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MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports September 14, 2018

Guilty to the two charges was it a straight guilty plea or cooperating, and we have learned that in the past hour, he has flipped. A as colleague pointed out on twitter, when you cooperate with the prosecutors you dont get an opportunity to decide what to talk about, but you have to tell everything that you know, and if you are lie, you can be be charged with perjury, and so they have a huge hammer over his head, and he has to tell them about his time as the Trump Campaign manager and he came with massive connections to the russianbacked figures and including a man that the mueller team says was tied to rusrussia and he was in Constant Contact with constantine kalymnik, and so he is going to have to cooperate. And you said, i think that this is a bombshell, and what you said when i came on, and why . Well, not so much that he is pleading giuilty to, and unrelated to the time on the campaign, but as ken pointed out, when you are cooperating you are agreeing to tell the prosecutors about anything about any crime, include ing ting the that you have committed and others have committed. There is an Ongoing Investigation relate nod the election, and Paul Manafort is at a minimum the subject of the separate investigation, and now what he has agreed to do is to give the prosecutor the all of the information that he has about his time on the campaign. He wast that june 16th trump tower meeting, and he was the principle responsible for the platform change presumably at the Republican National convention, and Paul Manafort was in the room for the critical time in the summer of 2016, and he would know if there was any conspiracy between anyone on Trumps Campaign and the russians. We know that the russians meddled and infiltrated the election, and that has been charged by Robert Mueller, but what we are waiting to see if any americans conspired to do it with them, and Paul Manafort if anyone would know, and Paul Manafort would know o. Are you surprised on either side that the deal got made . I am surprised that he is cooperating at this point. Remember, he has been in jail since june and that happens to change peoples minds, right, when you are and draw the contrast, that this is the man who is living a lifestyle that 99. 99 of the world cannot even begin to fathom. Absolutely. And so all of the sudden, he is going from the riches to the rags of a jail cell can and t, will have a significant effect on someone. But i would have expected him to face reality prior to the trial. And the fact that he continued to spend the money to fight the charges all of the way up and through the trial which does reduce the value of his cooperation, and lets be clear. If he had cooperated very early on, the value of that to the prosecutors would be much greater than it is now, because there are so many contradictory statements that he has to deal with, and he tampered with the witnesses, and he is not a good cooperating witness, but the information is gold. And if he is going to do it, i would have expected it long a ago. And i would testify to the fact that it is a great witness, and we have heard that it is coming very fast jeff ben nit, and we have heard from sarah sand ers that was a statement from robert giuliani, and what we have to say about this, and the. And the statements from Sarah Sanders and rudy joule ygiulian each other. This is Sarah Sanders, this had absolutely nothing to do with the president or his campaign, and the reason that the president did nothing wrong, and i will point out that the statement from giuliani is just reissued and revised in the last ten minutes or so, and the statement that we got from giuliani is that and Paul Manafort is going to tell the truth, and that is omitted in the correction, and the white house is careful to make the point that, it was Paul Manaforts work with the campaign and it is known that Paul Manafort was a known quantity before he was hired by the president , and it no secret that he made the personal fortune doing the lobbying work, and the consulting work in shady figures all around the world, and it is the reason that he was unemployable in domestic politics, and you heard him say this he worked for Ronald Reagan and bob dole, and President Trump is that the large part of the work he did for the philippines and other countries in the world. And other point that they tend to make is that after a short time in the campaign and although we know that he was the Campaign Chairman in the crucial moment that it was not clear that Paul Manafort was chosewen the candidates and that trump had amassed had stayed with the campaign, and we know from the Court Document s ths that he wa allegedly committing crimes while he was the Campaign Chairman and laundering money and registering as a a foreign agent, chris. And going back to what the white house said and we could expect Daniel Goldman saying that it does not have anything to do with President Trump and this is not going to happen while he was in the Trump Campaign and what does he say and what does manafort think . Well, manafort is thinking of saving his own hide, and that is is why he ultimately cooperated. Only two ways to be able to get out from under sentence that he was facing in virginia. One is to cooperate and write a let toter to the judge seeking reduced sentence and the other is a pardon and it seems that he controlled the one that he could