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MSNBCW AM Joy January 21, 2017

Marches taking place around the country and in 60 countries around the world. Marked organizers say today is about citizens ensuring equal rights for women and defending marginalized people. Meanwhile, donald trump is jumping right into the job. He issued his First Executive orders on friday. Republicans have apparently decided they are actually in favor of executive action now that barack obama is gone. The onepage document that inissued by trump instructs federal agencies to begin rolling back whatever regulations and whatever parts of the Affordable Care act that they deem too costly for insurers, Drug Companies, et cetera. No word yet on how theyre going to do that. But its clear that Trumps Administration is trying to gut the act even before Congress Repeals it. Trump also immediately made a change to housing policy that will increase mortgage payments for up to 850,000 americans and lowincome home buyers. Trumps doj also pressed pause on the Consent Decree that was reached with the state of the city of baltimore following the freddy gray case. Well have more on that later, as well. And were going to talk a little bit more of that direct action. Trump also asked for a 30day delay in a federal challenge to voter i. D. Laws in texas. President obama had issued that challenge against the state of texas, which has one of the strictest voter i. D. Laws in the country. Joining me now are congresswoman evet clark, president and ceo of the center for Global Policy solutions and joan walsh, National Affairs for the nation. Shining bright lights in my face and lets talk a little bit about the stakes here today. I have to first start by asking you about this Consent Decree delay in baltimore. I mean, we saw the freddy gray case and the uprisings that took place because of the killing of freddie gray or death of freddie gray and what do you think . We are really concerned. How police are treating the citizens of baltimore. We were pleased and really had to make sure that a final agreement was made before the Trump Administration came in. But now that theyre in, the first action that they do is actually seek to delay the judge actually having a hearing on it. Were actually concerned and were wondering whether this is a first attempt to try to roll back the decree. Congresswoman, you know, on the Affordable Care act before congress, before your body even gets a chance to weigh in on what to do with the aca, trump comes in and its really interesting and explicit that the decree, very vaguely worded and dont do anything that is too costly for insurance companies, Drug Companies and states. Absolutely. I think you need to take mr. Trump at his word. He says he wants to repeal the Affordable Care act. And hes already made actions, the very first axz ction is to so. We need all americans who understand whats at stake here, which is really life and limb. To stand up, stand out and make their preferences known because the congress will have actions to take, as well. And they need to know that their jobs on the line. If republicans do go through, just veer off for a moment to Affordable Care act and are democrats going to cooperate in sort of a substandard replacement or make them literally live with what theyve done until 2018 . I am under the impression. I will tell you that i will personally make sure they live up to what theyve done and i get the feeling from my colleagues as you can see by the boycott of the inauguration yesterday, that they are going to make sure they own that. They own that. Something like 60 democrats. No senators. I have to talk a little bit about this march to the reason that were here. The way of looking at this as saying why didnt all of these women. Were already seeing the crowds here are much thicker, substantial, growing early than we saw yesterday. Why didnt these women have this energy to march to the polls and vote for a woman president . I think that is what a lot of people have rattling around in the back of their minds. Im sure a lot of these women out here, joy, did do that. We cant overestimate. But 47 of them voted for her. Not great. But, you know, she got a lot of votes. She got the most votes. But i hear what youre asking and i know some people who worked on the campaign who will not be marching today. I read a really moving piece on medium by a Young Clinton Campaign Worker who said, i did my marching and where were you when i was marching in the cold in iowa and all through this country. So, yeah, you know, they deserved a little bit more help than they got. But i think the people here have been fired up. Are fired up. The fact that this is a womans march. Men are welcome lots of men are coming down. It was incredible. But i just want to speak to one thing that you raise which is what kind of a person as one of its first actions goes and tells low and middle income, firsttime home buyers youre going to pay another 500 next year in insurance. I have to make sure i finish my lunch and im going to cut that for you. Im going to cut that credit for you. Who does that . How could that be your first action . Not only that, but also going on to the white house standard which is standard. When a new administration comes in they wipe whats on the white house website and some of these changes. Law and order. This sort of veiled message saying we will no longer tolerate, basically, protests. And these veiled messages saying were going to be the law and order presidency. 