Im not running race thats been shaped by a bunch of consultants. Im not offering a bunch of proposals carefully designed not to offend big donors. I passed that stop sign a long time ago. Good morning, and welcome to a. M. Joy. I am here in beautiful manchester, hn hb. We are just 48 short hours from the first in the nation primary. Those comments by Elizabeth Warren which appear to be directed at Pete Buttigieg. Underscore the frustration many Democratic Women are feeling at the dismissal of warren and other candidates. I mean, she does have a point. When you look at the field of candidates who took to the stage in New Hampshire this week, its really hard to argue that the two strongest candidates representing the moderate and the progressive wings of the party werent the two women who shared the New York Times endorsement for weird. Senators warren and Amy Klobuchar klobuchar. Why is it the females with plans are not gaining as much traction as their male counterparts . A cnn poll leading up to the debate underscores the point. All three women candidates in the race, are polling below 10 among New Hampshire voters. Were learning from the boston globe and a tracking poll that klobuchar is the only female candidate who benefitted with a threepoint bump from friday nights debate. And that apparent excitement helped her campaign raise 2. 5 million since the debate. No word from the Warren Campaign of any fundraising updates. With New Hampshire almost in the rearview mirror, what does it mean as democrats head into nevada and South Carolina at the end of the month . Have democrats at large decided that they tried a woman candidate and it didnt work. Or is gender not a factor in how democratic voters are choosing their candidate . Joining me is james pendle, kimberly atkins, and beth, senior politics editor. Thank you for being here. James, i want to start with you. It does seem like women are doing well in temples of presenting plans, branding themselves as can do candidates but not doing well in the polls. What can we read into that in New Hampshire . Clearly Amy Klobuchar is on the up swing. When it comes to Elizabeth Warren, her fall, remember, she had a huge rise. She was leading in iowa and New Hampshire for about two months in the fall. Its not like it didnt happen. Her fall has been confounding. A lot of people want to tie it to the medicare for all. What is interesting to me, all week i have been looking at this question of gender. Because in New Hampshire more than any other state probably in the country, it has a tradition of electing women to office. It was the first state in United States history that had sent a full female delegation to washington. The senior senator here was the First American to serve as a female and a governor in a senate. And so ive been curious where is gender going to play . I talk to a lot of women here who really want a woman nominee. And they were confused about where exactly they should go. Warren was not that obvious choice in the end in this campaign. And i think that probably is a factor, and if i dont want to play a game, but it is a factor. And if Amy Klobuchar had clarity out of iowa, she was clearly the story or clearly out of the race because she wasnt, warren, i think would be doing better here. The thinking a lot of people have, and im going to cut three for our producers. This is what a lot of women hear when they hear men talking about women candidates in general. This is talk on morning joe on friday. Take a listen. Is it her or is it theres a certain strideness, do we want to invite her into our bedrooms and living rooms . I think its the same issue as bernie. I think its a likability issue. I think we have to be careful i think an amazing woman would be a great anecdote to johns point earlier, a different definition of strength. Strength is strength. But in a different way. But i dont think Elizabeth Warrens problem has been that hes a woman. The likable thing. Right . First, i dont get it. She actually reminds me of soccer moms. She seems likable to me. Thats the thing thats hung on her. Its a gendered critique. Bernie sanders and if you compare them, which one is more invite them to dinner, i dont know, but im not sure that she loses that fight. But she is losing the fight to being the lead in the progressive wing. The messages is hurting her. If you talk to democrats, they say they like Elizabeth Warren. Shes not unlikable. That doesnt bear out when you speak to voters or in the polling. Some of them say i like her a lot. Im not sure shes my first choice. Thats different. What is happening is just you have a structured race. And she has to pull from other people. So far the other candidates she might pull from, a joe biden is getting the votes. If they are pulled, theyre polled by Pete Buttigieg. We also have to talk about New Hampshire and iowa are a tiny part of the electorate. Right now the name of the game is having enough money to stay in the race. A month from now this race will look different moving to super tuesday. Thats why the Amy Klobuchar fundraising number was so important. Joe biden can only go up. The big question is what happens to warrens campaign. And do they have enough money to keep going. Joan walsh wrote a piece about the race of warren. She says from the moment Cable Networks switched from her caucus night rally speech to bidens, warren has been virtually erased as the fight for first place continues to thursday, ive watched cable mention warren in passing if at all. Lawrence odonnell was one exception featuring an interview with her. And thursday she was hosted by chris hayes. Advertising. Whenever i go to a city in these elections, i watch a lot of local news. And there is a lot of advertising even from gabbert. I didnt see a lot for Elizabeth Warren. Shes not getting the free media out of cable news coverage, and shes not getting paid media, a lot of it, at least from what i saw in New Hampshire. Is this a media problem as much as a messaging problem . What i think about when im in New Hampshire, in 2008 when barack obama came out of iowa and seemed to be steam rolling to the nomination. In New Hampshire there was a debate he said hillary, youre likable enough. And two days later she shocked everyone and beat him in New Hampshire and set off a cage match to the end. It was one for the history books. The issue of women and likability as played out here in prominent ways. Were seeing it in New Hampshire on the question that donny brought up that you addressed. So heres the thing. Is it an issue of likability or just an issue in New Hampshire and everywhere else of people being terrified to nominate the wrong candidate . Everyone wants to beat donald trump. Theyre looking at a muddled factor. Elizabeth warren, there is a fear that because Hillary Clinton did not beat President