be in control of which is to cooperate. And giuliani and Sarah Sanders are absolutely correct that nothing he plead guilty to right now relates to donald trump, but, and this is a huge but, the elephant in the room is what does he know, what Additional Information does he have about donald trump and about the campaign. So, yes, we are in a waiting game and we have been in the waiting game for quite a while, and we know that Robert Mueller has been fastidiously investigating this for a few months now, and this is a huge break because of manaforts role to the extent that there were any crimes committed by any one in the Trump Campaign, and when you start to adding up, and Paul Manafort and rick gates and these were were all central figures that were cooperating. And every time you have a cooperating witness, it is not somebody with a stellar reputation and the reason is that they did something that they should havent have done, and the picture of Paul Manafort at that trial apart from the legality of it, and the lifestyle of moving a pool just a short little way of redoing the pool areas to get the right combination of the sun and shade and the ostrich jackets a and a quart over million landscaping the home in the hamptons and on and on and rick gates is sort of, i dont want to say the worst nightmare, but he is not a stellar example of why you have a cooperating witness. He was a a poor witness. How concerned are you about Paul Manafort and his ability, and his credibility and his ability to convince a jury . So one of the big, probably the biggest problem that the prosecutors ran into with rick gates is that he had gotten additional breaks. He had some channels dismissed and they did not charge him for other criminal conduct that he committed and it looked very bad on the stand. I do think that the special counsel has learned the lesson a little bit from that and as you are looking from the information that Paul Manafort is pleading guilty to, he is not getting any breaks on the conduct for which he has been charged thus far, and we dont know what else is to come, and none of the charges or the conduct was dismissed and it is all included in here. And so it is not going to be be able to make the mistake that they did with rick gates. The Biggest Issue for rick gates is that he plead guilty of obstruction of justice for lying to the the government in 2016 and 2017, and about his foreign lobbying, and about his u. S. Lobby i lobbying on behalf of foreign country, and he tampered with witnesses, and he tried to get them to change their story. Those are two very problematic things for a cooperating witn s witness, and he is going to be, and he is going to struggle on the krx with those twocrossexa and we are almost out of time, but talking about how far the mighty have fallen and basically Paul Manafort is giving up properties all over the place, right . Yeah, a 10bedroom mansion in the hamptons. I want to update you what has happened in the court, he has l alocuted, and what that means is did you agree to this and he said yes, he did. And so the question is if he is going to be coming out on bail. The judge has revoked the bail in related to the witness tampering charges and been in the jail cell sleeping, so it is possible to be granted bail as part of the plea agreement, and when have to wait and see. Ken, thank you so much, and we appreciate that. And jeff and Daniel Goldman as well. We will come back in a little bit, and talk about the possibility of a pardon, and what this means even more broadly for the case that is being put together by Robert Mueller, but up next, we will go back to ali velshi who is leading the coverage of Hurricane Florence in myrtle beach, South Carolina. Ali, how are you doing out there . It is windy and raining, and i am not getting close to the worst of of it. Right now, it is above mariana atensio, and we will talk to her on the other side of the break, and al roker will be with us to make sense of where this storm is going, and how damaging it is going the b. Im o to be. Im in myrtle beach, South Carolina, and our continuing coverage of Hurricane Florence continues after the break. Theres little rest for a single dad, and back pain made it hard to sleep and get up on time. Then i found aleve pm. The only one to combine a safe sleep aid, plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. Im back. Aleve pm for a better am. Continuing coverage here in myrtle beach about 65 miles southwest of where the hurricane came in at 7 15 this morning, and in wilmington, North Carolina, at wrightsville beach, and that is where it came on land. And unlike a normal hurricane, this thing has been skirting around and coming southwest, and going a little bit inland, and it is probably about 25 miles from me right now. And heres the thing. We have probably passed high tide here, and this high tide is probably, about an eighth of a mile out than it was at the same time yesterday. This is why, you see the wind hitting me from this side. This hurricane is coming around like this. It is comes from over there like this way, and the way that the bottom of the hurricane is work working is that it is forcing the water here, and the high tide is coming in, and the water is working against it which may affect how this area is going to flood. I will talk to al roker about where this thing is going, and where the dangers are, and in fact, there is danger that the thing could go as far inland as columbia, South Carolina, but right now, it is hanging