welcome back and thank you for spending your weekend with us. tonight he lost but will he ever accept it? >> now reporting taking us inside the west wing in the waiting weeks of the trump's era as donald trump grants his first light interview since losing, spending 40 minutes claiming he has not and backing up those claims with unfounded theories. >> donald trump will be a one-term president. a look at what is next, joe biden takes the oath in 52 days. new announcements of who will join the administration as both he and kamala harris start receiving intelligence briefings in the morning. >> you will hear from a mother and daughter team who are counting on team biden to resurvir survive their own american dreams. lockdown due to rising covid-19 infections. this is "american voices." we begin this hour with new details of the first three weeks of president trump's lame duck period as he grant the first interview losing the election which paints a clear picture of the leader off the rail. trump's desperate plea to over turn the election. the post writes, sequesters in the white house after his election defeat, rage full in a time of delirious. the article portrays a president going from disbelief to obsession to losing even what gop officials calling it a "fair" election. first, the president in his own words using his own unfounded theories today in his first interview since losing the election. it went a deep, dark rabbit hole of rage and grievance. >> well, we are trying to put the evidence in and the judges won't allow us to do it. we are trying, we have so much evidence. you probably saw wednesday of last week, we had a hearing in gettysbu gettysburg, pennsylvania. it was with highly respected people that true ly agreed. back in the real world another hot spot, wisconsin, certified its results today. 87 votes given back to biden at a cost of 34 grand per vote. this president has little wiggle room to overturn his own defeat. our own carol lee is on the ground. a amy gardner and kristine greer, she's the author of "black ethics." the president tweeting his team will file a lawsuit to contest the partial recount in wisconsin. what's their legal argument at this point? >> well, the president said that this recount was not about actually counting the votes. it was about in his words finding illegal votes that they'll bring a case on monday or tuesday. it is not clear what it means. i will read you a portion of one of his lawyers' staple tement o this. the recount revealed serious issues regarding the legality of ballots cast. we want every legal votes and only legal voting to be counted and we'll continue to uphold our promise to the american people to fight for a free and fair election. as said in your intro, this was a free and fair election. a number of experts including the president's own administration said as much. this underscores the president and his team are not giving up their fight to try to overturn these results which is a far fetch idea. he's digging in on that. republicans who are allies of the president said when the president was first making noises about requesting the recount because the president has to pay for it. this is a real long shot that you can't make up a 20,000 votes gap. the president did not do that. joe biden actually gain votes, 87 votes here. this is just another fret by the president. it is not clear what his actual lawsuit would say or if he'll indeed file one. that's what it would entails and this is something that they're trying on the hung for the illegal votes. again, no evidence of that. >> carol, how much of this is about finding a case that gets to the supreme court. >> it is a great point. to hear the president say it is all about getting spg omething stick at the supreme court. he says in his interview with fox that even though it is what he wants, it is not going to be easy. >> the problem is it is hard to get in the supreme court, i got the best supreme court advocate lawyers that want to argue the case if it gets there but they said it is hard to get a case up there. something has to get up there o otherwise what is a supreme court? >> it is worth noting that three of the nine justices have been nominated by president trump, that's part of why you hear the president saying if they're not going to take the case, what's the point of the supreme court. even before the election when that seat became open, the president says he needed to fill that seat which amy coney barrett was confirmed for. he thought the election wallas going to be decided by the supreme court. he wanted to add the nine justices there. not a lot of confidence that he's going to get there. >> amy, walk us through your reporting. there were so many incredible details in there. what is the current thinking? what are you hearing from this white house? >> president trump is plastered for weeks rooting and defiant and not conceding that he lost to joe biden. all the while asking his aide to tell him what he should do about it. his aides obliged him. he had pollsters showing that people did not believe the result. when his lawyers tried to tell him, look, we have some paths that is we can take here but it is a long shot and we have not done well in the courts so far and our opportunity diminished as time goes by. those lawyers got pushed aside because the lawyers who told the president what he wanted to hear, ellis and rudy giuliani, took over the others and willing to make the same unsubstantiated and false claims in politic tubs to hear. what's thwhere we are now. there were