Man who used to regularly complain that america was being laughed at by other countries brushed off the literal laughter at him. Fast forward to this past week. His fourth of july military parade slash campaign commercial has been mocked relntlessly by strick Airline History reconstructionests in the United States who question his and his speechwriters analysis when airports began to appear, and even by the media in his favorite country, russia where the trump parade was where leaked memos reportedly revealed britains man in the u. S. Has labeled Trumps White House as uniquely dysfunctional. He wrote that we dont really believe this administration is going to become substantially more normal, less dysfunctional, less unpredictable, less faction driven, lez diplomatically clumsy and inept. The memos were leaked to the rupert murdic tablo Rupert Murdock tabloid, the london daily mail. The u. K. Foreign office has issued a statement which does not deny the voracity of the leak. Joining me now author of trump nation. Natasha, msnbc contributor and National Correspondent for politico. Let me go to you first henry in the u. K. What has been the reaction on the u. K. Side . Because we know u. K. Is about to get a Prime Minister. One sometimes trump friendly Boris Johnson, so its an awkward time for this to come out. So whats the reaction over there . Theres been very strong reaction, joy. Lets remember this is from britains top man in washington. And when you consider whats at stake, the story is running really strongly. The Foreign Office which is his ultimate boss says what youd expect our ambassadors to have clear unvarnished conversations with us, thats what we pay them for. Nigel faraj, trumps chief cheerleader in the u. K. Says is unsuitable to his posts and should be sacked. And the chairman of the Committee Says this guy was right to just make his conversation clear and direct with a Foreign Office, but that somebody has broken the trust that british people may lose out as a result of that this, and there needs to be a serious inquiry. Well, its interesting, this came out first of all in a Rupert Murdock paper. I find it interesting that Donald Trumps sort of ideological allys paper is where this came out. The British Public would expect our ambassadors to provide ministers with an unvarnished assessment of the politic ins their country. The views are not necessarily the views of the country. Its important that our ambassadors can offer their advice and our team in washington have strong relations with the white house and no doubt these will outstand such mischievous behavior. Your recording on this, natasha. Yeah, i think thats right, joy. I think someone clearly wants derek gone. The timing of these leaks is very suspicious to say the least. Theyre coming just a new Prime Minister is about to come into power in the u. K. , someone likely to be Boris Johnson. Hes been viewed viewed hes very proeu and a very popular figure in washington as well. Hes known for all the parties he throws and the very socialable atmosphere that the British Embassy has here. And i think its important to note just separate and apart from the paper it was published in which is of course a murdock owned tabloid, this story was also written by a journalist with quoteunquote deep tie tuesday the brexit, that funded brexit and allegedly had ties with russians. This is journalist herself who has cultivated services with the Russian Security services and used that to embarrass russian officials in the task. So i think we need to be very we need to view this with a lot of caution. I think its not necessarily huge news that an ambassador, a British Ambassador would, you know, have these views of the president. You know, everything he said is pretty much the views of officials in washington of this administration broadly. But the source and the timing of the leak is very interesting. Im just getting in my ear the daily mail is not owned by Rupert Murdock. Donald trump seems to be obsessed with am british family, love the pomp and circumstance for a long time. How do you think hes going to be that hes inept, he has a low attention span, he needs simple facts, hes not a nuanced thinker. But hes probably going to seek retribution. In 2016 one of his cables leaked to the may government saying he thought the British Government could easily influence trump. Trump went onto twitter and said that nigel farage should replace derek. He would get replaced probably by Boris Johnson anyway, so im not sure this was an attempt to move derek out. I would imagine this is consistent with everything consistent thats happened around with leaks from the white house, or the cia or fbi where you have lifelong institutional operators who are concerned about the threat to the rule of law or the threat to National Security that donald trump poses, and they speak about that with candorternally. Most of this stuff doesnt normally get out to the public and this did, and i think this is significant thing to ponder. Im going to go back to henry on this because one of the pieces leaked to the daily mail said on june 22nd, adding its unlikely u. S. Policy in iran is going to become coherent any time soon. This is divided administration, he questioned trumps