around 40 miles to the northeast, which is where we will find mariana atensio in oak island, and what is the situation where you are . So, ali, i wanted to come out to the beach just to show you that it is high tide right now, and if you are looking at my feet, you can see thou water is coming in . This is the farthest the water has reached at this point. I can see some tof the dunes cover ed ed by the water, becaut is high tide. And there is a shift as you were saying. The hurricane before, the winds were coming from the west, and now there is a shift in the wind, and it is coming from the southwest, and that is when, we are really going to start, and i am feeling it now, starting to get pounded by that sand, and the south facing beach is going to be seeing the worse ott of Hurricane Florence. I want to ask my producer, peteter, who is in the car to give you some context at how close the water is to these Oceanfront Properties here. Many of the owners and the residents who we u talked to said that they were evacuating these home, and it was not safe to stay here, because as you can see, many of them are built on the stilts just from the prior experiences of the hurricanes like floyd, and like matthew, but many of those are wooden stilts, so it was not really safe for many of the residents here to be left inside of those homes. I want, peter, can you drive farther down, because i want to show ali how the flooding is can you drive farther down. There are mailboxes that are already toppled, and power lines that have been toppled, and trees that have been toppled. I have been told though that the power is not out on this island yet, because of the power lines are also underground, but the flooding of many of the streets, ali, it reached up to my knees in some areas, and so, again, that is why many people left the island, because they did not want to get stuck here. Back to you. Alley. All right. Mariana atencio in oak island, and as you described w we are on the same side of the storm, and the wind is coming from the west to the east, and that is going the change a little bit later. And the wind on the other side of the storm starts blowing from the east at the time that we get our next high tide about 12 hours from now, then we will have a problem here in myrtle beach, South Carolina and other areas like it. Lets go to al rocher who can give us a a sense of what it is, and i dont know where the winds are, but we are starting to get the heavy sustained winds here, and it is feeling like it is above 60 Miles Per Hour, but you tell me what is going on. And that is probably the case. And Interesting Development right now. We are, a are watching the system 25 miles west southwest of wilmington, North Carolina. And 80mileanhour winds, and it has picked up the forward speed a little bit. It is now moving at 6, but it is moving to the the southwest. And if it is continuing to do that, it is coming out back out into the ocean which would mean that we might see a second landfall. And for you, in myrtle beach, alley, that would mean that it comes down, and as it is coming down, you will get actually if it were to continue on that path, you in myrtle beach, you would be on the strong side, the Northeast Quadrant and your winds would be coming in from the east, and maybe northeast and that would be really rough for the storm surge. We have to you know, here, let me show you the path right now. This is the the path from the National Hurricane center, and it is keeping it going straight. Going west, and maybe a little west southwest. Then continues past columbia, South Carolina, as a Tropical Storm, and then it makes kind of a bit of the right turn and continues up into the ohio river valley, and ends up wednesday in the northeast. But in the meantime, we are really concerned about it making the more west southwesterly turn, and if it doesnt, it is back out in the ocean, and may see a landfall somewhere along South Carolina. And the wind gusts of wilmington, and 78 Miles Per Hour, and ali, you are seeing the wind gusts of 67 Miles Per Hour, and raleigh with 43 Miles Per Hour, and look at that up into the northern part of North Carolina. Right along the coast, wilmington is near 100 Power Outages, and 70 to 90 as you are coming further down the coast toward charleston and we are seeing the good Power Outages there with the storm surge and the big story, and where 49 to 90 of the deaths occur. So this is past high tide, and another one tonight around midnight tonight, and the big zone is between cape fear and cape lookout for a 7 to 11 foot storm surge. The rainfall amounts that we are talking about again another 10 to 20 inches possible. Atlantic beach up right along the shoreline there, and North Carolina is just outside of wilmington, and we are talking about so far 30 inches of rain, ali. So, again, depending upon this path, if it is not going to make a little bit of the turn, it is going to be coming out into the ocean, and now your area is going to be seeing a strong storm surge from the east or the northeast. Al, really quickly, can we talk about the population here, because this is such an unpredictable storm. Ov over to the last few days, we have talked about charlotte, and columbus, and raleigh, and even mentions of atlanta, and what are the cities in danger of getting at least remnants of the storm that could at least cause some serious flood iing . Well, i want to come back again over here to the path m

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