Trump even though everyone expected her to, was it a factor of gender . Is it not the best idea to nominate a woman since a woman did not beat him last time . I think thats one of the things people are trying to consider when theyre looking at the large field. Everyone is being a pundit. Yes. Im glad you mentioned the 2008 race nature that talked about losing how you are able to win. Hillary clinton had a moment where she teared up. The day before the primary. Shes likable. Acting in a womanly way. But Barack Obamas yes we can speech was his losing speech in New Hampshire. It ended up rocketing him forward. Yes, we can became the de facto theme of the campaign. It could be that one of the people who also ran in New Hampshire can almost lose to win. Thats right. And thats what were saying. The role that particularly the role that women can play in this state, and the crying thing, from hillary. It was about gender. It was about how do you do this every day as a woman . How do you get up as a woman . It was a huge moment for her. Obviously led to the major comeback. One thing thats interesting about the comebacks is Elizabeth Warren is set up for one. Shes set up for one here. But shes not even talking about that. And shes not out there earning and nor is joe biden. We have to talk about joe biden. Hes in an awkward position. Hes polling third or fourth and needs to win before that, i want to talk about Amy Klobuchar. The audience we had that was in studio for us or in studio in what we call our studio, the other part of this building watching. It was unanimous she had the best debate, the strongest performance. Is there an explanation that makes sense to you. Theres a battle for the moderate lane. Why isnt she winning it . Look, she is going up against joe biden. She is still introducing herself to a lot of voters out her. And her strong point is that shes from that midwest. She understands midwestern values and shes trying to represent that. Her problem is the math. Where the primaries go from now, shes got to raise a lot of money. Aint the midwest. Shes going places where shes not polling as well and she came out. She had to have a great debate performance. And she did deliver that. And especially going after Pete Buttigieg and others trying to pull away so she can peel away so she can stay in the race. It gets tougher for her, easier for joe biden. But joe biden isnt we learn from iowa that joe biden maybe isnt as presumptive as we think. So that opens up a door for klobuchar. Definitely opens up a door for warren. And it makes it tougher for Pete Buttigieg who is also having a tough time with voters of color. He has not been able to get over that hump. Whats ironic is that should Amy Klobuchar because she is directly targeting buttigieg and his voters. If she wins, she picks up the same problem when she gets to South Carolina and nevada because she also does not have a lot of residents with voters of colors. She also has issues. She was a former prosecutor. There are former cases that they dug deep into a prosecution case. It hasnt come up now because shes not a front runner. It will if she moves up. She and Pete Buttigieg claimed the middle of the country, whatever you want to call it. The winner oh that battle was Pete Buttigieg. Amy klobuchar came in fifth in iowa. That was her big play was the midwest. Shes in a neighboring state. If she could not do better in her own home region, that doesnt fill people with a lot of belief that perhaps shes the strongest candidate. The debate performance definitely could have helped her. The iowa performance was a real problem. Quickly, her biggest problem is money. She never had a viral moment. She never was a National Brand before she ran for president. Shes saying i raised 2. 5 million. Mike bloomberg just spent 3. 5 million. For her to survive and run advertising, you havent seen a lot from her here, its going to be difficult for her to continue. Ive seen a lot of advertising for tom steyer who is going after joe bidens black vote. In South Carolina, hes coming in second. Does joe biden to protect his South Carolina fire wall, he needs to come in he needs to win here. Right . Am i wrong that he needs to win he can come in second to Bernie Sanders and start to have a comeback. He doesnt have to win. He cant come in fourth again. He has to beat buttigieg. If he comes if fourth, who picks up his support . I think buttigieg. I think warren is hoping to pick up some. The black support . I think warren will pick up more. Warren is only polling at 10 with black voters. Its not a slam dunk. If you look at the polling in South Carolina, biden, steyer, and then Bernie Sanders. He has young people of color. Interesting. Thats right. Thank you very much. Up next, more a. M. 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Thats exactly what happened to senator romney. A lone republican as you may have read defected and joined the democrats. Hes the ultimate selfcentered politician. That senator shall go unnamed on this show on the grounds that silly moral preening should not clearly losing an election ruins people. Look at gore, clinton, and mccain. This is disgusting what he did. Romney is going to be associated with Benedict Arnold forever. Joining me now, Sherrod Brown of ohio. Thank you for being here. . Of course. Donald trump tweeted at me. It helped me sell a few books, but it didnt ruin my life. Are these senators terrified . Are they afraid donald trump is going to call them a name or tweet at them . Yeah. I mean, i think fear was the business in the office too often. 20 years ago i was a member of the house. I opposed the iraq war. I remember what bush did to people that were thinking about opposing the war. He would put out there they were unpatriotic, soft on terrorism. And i saw fear do the business, and people when politicians make decisions based on fear, its almost always the right decision. I talk to a lot of republicans individually. Im not going to out people by name. Ly never do that. They were private conversations. But i see the fear in their eyes. They tell me they know the president lies. Theyre concerned about what he did not just on the phone call but leading up to it and the coverup later. They have all these fears, because most of them are human beings that can see this. But fear does the business. They like the tax cuts from trump. They like the young right wing judges. They like his attacks on the environment and womens rights and labor and civil rights but in the end, fear does the business with a huge number of senate republicans. Let me play for you marco rubio of florida. Theres sort of a saying that if youre counting on rubios courage to save you, youre probably doomed but here he is acknowledging that donald trump did wrong. 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