scathing opinions basically saying there is no evidence of fraud and no reason under the law that we should disenfranchise millions of votes in pennsylvania without any evidence to suggest why we would do such thing. >> at the same time you have president trump complaining about how the courts want proof, proof of all things. does he not understand the legal process, joyce? >> i think he understands the legal process pretty well, he has a trajectory many years as a businessman abusing the court systems to get what he wants. it is not surprising here when he speaks to the public. he makes these unsupported claims that there is widespread fraud and we all know that's untrue. when his lawyers go into court, they have that problem that there is no evidence to backup these baseless claims. these cases they brought were not about fraud which is 180 degrees what the president claims when he tried to hold onto his base and convinced them he was cheated. the reality is he lost in a fair race. >> christina, i want you to listen to what roy blunt said this morning when asked about joe biden being president-elect. take a listen. >> do you accept that joe biden is the president-elect of the united states? >> well, we are certainly moving forward as if that's what's going to happen on january 20th. the president wants to see this process play out, the president-elect has to be elected by the electors. we are working by both administrations by both as we are moving forward. >> it is striking that you have some republicans in washington that are going along with this strategy if you want to call it a strategy. what we witness this past week in the post election where a lot of states and local officials, many of them were standing up against these efforts. what does that say about the state of our democracy right now, christina? >> well, we are not out of the woods until joe biden is sworn in on january 20th. i don't think anyone should breathe a sigh of relief. there is far too many senior levels refused to acknowledge joe biden. results are in. donald trump has lost. so it should have been a definitive answer saying joe biden is president-elect. all eyes are making sure that biden and harris have a smooth transition. we are in the middle of a pandemic. so it is far time for more republicans to stand up but they are still afraid because we never had a president who goes after members of his own party. many of them seen what he did to jeff sessions and what he said about mit romney and chris christie, people are republicans. there is this fear that donald trump continues to wheel over his own party and they're moving way too slowly. >> amy, i want to pick up on christina's point there. there are two factions inside this white house. there are those who are distancing themselves from trump's legal fights and you have other loyalists who feeds this fantasy of a rigged election. for most of this presidency, the sense has been that republicans have stuck with him out of a sense of self-preservation. have the thinking shifted that they are abandoning him out of that same sense of self-preservation? >> you have two republicans who are trying to win in that january 5th, run off, it will determine who want the voters who support president trump to vote and come out to vote. the same time, president trump cries fraud in georgia with no evidence are hurting republican enthusiasm to vote on january 5th. the voting in georgia were fraudulent and through trump votes through joe biden. there is no evidence whatsoever. that kind of rhetoric is actually what puts republicans in a bind. they believe some of these attention of fraud is harming, even if they need president trump supporters. tast real tricky balanit is a re they're trying to walk here. >> thank you all. a whose who of joe biden's economic team and the task they'll take on on the moment he's sworn to office. you will meet two american business owners whose dreams are crumbling due to coronavirus. what will it take to save them? that and more ahead tonight on "american voices." on "american icvoes." ouncer] welcoo intelligent indoor grilling with the ninja foodi smart xl grill. just pick your protein, select your doneness, and let the grill monitor your food. it also turns into an air fryer. bring outdoor grilling flavors indoors with the grill that grills for you. hey rita! with 3% cash back on dining including takeout from chase freedom unlimited, you now earn even more. then this is officially a take-out week. that's a good choice rita. bon appetit. now earn 3% on dining including take-out and so much more. chase. make more of what's yours. secret stops sweat 3x more ♪yo yo yo yo yo yo start your day with secret. than ordinary antiperspirants. with secret you're unstoppable. no sweat. try it and love it or get your money back. secret. ♪ all strength, no sweat tturning downhe temperature, dad. ow. thunk, lock the doors. locking doors. thunk, dim the lights. dimming lights. 