You start seeing them. The trucks come in and this comes in and that. All of a sudden, youre going to see backlash the likes of which you havent seen in many, many years. Because people arent going to take it. You know, a lot of people this is all a left movement, not a right movement. Right. But a lot of the people on the right are watching their television set, looking at kenosha and looking at chicago where they shoot people and kill people by the dozens every week. Right. Its not even believable. Trumps affinity for law and order, foreign dictators and unilateral federal power make the revelations in bob woodward and his threats of National Security all the more clear. He bragged to bob woodward about saving the saudi prince who was accused of ordering the murder of Washington Post column khashoggi and he fawned over kim jongun, calling him far beyond smart. But Donald Trumps rhetoric and admiration for men like these is even more alarming. When longtime Trump Associates like roger stone publicly advised the president to declare martial law and seize total power if he loses the election. If someone were to study the president s authority in the insurrection act and if theres widespread hell have the authority to arrest the clintons to arrest anybody else who could be proven to be involved in illegal activity. All right. We have to talk about that. Joining me is jeh johnson, and dan rather, access tv host and author of what unites us. Thank you very much for being here this morning. And jeh, i want to start with you. Because that quote from roger stone and also the clips we just heard from President Trump to me are deeply alarming. You are a former secretary of the Homeland Security. How do those two sound bites hit you . First, jonathan, thanks for having me on. Sure. Mr. Rather, nice to see you. Jonathan okay. Sounds like were having i think were having were going to fix secretary johnsons audio. So dan rather, let me come to you. As veteran journalist, and particularly when you started out your career you were covering the civil rights demonstrations. The last time we went through social and racial upheaval in this country. When you hear the president of the United States speaking like that and associates of the president like roger stone talking about the insurrection act, what do you think . Well, what i think is that it helps us give the proper framing to this president ial election. What this president ial election is about is whether the countrys going to move more in the direction of White Supremacy or move more in the direction of a multiracial, Constitutional Republic based on the freedom and the democracy. Thats the proper frame, in which we now should put this election given what the president says, what hes been doing. This long list of things. No sense going through the litany, but, you know, he knew in early february how serious the coronavirus was, but he repeatedly misled the American People. He said using an excuse and a lie he didnt want to spread panic. Well, throughout his entire presidency and particularly during this president ial Reelection Campaign hes been trying to get people panicked. Panicked about dangerous people moving into the suburban neighborhood, panic over immigration. Hes asking us to believe that when it came to the coronavirus he just didnt want to spread panic. Anybody who believes this will believe that rocks grow and were going to find out how many people are dumb enough to believe that. Id like to think that most people in the country recognize it for what it is and that is an excuse and its a lie and its outrageous and its very dangerous. Dan, im so glad you said what you said at the beginning of your answer that this election is really a choice between american democracy and White Supremacy. That is the way i wrote a column about that. This is the way i have been viewing viewing this election. This we have only two choices. My big fear and again because of your sweep of reported history you can talk more about this. My big fear is that White Supremacy will win. Am i being pessimistic or being realistic . No, i think youre being very realistic. I have this argument with people all the time about well, listen, the country would never buy this. Listen, Richard Nixon used a version of this in 1968 to beat Hubert Humphrey and he won with it. Ronald reagan used a version in 80 and 84 and he won with it and then of course we have donald trump winning in 2016. So the record of those who you have to keep White Supremacy in order for the country to maintain itself as wed like it to be, the record of those who win on it is very clear and that would be foolish to overlook the record. There is hope that this time it wont work. But donald trump has looked at the record and said, this is a Winning Strategy for nixon. It was a Winning Strategy for Ronald Reagan. Its one for any number of candidates over the years and its the reason hes following so it closely. We have secretary jeh johnson back, former secretary of Homeland Security. I want to bring you into this part of the conversation, and a that as dan rather said, i dont know if you can hear when we were getting your audio fixed, but this is an election thats a choice between american democracy and White Supremacy and i just said to dan that i think my im afraid that White Supremacy is going to win. You as a cabinet secretary and particularly of Homeland Security you have a birdseye view into this that neither of us have. From your perspective what do you think . Dan made the very point hopefully theres no echo here, which is that the various Campaign Strategy is to create panic. Though he says in talking to woodward i didnt want to create a panic when it came to covid, you know, talked about how if biden gets elected hell destroy the suburbs its on the assumption okay, were still having issues with secretary johnsons audio. Well try to reconnect with him. Mr. Rather, i want to bring this question to you. The whistleblower complaint that came out from dhs where a whistleblower is complaining that officials in the department of Homeland Security have been telling folks within the department to basically skew their findings, to skew as you can see there on the thing on the monitor there from the dhs spokesperson who is saying that the department generally does not comment on the specifics of oig referrals but we flatly deny theres any truth to the merits of mr. Murphys claim and the claim is that the department is downplaying the role of White Supremacists and downplaying the threats to the national election. How dangerous is it that we have federal departments that are you know, actively manipulating intelligence, but also manipulating information that is meant for the American People . Well, you say how dangerous is it . Its plenty dangerous and we all know this is very dangerous. This is the red lights blinking. The massaging of facts, and by the way, this is further proof that when President Trump tries to compare himself to churchill and roosevelt in trying to defend himself about hiding and keeping from the American Public how serious the coronavirus was, listen, churchill and roosevelt spent their lifetime battling people like President Trump, thats to say autocratic, deceitful people who try to keep things from the people at large. This is very dangerous. But i would like to say, jonathan, i think while its easy and very tempting to express outrage at this, we need to keep a calm demeanor and try to explain to people how dangerous it is to have people with the responsibility of getting information to the public at large to help their health are massage or manipulating that information to fit the campaign reelection for anybody. I dont care if its democrat or republican, independent, but this is dangerous. We need to have a calm demeanor and explain to people how dangerous it is to have this kind of thing happening. Having the president saying in effect sending a message down to the ranks i want you to tailor the Health Information to fit my campaign message. Your question how dangerous is it . Anybody who stops to think about that no matter what their political persuasion has to think thats very dangerous indeed. In the less than 90 seconds we have left, i want to get your reaction to finding out about the saudi prince and saying, quote, i saved his ass, president said following khashoggis