100 supporting police and then climate change. No, were not going to talk about that. Thats gone from the website. We have women out here marching. As joan very, i think, honestly said, there is a sense among women of color that women of color have actually been here already and already alarmed. Do you feel, i dont know, any way about that . So, absolutely. Climate denialism seems to be the order of the day for this administration. They are asserting their own identity, but they dont want anybody else to actually have any rights based on their identity. So, you know, i think that there is a lot of concern about the Lgbt Community and africanamericans are very concerned. Law and order are not so veiled. Its clear that the fraternal order of the Police Actually campaigned and came out in support of the Trump Administration and the police view this, i think, and many africanamericans view this at open season on our communities and were concerned. In his speech yesterday, he indicated that this is going to be, were going to restore law and order. And for africanamericans, not only that, but for women. Women cannot get justice in communities around the country. That is why rape kits are sitting untested and unseen in baltimore as a part of the Consent Decree. There were issues around gender and sexism. Even if anybody who had a complaint, they were finding their complaints were being diverted or not heard at all or not being taken seriously. This is not just about people of color. This is about women. This is what is exciting about today. The organizers of the march were actually intersectional in their planning and their stratogizing. This is about all marginalized population and an inclusion revolution making sure we are the voice for all the people who are trying to be marginalized. And, congresswoman, i think this is the point. Youre seeing not just in the United States and really around the world women suddenly coming to the realization of just how atrisk your fundamental right and just decency towards women. The idea that somebody who boasted about assaulting women and what he could grab on their bodies, which sparked the reason you have the pink hats on everyone. Absolutely. The idea that somebody like that would be affirmed by the American People. Is it a depressing moment or an uplifting one . Its an empowering one. I believe that people recognize that in a democracy all of our voices count. You know, we may have fallen short on election day, but we did carry the popular vote. And, so, there are many more americans who are in tune with the fact that were in the 21st century. And were not turning back the clock. Were not going to stand for the type of, if you will, fascism. And im going to use that word. That many use to their advantage while suppressing and oppressing marginalized communities in this nation. And people across the spectrum, across economic status, across religions have come to that eureka moment and thats what we see here on the mall today. We see people coming together from across this nation making their way to the capital to let we know as a member of congress that theyre not going to stand for this. And im here to receive them. Its important. Im glad you said that. The 1963 march on washington was not a march to celebrate the congress, but a march to instruct the congress to get to work on a civil rights bill. You know, joan, i think that is the sort of sense. Women around the world have had this shock to the system. The idea that womens rights are considered to be a throw away and that maybe the respect for women that a lot of young women. We both have young daughters kind of took for granted. Do you see that when you talk to your daughter and you talk to her friends, her peer group that this is a wakeup call . Absolutely. As you know, my daughter did work for Hillary Clinton across five states, including the bronx. And she, you know, it was, i think, completely shock. None of us were predicting this. I had plans to be here for six months ago expecting different circumstances. I came because i wanted to be part of this march. I think it is a necessary wakeup call. A lot of people who didnt do what they could in the final days because they thought the election was in the bag. And now theyre seeing and theyre learning anew and its inspiring and sobering, as well. Interesting that Hillary Clinton probably 30 years ago went to the u. N. And said human rights are womens rights and youre seeing that message here again. We should show the parade route to my producers back in new york. Sort of mapping what the inaugural walk is. What do you think is the big take away that women should get from what theyre seeing today and men . Action. There was a big bruhaha about Hillary Clinton not being invited and the fact of the matter is, she is here. The reason people are out there. Two reasons. Anger because she was the most qualified candidate in recent modern history. We are behind the rest of the world in having a woman lead our nation. Were behind pakistan and india and places like liberia. And, yet, what we saw is that if the election was taken from her. So, with that i think people are angry because women are finding that there is a Glass Ceiling still here in america and theyre fearful that they know the gop agenda is one that is antiwomen. Not only is the president mu sau challenge their right to Reproductive Health and other things important for womens lives. What is the Congress Going to do . What are democrats going to do . Work with the administration for fight for them . I think a big fight ahead, quite frankly. Where we can work with them, we stand ready to do so. Whenever you say that, people literally cringe. No, no, no, republicans cant do that. I have to say this, if there is something that will uplift the people that i represent in the ninth congressional district, im duty bound to make sure thats done. Im not compromising. A big difference between working with someone and compromising on the values that hold your community together. They call the Congressional Black Congress the conscious of the congress and you know were going to be watching you. If not, now you know people will show up and march. Listen, my mother will show up and march and we dont want that. Thank you very much. And joan walsh will be back later in the show. Next up, well ask a woman who supports donald