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reporter: we are starting to see take shape of a diverse cabinet secretaries and top administration officials. i will just walk you through some of the posts we had last week and into this week as we expect to see more on the economic front. pulling out names like alejandro mayorkas, the first latino to be nominated and janet yellen would be the first woman if confirm to lead the treasury department and john kerry, notable because he's the first person ever serve in a climate specific role that'll sit on the national council. what this list does and other names we are hearing could be rolled out this week shows two things. there is a premium being put on experience. a lot of the experience from this group of people tends to come from time in vice president or president-elect biden's orbit or time spent in the obama administration. that's and you ari spurring som talk about this as if this was a obama's third term. they would speak to the fact that the landscape really has changed here dealing with the economic recession and the pandemic. it shows another thing. diversity was a key thing of this group prioritizing. it is not just diversity on race or gender. though certainly that's important. it is diversity of experience. you look at the seven top communications posed all women who were announced tonight. you see black women latinos and lbgtq women and many of them are mothers. it is reflective of women's experiences across the country as this group of people is responsible for message thg administration but throughout the administration, the cabinet responsible for putting together policies that's reflective of america:. >> i wonder of the names ali just went through and some of the names that are floating around when it comes to these economic positions. >> one of the most important thing that is we know about any of the people right now, it is speculation, we need to hear from the transition team on who his appointments will be. they're crisis tests. we have to get through the covid pandemic as well as the racial justice pandemic we are in. so many intersecting pandemics there making it harder for women and people of color and lbgtq and indigenous folks, and the list goes on, to come back and revive after this pandemic. so i agree with what ali was saying. with then senator joe biden who's now president-elect. they bring diversity which is really important. they also understand that and in order for us to build back better, the promises have been made on the biden campaign, we have to do that with diverse experience and vice president, president-elect biden is guaranteeing that he'll have a diverse cabinet pick. >> i take alencia's point there. floating trial balloons to see how people's names land. part of it is upping the national profiles of some people and part of it is real concerns on the part of certain groups they want to make sure that there are issues and priorities front and center. you have the congressional hispanic congress urging president-elect biden to select governor grisham. >> we heard her name brought up in conversations around this role and think about how important the health services role will be. they have made it clear that their top priority is dealing with the pandemic. this person is going to be in charge not just apart of the conversation rolling out the vaccine and figuring out mitigation efforts. this is a virus that impacted black and brown communities across the country. it is why you are seeing the congressional caucus making the point for grisham. we have also seen other groups coming forward that this person in this role should be a person of color because it would show a recognition the way these communities have been so impacted by the virus. this is not just jockeying. this is not just happening on the hhs roles but roles across the government. there is an interesting battle starting to shape up as well of the secretary role. congressman james clyburn came out and said he wants to se see -- he wants to see the focus of the agency shifts from what he says were big farming interests to little farmers in south carolina or food stamp recipients in cleveland, ohio. we are seeing this start to play out here. all of these different groups jockeying. it is speculation season. nothing is official until it comes out. we are starting to see this cabinet take shape with a lot of these considerations seemingly put into action. >> ali, i agree with you that battle over ag is one of the most interesting dynamics we are watching. ali and alencia, thank you both. the damage that could be done. what we know of donald trump's effort to use the time he has left to dismantle the climate policy. what's behind the last minute reversal regarding mayors regarding city schools. s regarding city schools downy unstopables ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to 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secrets here when it comes to issues of climate change, president trump and president-elect biden are worlds apart. biden pledged to invest $2 trillion in clean energy. he called climate change is the number one issue facing humanity. during his four years in office, president trump rolled back more than 125 environmental safe guards. he took america out of the paris climate accord creating damage that environmental experts fear we could not reverse. now with little time left in the white house, the trump administration is still at it implementing policies that could further harm the planet. since he's doing this in the 11th hour, can biden reverse course or is the damage done? joining me now is matthew kent and alexa coe, "you will never forget your first biography." how bad has the trump presidency been for the planet? >> thank you for having me on, alicia, i appreciate that and the folks joining at home. we can all agree that government regulations are important for protecting the public. they're extremely important for protecting climate. the last minute changes from the biden administration are truly concerning in that they undermine the climate. how much damage has been done? the