all i heard was former fbi agents telling me that there is a revolution going on inside the fbi and it's now at a boiling point. >> good morning and welcome to "a.m. joy." we're three days away from election day. that friday admission from rudy giuliani is raising new questions about the fbi's unprecedented involvement in the presidential race. that's following director james comey's defiance of justice department policy against intervening in presidential politics before election day. giuliani's comments come after "the guardian" reported the deep antipathy within the fbi is the motive for the recent leaks that are potentially damaging to her campaign. with one current agent going so far to say that, quote" is trumpland." and that the, why they're leaking is they're pro trump. the fbi's link to the trump campaign was implicated in the bureau's 2015 decision to begin an investigation into the clinton foundation. as the "wall street journal" reported this week, that investigation was launched on little evidence other than claims made in the book "clinton cash: the untold story of how and why how foreign businesses helped made bill and hillary clinton rich." that book, the source of the fbi's investigation was written by this guy. conservative author and republican activist peter schweitzer. the president of the government accountability institute, a conservative think tank cofounded by this guy. steve bannan. the former head of breitbart news who left his old job for his current job as trump campaign ceo for the republican nominee for president. joining me now is congressman cummings. he's calling for an investigation into the fbi leaks. >> good morning. >> what did you want to see investigated? and who would do such an investigation? >> well, the ig -- the inspector general for the fbi would do the investigation. what we're trying to figure out is what -- who did rudy giuliani talk to? he says he got information from former fbi agents, but clearly there's information coming out in current fbi agents. we want to know who the agents were and exactly why they're doing this. it's basically undermining the fbi. when you lose trust in the fbi, clearly you can end up with a crisis of legitimacy. >> and, congressman, in your time in public service as a member of congress, have you ever seen the fbi essentially leaking information about a supposed investigation publicly before an election? have you ever heard of an investigation that was begun on the basis of a partisan book? >> no, no i've never heard of either, joy. don't forget, joy, i practiced criminal law for some 20 years before coming to congress. normally when there's a question of whether somebody or something is being investigated, what you have is the fbi basically saying no comment. 999. -- 99.9% of the time they wouldn't tell you whether they're looking into something. we're having all kinds of leaks regarding hillary clinton. it's interesting, however, we have not heard any kind of statements coming out about -- at least from mr. comey with regard to russians and trump and mr. manafort. >> your colleague across the aisle, jason cha vits, with whom you serve with. he's made it clear he intends to take these investigations that have been leaked by the fbi and use them to essentially investigate hillary clinton out of office. to hound her with investigations should she win the white house. what do you make of that before we've even had the results of the presidential election? >> it does not surprise me. i know they're going to try to do that. keep in mind, joy, that's basically what they tried to do to president obama. back when president obama first came in the office, if you recall, mr. mcconnell of the senate said that his number one priority was to make sure that he did not serve more than one term. so basically jason is going along with the book. i think it is unfortunate before somebody is even elected talking about impeachment. i think it basically goes against the fabric of our democracy. >> do you -- foresee any possibility that once the new congress convenes there will be proactive work done in congress or are we just looking at endless investigations? >> i think there are going to be a lot of investigations, but i also think that the american people are going to demand that we address their problems. they are tired of obstruction, destruction, and distractions. we've got to be about the business of solving the problems of the american people. i'm going to do everything in my power to make sure it happens. >> all right, sir. your mouth to god's ear. elijah cummings, thank you. i want to bring in richard painter. an investigative journalist wayne barrett joining me by phone. he's the reporter of this piece in the "daily beast" about the ties between top trump supporters and the fbi. i want to go to you, first. it does seem from the story you wrote, mr. barrett, there is a culture of trumpism within the fbi. to what do you attribute what appears to be in the new york office an trumpist attitude whard the -- toward the clintons. >> caller: it's a joy to be with you, joy. thank you for taking me from my sick bed here, but i don't know whether it's -- i don't know if i agree with the terminology the source used is trump land. there certainly is, i call it a fifth column, you know, within the new york metropolitan area fbi office of anti-clintonism. i think that's much more the inspiration here that a trumpism. certainly there are agents who have gone down many trails on the clinton front here with an aggressiveness that is absolutely clear and are willing to talk to not just rudy giuliani, but as my piece laid up, jim calstrom, a daily visitor on fox news. rudy has said in previous appearances he was talking to active agents. now he's saying they're all former agents. but as recently as october 28th, he's said on a radio show he was talking to active agents. calstrom said i'm talking to agents involved in the clinton cases. he's said it more than once, as has megyn kelly said you're talking to agents involved in the case. so there have been -- there are