Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports 20170926 : co

Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports 20170926

Ivanka trump and Jared Kushner used private email accounts despite trumps rampedup rant for Hillary Clintons private emails. Now we have this story about kushner and apparently others in the white house, and i am waiting to see the outrage on the part of republican members of congress about this. And you will not see it. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in new york. President trump and republican senators are watching the clock run out to repeal obamacare by a simple majority. Rand paul, Susan Collins, john mccain leaving them in Critical Condition and the pressure is all back on Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell to either take another toxic vote or pull the plug. At some point there will be a repeal and replace. But well see whether or not that point is now or will it be shortly thereafter. But we are disappointed in certain socalled republicans. Socalled republicans . Joining me now, Nbcs Kristen Welker at the white house, carol lee and New York Times reporter. Kristen, so much on the president s plate today, and hes got the Health Care Debacle politically, at least, plus north korea, the nfl dispute, and how about puerto rico . Where do we start with the president today, and hes got a foreign visitor, the Prime Minister of spain. Where do we begin . Thats why you see the honor guard behind me, andrea, as the Prime Minister of spain gets set to meet with the president. Of course, hes focused on that, but to tick through the points you made about puerto rico. The president was criticized about not tweeting about puerto rico over the weekend and really turning his sights on the nfl players who were protesting. So in response to that starting yesterday, the white house has been very clear. Theyre taking the hurricane aftermath very seriously in puerto rico. Some of the president s top advisers, including tom bossert visited the region, and the president announcing that he will be going to puerto rico next tuesday and possibly, he says, the Virgin Islands as well. So theres that. On the domestic front, andrea, health care really taking up the focus here at the white house today. I just spoke to a senior official and said, are you ready to accept that the Health Care Effort is dead . Is this not an embarrassment for the administration . And they said, no, not yet, lets see what happens at this lunch. Of course, Vice President mike pence having his weekly lunch on capitol hill, trying to twist a few arms in the senate. Thats going to be tough, because, of course, those who oppose this latest version of the effort to repeal and replace obamacare, you have rand paul on the one hand who wants to see a more robust effort to repeal obamacare. On the other hand, you have people like Susan Collins who says this doesnt do enough to cover those with preexisting conditions. That is really taking up a locality of focus as they prepare to unveil their tax reform plan tomorrow. Dont forget about that, andrea. A lot on the president s plate. Well have a chance to ask him about that when he has a joint press conference with the Prime Minister of spain a little later, andrea. Kristen, stand by there. Carol and nick are here as well. I want to play a little of the president on the rick and bubba show in atlanta where there is the Senate Election today and that difficult situation where he is on the other side with bannon opposing the very controversial judge. Lets talk about the way the president is blaming people for health care. He went after john mccain not only with that six and a half minute facebook compilation yesterday, but this was the president yesterday. When it matters because you have a president who is actually going to sign it, they dont do it, and they pander and they grandstand. I mean, you look at mccain. What mccain has done is a tremendous slap in the face of the republican party. Thats the only reason we dont have it is because of john mccain. Blame ing it on john mccain. John mccain is in a life and death struggle right now. Hes been very open about that. Hes coming back from chemotherapy treatments to participate in senate debate. And to suggest he is not doing this out of principle is so extraordinary. Its amazing, because look, he is basically saying im principle. Im for obamacare repeal, this process is terrible. We havent had this national discussion. The bill is confusing. This is not the way the senate should work. This is purely on principle by a guy who wants to see obamacare repealed, supposedly, so i think its an unfair shot. Carol, even martin short and others at the white house could not stand withering questioning from chuck todd on Fox News Sunday about the details because they kept saying, no, preexisting conditions are covered. And Susan Collins and others have been very clear. If you read the bill, one hearing barely because of the protests and other reasons, in fact the states have extraordinary leeway over who they would cover and what it would cost. Jamming something in like this is never really successful, and weve seen this before, blaming senators for not supporting something in the way the president is doing. Also, its hard to see how thats going to get him what he wants. If youre john mccain, why would you be intimidated into changing your view on this because the president is criticizing you . Second, john mccain isnt the only senator who is holding this up. They dont have the votes, and its not just because of john mccain, but the president has chosen to make him his target. Which is, again, inexplicable. I want to play for all of you, kristen, take a look at this. This is ray moore who at last check was ahead in the polls for tonights big senate vote. This