answer is a lot. there there are still rules in the pipeline that could do more damage and endanger biden's advantage going forward. >> tell me about those. a lot of the changes that trump gone through so far are policy changes. locking in clean air and what are protections that don't fit the bill. the trump administration attempting to lock in a change right now. the lock-in should limits for the next five years so that basically it will take biden out of the game. there are also process changes we are dealing with here. one of the rules under consideration, what changed the way the epa justifies regulations and basically say all the environmental benefits that we deal with clean air and water would not count in the analysis but coause the industr, that is extremely concerning. >> alexis, president trump tried to dismantle policy of the obama years. when we look back, will that be most apparent to us when it comes to climate change? >> i think there are a variety of issues that we'll look at. it is a strange lame duck period and that this ais a moment wher the president focuses on their legacy, building and change the narrative. we are looking at a president who has frailailed in serious crisis. we have this interesting bookend to the trump's presidency which the four years of his presidency, single term was focused on, you know, sort of undoing so much of obama's era and now we are trying to stimy of the biden administration. it is a bizarre move but it is very trump. >> very trump indeed. we keep talking about all the things that biden and harris are walking into whether it is the handling o f covid from an economic perspective, where do you think climate change falls on that list of priorities and what are some of the things they node to be doing in those first few days to begin reversing course? >> so there is obviously been a lot of -- it is important around climate. the biden/harris folks get that. they said so much in the campaign to that end. in terms of what needs to happen on day one. they need to put a stop publication order on a lot of these federal regulations that are coming through so basically stop the process from moving and say hold on, nothing gets finalized until we take another look at it. that would be a good step. the challenging part is that biden's team is going to have to undo a lot of the roll backs that had gone through or in the process before they can move forward. in a sense, biden wants to start the game out, nothing. trump wants to engineer it in a sense that biden's team started out two touchdowns already. >> looking at this list of potential day one climate executives acti actions. i can do an entire show reading you this list. alexis, this is a big issue for people voted for joe biden. how critical is this and for the threat that matthew keeps remier remier reminding me about and politically for this administration. >> the trump administration has very specific said during this time that they work on behalf of the people who vote and support for trump. what we are seeing is them working against voters who said we want the biden's policies. there are many people who think climate is first and foremost and others are arguing covid. we have to understand the over arching theme here of an out going president and not only dismantles the ability to the in coming administration but actually affect change. it is disheartening to the american public. we have to remind you a much like hubert hoover, americans are facing crisis like food and rent. this is not helpful and will define the trump's legacy. >> matthew and alexis, thank you both so much for spending some time with us tonight. >> struggling small businesses, we'll introduce you to a mother/daughter team seeing their team dwindled 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[ tribal yell ] [ yelling ] holiday shopping season is make or break for small businesses in a normal year. this year is going to be more critical than ever. in several counties in california, the busiest shopping season will be scaled back due to a rising number of infections. msnbc's correspondent scott is back with us from california. scott cohn. >> reporter: well, it is going to be strategic wiict. this is in san jose at willow glenn, you can see what they'll be dealing with. they're asking people to quarantine as they travel out of the county and limits on capacity in all kinds of retail and not just regular retail but also some of the essential retail businesses like grocery stores and pharmacies. we spoke to an owner with her boutique on this block. she had to create from scratch and online channel to sell her goods. she had to change the way she does business and the way she keeps her inventory and the stuff she sells. it seems like everyday to her is unchartered territory. >> there is a bit of relief that this holiday weekend did go well. i am hopeful that the rest of the season goes well. every decision i made is with a bit of trepidation. i am not able to relax and make business decisions like before. everything now is well, what if it is the wrong thing that i did. >> reporter: as you heard her allude to this first weekend of the holiday shopping season went pretty well for her. a lot of businesses have been done online which is something that did not exist for her at the for her at the beginning of the year. the concern now is that these restrictions now go into place and they stay in place for at least the next three weeks. that takes you right up until christmas. it's going to test things for all sorts of small