carried many things. nothing more important than family. introducing the most versatile and advanced chevy suburban and tahoe ever. secret stops sweat 3x more introducing the most versatile ♪yo yo yo yo yo yoed start your day with secret. than ordinary antiperspirants. with secret you're unstoppable. no sweat. try it and love it or get your money back. secret. ♪ all strength, no sweat here's to the duers. to all the people who realize they can du more with less asthma thanks to dupixent, the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn't for sudden breathing problems. it can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. it's not a steroid but can help reduce or eliminate oral steroids. dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions including anaphylaxis. get help right away if you have rash, shortness of breath, chest pain, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection and don't change or stop your asthma treatments, including steroids, without talking to your doctor. are you ready to du more with less asthma? 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>> i knew two of them. >> from the neighborhood? >> from the neighborhood. >> these are good friends of yours? >> acquaintances. >> just guys you saw around? >> yes. >> february 4th, 1995. >> one of those guys was 19-year-old michael cosme, the first suspect arrested. zbluf the rig zbluf. >> you have the right to remain silent. >> he was the only one videotaped by police. >> i have one thing to say, though. >> i'll read you those rights and you can -- >> i only have one thing to say, though. i didn't do it. i wasn't there. i was in my house asleep. >> detectives didn't believe him and cosme was arrested for both murders. days later so was eric glisson. >> originally you were charged with both murders, with denise raymond's murder and the cab driver murder. >> yes. >> but by the time eric went to trial prosecutors dropped charges against him in the denise raymond case, citing lack of evidence. so what evidence was there against him in the cab driver case? it was really pretty simple. there was a witness against him. her name? miriam tavares. tavares told the cops she looked out her window and saw it all, eric and the others, smack in the middle of the cab driver robbery that ended in murder. >> is it possible miriam saw you commit a crime? >> no. >> not any crime? >> i wasn't there. >> bad blood between you and miriam? >> yes, bad blood. >> eric says he had a brief sexual relationship with miriam that did not end well. >> you have a fling with a girl and then you just cut it off abruptly. she may feel slighted. >> slighted enough to make you a murder suspect? >> i guess so. >> whatever her motivation, the question is how reliable was she as a witness? all these years later eric finally had someone to take another look at miriam's story. attorney peter cross. >> there's no doubt this woman was lying. i went out to the crime scene and she could not possibly have seen what she said occurred. >> so what could miriam tavares really see? here's the problem with miriam's story. from that police video, we know this is where the cab came to rest. we also know the shooting happened a couple of car lengths back, sort of where that red suv is. we know a man in that building called 911 when he heard the shots and he said he saw only one person running away from the scene. now, a couple of weeks later, miriam tavares comes forward. she lives in that building over there. now you're looking at me from outside the window miriam said she saw all of this happen. this has to be easily 100 yards away. and she says she saw six people from the neighborhood commit the crime. she says she heard what they said and she saw what they stole. and she said she saw all of it looking through this bathroom window. the only problem is, if you go back to where the shooting actually happened, it's pretty clear miriam tavares couldn't have seen anything at all. >> she said from the bathroom window she heard these conversations going on inside the car. i mean, it's just incredible testimony. >> but what disturbed cross even more, detective donnelly never looked at the crime scene from the perspective you just did. wouldn't that sort of be standard operating procedure to check out what witnesses say? >> you would think so. i think they got on the horse early on in this case and they rode that horse and they weren't going to change direction. >> we wanted to speak with miriam tavares. she died of a drug overdose in 2002. other than her testimony, there was no physical evidence, no forensics, no prints, nothing that tied eric or the others to the cab driver's murder. even so, detectives donnelly and aiello went with what they had and closed both murder cases. within three weeks, they arrested their suspects