was roy moore campaigning in alabama last night. Watch closely. Nearly three months of negative ads that we couldnt answer with money because we didnt have it. Ads that were completely false. That i dont believe in the second amendment. I believe in the second amendment. I dont know if ive ever seen anything like that on the campaign trail before in a senate race. A unique campaign tactic, thats for sure, andrea, underscores, i think, the fact that he feels the need to really reach out to the base, those who want to see someone who is going to strongly defend the rights of gun owners. But what has been so striking about this, not just that moment which you point out, andrea, but the fact you have seen this very stark divide between the president the Vice President , of course, campaigning last night for Luther Strange, and steve bannon really stumping, pushing for roy moore. They said he is the outsider candidate. Bannon was pushed on this last night saying, arent you breaking with the president here . He said, no, we are doing what is ultimately best for donald trump to send roy moore, an outsider, to the senate. This really brings to light, andrea, the tension the president is under right now, between wanting to govern Mitch Mcconnell to think Luther Strange is the one who actually will get something done. And then the president s base who say they want to continue to send outsiders to washington to shake things up. Kristen, you have a very busy day. Well come back to you after the Prime Minister arrives with a photo opportunity. Turning now to the nfl and President Trumps controversial remarks which have now ignited a wave of objections, including last night. Jerry jones taking a knee in the field before the anthem. While it was being sung, both teams stood on the sidelines linking arms. This morning the president increasing pressure on the nfl. In a tweet, demanding now the league ban any protests during the anthem. Joining me now is a former wide receiver who recently retired to focus on humanitarian and social justice issues. Thank you for joining us today. I want to ask you about the president s response to the game last night and then demanding that the nfl owners create a new rule, to demand any kind of protests, sirens or otherwise, during the anthem. Again, i think we see a president who doesnt get it. Number one, i think everybody in the nfl came together in a sign of solidarity to show that you cant take away guys First Amendment right. Guys have a right to protest. Even if you dont like what theyre doing, guys have that right to protest, and i think the nfl came together to show that. Do you think that this will continue now that this issue has become so pronounced, so high profile because of the president initially . How does anyone back down from these continuing, spiraling the demonstrations, the criticism and the back and forth . Well, i think there is a distinction between the two. I think what you saw on sunday is different than the protests that youve been seeing previously. I think the solidarity, the sign of solidarity shown on sunday was actually against what President Trump was trying to accomplish. Guys were trying to come together to defend the First Amendment right. What guys have been protesting prior to is equality in america. And i dont think thats those two have been the distinction hasnt been made between the two. I think guys will continue to protest because the issues are not being heard. I think guys want to push to the forefront issues that theyve been trying to bring attention to such as bail reform, privatized prisons, juvenile lifers, police accountability. Those are the things guys were protesting prior to. I think sunday was just a show of solidarity that guys First Amendment rights cant be taken away. It was extraordinary, indeed. The president retweeted something about pat tillman and seemed to take it out of context. Marie tillman, who is the widow of pat tillman, who was killed in afghanistan we later learned from friendly fire so tragically. She tweeted pats service along with that of every man and womans service should never be politicized in a way that divides us. We are too great of a country for that. She seems to side with all of you, rejecting what has been widely criticized as divisive comments by the president. Yeah. I think everybody is against the divisiveness that has come from the rhetoric that the president is spewing. I think people want to come together to make this country a better place. And i think the president is actually trying to use the military to push his agenda. Never once was the protest about military or a flag. I think its just convenient for the president at this point in time, because hes the same guy that has made fun of and criticized those military members. But now, since its a part of his agenda, he wants to act as though hes promilitary. I also want to ask you about one of the reasons youve been inspired to work with Andrew Cummings and others in social justice work. It starts with your cousin. Tell us how your cousin was killed. I believe he was just waiting for a tow truck on the side of the road when he was shot and killed. Yes, my kicousin was on his y home from playing in a band. He had a gig that night, and on his way home, he ended up breaking down on the side of the road. Unfortunately, it cost him his life. For me thats one of the reasons i stepped away from football was to dedicate my time and my efforts to making sure that equality, its for all of us, and not just a selected few in america. Thank you for what youre doing, anquan boldin. Thank you for joining us today. We really appreciate it and for trying to bring some clarity to this debate. Thank you, and thanks for having me. Coming up, youve got mail. The New York Times is reporting that at least six of President Trumps former and current advisers, including family members, have used private email accounts for government business. More on that next on Andrea Mitchell reports on msnbc. And this wrestling ticket. Which you still owe me for. Seriously . 