Not even lie down and cells of that size shared one sink, four shower force 176 people. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. President trump has become first sitting american president to meet with a north Korean Leader at the dmz and even briefly cross on to north korean soil. Is this third facetoface meeting can kim jongun more photoop . Considering offering kim a Nuclear Freeze. Letting him keep his current stockpile of weapons and missiles instead of denuclearizing. Hardliner john bolton, National Security adviser who was not with the president over the weekend denies that, tweeting today i read this New York Times with curiosity. Nor the nsc staff nor i have discussed or heard of any desire to settle for a Nuclear Freeze by north korea. This was a relationship rehencible attempt by someone to box in the president. There should be consequences. National politico reporter and msnbc political analyst and victor cha, director of asian fairs and president bushs National Security council and msnbc korean fairs analyst. This was clearly a made for Television Moment and Nuclear Freeze is not what they say they are going after. The pluses and minuses of what President Trump pulled off with his visit . Crossing into north korea, thats something you imagine the president would do after he got all the nukes out of north korea and signed a peace treaty. He likes to cham victory before the game is even started. The notion of a freeze, if in a context of a deal to remove all the weapons from north korea is a natural first step. If its in the context of an agreement that would lead to a declaration of all their capabilities, that would lead to a timeline for dismantle and removal, then its a first step. The way i interpret a freeze, they get to keep what theyve got. Right. And 50, 60 weapons. That would be, again, completely unacceptable. If the president said i crossed into north korea, youre my best friend and ill settle for a freeze, that would be a disaster for the united states, sources for u. S. And japan and a threat to the entire region. The real question is donald trump, just being nice to kim jongun, can achieve a declaration, a removal of all the weapons. The lifting of sanctions isnt different this time. One thing is this bromance, this effort to try to gain kim jonguns trust. Dictators generally dont trust anybody. Im not clear if this will lead to a denuclearization agreement. Wendy sherman, you negotiated in the past i was with you in pyongyang and again at the state department in the Obama Administration. President trump said he got to do this and its something that President Trump wanted to do. Ill play the president and have you talk on the other side. President obama wanted to meet and chairman kim would not meet him. The Obama Administration was begging for a meeting. They were begging for meetings constantly and chairman kim would not meet with him. Susan rice tweeted in response, at the risk of stating the obvious this is horse expletive deleted. Jeremy bash said he had never heard of it. To your knowledge, was the Obama White House pleading for a meeting with kim jongun . Absolutely not. As President Trump himself has said, the Obama Administration approach was strategic patience, and that was not going to be the Trump Administration approach. Though i would note the president of the united states, donald trump, has now said hes not in any hurry. I agree with victors analysis and whats most disturb iing abt the trip to north korea, kim jongun came at the end of an authoritarian beauty contest that took place at the g20 as President Trump met with one authoritarian leader after another but kim jongun takes the cake as the worlds premier dictator. At the same time, robert costa, the president seems completely wedded to this idea of some kind of achievement. He seems to have a 2020 calendar in mind. He has a 2020 calendar in mind. He also has a doctrine thats develop i developing at the foreof his Foreign Policy. His top advisers tell me he hopes to contain them at a level. Is he doing too much to talk to people like Mohammed Bin Salman, crown prince of saudi arabia, with kim jongun and others . Hes dealing with challenges on Foreign Policy, relaxing sanctions on different Chinese Companies like huawei, walking away from the trade war, dealing with china, iran and the nuclear situation. Something he could sell, as you say in 2020. The north korean Propaganda Machine was in overdrive. Let me play you their video of what happened at the dmz. [ speaking Foreign Language ] and put out still photos of ivanka trump who met with kim jongun as well. So, there was a lot to be seen, victor. This has been all over the media, were told from our correspondents in korea. Yeah. From the north korean perspective, this is a huge victory. The u. S. President. That translates for the north koreans into acceptance, defacto acceptance as a Nuclear Weapons stat state. Ronald reagan says trust but verify, famously. First step is to get an inventory. Thats what mike pompeo said about north korea after singapore. Lets find out