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MSNBCW Ayman July 3, 2024

Of morocco this hour. Unfortunately, Tragically Thousands are dead after a deadly 6. 8 magnitude earthquake struck near the city of marrakech. We will have the update in just a moment on that tragedy. Plus, a major win for prosecutors in georgia as a judge rules against mark meadows. But that could be a huge setback for donald trump. And senator tubervilles blockade, his colleagues wont call him out, but those who actually served well. Im Ayman Mohyeldin, lets get started. We start overseas with the powerful earthquake which has killed more than 2000 people, injuring more than 2000 others in moroccos Southern Region. Search and rescue teams are still reaching some of the most affected areas, many of which are remote in mountains as we see that staggering death toll continue to rise. Sky news correspondent adam parsons is in marrakech. Then marrakech is having to come to terms with its burden of grief and also the chaos that has followed this natural disaster. And theres still real fear about what could happen. Heres a very good example of that nervousness, this restaurant behind me which badly damaged by the earthquake on friday night, but it only actually collapsed hours and hours later. Its that nervousness thats affecting so many people here. Its why you see Hundreds Sleeping Rough because they are fearful that buildings and their homes might yet collapse. Marrakech is a huge city, its a Tourist Capital of the medina here, its a famous cultural site. And weve seen the buildings there have fallen to the ground. This is a unesco protected city. So very hard to make those ancient buildings earthquake proof. But we ran up to the airport and we saw military planes that have been bringing people back from the worst affected areas. Its a group just up there, a helicopter that was about to take off and try to shuttle people but that is still the big question here. Those villages up in the mountains are very, very hard to get to at the best of times. Now of course, those roads have been damaged. We simply dont know how many more people have been injured or killed up there in the atlas mountains. Morocco has declared three days of National Mourning for this tragedy that has happened and is having to come to terms with it and cope with the ramifications. Our thanks to skies adam parsons for that. Of course, we will keep an eye on whats happening in morocco. We will bring you updates over the next several hours as we get them. We do want to switch gears now following several major developments in Fulton County, fani williss attention attempts by donald trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election. Thats been up to speed with some of those. A major win for prosecutors on friday, a judge denied mark meadowss bid to move his case to Federal Court saying that he failed to prove his actions at the time of the alleged conspiracy. Were not part of his duties as a government official. U. S. District judge, steve see jones said, state prosecutors, quote, put forth evidence that had various points at the time of the alleged conspiracy, what else worked with the Trump Campaign which he admitted was outside of the rule of white house chief of staff. Meadows says he plans to appeal but the decision is also a major setback for the ex president himself. Who was hoping to jump on the Federal Court bandwagon. On friday, the judge overseeing the racketeering case, he may seek to have the prosecution to Federal Court. If the cases, moved trump would have the opportunity to argue that the charges should be dismissed because his actions fell under his duties as president. Were gonna learn more about that possible request in the coming weeks, trump has within 20 days of his Arraignment Waiver which he submitted on august 21st to file the motion. And another Fulton County news, former trump lawyer kevin chesbrough, one of 19 defendants who to dismiss the r. I. C. O. Charges against him. The motion follows a wednesday Court Reading that extra mppoa lawyer, sydney powells mission, for separate trials. Tasman and powell are said to go to trial to gather on october 23rd which is another major win for georgia prosecutors. But, at that hearing which we were able to watch unfold live on camera for the first time, the judge said he remained, quote, very skeptical, very single trial for all 19 defendants would even be feasible, especially considering that some defendants like chesebro and powell have invoked the right to a speedy trial while others have not. Capping off a week packed with pretrial developments, we finally got our hands on a long awaited report from the Georgia Special grand jury that essentially tasked with investigating the effort last. Here ill tell you what the major top line. Was recommendations for the indictment of more than three dozen people, including 21 who were not charged by d. A. Fani willis. Among the 21 individual, some names you may recognize. People like Michael Flynn who was of course Trumps National security adviser. Former Georgia Republican senators, david perdue and kelly loeffler. They were both in office at the time of the 2020 election. Most notably senator Lindsey Graham, the current senator, republican senator, south carolina. Here is his reaction to that report yesterday. What i did was consistent with my job as being United States senator, chairman of the judiciary committee. We were open up pandoras box and i think the system of this country is getting off the rails, we have to be careful not to use the legal system as a political