certainly some sort of -- as you called it, a couple of days ago, joy, a sell, the new york fbi office that is fired up about these clinton cases. whether or not they're trumpites, i don't have any idea. >> i want to stay with you quickly and walk back through the origins of the clinton dislike within the fbi. is there any relationship between that anti-clintonism and, for instance, rudy giuliani's own fights with hillary clinton going back to 2000 when she sharply criticized him over the killings of unarmed civilians. of course that was nypd. but also situations that go forward like the eric garner case. the same fbi agents have been pulled off the case by the justice department because of differences of opinion over that case. is that part of it? is it sort of a general policing attitude? >> i don't have any knowledge of that. i think louis freeh, i mention in the story, is the only fbi agent, other than j. edgar hoover, himself, who went from being an agent to being the director of fbi. he was appointed by bill clinton and spent eight years of trying to put bill clinton in jail. he spoke to the field offices at the recent annual event. he's beloved among fbi agents. he's been after the clintons for as long as we can remember. giuliani, he was supposed to run against hillary and didn't run against hillary. frankly, i never detected as a guy who covered rudy for years that he had this kind of venom about the clintons. he may be borrowing it from others. >> yeah. let me get richard painter in here quickly and find out the theoretical outcome could be. the fbi is now investigating the revival of a dormant twitter feed that started tweeting out old files from the mark rich pardon from bill clinton. positive pieces about fred trump. you have the comey unprecedented discussion of an ongoing case. what could be the legal outcome here for these agents, if they're outed for having leaked for rudy giuliani, if he's coordinating with them? could there be legal implications? >> well, yes. this is clearly a violation of the hatch act, which prohibits using official position over a partisan political purposes, and there may have been a leak of classified information. i'm not sure about that. but for those of us who believe in individual liberty a limited government, this has been a hard year. and we've had to hear from donald trump and his supporters over and over again comments about mexicans, muslims, others an infringement on individual liberty, and now, finally, we see the fbi trying to sway an election. this is very dangerous in a democratic system, and i think the resolution of this is going to have to be on tuesday. the american people simply have to say no to these attacks and individual liberty. there has been an abuse of power by the fbi. lots of talk about abuse of power by mr. trump if he's elected. >> yeah. >> i think tuesday we've got to let him know that for him that's check out time. >> we'll see what happens. richard painter and wayne barrett, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up the battle for florida and new questions about me beg melania trump's immigration status during her modelling career. as a supervisor at pg&e, it's my job to protect public safety, keeping the power lines clear, while also protecting the environment. the natural world is a beautiful thing, the work that we do helps us protect it. public education is definitely a big part of our job, to teach our customers about the best type of trees to plant around the power lines. we want to keep the power on for our customers. we want to keep our community safe. this is our community, this is where we live. we need to make sure that we have a beautiful place for our children to live. together, we're building a better california. have the polls have come up. we're way up in florida. i shouldn't say that. i want you to vote. we're going to pretend we're down. we're down! we'll pretend we're down. no, we got to win. we got to win big. >> how many of you already voted? [ cheers and applause ] well, that doesn't surprise me because 4 million people in florida have already voted! >> both candidates are campaigning in the crucial battle ground state of florida today. donald trump will hold a rally during this very hour in tampa. hillary clinton will be in south florida later this afternoon. our partners at targets say 8 million people have voted early in florida. 40% of the vote comes from democrats, 40% from republicans, and 20% from those listed as "other." according to the latest cnn poll, hillary clinton is up by two points in florida. 49% to donald trump's 47%. clinton's lead tightens to one-point advantage in the new beg quinnipiac poll. it's not just the white house at stake in florida. marco rubio is in a tougher than expected race against challenger patrick murphy who joins me now along with radio host. it appears at a certain point in your race, the democratic party national party kind of abandoned your race. are they back to the table? are they spending money on your behalf? do you feel you're getting the help you need from the national and state parties? >> yes, joy, thank you for having me. we're confident that we are going to have the resources to win this election. as you've seen, we're in a dead heat. the last few polls had us dead tied with senator rubio and florida is a place, as i've been traveling for the last year and a half, have been reminded they want a senator that will show up for work. senator rubio is the worst voting record of any senator from florida in nearly 50 years. i'm proud of what achieved in the congress and want to keep doing it for the people. that's why the race is so close. and then you look at senator rubio's support of donald trump. you can see him trying to distance himself not campaigning with trump in person anymore. but the voters in florida are too smart for that. >> we'll see if fernan has a question you want to throw out? >> i would say to congressman murphy, looking at our poll in florida, the fire wall for hillary clinton in the state is hispanic voters. it got barack obama over the