murder. Quote, i was able to get congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop. Khashoggi was a colleague of mine at the Washington Post in the opinion section. He was a journalist, trying to speak truth to power, to saudi arabia. As a veteran journalist what does it say to you that the president of the United States is siding with someone accused of butchering someone in the United States writing for an american newspaper . Well, jonathan, i want to give a measured response, as difficult as it is to give a measured response because its outrageous. I think the word to describe that is despicable given the facts of what the saudi government did and the very top of the saudi regime. This idea of american president s, by the way, almost continually playing up to the saudis sooner or later this has got to stop. This takes it to the whole new low. Also, having an american president not stand up for freedom of the press is also to me very concerning. Thank you very much and well try to reconnect with jeh johnson a little bit later on in the show. Coming up, Joe Lieberman explains his support for Susan Collins. Thats next. Ns his support for n collins. Thats next. We made usaa insurance for veterans like liz and mike. An army family who is always at the ready. So when they got a little surprise. Two . They didnt panic. They got a bigger car for their soontobebigger family. After shopping around for insurance, they called usaa who helped find the right coverage for them and even some muchneeded savings. That was the easy part. Usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it easy. I want to ask senator collins who she thinks should be leading this country. She has neglected to answer that question. Let me say this. I dont think that the people of maine need my advice on whom to support for president. Last week, i was on a bus tour all over the state of maine. Not a Single Person asked me who should be our next president. Friday night senator Susan Collins refused several times to reveal who shell be voting for come november. I guess the truth is hard to reconcile with her political record of criticizing the president. While simultaneously voting with him a whopping 94 of the time during his first two years in office. This is after all the person who cast the deciding vote that put Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court for life. Polls show collins in a tight race for reelection with most polls actually showing her behind her democratic challenger, sarah gideon. But collins did recently win an endorsement from an unlikely source. A former democratic Vice President ial nominee. Im a life long democrat but i put my country first, always. Thats why im supporting Susan Collins for senate. I served with susan in the senate. Shes independent, thoughtful, and a fighter for womens issues. Susan always stands up for maine. Shes worked to create jobs and improve health care and protect maines environment. You dont get many like Susan Collins and when you do, you keep them. And joining me now is former Vice President ial nominee, Joe Lieberman. Thank you for being here this morning. Thanks, jonathan, good to be with you. So senator, please explain why endorse republican senator Susan Collins over democrat sarah gideon. Yeah, well, being a democrat is important to me and i have been a democrat since i registered when john f. Kennedy, my hero, was president. But where the problem in washington these days is people have become so loyal to party they forget other things. One of the things is friendship and Susan Collins and i worked very closely together. We were the top two members of our party on the Homeland Security committee. We got a lot done together. The second is that susan is by any independent estimate the most bipartisan person in the United States senate. In either party. And thats what washington needs today to get things done for the American People. So when people ask me about why i endorse her, i said of course i would. America needs her there. I know that Susan Collins will be what shes always been a bridge, we worked together on Homeland Security. We worked together to repeal dont ask dont tell. We did a lot of things together and shell continue that bipartisan work. But senator lieberman, one of the things that send senators and representatives to washington to do is to stand up to power and speak truth to power no matter what the president is and what party that president is from and one of the problems people are having, why senator collins is having a hard time in her reelection is that she has not stood up to this president or said anything to hold him accountable. So why do you think she deserves to be to be sent back to washington when she at least on that measure that i just mentioned shes failed . Well, jonathan, i dont have an answer, you have to ask senator collins about how she feels about President Trump. I can tell you this, im for joe biden. Very strongly for joe biden for president. But that doesnt stop me from thinking that joe biden as president will need a republican senator like collins to work with to get his program enacted. Thats interesting. You are clear. You are supporting joe biden . Absolutely. So does it not go ahead. No, i served with joe for 24 years. Hes honorable. Hes effective. He has a program. Look, President Trump has been a disrupter in some ways as president thats been positive. In a lot of ways i disagree with the result and wait. Does disrupter how has he been a disrupter in a positive sense . President trump. For instance, on some questions of Foreign Policy i disagreed with the Iran Nuclear Agreement and he took us out of the agreement and i think thats been good for our security, but in a lot of other ways the ways hes handled the pandemic or hes handled the response to the murders of africanamericans by police, thats a disruption that i think has been negative and i think joe biden is the perfect person to step in and bring some unity not only to our government, or our country and frankly to bring a kind of calm which America Needs right now to progress and have a better future. You know, we were talking in the first block about the president and his saying that he might have to invoke the insurrection act and sending in federal troops if theres socalled rioting on Election Night. How concerned are you that the president is itching for confrontation, violent confrontation on Election Night or even through transition in order to hang on to power . Well, i hate to hear that kind of conversation. I mean, the very thought that were talking about a kind of violent uprising against the result of an election in america is a threat to our history, our constitutional order. Ill give you a personal moment. In 2000 i was honored to be the Vice President ial nominate with al gore. When the Supreme Court made the bush v gore decision which i thought was unfair, it opened up a path for gore to go back to the florida Supreme Court to appeal and he said to me that night as we talked about it, we have to end this. I mean, we may have a chance in the Florida Court but it would mean that the country probably would not have a president on Inauguration Day and we cant jeopardize the future of our country. Incidentally, the fear that i have about the division of parties, exactly what leads me to support Susan Collins whos a bridge builder. President trump talks about the only threat is from the left. The threat is also from the right if he should be defeated on election day and i what i want to hear from him and everybody else is we will accept the result of the election. Thats the way we do it in america. And anybody who suggests otherwise is really unamerican. We have less than a minute left but i have to get your comments on something thats come out from the atlantic article about the president and what he had to say about members of the military and what speckly he had to say about your friend, the late senator mccain. Trump told his senior staff according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, quote, were not going to support that losers funeral and he became furious when he saw flags lowered to halfstaff. What the f are we doing that before . The guy was an fing loser the president told aides. You, john mccain and Lindsey Graham were the socalled three amigos. How does it feel to have the president of the