tool. Again, senator graham and these other individuals were not charged by fani willis in the Racketeering Conspiracy Indictment handed down last month. But clearly the panel believe there was sufficient evidence to include them in the recommendation. Here to break down that whirlwind week of developments, David Henderson, a silva rights attorney. Hes also an msnbc contributor. Renitta shannon, a former Democratic State representative, and Jonathan Alter substack old g. O. A. T. With Jonathan Alter. Its good to have all three of you with us. David, with start with the significance of this meadows ruling. How much of a chance does he have on appeal and how do you think trumps legal team is handling the news considering that he was making a play for similar move . This is one of the situations where its like slim to none and some didnt come to town. I dont think has a good shot on peel. But this really means for the forthcoming Battle For Former President Trump and everyone involved in this case is when the key arguments they were hoping they could make in the state of georgia and thats a Mistake Of Law Versus mistook a fact. The example here is if you get involved in a situation where a guy bought a bag of oregano that turned out to be marijuana. Its not the best defense but you could say, hey, i thought it was oregano. Thats nonstick effect. Thats a defense in georgia. But you cant say is, hey, i knew it was wed but its legal in my states whether it was legal here. Even to the extent to say my lawyer said was the goal so i thought was legal here, its not a defense in georgia. Thats what theyre losing when they can transfer this case to Federal Court which if meadows couldnt do it, i dont think any of them can. Interesting. Representative shannon, if some defendants accident having their cases moved to Federal Court even if its a remote possibility, one quart difference will be the lack of cameras in the courtroom. How important is it for the American People to watch this trial unfold in this entirety . I think its extremely important, i think your coverage is extremely important as other media thats covering the indictment because when you look at the interviews thats coming from some people that have been indicted even those that have not been indicted, theyre saying things like, i was asking questions, cant people have questions about elections. Theyre saying that they were unfairly indicted and they are banking betting on the fact that they think the General Public will not read the indictment and will just take them at the work that they are being unfairly prosecuted. So having this case be televised here, which is what the decision was for georgia, who allowed the General Public to understand that these people are not being unfairly charged, they did a lot more than they were saying they did and they are trying to have a move to Federal Court so they dont have to face the scrutiny of the General Public who through a court case will surely learn why they were indicted. Jonathan, why does the wind for these prosecutors on Public Opinion . Just seeing the actual workings of the legal system played on realtime actually change peoples minds . While the polls show that peoples reaction to a possible conviction quite different from the reaction to an indictment. So the question here is not about what happens with trumps base, there on fifth avenue as well. But the independents hold the Balance Of Power in any president ial election. Theyre up for grabs. And the news this week we can switch argument that trump is making. Think about people like Lindsey Graham, Michael Flynn, who are not indicted. Fani willis decided that she was not going to indict a large number of people because there wasnt enough evidence to convince a jury. That means that she is very confident that for the people she didnt died including the former president , she does have enough evidence. This is not an indiscriminate prosecution. Its not a witch hunt. Shes being very methodical deciding which cases have enough evidence and who has a chance of being convicted. David, let me get your thoughts on the grand jury report and i think a lot of people are wondering, despite you believe willis declined to indict 21 individuals despite the fact that charges were recommended by Special Grand Jury . Why did she decide 19 and not these 21, and i guess ultimately, does that undermine the but these other 19 are charged . For it doesnt undermine what the other 19 are charged with, but it shows you that fani what shes accused of doing. Thats just charging everyone she possibly could with everything she possibly could. The reason why is you have to remember the prosecutors have to exercise discretion in terms of what charges they actually bring and one of the things we havent discussed a lot is the incredible lift thats involved with these cases. These cases occupy a significant amount of days willis time and they will for the next couple of years. But one of the things it took me a long time to get used to was how many cases we had were terrible things happened where we had to prosecute. If you stop and think that the teachers candle case took eight months to try and it hug and this case is gonna have. Theres no way this case is going to take at least a year, and every time its letters, it has more time its gonna occupy. She has to be smart about where she is going to bring charges. Interesting, representative shannon, as i mentioned there are several u. S. Senators listed in that report including two former senators from your state. That means some of their own constituents but