25 . I didnt even want to go. Ahhh, your diary. Mom says its totally natural. 25 is nothing. Abracadabra, bro. The bank of america mobile banking app. The fast, secure and simple way to send money. When food is good and clean and real, its ok to crave. And with panera catering, theres more to go around. Panera. Food as it should be. When this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. Yeah, my dad says our insurance doesnt have that. What . you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. Liberty mutual insurance. Just now you can see as the spanish Prime Minister has just walked into the west wing for his meeting with the president and other advisers. There will be a photo opportunity, and if we get something out of that, we will bring it to you. But this is a meeting which will then result in around 1 45, were told, a joint News Conference. That, of course, will be live right here on msnbc. The New York Times is reporting that at least six current and former white house advisers have occasionally used private email accounts to discuss private matters. They have been instructed to use official email for government work and to forward any messages to personal accounts. A senior aide in the Obama Administration and political analyst rich stengel, secretary of state in john kerrys state department. Ron klain, we all know about lock her up and the refrains that led to a lot of false charges by donald trump. How bad is it that donald trump and his family and aides have used private email for their personal issues . It goes past hypocrisy and goes right to hutzpah. Its amazing after the president said lock her up, lock her up. They not only used private emails but Jared Kushner had a website is godaddy to talk about his business. There is nothing more arrogant on what they did after spending an entire campaign coming down on. Sometimes they have private email accounts and sometimes its hard to separate if people you know in both world send you youve seen the explanations. But especially Jared Kushner with the implications in some reports that he was trying to send back channels to russia and others during the transition. How do they play that . Its hypocritical, as ron said. I dont know hypocrisy was a yiddish word. Its very, very bad judgment and its stupid, but it may not be illegal, as you say. If they were transferring classified information, that would be illegal. If he was ccing his government account, that also would not be illegal. The actual federal records act was amended in 2016 by president obama and congress to basically include electronic records. If you kept your electronic records, then you were not in violation of the act, only if you were trying to conceal them or destroy them is that a federal offense. But we should also point out to both of you who have been in government at very high levels that what is and what is not classified, what is classified can be in some instances that the secretary of state is about to have a meeting with soandso. Once the meeting is held, it is no longer classified, but when its in the planning stages, ron, its classified. That was a lot of cases in the clinton emails, was about prospective scheduling. Thats right, andrea. In fact, nothing Hillary Clinton sent in the email was classified at the time she sent it. Sometimes a review changed things, and the same could be said about Jared Kushners emails. I want to get past the legalities of it, just the outright brazenness of it. People send things to your private email, whatever. What happened here was very different. After running a president ial campaign focused fundamentally on the concept that Hillary Clinton was unable to be president because of private emails. Jared kushner then set up a private email account for the purpose of sending emails. This brazen act is outrageous. It is probably not illegal, but its hypocritical, its offensive, and its very discouraging to see. The emails and all these other issues, the president has been tweeting about just about everything, until yesterday, but puerto rico. With american citizens suffering so grieveously. The president said hes going next weekend, and when there is no electricity and people are in such dire shape remember, that we havent seen any statements of concern until a tweet yesterday is quite remarkable. Even that tweet, andrea, was sort of reprehensible. He talked about deaths on wall street. These are 3. 5 million u. S. Citizens. The fact hes expressed very little sympathy for them and done very little is really extraordinary. By president way, we should send the navy there and helping them, and i would say thats exactly right. Ron, you have taken on on many emergency actions for the administrations. Shouldnt there be an allpoints effort now for puerto rico . There should have been for the last week. I dont really care if donald trump tweets, i dont care if he goes there and visits. What i care is about, if, dwindling food supplies, no electricity, early curfews, no work, no economic future. This is a humanitarian crisis of the first order. Tweets is not going to solve the problem. Hes not a real estate developer. He doesnt get to pick which zip codes hes going to help or some zip codes hes going to build. They deserve the attention of their government and their president. To that point, indeed, thanks to you and thanks to rick steng. The island could be without power for months. Now there are concerns that the aftermath of Hurricane Maria could prompt a major exodus as well. He was at the san juan a

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