United States talk about a statesman and a leader like john mccain but also someone who was your close friend . Well, i have find it very offensive and i dont understand it. Its so irrational, even in the sense of doing something for political reasons. Theres no political benefit in it. And ill tell you what sustains me as i read these quotes. John was alive when during the campaign in 2016. That was when then candidate trump called him a loser. John almost laughed at it because it was so crazy. He knew and everyone else knows, a great war hero and a great patriot who always put really john mccain always put america first. So his record speaks for itself and hes kind these kind of nonsensical comments i dont think really would affect john at all. You might he might get angry because he had a temper but i think its so over the edge that he probably at some level would laugh at it. Because he realized how ridiculous it is to call him a loser. Senator Joe Lieberman who has endorsed republican senator collins for president who wont say who shes going to support for president , but Joe Lieberman said hes voting for joe biden. Absolutely. Thank you so much for being on the show this morning. Thanks, jonathan. Coming up, Donald Trumps losers and suckers is still resonating. Next up, well speak with some veterans who plan to take their talents to capitol hill. When the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. With fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. Thats the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. No uh uh, no way come on, no no nnnnono only discover has no annual fee on any card. burke this . 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Hes all over the place in talking about this. But, first of all, it is actually illegal to send members of of the military in uniform to a polling place in america. Except if they intend to exercise the right to vote themselves. Thats number one. Number two, the insurrection act of 1807 is basically when all else has failed, all systems of government have failed when it comes to Public Safety and theres nothing left. The secretary of defense himself, mark esper, in june said exactly that. The insurrection act is a measure of last resort. And so when it comes to elections, when it comes to polling places, the military should have nothing to do with that and when it comes to Public Safety, first and foremost, it is up to mayors and governors and Police Chiefs to keep the peace when things get out of control. The governors have the authority to use the National Guard. Then theres something called title 32 status where the governors continue to use the National Guard but the feds pay for it, and only rarely does the National Guard come under the control of the president. When there is something in the nature of an insurrection, which is truly a measure of last resort. One thing you im glad you took us down sort of the legal and the legal basis and the facts here. But what happens if the president s right wing followers hear what he says and on Election Night take it upon themselves to go to polling places and to go to cities as we saw as has happened in portland, oregon, and kenosha, wisconsin. Is there anything to stop those folks from doing things on their own . This is where National Leadership really does count. People do listen to their president. He has the largest microphone and i find it absurd that in trying to find an excuse for not making a bigger deal of covid in march and february in his comments to bob woodward he said i didnt want to create a panic. His entire Campaign Strategy is based on trying to create a panic. On election day, in the event joe biden is elected. So theres going to be a real challenge if the president keeps sounding this alarm for state and local authorities to allow people to exercise their right to vote. I really do hope that our National Leaders if not the president do their best to tamp things down here. Particularly joe biden who i know has been talking about this. Americans have a right to vote either by mail or in person depending on what the state law permits in this covid crisis and those of us with a voice i believe have to encourage americans to exercise their right to vote in a peaceful, orderly manner consistent with our democracy. We have a minute left and i want to get your comments on this nbc news report that we have a whistleblower said top dhs officials distorted intel to match trumps statements, lied to congress. You were the department of Homeland Security secretary. What do you say or how troubling is it to you that your former colleagues are tailoring information, tailing intelligence, to match up with the what the president says and not that the intel says . Jonathan, nothing could concern me more about my old department. When it comes to election interference by the russian governments, all lights are blinking red right now on the dashboard. If we believe the intel that has gotten through and has become public, theyre attempting to hack into election infrastructure, theyre engaging in the information aimed at the American People and americans need to be aware of that. Congress needs to demand hearings on this. The americans have a right to know about this. 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It used to that be that Prior Service was a de facto requirement for public service, but yet the total number of veterans dropped below a hundred in the Congress Since 1950. Joining me now are veterans and congressional candidates pam keith, jackie gordon, and josh hicks. Pam, jackie, josh, thank you all very much for being here. Pam, since you have been here quite a few times im not going to start with you. Lets start with jackie. Jackie, tell us, who are well, where are you running and whose seat are you trying to take . Thanks, jonathan. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here with josh and pam. Im running in the new york second Congressional District and i am will be taking congressman kings seat. He has announced his retirement so its an open seat. Josh, where are you running and whose seat are you trying to tyke . Yes, sir, first, thank you for having me as well and its an honor to be here. Im running in kentucky, sixth district, running to take down incumbent andy barr. And pam, where are you running and whose seat are you trying to take . I am running in floridas 18th Congressional District. Im running against a veteran who supports everything donald trump says. Florida 18 is the seat that delivers the state of florida. And so, josh, im going to come back to you and i want you all to respond to this since youre all veterans. Hearing what the president had to say about folks like you, just personally, not as a politician, but personally how disease it feel to hear those words attributed to the president of the United States . Its disgusting, jonathan. When you do Something Like military service, you are entering into a career, a field where you feel like you were serving something larger than yourself and to hear someone spit on that, to hear someone put that down, make derogatory comments about your services is just disgusting and worse than that, jonathan. It is disgusting that Mitch Mcconnell and my opponent barr wont stand up and say, no, no, we do support our veterans and not just when its convenient or at election time but all the time when they come under attack from a commander in chief who doesnt know what service is. Jackie, is it surprising to you, are you surprised that we have a president of the United States who couldnt care less about your collective sacrifice on behalf of this country . Its disheartening, and its really concerning for me as a blue star mom. Right now, my daughter serves overseas. Shes an air force captain and im concerned about her wellbeing. He is her commander in chief and as well as her colleagues. Their safety is his responsibility and so i am truly concerned not only for my daughter, but for all of the Service Members that are out there serving. As a Battalion Commander it was my responsibility for my soldiers and Service Members safety so i know how important that is and i should hope that the commander in chief should take it as serious. So pam, im and anyone else who wants to answer after pam answers, please jump in. Why should anyone take into account your military service when