and the bronx district attorney tried them. in all, six people were convicted. we'll call them the bronx six. five men and a woman. all sent away facing 25 to life. one of them was eric glisson. what's it like to hear that verdict read? >> it's like a shot in the chest. it's like your heart just melts. just dissolves. you actually think that, you know, they read the wrong verdict. that this can't be true. >> the nypd was quite proud of detectives donnelly and aiello's work, so proud that five months after the arrests the department allowed the detectives to be featured in "new york" magazine about how they amazingly cracked the cases. >> how the detectives could have believed that and decided to run with this and send them to jail for the rest of their lives on the basis of this garbage still shocks me today. >> all these years later, attorney cross knew his opinion of the detective work in this case wasn't going to free eric glisson or anyone else. >> i think the only kind of evidence that's going to sway a court is if we can point to who the real killers are. >> that was quite a lot to hope for. but from behind bars, eric glisson was already on the trail. >> i got some documents and so i see this guy's name keeps coming up. >> coming up -- a surprise visitor and an answered prayer. >> he said, i'm sorry. i know you're innocent. i know the guys who committed this crime. >> when "dateline" continues. these are the people we're calling the bronx six, five men and a woman. all convicted and sent away for 25 years to life for committing murder. all insisted they were innocent. we met one of them, eric glisson, in sing sing, where from behind bars he'd been trying to get answers ever since he was locked up. >> i've been fighting these people for years. asking for documents which they deny me at every turn. >> they're not going to convict me for something that i didn't do and just expect me to accept it. i'm going to fight to the end. i'm a fighter. i die on my feet, not on my knees. >> as the years passed, eric took college courses offered by the prison. he learned about the law and fought his case. >> how did he get that evidence in his possession? >> the courts denied all his appeals. >> i don't -- i don't have any appeals left. nothing. >> it was a lonely fight and then in 2006 he met sister joanna chan in one of the prison's programs, the woman he calls grandma. >> there's particular dark time. he would say, grandma, it's really hard. >> i told her grandma, i just lost my last appeal. i don't know what i'm going to do. >> i always say let's keep the faith and let's go and pray and i said, we have many, many sisters praying with you. >> sister joanna offered more than just her prayers. that's when she brought in peter cross, who was now fighting for eric on the outside. >> so you have detective donnelly as the officer assigned. >> yes. >> with eric as his guide, cross got up to speed. and he found? troubling information about how detectives donnelly and aiello connected the two murders. it was through this witness. her name is kathy gomez. >> kathy, we're on the record. >> cross tracked her down and videotaped his interview with her. >> you know i'm here today because eric glisson -- >> gomez, who was 16 at the time of the murder, says she first came in contact with the detectives for only one reason. she was friends with miriam tavares, who spoke only spanish. >> so you served kind of as a translator? >> yes. >> but by the time she had walked out of the police station kathy gomez had become the key witness in the investigation of the fedex murder. gomez had signed a sworn statement claiming she overheard the same suspects talking about details of both crimes that only the killers or the cops would know. >> tell me if you recognize your signature on that document. >> yeah, that's my signature. >> here's the problem. it's a crime kathy now says she knew nothing about. >> i even told them i didn't see nothing like that. >> what's more, gomez says she could hardly read or write english. >> i couldn't read it. they just wanted me oh, you have to sign this. you don't have nothing to do with this. >> kathy gomez told me that entire statement was prepared by the police and she signed it without knowing even what was in it. >> even so, gomez did testify, now saying she only took the stand because she says detectives threatened to arrest her if she refused. >> they put me in handcuffs to take me -- because i refused to go, you know, to court. i was just freaked out you know, because who want to be in handcuffs or in jail or something like that. nobody. >> in fact, court transcripts show she even attempted suicide as the trial began. but because she didn't testify against eric her claims all these years later wouldn't help him. to have any chance at having another day