trump what she thinks of todays rally. Stay with us. Just like the people who own them, every business is different. But every one of those businesses will need legal help as they age and grow. Whether it be help starting your business, vendor contracts or employment reements. Legalzooms network of attorneys can help you every step of the way so you can focus on what you do. Well handle the legal stuff that comes up along the way. Legalzoom. Legal help is here. We are waiting the National Prayer service this morning at the National Cathedral where donald trump and his family will be. Well keep an eye on that. Meanwhile, today massive womens march on washington is largely aimed at sending a message to the incoming president. Whose agenda could have serious consequences for women on reproductive rights, health care and equal pay. Joining me now is civil rights lawyer lisa bloom. Thank you, all, for being here. I know youre both out of your weather zone. California and miami in the house. Im fired up. Youre fired up. Absolutely. I want to go, first to you because, congratulations, your side won. Do you have what are your thoughts on this womens march on washington . I think this is a wonderful thing. As a matter of fact this should be a gd example for any future mishaps. Lets say he does not fire through on a lot of things that hes talking about. But when you say that my side won, i think we all won in the long run if we can get these ideas out the way its being done today and if we can at some point begin to work together. I think what are the things you want to see done and what ideals do you think we have in common . Id like to see less taxes and a better Affordable Health care act and i would like tasee rights and privileges for everyone. I would like to see all of us coexist and see us be as one. Do you think trump wants that based on what he said . Yes. I think many times, joy, i find that they macro into Little Things and they just dont get the big picture. Well see in the long run what mr. Trump will do for the country. Lisa, your thoughts. Well, theres a reason why women are out. Im sitting here and im watching thousands and thousands of women stream by right behind us and in 281 cities around the world and on several continents because we think he will be true to his promise to roll back reproductive rights. This is a man who sexualizes his own daughter and had a dozen women, including four of my clients accuse him of sexual misconduct, who bragged about sexual assault. This is not a friend to women and we are here today in the tradition of i love your sash. I am wearing a sash and i have one for you, joy. Oh, look at this. Im going to be stylish. This was made by a group of sisters in colorado and the tradition of suffrage 100 years ago who had to get out there and fight for our rights and thats were doing today. Youre such a wonderful for all people and you speak truth to power. Go colorado. You know, im always going to represent denver. So when you hear that, iliana. You do have a guy who the way he talks about women, humiliating her and we talked about this before. You know the infamous access hollywood when i talk to women, young iwomen, especially, of a shock that somebody who is just in the way he speaks about woman is so denigrating to be president. I dont find it that way in the contrary. You have four clients who have lawsuits against him they dont have lawsuits. They spoke out against him. Hes really not guilty. He needs to be indicted to be guilty. Thats not true. First of all in the media we talk about facts every day where people havent gone to court and been proven one way or another. If i can respond to the question you asked. This man caught on tape bragging about sexual assault. Three weeks later very quickly he came to the table and settled her lawsuit. So, i think that does speak volumes and how many women have to come out and speak out about him before 1 or 2 or 12 of them would be believed. To that point, lets talk a little bit about the latest case. And your mom, gloria allred, civil rights attorney. A defamation suit now filed against donald trump, accused donald trump of sexually assaulting her. He defamed her when she made up the assault. That could go to court. We could have the spectacle of a sitting president of the United States sued by somebody who alleges she sexually assaulted him. Does that give you any . We weave seen how he has overcome many obstacles. You can throw all these ingredients in. I think that the movement, this movement, i would want it to be a Womans Movement and not a man bashing movement. Thats how i would like tasee this movement as a movement procountry. Not white men bashing is it bashing white men to say this particular white man, donald trump, they have assaulted up to 13 women. But has it been proven . In order for it to be legitimate in journalism and also in the law, it needs to be proven. And he needs to be indicted. This is proactive to what you want to do today. Womens rights. The point. Lets see. I like you and i want to i like you, too. I want tafind Common Ground with you because i think youre a reasonable person. I thought about the sign i wanted to make for the womens march a lot. I wanted it to be very positive. Lets see if we can agree. Would you call yourself a fierce fabulous feminist . I call myself a fierce fabulous person. Feminist can be someone who in reality wants to go out and make sure that women dont get, dont consider arent considered female sex like they do in hollywood with the stereotypes. But theres also a feminist movement that is men bashing. I love men. I dont want to bash men. Feminists think they should have equal rights. We have equal rights. We dont. We dont have equal pay laws and dont have the equal rights amendment. How are womens rights being rolled back this time . Let me give you one way. Trump has come in and one of the things t

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