trying to figure out whether to vote for you or not . Why is serving in the military something that is needed on capitol hill right now . Jonathan, i follow in my fathers footsteps who served as naval officer in the early 1950s and he said, pamela, you dont serve the country you have. You serve the country you want to have. And thats why it matters to vote for veterans, because each one of us decided to get in the game, to put ourselves at service to make this country better. The gift from our Founding Fathers was not a perfect country. It was a country that could be made more perfect by those who are willing to invest of themselves to do so and thats what our veterans do. They invest their entire life, their security, their future, their safety to making this a better and more perfect union. Josh, i read something in your bio that jumped out at me and hit me in the heart. You didnt graduate initially you didnt graduate from college and you you didnt do well as a student in college and you left and you came home and you worked with your father. Later on, as a father yourself, you didnt want your children to see to think that not going to college was something that was something that was okay. And you went and you worked and you went to school at the same time and that jumped out at me because the president of the United States in his comments about folks like yall is that you guys went into the military because you didnt have other options, because you are somehow deficient. If President Trump were right here on the set next to me, what would you say to him in reaction to what he said about you . I would say i wasnt deefficient. Service was an extension of my familys service and it was something i could show a dedication to something larger than myself and frankly it was learning that dedication that helped me come back home, work a fulltime job and go to school fulltime to provide a better life for my children because there are far more people like that take a stab at college and dont make it and live at Poverty Level wages to serve something larger than themselves than there are like Mitch Mcconnell or donald trump. I think folks like me have to have a voice in the halls of power so that folks who are so much like us get the benefit of leadership that knows where they are. Jackie, i want to put up this poll here and its jonathan, before the poll, id like to respond to that. Yes, maam, sure. Im an immigrant and my parents brought me here for more opportunity and i think im the epitome of patriotism. I decided to serve while i was in school and i continued to serve while working as an educator. I did it simultaneously with four deployments so i gave back to this country that gave so much to me and every Service Member that i served with i would turn to them as an american Service Member if i was in need of anything and trust and believe they are not losers or suckers. All right. Amen, amen. Well, forget about that poll. Pam, go ahead. Well, my story is different. I graduated from Boston College law school and one of the top 25 law schools in the country, before i commissioned in the navy. I had other options but i decided that serving the community and country was better than my bottom line. Some people have a tougher life history and they choose the military. Some People Choose it because it makes them feel like theyre giving back. But all of us, all of us have each others back and the back of our country because we love it and we believe in it. Okay. We have less than a minute left so im going to do what i did the last time, pam. Whats your website . Its pam fl for the state of florida. Com. Please give to florida. Josh, your website . Josh for congress. Com and well be the swing district that gets rid of Mitch Mcconnell. Whats your website . Jackie gordon for congress. Com. Thank you. Good luck on the campaign trail, stay safe. Thank you for being here this morning. Thank you. Coming up, 51 days until the president ial Battle Ground states that could hold the key. We have the experts who know the real story behind the latest polls. And to make sure your vote counts, be sure to visit nbc news. Counts, be sure to visit nbc news false alarm. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Ever since darrells family started using gain flings, their laundry smells more amazing than ever. 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Joy, im jonathan capehart. All eyes are on the rust belt come november. Those midwestern states, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania that were previously thought to be democratic strong holds before donald trump won them all in a historic sweep. But his surprise victory over Hillary Clinton in those states were by raising thin margins, combined less than 80,000 votes decided the outcome of the race. For both trump and biden these states are crucial to win and both tickets are campaigning aggressively there. Both mike pence and Kamala Harris visited wisconsin this week, a state Hillary Clinton notably did not visit in 2016. And in a recent visit to michigan trump even sounded more desperate than usual, his pleas replete with characteristic lies. After the last Administration Nearly killed the u. S. Auto industry i saved the u. S. Auto industry. We brought you a lot of car plants, michigan. We brought you a lot of car plants, you know that, right . On november 3rd, michigan, you better vote for me. I got you so many damn car plants. Now, for what its worth it was actually the Obama Biden Administration that famously bailed out the auto industry, which is perhaps why polls show trump in trouble. Right now almost all polls show biden leading in those key Battle Ground states, but when the margin of error is accounted for, the lead is not much more than a statistical tie. Joining me now are rachel bittekoffer, john nichols, National Affairs correspondent for the nation, and author of the fight for the soul of the democratic party. Connie schultz, fuel letser prize winning journalist and professor in residence at kent state. Ken coleman Senior Reporter from the michigan advance. And lynn hayes freelan. Thank you all very much for being here. Ive been looking forward to this segment all weekend. Rachel, i will start with you because the intro was all about these polls in the Battle Ground states and how once you apply the margin of error its a statistical tie. You are an election forecaster. When you are looking at polls like that, what do you see . Yeah, i mean, these are polls that are very similar to the last cycle, except for this time they are accounting for weighting for noncollege educated voters, so theyre really not comparable, right . They are taking an adjustment that was not made last time, the people need to contextually understand and they are also really dealing there is an issue last cycle where we had atypical numbers of undecided and thirdparty voting that we arent seeing in this cycle, too. So we have a much more settled electoral coming down the final stretch, but that said its ultimately always going to come down to the percent of republicans that show up versus the percent of democrats and if democrats dont have a good turnout they would be in trouble. I want to go to michigan. Ken, you are there in michigan and i was struck by that poll we were just talking about where biden is up plus seven from your Vantage Point in michigan. Does that ring true to you . I think the race is going to tighten. I do think the polls the polls that ive seen are essentially right. Jonathan, what its going to do is come down to turnout. If democrats come out the way they voted for president obama in 08 and in 12, i think biden has a strong chance of winning michigan. If they dont, its going to be a very close race. Ken, to that point, because one data point that blows my mind from 2016 is that 50,000, 50 thousand fewer people went to the polls in 2016 compared to 2012. From where you sit do you think turnout will bump back up to 2012 levels right now . I think so. I think theres an excitement about this race that we didnt necessarily see in 16. There is a lot of dissatisfaction about donald trump in michigan and its just not in urban areas, its in outlying counties like oakland and macomb on the eastern side of the state and kent county on the western side of the state. I think theres sufficient excitement. Now, the question becomes the mailin process. Right. The fact that covid19 will have, thats an unknown we dont know right now. Lynn, you are in pennsylvania. In that poll biden is up plus 3. Pennsylvania was that state that trump won that had everyone gasping for air because that was supposed to be the ultimate fire wall. From where you sit right now, does that plus 3 make sense to you . I think it does make sense, but i think whats going to be interesting in this race is the mailin ballot. I mean, right now everyone is talking about this thing called the red mirage. 