what they have, what are their secret sites, not just what they offered, which was well known. We need to know what were negotiating. You cant negotiate about something that your opponent doesnt acknowledge having. We have some idea of what north korea has but if their declaration doesnt match theres not a symbol or sign theyre serious about the negotiation. The president seems to be saying over and own again, they havent had a nuclear test of course, wendy, theyve had shortrange missile tests, incredibly threatening to our allies in south korea and japan. Short range missile tests. They havent stopped improving their missile technology. The underlying program has grown throughout this process, throughout this b romance, the president saying its about me and kim jongun. Well see if these negotiations get under way at a working level. Thats how well begin to make any progress here. I want to ask you about iran. You negotiated the iran nuclear deal, verified not only by their announcement but International Weapons inspectors for the u. N. Have exceeded their limits of stockpiled nuclear fuel. This does not initially mean the end of the deal, andrea. There is a process through the joint commission, the parties that remain in the deal to consider this potential violation appears to be indeed one because the Atomic Energy has verified, gone over the 300 kilogram stockpile limit. This does not lead to an immediate lessening. I would suspect that first at a working level and as the iranians have pointed out themselves its reversible, as opposed to irreversible. They could back way from this, much as they did when they exceeded the heavy water limit earlier in this process i see it as a negotiating tactic, as a way for the iranians to see if the europeans, in fact, will make this special Purpose Vehicle work for iran on friday, the European Union said this special Purpose Vehicle was up and functioning. Were on a knifes edge but not yet over the edge. To robert costa, john bolton was in mongolia. You cant get much farther away from the action at the dmz. Certainly they iced him out of these negotiations yet the president was inviting kim jongun to washington, to the white house. Who will win out here, the hardliners or i guess the president will win out ultimately. So often in administrations, and you covered so many, andrea, it is a battle between the hardliners and dovish advisers around the president. Boltons lack of presence in north korea was certainly a statement in and of itself. It really is all about President Trump, his own interactions with leaders, how he sees things through a personal prism. Thats whats driving Foreign Policy, not so much a hawk in his ear like ambassador bolton or the secretary of state. Are there tensions among advisers . There certainly are. Its about how the president personally responds to stimulus on Foreign Policy and relationship. That is what has all the advisers around him monitoring those exchanges. Certainly a significant weekend in Foreign Policy. Thank you for being with us to sort it all out. Thanks to all. And we turn now to breaking news in hong kong. Youre looking at live pictures. Police are facing off protesters after the protesters had broken through a barricade, storming the legislature after tens of thousands of protesters had taken to the streets, demanding a full withdrawal and the resignation of city leader carrie lam. 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The schools of america are segregated, if not more than when i was a student. Theres no such thing as second but equal. So bussing is one of the methods by which we create desegregation and make it more equal. On pride day in San Francisco, Kamala Harris races now to the front and center 2020 campaign after she put down joe biden during thurgs debate, boosting her fundraising and poll numbers. It also made her the target of racist tweets, including a retweet from donald trump jr. Challenging her claim to be black. That prompted an outcry from rival 2020 candidates coming to her defense. Joining me now is peter hart, nbc news, and pollstera. A. B. D stoddard. Welcome. First of all, harris rise, a. B. , lets talk about the way she took on joe biden. Obviously, it was very well planned. So well planned they had tshirts made up. Some are criticizing that as being too aggressive. She took him on, not only the way he analogyized getting along with others to democrats who were segregationists and very racist in the 70s but the way he talked about bussing. Its interesting she yes, she was very prepared to change the do i namices in this race and she was going to go there was no question. There was no nothing. She interrupted and began launching a multiparagraph attack with the sentence youre not a racist to the frontrunner. He was not prepareed for the ferocity of her challenge and her attack and so he stumbled. He thought maybe this would come up. He was ready, i guess, to be attacked ferociously by bernie. And i think theres a conversation going on about whether or not she is going to face a backlash to her complicated attack on joe biden, which was meant to show primary voters, i can take on donald trump in a debate and im very tough. But she used that issue in a very personal way that is to her benefit. Contributions overnight, a bump in the polls. She has new endorsements. The people with biden, including black voters and members of the Congressional Black Caucus are wondering if thats the kind of thing that down the road will be looked upon as a mistake. And donald trump jr. Was talking about her claim to be black. She is a black american born in california. Her father was a jamaican black man, her mother an indian, they were both immigrants. This whole given rise to birtherism 2. 