recent claim he aborted a recent missile strike in iran and its more likely he never fully was onboard and that he had worried how his 2016 Campaign Promises would look come 2020 of the next president ial election. What do you make of specifically leaking memos that had to do with iran to the point tim just made, this comes at a very tricky time in terms of iran policy . Very much so because of course the iranians have clearly and deliberately breached the agreements on enriching youura on two occasions. Britain is a major supporter of the deal. It has so much invested in this deal and its falling apart not necessarily because of the iranians but because the Trump White House tore it up. He wanted to make it clear, look, you cant trust us on this policy. So very serious and its a real headache for the incoming Prime Minister. What would Boris Johnson or jeremy hunt do. Its important to remember that the daily mail and the mail online, the sunday mail is owned by associated newspapers, which is not part of the murdock group. It is a right leaning newspaper organization, a media organization, but it is not part of the perdock empire. So the fact theyve got this information and prepared to put it out is very significant. And they have been cheerleaders and a big supporter of no deal and nigel farage, and is trumps chief cheerleader and the guy trump suggested should replace him in washington. Very interesting. Lets talk about what trump might do in retaliation this has come out. There hasnt been a response from the white house yet, but what are you thinking the likely response will be . This is britain but i dont know donald trump seems to i dont know, what do you think his response might be . Therell probably be a tweet but as we said before derek was likely to be removed anyway by the new primer coming in. So whether or not this hastened it is clear its up to the British Government who theyll appoint as ambassador to the u. S. Derek is a popular figure here. This is obviously not going to help his standing with the administration which his entire job is to cultivate ties with the white house. If hes seen as becoming less effective, then perhaps theyll remove him faster than perhaps maybe he would have left. If Boris Johnson comes in as Prime Minister it is expected hell appoint someone new. This is double humiliation this week. Donald trump is mocked by his friends in russia but the media there mocked his, you know, parade. And you have himself being mocked by the top britain in d. C. Remember hes already publicly tried to humiliate the mayor of london. Hes publicly in both press conferences and twitter humiliated and you have the u. K. And u. S. And theres this hypocrisy around trump trying to say hes insult bide anyone else speaking the truth about how he actually operates in the white house, but his reaction is predictable. Theyll come back fighting. And what should we look forward to in this new world of Boris Johnson plus donald trump, its quite a difference in these two countries that seem to be leaders of the west, for these two guys to be running these two nations. I know. A lot of opeople are making comparisons between Boris Johnson and donald trump, not just the tussled blonde hair but also the chaotic private life, lots of different children, dubious marital arrangements. Boris johnson having a massive row with his girlfriend which was picked up by a recording device with his neighbor and leaked to the newspaper. Boris johnson is a guy who likes things blunt, big picture, no detail. Boris johnson is the same as trump in that respect. But at the same time big personality. The big question can he cut through not just the tory party in the country but it british people at large with no deal and have a different deal than theresa may had. Boris johnson has set his political future on leaving the European Union come hell or highwater by the 31st of october. But a lot of people believe hell have to walk that back very soon if and when he becomes Prime Minister, watching him very, very closely indeed. What a mess. What a mess. It is. 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We allowed the Asylum Seekers to go through the legal process. We low aed Community Based agencies to take the lead and show us evidence based approaches to making sure people are in humane conditions, they have medical care, that they are not going to go hungry. I can tell you as a mother of two but also as a child of immigrants, immigrant parents, i know my parents would have done the same thing for me to have a better future. But what our country is doing is creating a generation, a generation of children that will remember what our country did to them, and that to me i will not vote for something broken and deteriorated and inhumane. Congresswoman Rashida Talib moments ago standing by her decision to vote for the border funding bill after she and other democratic lawmakers visited the Detention Center in clint, texas, which has become the ugly embodiment of the Trump Administrations immigration policy. The New York Times out with its own reporting of that facility, and its describing the situation, as, quote, the stuff of nightmares. Outbreaks of scabies, chickenpox were spreading among the hundreds of children