in court eric knew he'd need powerful evidence. evidence of actual innocence. he started thinking, if he and the other five co-defendants had nothing to do with the two murders then who did? after more than a decade of trying finally some of eric's requests for documents in his case began trickling in. >> i came across one document which had my name as well as my other co-defendants and one name stood out, it was an individual i found out was part of a gang called sex, money, murder. >> eric was on to an important lead. sex, money, murder. even veteran cops knew those three words meant danger, a notorious gang from the soundview section of the bronx. >> 1997 october, sex, money, murder became my assignment. >> pete forselli was an nypd detective assigned to take down the gang. >> this was all sex, money, murder territory? >> yeah. we're in the heart of it. >> while forselli was investigating the gang an informant told him details of a crime the gang members had committed. >> there was a cab driver who had been killed in the vicinity of soundview. >> so forselli went to the 43rd precinct in the south bronx to see if there was any truth to the story. >> early 1998, walked in the precinct. went upstairs, walked into the detective squad room. >> you go in there and say what about this murder, what do you know about a murder? >> yeah, i wanted to know about a cab driver murder in soundview or the area around soundview. >> and the response? >> they had nothing that fit that description. >> but forselli's informant insisted the murder did happen. >> you didn't only make one trip to the 43rd precinct. >> made two. again, came out saying we have nothing that fits that description. >> is there any conceivable reason why the police department wouldn't tell you the truth? >> well, i thought about that. >> soreselli says the answer might be simple. as far as the nypd was concerned, this homicide was solved. closed. >> the detective may have looked only in the open homicide drawer and never bothered to even look to see if there was anything other than an unsolved homicide that fit that description. >> as far as you know, that's the end of it. >> right. like i said, i'd moved on. >> forselli soon retired from the nypd, not knowing six people had already been convicted. in the meantime eric was stuck in prison. it wasn't until 2012, 14 years later, that he hit paydirt and it came in the form of cell phone records. remember, the cab driver's cell phone had been stolen by whoever killed him. >> i found hundreds of calls after his death. >> the records showed the first call was made from the victim's phone minutes after the shooting. the numbers called traced back to relatives of two sex, money, murder gang members named jose rodriguez and gilbert vega. eric believed he finally had evidence showing who the real killers were. >> it took me 16, 17 years to get those through freedom of information. >> they were never provided to the defense? >> no. it turns out that the police and the district attorney had all the evidence at their disposal to solve this crime from the beginning. >> so he wrote a letter to the u.s. attorney proclaiming his innocence and detailing the information he'd found out about the sex, money, murder gang. it was a hail mary pass. in an amazing stroke of luck, eric's letter landed on this man's desk. his name, john o'malley, an investigator for the u.s. attorney in new york. days after reading eric's letter, o'malley made a personal trip to see eric in sing sing. >> immediately, john o'malley just stood up and he asked me. did you write this letter? i said, yes. he shook my hand and he said, "i'm sorry." i said, sorry for what? he says, you know, i know you're innocent. when he said that, i said, what are you talking about, sir? he said, listen. i know the guys who committed this crime. >> how did o'malley know? it turns out o'malley worked with detective forselli on that gang case ten years earlier and back then those two gang members, jose and gilbert actually confessed the cab driver shooting to o'malley. >> he said, when i read this letter, everything just came back to me from that day. i put it altogether. when these guys confessed to me. >> o'malley didn't want to appear on camera but told us he also checked with the nypd after getting those confessions back in 2002 and, like detective forselli before him, o'malley was told there was no record of the crime. after getting eric's letter in 2012, o'malley addressed the court in a sworn affidavit stating that eric glisson and the others were innocent of the cab driver's shooting. armed with that kind of statement, you'd think eric would be literally home free. you'd be wrong. coming up, eric glisson isn't giving up. >> this is my wall of hope. everyone here has been unjustly convicted and freed. >> when "dateline" continues. skip to cold relief fast with alka seltzer plus severe powerfast fizz. dissolves quickly. instantly ready to start working. ♪ oh, what a relief it is! so fast! special guest flo challenges the hand models to show off the ease of comparing rates with progressive's home quote explorer. international hand model jon-jon gets personal. your wayward pinky is grotesque. then a high stakes patty-cake battle royale ends in triumph. you have the upper hands! it's a race to the lowest rate, and so much more. only on "the upper hands." iget new charmin ultra strong., getting clean?more. it just cleans better, so your family can use less. hello clean bottom! enjoy the go with charmin. hello. i'm dara brown. here's what's happening. polish president andrzej duda has tested positive for covid-19. duda's spokesman says he feels well and that he is isolating. the polish government recently imposed new coronavirus restrictions amid a surge in cases. and tokyo inaugurated its new aquatics center on saturday ahead of next year's summer olympics. the facility was originally supposed to open in march. the games' organizers have yet to decide whether fans will be allowed to attend. now back to "dateline." welcome back to "dateline." i'm craig melvin. eric glisson insisted he was innocent of the murder that put him in prison. after years behind bars he finally found crucial new evidence. that and a powerful ally in the justice system gave eric something he had not had in a long time. hope. back to josh mankiewicz with "a bronx tale." >> for the first time in his 18-year struggle to prove that he didn't pull a trigger eric glisson finally had his hands on a smoking gun. an affidavit from a federal investigator saying eric was innocent. >> he asked me, do i have an attorney? i told him, yeah. i said, i promise you i'll call this lawyer today. >> so i was standing on line in a bank. >> peter cross remembers that phone call. >> mr. o'malley tells me, peter, i'm with the u.s. attorney's office. we know your client is innocent. that was such an emotional moment for me. i was like, tears welled up in my eyes right in front of the teller. >> i thank god every day for john o'malley. when i looked in that man's eyes, you know, i see a man who has integrity. i seen a man who was honest. >> o'malley's affidavit was enough for the bronx d.a. to reopen the case and to get in front of a judge. but that would take time. two more months. >> this is my wall of hope. everyone here has been unjustly convicted and freed. >> on august 5th, 2012, eric's lawyer goes to court. >> this is our first appearance to try to get the judgment vacated. >> cross is joined by his assistant charmaine chester. by now, they have worked on the case for six years. >> i want to see him out. i told him the last time i went up to sing sing, i'm not visiting you here again. this is it. >> finally, cross argues his case to the judge. >> my client has spent 17 years plus in jail for a crime he hasn't committed. >> but it doesn't go down like a hollywood script. prosecutors do not admit there's been a terrible mistake. >> your honor, we'll be seeking an extension of the time to answer those questions. >> how much of an extension are the people seeking? >> just -- at this point, 30 days. >> another month. cross is frustrated. >> he told me they were starting their investigation in june looking into this matter. i was able to get my papers ready and it seems to me that another couple of weeks should be enough to get a response to the motion. >> you've heard the saying that the wheels of justice grind slowly? now you've got a front-row seat. >> we have been trying to put together facts and circumstances surrounding this now 15-year-old trial. >> if at any point in time you make the determination that you're going to concede, i will advance the case. >> translation -- this isn't going to end today. eric stays in prison. but two weeks later, peter cross heads to sing sing. earlier that morning he'd gotten a call from the d.a.'s office and he has good news for eric. >> i received a call from the d.a. in the bronx telling me that they're ready to make a deal. i'm going up now to see eric, to talk to him about the conditions for his release. >> eric's used to visits from his lawyer. >> good to see you. >> and very used to keeping his own hopes -- >> looking good. >> thank you. >> -- on ice. >> get you out of the yard? >> yeah. i was working out, running, jogging. >> you know i wouldn't be coming up here -- >> cross wants to make sure this sinks in and so he slowly reveals the details. >> i was very surprised today. look. i got a call from ed pulte today saying that we have a proposal for you. the d.a. is now prepared to give you a conditional dismissal of the indictment and vacate the conviction. >> today? >> it's not going