90 of donald Trump Supporters are expected to vote in person, which is going to give one indication on Election Night, but 64 of the democrats are expected to vote by mailin ballot. So could it give one impression on Election Night, but, in fact, an all together different impression come the day or the week after the election . So thats what everyone is talking about and, in fact, the president even tweeted just last night about attacking the governor, his position on mailin ballots and the Lieutenant Governor pushed right back. So far we havent heard from Governor Wolf on that tweet from the president yesterday. Lets go to wisconsin. John, in that poll wisconsin was plus 5 biden. In wisconsin from where you sit right now, does that does that make sense . It does make sense. It fits with four or five polls we have had recently that have shown it four, five, six points difference, almost always in that range. Frankly, its been around there for quite a long time. So the bottom line is that wisconsin is a highly competitive state, it remains so, but its fair to say that biden probably has a little bit of an advantage right now. The challenge, of course, is going to be how easy it is to vote and particularly on these absentee ballot issues which weve got a big fight going on right now. Connie, you are at a disadvantage because i dont have any poll numbers for you, but you are there in ohio. How is the race looking from your Vantage Point in ohio . Well, jonathan, fortunately i do have some poll numbers. Oh, good. They are reflecting very similar, it is neck and neck at this point. Six months ago i would not have been as optimistic that the state could flip for biden, now i am, in part because of the polls. For me when i look out here and whats going to matter is workers, workers, workers, not just male or white workers. The majority of workers we are talking about are people of color and they are women. He promised, he vowed, remember that pledge about auto plants, he stood in lordstown and told the workers at the gm plant dont sell your homes, the jobs are coming back. That plant closed, 3,000 jobs were lost. Recently he went after good year workers and encouraged the country to boycott good year tires. The other they think i keep thinking about is, you know, im married to u. S. Senator sherry brown and i want to reveal that because i want to explain why i said in focus groups with trump voters all through 2018 during sherrys ultimately successful reelection the men were lost to us, the women towards the end started peeling off, their two issues were family separations and health care. Health care before covid. As i keep saying every chance i get you cannot undie people and we will have lost clearly more than 200,000 by election day and this issue is going to be the make or break issue for donald trump and he cant recover. There is one of the reasons why i was excited about this poll and especially having lynn and ken being a part of this panel is because when we talk about the industrial midwest, we talk about the rust belt, we talk about working class voters, people tend to forget that there are black people in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania and that they, too, are working class voters. Im showing you this New York Times piece here, stop pretending black midwesterners dont exist and it says its not just the White Working Class that is suffering, it is the working class, period. We cant solve the problem if we refuse to see who those workers actually are. By 2032 according to the Economic Policy institute the american working class will be made up mostly of people of color, including black workers. Ken, im going to come to you because in michigan there is there is detroit, and, you know, you are a journalist. Does it bother you that sometimes a lot of times the National Conversation when it talks about the midwestern voter erases black voters and black workers . Im always concerned about it. Im happy to write for a news outlet am i advance that values diversity within our reporting and within our staff, but, yeah, i mean, you can go across the state in michigan and see africanamericans and people of other ethnicities across the state. We make up africanamericans about 15 of michigans population, but all too few times do you see that reflected a lot in polling, national polling. Sometimes even statewide polling. Lynn, let me get you in on this as well. Being in pennsylvania. You know, its kind of interesting because people tend to focus on pittsburgh and philadelphia and then there is the rest of the state, which tends to be largely white. It is not very diverse. But recently the naacp has launched an effort to do voter registration, to reach out specifically to black and brown people in that middle part of the state because they feel like that was a large part of the disenfranchised voter that didnt come out four years ago. So the goal is to reach out to them, make sure theyre registered and encourage them to get to the polls. John, let me show you this poll that we have here among wisconsin and minnesota voters and you will see a range of things, race relations, unifying america, handling protests, Violent Crime and law and order. When it comes to Violent Crime and law and order, former Vice President biden an President Trump are pretty close there. How as we go get closer to election day, how likely is it that those numbers will flip when it comes to Violent Crime and law and order, especially when you have the president of the United States fanning the flames of both fear of both of those things . Look, the president is trying very, very hard to exploit every angle he can and so he has pushed the law and order issue very, very that are. He has brutal ads up in wisconsin right now that talk about what happened this kenosha late last month, the killing or, im sorry, the killing of two protesters, the shooting seven times of jacob blake in the back by a police officer, instead of trying to calm circumstances trump has tried at every turn again to exploit and basically try to drive wedges there. But whats important to understand is that the polling we are looking at now, especially some polling that just came out in the last few days, comes after kenosha, after trump has thrown everything he can into it. So im not sure, jonathan, that those numbers are going to flip. I think that in reality what were seeing is the playout as it is. One final thing i would put in the mix, though, and i think this is important, were talking about africanamerican voters, were talking about voters in not just our big cities but rural areas. In wisconsin our state Supreme Court halted the mailing of absentee ballots on thursday. We had a Million People who had requested absentee ballots and thats really critical to this whole thing because when we talk about those voting, the early absentee ballots, thats votes locked in. So the polling youre seeing now is accurate but will it be accurate if we mess up the absentee voting pattern and folks have to wait longer, if there are all the complexities to it . So making predictions at this point is of course rooted in polling but it must also be rooted in the very complex request he in wisconsin and i think a number of other states of whether we have a free and fair and functional election. You know, connie, i was just reminded of a report from syk the abc affiliate there in columbus, ohio, about President Trump pulling his ads, the ad buy, in ohio. Quote, if donald trump is pulling tv from ohio because he thinks hes got it here or cant win here i think that would be a mistake said david pepper. Ohio right now is an arm wrestling match. That matches what you were saying in your previous answer. What im asking you about this, though, is if the president is pulling his ad buy from ohio, do you think that