businesses here on lincoln avenue and throughout the state. and, of course, across the country. alicia? >> all right. scott, thank you so much. the cdc's failed attempt to deter americans from traveling over the thanksgiving holiday could produce dire consequences. here is dr. anthony fauci this morning on "meet the press" revealing what he expects to happen in the coming weeks. >> what we expect, unfortunately, as we go for the next couple of weeks into december, that we might see a surge superimposed upon that surge that we're already in. and, you know, when i give that message, i don't want to frighten people except to say it is not too late at all for to us do something about this. because as we travel back to be careful, when we go back to where we are, to just continue to do the things that we've been talking about. >> unfortunately, that level of concern is not matched by president trump, who is too obsessed with overturning the election rather than overturning this pandemic's grip on the american people. the founder and ceo of advancing health equity joins me now, also yahoo! news medical contributor. great to see you. do you agree with dr. fauci's prediction about a surge upon a surge on the way? >> hello, alicia. thank you so much for having me. absolutely. i was working in my urgent care here in brooklyn over the last few weeks, and we had very long lines of people waiting to get tested so they could then go to small gatherings for thanksgiving, exactly what the cdc was advising against. i think in the next two weeks we'll see increase in cases, and another two weeks increase in hospitalizations and trailing after that, unfortunately, an increase in deaths. >> how critical, dr. blackstock, is this period? and how does president trump's inaction complicate things moving forward? >> the main problem, and the reason we're in this situation now, where we have millions of cases, is that we didn't have a national strategy. essentially, we need to hold on until the biden/harris administration gets into action. and so until then, essentially what we need is the collective response from americans, and we need some of our state leaders also to put in those restrict n restrictions as is happening in california. we can turn things around. we know masks, just like these, actually do work and mask mandates work. they can reduce the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths. we need people to continue to follow those public health measures that dr. fauci was talking about. even those people who were just at thanksgiving need to be tested, they also should probably be isolating themselves and avoiding other large gatherings as well. >> goldman sachs just released projections for getting back to normal. sort of forgotten what that means. they're looking at the end of second quarter or start of third quarter 2021. how does an effective vaccine play a role in that estimate? >> yeah. i think that we're seeing that probably a vaccine will be available to the general public probably by late spring. so, that definitely corresponds with some of those numbers that you just provided. so, obviously, initially we'll probably see health care workers receiving the vaccine at the end of this month and then high-risk populations, essential workers, elderly and other folk with underlying conditions in the next group, and then the general public probably in early spring, if all goes well. >> new york city is going to begin reopening schools in phases after criticism that leaders prioritized the economy over education of students. as a wife, as a mother, as a doctor, do you think the priorities have been in the right place? >> right. i have to say with the two small children in new york city public schools, this was welcomed news today. i'm glad that the mayor, the department of education are following the evidence that we know of, that this 3% threshold that was chosen previously was arbitrary. and i think that the staggered opening with young children, they are less likely to be infected and to infect others, makes a lot of sent sense. hopefully, we'll be using these similar evidence-based strategies going forward and prioritizing keeping our schools open while closing indoor dining and gyms, other places that we know are high risk for transmission of the virus. >> what would you say to a parent or educator who has found the sort of ping ponging back and forth to, let's say, not inspire confidence? >> yeah, i know. and i understand. i understand. but at the same time i think also we are learning so much about the virus from march, right? there's so much data that we know now, how it behaves in children and how schools are not to be thought of as key drivers for infection. i think we're going to probably see some of this back and forth until we figure out, you know, this virus, until we hold on to till the vaccine comes. i would ask parents and teachers for patience and that we should follow the science, prioritize keeping the schools open but also keeping children, teachers and staff safe as well. >> dr. blackstock, as always, thank you so much for your time. that is all the time i have for today. i'm aye am alicia menendez. i'll see you back here next weekend 6:00 p.m. eastern for more "american voices." after a quick break "the promised land:a conversation with barack obama." have a great night. with barack obama. have a great night did you know you can go to libertymutual.com to customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? 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