0 with don junior, don juniors spokesperson, spokesman said dons tweet was simply him asking if it was true that Kamala Harris was half indian, because its not something he had ever heard before. Once he saw folks were misconstruing the intent of his tweet, he quickly deleted it, kimberly. Then you had christina Katrina Pearson now a Campaign Adviser also tweeting these racist suggestions. Right. About her racial identity. And President Trump, who was one of the lead birthers against barack obama, this speaks to the exact same thing. These tweets he was retweeting is pushing this false narrative that somehow the black community does not support her because shes not a descendent to slaves, shes not black enough. Its ridiculous. Its not surprising given how difficult it was to tamp down. I dont know if it was ever fully tamped down, the attacks of barack obama in this way. It wouldnt have mattered if she attacked joe biden this would have come sooner or later as she continues to rise in this field. Its disappointing but not surprising. Cory booker came to her defense strongly on meet the press. Bernie sanders in his appearance in New Hampshire yesterday and Pete Buttigieg on twitter. So her the rival contenders are quickly and the Biden Campaign. And the Biden Campaign as well. Peter hart, youve been looking at the wall street journal poll numbers as well as pew research on attitudes on racial identifications and on peoples attitudes toward racial prejudic prejudice. Were just a terribly divided country. Thats where we are in this election. There are two silos, republicans and democrats and theres a small sliver of people who are independents. And when it comes to how they look at issues, whether its registration or race or anything else, they look at it as, quote, black and white. And so different. And so anything thats tha suggests on this july 4th week were looking at the democrats, believe me, there are two camps and they are not getting together. And a nation pulling together and moving forward, were not even close to that. That also responds to those people raising their hands, those democrats who said they would give health care to immigrants. That plays into racial biesz. No doubt about it. Theyre not thinking about the general election and where they want to position themselves. Theyre thinking how do i get a leg up on the candidate on my right or my left and what do i do . Standing next to me . Standing next to me. Or even in terms of ideology. A. B. , i see you nodding. In talking to Party Operatives about that handraising moment theyre going to have to walk that back. Emergency rooms provide care to everyone suffering in an emergency. But the Affordable Care act did not provide coverage to people who came here illegally. Are you not going to be covered if youre here illegally . Thats not clear and will be painted by the other side as free stuff for everybody no matter how you came here. Kimberly, biden friday was trying to fix his problem. Some would say he made it worse. The kid wearing the hoodie may be the next poet laureate and not a gang banger. There are too many black men and i might add women in prison. Look, we know joe biden has a reputation for flubbing and putting his foot in his mouth. Racial stereotypes. They are. You saw cory booker go after him about that. Theyre not saying they believe hes racist or a bad guy. Theyre saying he is not the person who is the standard bearer for the minority voters that the democrats will need to galvanize and get to the polls in order to win. Is that arguably his weak point that hes not current, not forward looking, that hes too old to run . Campaigns always move forward. We dont go backwards. If we had a british system it might work well for joe biden. Its a long primary season and its tough to start at 40 and hold on to that. Peter hart, thank you so much. A. B. Stoddard, kimberly hawkins. President trump favoring meetings and sitdowns with strong men over democratic allies on his international trip. Stay with us on Andrea Mitchell reports. Mitchell reports. Only fidelity offers four zero Expense Ratio index funds directly to investors. And now we have zero account fees for brokerage accounts. At fidelity, those zeros really add up. So maybe ill win, saved by zero you might or joints. Hing those for your heart. Up. But do you take something for your brain. 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