means that, as you said, the state actually is going to flip . Well, it certainly shows a lack of confidence on the part of the trump campaign, i think, right now. That was a 5 million ad buy that they pulled. I keep i was listening as you were all talking about the violent images that donald trump is trying to use to how do i say this . We are already terrified in this country. Covid has done that to millions of americans since march. Were tired of being scared. I dont think hes going to gain from this law and order. First of all, the mess that he keeps talking about is the mess that is his to deal with. He is the reason the only positive for black lives matter out of this is trump because of his policies we are finally at a place where it has been prioritized across the country and it is a movement and it is going to keep gaining steam and the thing is were really tired of him pretending that black people are the problem. The problem part of it, though, and the discussion is we keep talking about the black communities as if it were separate from those of us who are white. This is my community, too. These are my kids getting shot, too. The more we think about america as opposed to these little silos of communities, the more dangerous it is for donald trump in his reelection bid to keep [ inaudible ]. Connie is not even a preacher but she just took you took me to church there with that answer. Rachel, i want to end the conversation in less than a minute that we have left and put the question to you that i put to dan rather and secretary jeh johnson earlier in the show. To me it seems like this election is going to be a choice between american democracy and White Supremacy. You are the election forecaster, you also agree that this is going to be about turnout. So from your perspective right now which one is going to win . Its going to be a matter of which ballots get counted ultimately, jonathan, and thats going to be a major theme of this forecast. Update thats going to be released on tuesday at 6 00 a. M. Where i go through my forecast update, which is some revised modeling with my new coauthor Samuel Epstein which still shows an overwhelming advantage for biden, for democrats all across the country, but we have already seen an 8 rejection rate of africanamerican ballots in North Carolina compared to a 3 or 1 rate for white ballots. We really cant model that and i talk about how nate silvers model, the economists model, all of these models are measuring some version of public sentiment or Voter Sentiment or voter turnout, right . And its not theyre not designed to measure can these ballots reach an electoral board and get counted accurately and fairly. So those are things that people need to keep in mind and all the Party Organizations really need to follow up with these abs tease, especially, that are filed early that dont get counted and let voters know, hey, your vote is not yet counted. 6 00 a. M. Tuesday, your next election forecast comes out. If you know who rachel is, you better crash that website on tuesday because shes got an excellent track record. Rachel, john, ken, lynn, thank you very much for being here this morning. Thank you. Connie schultz will join us again later in the show. Coming up, a group of fairytale actors are ready to storm wisconsin to support badger state democrats. N to supt badger state democrats byebye, boys. Have fun storming the castle. Think it will work . It would take a miracle. Byebye. From fidelity. Now you can trade stocks and etfs for any amount you choose instead of buying by the share. All with no commissions. Stocks by the slice from fidelity. Get your slice today. An army family who is always at the ready. So when they got a little surprise. Two . They didnt panic. They got a bigger car for their soontobebigger family. After shopping around for insurance, they called usaa who helped find the right coverage for them and even some muchneeded savings. That was the easy part. 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Com right now and see how much you can save. He can farce. Farce. Farce. Alas. Probably he means no harm. He is very short on charm. You have a great gift for rhyme. Yes. Yes. Some of the time. Enough of that. Are there rocks ahead . If there are, we will be dead. No more rhymes now. I mean it. The cast of the 1987 classic film Princess Bride will virtually set sail tonight with a live stream script reading for joe biden. Princess bride super fan senator ted cruz didnt appear too thrilled as he expressed his sadness that his Favorite Movie was supporting the democratic party, quoting it as, quote, the ultimate the sound of ultimate suffering. I cant believe i messed up the classic line from the movie. One of the stars carrie ellis tweeted, ted cruz, if you only left the fire swamp you could join us. Well, joining me now is the director of the Princess Bride rob reiner and wesley carrie ellis who played wesley in the film. Thank you for being here. Our pleasure. So, rob, you are here all the time, but carrie is not here all the time so im going to start with him. Why is it important to you to do this for the Wisconsin Democratic party . Well, i have a very good friend who is from wisconsin and i learned from her that wisconsin is a key Battle Ground state in this election and i also learned that before the pandemic wisconsin led the nation in farm bankruptcies, one in seven people have lost their jobs and with it their health insurance, income inequality is at the highest since the Great Depression and suicide rates are up by 40 . 12 of people and 20 of kids in wisconsin are food insecure. That is all a result of President Trump and this administration. And, rob, i mean, we all everyone watching this show knows how much you care about this country and care about the party and the direction of the country, but why do you think its important that this be done for the Wisconsin Democratic party . Well, this election is going to come down to six or eight states, as you know, wisconsin being one of them. Key Battle Ground state and we have to win it. We lost it last time and we have to win it this time. You know, jonathan, you were talking earlier and youve been talking throughout the show about this is a fight for democracy versus White Supremacy. Youve been saying this over and over. And thats true. I believe that is 100 true. The problem we have now is that when we had this civil war back in the 1860s, we had Abraham Lincoln in the white house. Now weve got Jefferson Davis in the white house and so its very scary the idea that we are engaging in this modern day civil war and we have the president who now controls the levers of government. Thats my fear. Were going to get turnout. Nout just the volume of votes were going to get between 5 and 7 million more votes, i believe than trump but the problem is, he controls all the levers of government he is perverted all of the agents, whether its the jus at this time department, state department, Homeland Security, even our health departments, to the point where im frightened he is going to try to do anything to pervert this election he stole it last time with the help of the russians. But this time, he is doing it on steroids because he has he controlled the government. So thats my fear. We have this is all hands on deck from now until election day. Because the democracy depends on it and whether or not we sustain the 244 years of selfrule that we have started during the birth of our country. There couldnt be more at stake than whats here at this election. I know i sound hyperbolic. Not to me. I believec. Everything im saying here is true. I want to read a quote from you thats in a Statement Released by through the wisconsin state party. You said, donald trump has abdicated hisas duties. He failed to keep the country safe from covid19 and as a result, he is responsible for the devastating chaos, violence and economic collapse that we are now experiencing. You are an actor. Theres some folks who think actors should stay on the small screen or stay on the big screen and stay out of other stuff. Why is it or was it important for you or is it important to you to be vocal about where things are in the country andl vocal in your opposition to the current president . Yeah. First of all, i dont consider myself an actor. Im a a human being first and a actor happens to be my profession. As