these lawmakers should be indicted. What do you make of that . I think that people were really paying attention to the evidence and were paying attention to what these two were doing. And i think that makes the point that i was making before, most of these people are saying, hey, this is ridiculous Candidate Behavior where questions are asked after the election. I can tell you after having been a former candidate several times, youre allowed to call the secretary of States Office and say, hey, are how many outstanding ballots are there are they overseas . Ballots from the military, for example . Are they ballots that need to be cured and have the opportunity by voters to cure the ballots . Thats not what folks like Lindsey Graham did or kelly loeffler, or perdue. They were calling and asking things like, can you throw out counties that have higher discrepancies and signature match . Can you just throw out all the Absentee Ballots . Those arent typical questions that a candidate or anyone who was involved in a campaign would be asking. And i think that even the they individuals who are part of the grand jury just hearing that information with no experience of ever being a candidate, even they were able to see that this was not normal behavior. Its the reason why these folks were mentioned for potential indictment. Jonathan, if day fani willis did have her hands full this, week she now has to deal with jim jordan congressman jim jordan. She blasted him over his inquiry into her indictment of trump, accusing him of overstepping his congressional authority. In fact she wrote in a letter, your Job Description as a legislator does not include criminal law enforcement, nor does it include supervising up specific criminal troubles because you believe doing so will promote your partisan political objectives. She really brought it down on jim jordan. He is not what his desperate interference attempts. Has his congressmen met his match and d. A. Willis . And is he in fact over region and overstepping his role as a legislator . Hes clearly overstepping his role, and shes a formidable woman. Its great to see her prove it. And this is something a lot of people who have been targets of these maga shots have learned from. Politics is a combat sport. Shes a politician, shes an elected official. Its perfectly fine for her to russian back. I dont think any of this is of any great consequence. However, i do feel like theres Something Else that happened very recently that came under the radar. Keep an eye on the small fry. Read small fry georgia officials. David schaffer, and kathleen the for. Why dont mention their names . They all petition to judge and they were just operating in the direction of the president of the United States when they made false statements and falsified papers, killing themselves electors when they were not. They were fake electors and they said the president told them to do it. If they testified to that effect, they are in big trouble for donald trump. David, as a former prosecutor yourself, obviously thats not a legitimate defense. Weve seen that go all the way back to the nuremberg trials, when use of the government just because youre asked to do or engage in criminal activity, you cant just say, hey, my boss told me to do. It thats not a good defense. We have to consider in the situation is what youre also acknowledging when you say that your boss told you to do with the elements that that to that testimony or part of the crime youve been charged with. Here so its easy to forget that rico is a law thats designed to catch people that the law system otherwise could not catch. And what were gonna see this case as it develops is that what weve forgotten what continuing as a candidate to spread all the charges, pretty forget is, when his folks go to court, they lose and they lose huge. Thats what all the litigation has become about, they lose huge as it starts happening, as people start getting nervous about house gun affect them each of their 19, youre gonna start to see to splinter. Panel question to you about the politics in georgia, just how much of an impact is this going to have on the Republican Party, for some of us as outside observers, the state is in shambles in terms of the civil war that brian kemp or is bringing against donald trump in the back acolytes, but at the same time there are still people there that very much support donald trump. Thats having a huge effect on the Republican Party and republicans in georgia. Because if you live in georgia in the last decade, youve seen whats happened as far as the republicans moving into more of the party of trump. Recently we saw that brian kemp decided he was not Gonna Go To Jail For Donald Trump and overturn the election. And he actually survived reelection while casting trump aside and not doing trumps bidding. So right now we have happening with this case going on is that many are wanted brian kemp to do more. Like they want Senior Republicans to do more to help trump, but these folks have already proven that they can get reelected without being on the side of trump. So this is really having a huge. Affect the whole thing is really interesting. I would say for the national Republican Party because when you look at, a Trump Campaign not making America Great again. He didnt happen. He campaign and said that the country would be so sick of winning once he was president. That didnt happen. What he has succeeded at is running up legal bills for. Them and losing. As johnson said in new hampshire, hes losing. Thanks so much fo

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