being held in cramped cell, agents said. The stench on childrens dirty clothing was so strong it spread to the agents own clothing. People in town would scrunch their noses when they left work. One girl seemed likely enough to kill herself that the agents made her sleep on a caught in front of them so they could watch her as they were processing new arrivals. Theres some of that the New York Times report. And joining me now nbc news contributor and attorney. Jim rudd, senior agent who left the agency and became an immigrant rights aspect and the author of how to catch a russian spy. You tweeted out the other day, as a former agent i can tell you cruelty is the point, they have the ability to treat families huminty but do not because Border Patrol does not value the live of immigrants. This is taught in the academy and reinforced by management. Please explain. Thanks for having me on, joy. In the academy they teach agents to use racist terms for migrants. They teach the agents all about, you know, how to keep people out hut butt they dont necessarily teach them there are Asylum Seekers and refugees that are coming here and need our help. So Border Patrol, the fact theyre dealing with Asylum Seekers is unusual. When i was an agent, if somebody claimed asylum, you process their claim and then got them a hearing before a judge. So the fact that theyre holding Asylum Seekers is very odd, but i can also attest to the fact this isnt just happening in texas. This is happening all across the border, and this is happening in san diego, too, because i volunteer at a lot of the shelters here, and i see these Asylum Seekers get off the department of Homeland Security buses, and theyre telling me that theyre being held in the same conditions in the san diego Border Patrol stations, and they also have lice all in their hair. They are covered with scabies. Theyre suffering from the flu. And theyre wearing the same clothes that theyve been wearing for over a week. And its just horrible. Ive never seen anything like this even as an agent. Just one moment. I want to go back to something. Youre saying that instructors that are teaching people who are going into customs and Border Patrol are teaching them racist terms for the migrants . Theyre teaching it to them as, you know, theyre studying to become customs and Border Patrol agents . Theyre teaching them those words . Oh, absolutely. In my case i grew up in alabama and i honestly didnt even know what the Border Patrol was. After i graduated from college i needed a job and someone told me they were hiring. I just assumed it was an fbi or something, and i had never heard of the terms, well, one term at least that we were taught to use for the migrants. They judge you on that as a trainee, if youre not willing to use these terms, if youre not willing to be harsh towards the migrants that you encounter, then youre judged by that. And that reflects on whether or not theyll retain you. Wow, let me play one more thing for you, jen. This is the acting department of Homeland Security this morning. Take a listen. You just referenced three things that were unsubstantiated, inadequate food, inadequate water and unclean cells. None of those have been substantiated. We have no evidence that children went hungry, first of all. Police station cells are not a good place for children. Had agents raised alarms you had heard about . Of course were worried about it. Everyone in the tire chain of kmanld was worried about the situation for children. The big point was to move in to hhs. Was he telling the truth . I dont think so. And if you look at their own tweets i want to say theyre not. If you look at the day before a chief at thetusen sector in arizona showed a video how beautiful and clean their cells were, and that they had a plenty of food and diapers for children and everything was just hunkydory and beautiful. And then within not even 24 hours you turn around and the chief of the u. S. Border patrol is claiming that theyve been trying to get congress and she says specifically democrats to listen to them and give them more money and everythings out of control. And theyre trying to do the best they can and theyre overrun. So which is it . It seems theyre giving two different messages here. Let me read you a bit of this horrifying story that i thought, you know, tried to be quite fair to the Border Patrol people, to put it kindly. And this is one line of it. We had nine agents processing, two agents in charge of care, and we cant carry them or change diapers. We do ask the older juvenile, the 16yearolds and 17yearolds for helping out with that. That was their justification. One said one had taken her medicine for her infant son who had a fever, did they throw away anything else she was asked of her. Everything she replied. They threw away my babys diapers, formula, bottles and clothes. They through away everything. The babys fever came back and she begged the agents for medicine. Who came you to come back to america anyway, one of the agents said according to her account. These women are reporting being verbally abused and having their kids medicine being taken. Is that legal . Just as an overview i want people to understand if you are undocumented and in this country without autho