a human being, i care about my family. I have a 13yearold daughter. And i care about whats going to happen to her. And i feel, as rob says, that if we allow this president to get back into office for four more years, you can see honestly the beginning of the end of this great democracy. Theres no question as rob says he is going to create a constitutional crisis if he doesnt win. C im very concerned for the future, for my family. Yeah, its all hands on deck as rob says. Rob, its all hands on deck. But there are a lot of people whose hands are they are shaky. They are actually trying to figure out whether theyre going to vote for the incumbent or vote for joe biden. What would you say to those folks who either say theyre independent or say theyre not quite sure ifor theyre going t vote for trump for reelection . To me, its astounding that you cant make that decision. There couldnt be a greater contrast between these two men. Joe biden is a solid citizen. He doesnt c lie to people. He is compassionate. He has empathy. He has experience. He has respect around the world. Donaldrl trump has none of thos things. You cant have a greater disparity between two human beings. I would say to people, if you have trouble making up your mind, i dont know what to say to you, because the contrast couldnt be more stark. Co all you have to do is say, look at where we are, by election day, theres going to be close to 250,000 to 300,000 americans dead, hundreds of thousands of those did not have to be dead. If we had joe biden in there, hundreds of thousands less woul be dead because he had a very specific National Plan on how to save those lives. This is gave up his responsibility. Cary, you have the last word. What would you say to the undecided voter right now . Well, i heard your previous guest talk about the Supreme Court possibly trying to interfere in wisconsin now by making people redo their absentee ballots. This is a clear case of Voter Suppression and trying to create confusion at the ballot. I would say to all the people in wisconsin who are not sure about whats going on, make sure that you are registered to vote. Make sure you reregister if the Supreme Court does try to invalidate those ballots. The last time there was apathy in the vote. This time we need to make sure we put an end to the chaos and corruption. Im sure there are wisconsin voters who say, as you wish. With that, thank you very much. Great to see you, thank you both for being here. Thank you. Thank you so much. Next up, a fact check on the trump sunday morning show players. Keep it right here. Tr facing leaks takes strength, so heres to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable, longlasting protection. Because your strength is supported by ours. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. Tonight, our hearts are with all of the communities in the west battling devastating wildfires. Im going there the day after tomorrow. Im staying in your state tonight, but im going to california. 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The president should have been straightforward. Go back to february and march. Were in the fog of war from the china virus. There are competing views as to whether this is simply the flu or whether this is very serious. What do you mean competing views . You are talking about Something Else. Nancy pelosi dancing with scarves saying, come on down. You had de blasio and cuomo saying, come on down. Why wasnt the president straightforward . He was. No, he wasnt. Trumps surrogates are doing cleanup as the fallout continues. The revolution that trump downplayed the risk of covid to the American People. Back with me Connie Schultz and elise jordan and erin haines. We just heard Peter Navarro with jake tapper. Is there any way to look at this and say we have done better than other countries . I will just tell you right now, if democrats were in charge, if joe biden had his way, look at his statements in january when he said the president was being xenophobic. He is not the president. He was running for president and had the same information. While democrats are trying to impeach this president , this president was taking decisive action. I think its disgusting to take a crisis in our country and try and lay it at the feet of the president. He had the same data. He didnt. Not according to the audio from bob woodward. Elise, i will come to you, because you are not still in the republican party. Or are you . But you just no. I left around the time that roy moore was given 300 grand. I wanted to come to you first in that, these are folks who remain in the republican party. Are they doing what theyre doing simply because they have to defend the president . Or do they actually believe the words that are coming out of their mouths . Right now, you see republicans upholding the power structure. They have cast their lot. They had determined that they are going fullfledged with trump. She wants to see the rnc succeed in down ballot races and in the president ial. They have cast their lot. You can see how facts change. You can see no matter what really happens. It really reminds me a lot of when we were stuck defending the iraq war during some of the worst times. I think its unfortunate i was part of it, part of the bush administration. We could have levelled more with the American Public about what the ground reality was. So i really just have very bad deja vu to those days and have watched that just lock down on the party, winning at all cost, no matter the facts. Erin, are these efforts to divert attention away from the president and divert attention from what we heard with our own ears, the president of the United States speaking very candidly and lucidly about the danger of coronavirus in february, now theyre trying to distract from that, Peter Navarro and the rnc chairwoman, will they succeed . I think that remains an open question. 51 days until the election. I think what we know is to your point. Peter talked about the fog of war. The president didnt sound foggy when he was talking to bob woodward about what his understanding was of the threat of coronavirus privately. Yet, we know what his statements were publically. We talked about characterizing this as him downplaying the threat of the virus. Really, misleading i think is probably the appropriate word for what he was doing with the American People given what he said to bob woodward at that time. We are seeing these surrogates out here echoing the president s message. Peter navarro not really answering jake tapper there this morning. I think at the end of the day, because we do have the president in his own words and his own voice in those recordings talking to bob woodward, thats a powerful counterweight to a lot of voters affected by this pandemic, whether they get sick or not. Connie, i love what you said earlier when we were talking about voters in the midwest. You were talking about voters in ohio and focus groups you got to sit in on and saw that women were peeling away from the president because of family separation at the border and health care. Hearing the president of the United States say what he said to bob woodward, what impact do you think that has on those voters you saw and voters in ohio in general . Well, i think voters in ohio are no different from voters around the country in this way. We are a nation of mourners. We are getting close to 200,000 who have died of covid. This is not counting now the hundreds of thousands of other people who died of Something Else but because of covid restrictions their family members also could not be with them at the end of life. My mom is a hospice home care worker. I have written about death and dying for more than two decades. This nation is full of people who are having to listen to these spokes people for the president in this most heartless way pretend this isnt happening. We will live with the ramifications of this for years because in so many instances if you are not directly grieving the loss of someone during this time, chances are very good at this point you know somebody who is. The president , we are used to his lying. Its watching republicans gather around and not speak out against this. In fact, try to throw it off to anyone else. There is one president in this country. Joe biden in january was not the president of the United States. Nancy pelosi was not the president