to be today. but it will be by the 13th i think. >> are you serious? >> do you believe that? >> well, it hasn't set in yet. >> i know. >> the initial shock. >> i know. >> all the fighting we have done over these years. >> yeah. >> um -- i don't know what to say right now. >> but unfortunately for eric, a month later he's still behind bars. >> these people just don't want to let me go. they want to continue to hold me and torture me. you know, the mental trauma i'm going through right now because of this, i'm wondering whether, you know, they may renege on this agreement. >> but as excruciating as the hours are, eric shares with us something beyond that wall of hope that's helped him wake up every morning. >> there's a bench by the water that each time i go to the barbershop i look at that bench and i wonder if i'll ever be able to sit on it and look back up here instead of looking down there. that's been one of my main goals while i was in here, to sit on that bench as a free man. >> will eric glisson ever get to sit on that bench? 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download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood. this bench outside sing sing is only a few hundred yards from the prison but to eric it might as well be in china. how many times you look at that bench? >> every day. >> and thinking i'll be on there one day? >> i want to see what it looks like from that bench to the window because all i know is what it looks like from the window to the bench. >> finally, on october 22nd, 2012, four months after a federal investigator vouched for eric's innocence, his day in court has come. eric's been transferred from sing sing and is waiting in a holding cell in the bronx county courthouse. >> apparently the court officers were advised -- >> it's also been a long, painful road for lawyer peter cross. >> this one case kept me up at night for six years because i knew we had to find, really like the one-armed man to get him out of jail. >> eric walks into the courtroom. >> number 4 and 5 on the calendar, eric glisson and kathie watkins. >> standing next to him is cathy watkins, the only woman of the bronx six. like eric, she was tried only for the cab driver's murder and in 1997 they went on trial together. eric says he doesn't know her now and didn't know her then. >> when trial started, the officers was bringing us up to the court and one of the officer's says this is watkins. i said, cathy watkins? she said yeah, who are you? i said, i'm eric glisson. how are you involved this? she says, i don't know. how are you involved? what's going on? we both didn't know. we was confused. >> now, 18 years later, assistant district attorney nicole keary says her office believes there may have been an injustice. but only agrees to release glisson and watkins if they wear monitor bracelets as the d.a.'s office continues to investigate. >> we have made a decision to take this unprecedented as you know, judge, and exceptional step that we are going to consent to the conditional vacating of the conviction for these two defendants and the condition being that the defendants do wear those electronic monitoring bracelets. >> all that's left now is for the judge to make it official. >> the record will reflect that the conditional vacater of the conviction as to mr. glisson and miss watkins is granted and each defendant is released on their own recognizance. [ applause ] >> eric's friends and family and the news media are waiting for him outside. and now, for the first time in nearly two decades, eric glisson is about to take his first steps as a free man. >> eric, what is your emotion right now? >> this is a major pivotal point in my life. and i worked hard. i persevered. and with effort and determination i'm standing here before you. >> now, it's his co-defendant cathy watkins' turn. also wrongfully convicted. >> 17 years. >> almost 18 years. >> 29 years old when she went away. she is free at 46. >> i didn't do it. i didn't do it. 100% innocent. this is our judicial system did to me. innocent all the way. >> by january 2013 the convictions for the rest of the bronx six were overturned. for both the cab driver murder and fed-ex executive denise raymond. this is carlos perez, 25 when he was locked up. finally a free man at 44. >> i even wrote the president. 