of the United States. We had one. He knew how dangerous this was. And he pretended it wasnt. People died. That, i think, is a message i hate to say its a message. This is the reality. This is what happened. I think joe biden needs to address this. Because they understand grief. They understand loss. Anybody who has lost somebody before covid who had i stood at my mother and fathers bedside holding their hands when each died. To not be there for your family at the end, it wears on you. Its a weight on people. I am hearing from people every day who feel so guilty they couldnt be there. Connie, as is always your way, you bring these conversations that are way up here and involved in numbers and theory and bring it to the human level. We see that theres an abc poll that talks about where the American People are on trumps handling of the pandemic. You see there, 65 disapprove of his handling of the pandemic. As we know, all the polls are going state polls and national polls, we are ready for them to tighten and to shrink. Do you think if the president s disapproval rating in terms of his handling of the pandemic stays that high that it then becomes a very an issue that the president cannot surmount going ahead . Well, again, i think that that is an open question. The pandemic is absolutely on the ballot for voters, particularly the women voters that im speaking to headed into this election who have been disproportionally impacted by and are responding to coronavirus. Both from a Public Health perspective and an economic perspective. We know that women are the essential workers. Women are the caregivers of the children who are either attempting to return to school, either virtually or in person, or of elders who have been disproportionally affected and dying in these nursing homes. This pandemic is just in sharp relief every day for people whether they get sick, whether they die or whether they know someone or not. This is Touching Every Single Person. So many of those people are voters who will have this on their minds. Early voting is underway. Its going to start here in pennsylvania where i am on monday. I dont think that the voters are letting either candidate, whether its this incumbent president or joe biden. Elise, i will give you the last word. Will the handling of the pandemic really impact voters in terms of whether or not especially those who say they are on the fence, whether they vote for the incumbent or vote for joe biden . This has shown up in numerous polls as the pandemic and the handling of coronavirus supersedes Economic Issues now just because Economic Issues are so tied into the pandemic. Whereas, prepandemic, donald trump was benefitting from a Strong Economy and had the headwinds of a Strong Economy propelling him probably to reelection, thats changed in the aftermath of this incredible human and economic disaster. While donald trump might keep 35 , he might keep that base approving of how he is handling the pandemic, other americans just arent buying it. We are done with this block. But were coming right back. Up next, who won the week . Verizon knows how to build unlimited right. Start with americas most awarded network. Im on my phone 24 7. 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She worked with some of the stars in the league including ohios lebron james, im sorry, hell always be ours, to give every court black lives matter pointed. Shes also in the effort to try to couse some of the arena frs voting sites in november and theres a wonderful piece interview with her the New York Times print edition this morning and as soon as i saw her, i thought shes the won. Shes the winner of the week because Everybody Wins with michelle roberts. All right. That, that is, that is an exceptional choice. Exceptional. I think you might be wrong. Aaron. Who won the week . I mean, that was a commendable nomination, jonathan b, but i mean who are rereally talking about if not talking about 22yearold naomi osaka, tennis royalty, who won obviously the u. S. Open last night, but she really had already won. Seven, you know, masks. Seven matches. Tamir rice, breonna taylor, trayvon martin. George floyd. Elijah mcclain. She was wearing what i like to call personal protest equipment, to really raise awareness and use her platform to you know, challenge people. Not only to think as she said last night about the message she was trying to send, but the message that they received by her sending it and i just think there couldnt be a better choice for this weeks winner. Both on and off the court. All right. Naomi osaka, another excellent choice. Excellent choice. But youre wrong. Elise. Elise. Who won the week . Well, and i salute naomi osakas awesome mask game and good for her. Huge tennis fan. Always love to see woman at the top of her game, but i have to say that Sergeant Major Thomas Patrick payne, who was award ed the medal of honor this week a at the white house for saving over 70 isis hostages in Northern Iraq in 2015, i have to say a that he won the week. He was on his 17th deployment, which shows the ongoing nature of these wars that the country has just completely turned our attention from as we deal with our domestic chaos, but someone like Sergeant Major payne is a true who row and is doing good in the name of america around the world and i salute his well received honor and his heroism, saving lives that would have perished to isis. Thats an excellent choice and im not going to say youre wrong like i did for naomi and for michelle roberts, but i think you have not picked the right choice. The person who, oh, good, i thought i was going to have to go old school and play it in the mic microphone. Minot, north dakota, City Council Member evans. If youre not aware, and i think a lot of people in this room are not and have come here because this is a gay issue, i am proudly the first openly elected lesbian in north dakota. So that is why im not paying any heed to your crap. I am, we the people, im the people, i live in minot. I have a taxpayer. I am a person. I get to see myself represented on that flag pole just as much the people who got the juneteenth flag last month, as much the p. O. W. M. I. A. S will get this month. Every Single Person is entitled to see themselves represented. We are not some group of people who live in San Francisco or seattle. We are here. Go ahead, carrie evans, the whole point there a someone was making a big issue, a pride flag was flying on City Property and i think she spoke for a lot of people in that instance, lgbtq people in minot, north dakota, but for all people who feel marginalized or not represented by their communities and reminding people who are motivated by animous or hate, that hey, we are in the community, we are paying taxes and we are done being disrespected. So, with that, we got to go. Thank you very much, connie, elise and erin. Thank you very much for spending sunday with me. And that is our show today. Before we go, we have a special programming note. 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A r very good day to all of you from msnbc World Headquarters here in new york. Were approaching high noon here in the east. 9 00 a. M. In the west. Welcome to weekends with alex whit. New numbers are out with a big week to come on the campaign trial. Whos got the edge and where, ahead. A new threat for crews fighting fires in the west. Why a bad situation may get worse. Sheri sheriffs deputies shot in an ambush. The search for the gunman in southern california. Plus, its first nfl sunday since the coronavirus pandemic. Well take a look at how different its going to be. But we begin this hour with the race to the white house just 51 days now until the election and next hour, the president will be r participate ng a round table with latino supporters in las vegas. This is on the heels of a rally in nevada last night where the president took aim at his democratic opponent. Hes a pathetic human being to let that happen. Where they put an ad like that where im standing over graves then he said this. They put an ad like that pup. Theyre a disgrace, but you know the good part . Now, i can be really vicious. I can be really vicious. And well start by saying, were going to start by saying that the democrats are trying to rig this election because its the only way theyre going
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