1995. who was it, clinton? bush. i don't know who it was. i said mr. president, i'm innocent. but nobody listened. >> davon ayers. he was 19 when he was convicted. >> i spent all of my 20s and most of my 30s there. so i'm just trying to get on with life as i know it as today. >> and michael cosme. remember him? he was the only one videotaped by police. >> i only have one thing to say, though. i'm innocent. i didn't do it. i wasn't there. >> this is michael 18 years later. finally, someone believed him. and while we now know those two gang members confessed to the cab driver murder, fed-ex executive denise raymond's killer or killers have never been brought to justice. we wanted to speak to someone from the nypd or the bronx district attorney's office but both declined comment citing the multiple civil suits they face as the bronx six sought millions in damages against the city. and those two detectives, donnelly and aiello who were portrayed as super sleuths back in 1995, are now both retired and they didn't have anything to say to us. but in court filings attorneys for the city of new york denied that either detective threatened witnesses or falsified statements. and yet o'both new york city and state would ultimately agree to pay each of the bronx six millions of dollars in damages. but for eric the immediate challenge was starting a new life. one full of amazing discoveries. >> hello? 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talk to your asthma specialist about dupixent. if your financial situation has changed, we may be able to help. this way. >> listen, man. >> it's october 22nd, 2012. after living in a prison cell for 18 years, eric glisson is finally a free man. >> we're going past chelsea piers. >> and we are by his side as he experiences all of it. >> oh! i seen this in the magazine. >> eric's first few hours of freedom -- >> hello? >> are part exhilaration. >> hello? >> part discovery. >> hello? >> he's never actually used a cell phone. >> yeah. where's cynthia? hello? >> you have it upside down, eric. >> hello. >> no, no, upside down. like this. >> hello? huh? can you hear me now? like the commercial? >> his first meal? lamb chops. >> wow. >> it's like jumping up out of a coffin and walking, you know. like being read your last rites and all of a sudden a miracle happens. you're back out in society an you're wondering, you know, will they accept you? yeah. you see? >> on his first night of freedom, eric's lawyer treats him to a hotel room. >> i have a key that's a plastic card. wow. i used to sleep on a metal frame and now i'm on a comfortable bed. >> but the real joy for eric is reuniting with his daughter cynthia. >> cell phone towers. >> ready, set, go. >> she was just a week old when he was arrested. >> don't get too excited. you cheated. >> and that degree he began working on behind bars? eric started taking classes again two days after his release. and finally received that long-awaited diploma from mercy college. today, a fully exonerated eric glisson became a businessman, an entrepreneur. >> i'm doing everything single handedly. all of the reconstruction of the ceiling. >> there's going to be four tables. >> on the one-year anniversary of his release, eric opened a fresh juice business that he built himself named fresh take. >> afternoon, sir. how are you doing? >> nice place you have here. >> thanks. >> where did you get fresh take? >> i knew that i had a fresh take on life. i'm free now. i'm no longer the victim. i'm the victor. i won. >> you seem to have come through this remarkably free of bitterness and anger or you're hiding it very well. >> well, i don't have any animosity against anybody at this point. except the people who grow strawberries and raised the prices. because the strawberry's the primary thing. >> because that's a crime. >> yeah, it is a crime. i mean -- >> eric had a business partner. someone he met when he he was still locked up. >> he's become my brother. >> it's charmain chester. his lawyer's assistant. >> i call him my bratty little brother and i'm the annoying older sister. >> they opened their store in late 2013. >> pivotal point in my life. it taught -- it gave me a lot of tools. >> on this day, we had a little surprise for him. he hadn't seen sister joanna chance since he was released. a woman who put eric on a quest for freedom all those years ago. >> oh, my god! oh my god! oh my god! grandma. oh my god. >> congratulations. >> thank you. oh my god. they told me you were in china. >> i was. >> and there was one last thing we wanted to do with eric. remember that bench eric could see from inside sing sing? we took him back there. and we watched him finally make good on that promise to himself. to get that other view of the prison. this time from the outside. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> my question is why. i didn't need who. my only question is why? >> they were beautiful people, in miami's sizzling south beach. singles who became lovers, and then newlyweds. >> you may kiss the bride. >> congratulations. >> they were still on their honeymoon, only married four days, when this young bride was murdered. >> i get a phone call, screaming, crying. >> no murder weapon, no dna, but no shortage of suspects. >> you gotta pro i

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