top. according to our numbers we have hillary clinton plus 30 over trump with hispanic voters. only plus six over marco rubio. do you think you can close the gap and widen it at clinton levels? i think that will put you in the senate and send marco rubio home if that happens. >> i think you're exactly right. as you've seen, you know, the hispanic vote is so important for us. president obama filmed an ad in spanish for us reminding the people of florida not only am i going to be a strong voice for passing immigration reform, strong voice for raising the minimum wage. marco rubio turned his back on trusted him the most. he used to be an advocate for immigration reform until he ran for president. he turned his back on those. he doesn't support the drooemers. doesn't support a path way to skthsship. and a lot of folks i talk to republican hispanic voters are not going to vote for marco rubio. they feel he betrayed them. >> congressman murphy, you're under performing hillary clinton now in most of the polls, including not really catching up necessarily in name id to where you might need to be north to take marco rubio. part of the deficit is african-american voters. have you failed to make a sufficient case to black voters in florida that would get them to turn out for you, including turning out early? >> well, i would say when it comes to name id, you're right. florida is 20 million people. we're being outspent by about 4-1 by the koch brothers and marco rubio and his right-wing friends. that has an impact with name id. name id isn't always good for marco rubio. his name id might be 95% a lot is bad name id. he doesn't want the job. he doesn't like it. he has a terrible voting record. what we're saying in our polls we're actually doing pretty much as well as secretary clinton. actually overperforming with her in several areas. we have to raise our name id especially in the hispanic communities getting our name id up there. that's why you've seen a lot of ads going in that area. we'll be with the president tomorrow in kissimmee and continuing to make sure that people know who i am. >> fernan i didn't hear a answer about the african-american voters. talk about the myth broadly that the african-american vote is not showing up for democrats including for congressman murphy in florida >>well, what we've seen, joy, in the last couple of days of early voting. call it the obama effect but we've seen the african-american votes start turning out in greater numbers. the key is this, if democrats want to win florida, the formula is very simple. it's hispanic voters plus black voters plus young progressives and single white women. that's the way to get across. patrick murphy has to do better if he wants to defeat marco rubio. >> we'll see what happens. this is an important race. we presume that marco rubio is going to try again for the white house 2020. more stories are surfacing in the final hours of the hotly contested election. the associated press is reporting that melania trump was paid for ten modelling jobs in the u.s. before she had legal permission to work in the country. the report is based on accounting ledgers contracts and related documents from 20 years ago provided to the associated press. nbc news and msnbc have not verified the report. we reached out to the trump campaign but have not received a response. i want to bring in raul reyes. on the phone antonio vargas. jose antonio vargas, i'll come to you, first. we were texting as soon as the story came out. you were one of the first texts i received. at is your reaction as somebody yourself undocumented finding out that the candidate who wants to deport people like you is married to somebody who was herself apparently working as an undocumented migrant. >> caller: well, we're all about sharing stories and humanizing this very political issue, and for months now we've actually asked melania trump to share her full story. i think what we're learning now with the associated press report she hasn't told the full story when it comes to the issue. and like most immigrants in this country, she's suffering and suffered from a broken, outdated, unrealistic, inhumane immigration system. at the end of the day, given what we know now she violated visa laws by working here without documents. does she standby her own husband's immigration policies? she was supposed to do a press conference which never happened. she did a press conference on bullying. let's go through what the ap found. she said she came in on a visitor visa and obtained a work visa. disentangle that. >> you can be here as a tourist, sightseeing. you can do some business-related work. you can do negotiations. and in melania's case she could get an agent. you're prohibited from working. then by october she said she got her h 1 b visa so she was allowed to work. the ap report has the seven week period where they have evidence she works. the problem there are some legal ramification the. you can get your green card revoked from the u.s. government if they decide to open an investigation. they can take it all the way to revoke your citizenship. that's usually not done if you're involved in a case something like trafficking. we have to put it in context. it seems so bizarre we're talking about america's next undocumented model. but trump, remember, he wants to get rid of the h1b visa program. we have other information reported in the past her former room alleges she was in new york in '85. there's a lot of confusion. the bigger take away is just to show, as jose mentioned, our broken immigration system touches all of us, even an aspiring super model, even a would be president. it shows that melania is putting herself out there and saying i did it the right way. you should be like me. maybe she did think she was doing the right way. it's further evidence of how complicated our immigration system is. >> and, jose, beyond what melania might want to say. i'm assuming she won't want to say much. what do you expect the trump campaign to say about this, if anything, what would you want them to say? >> caller: the height of hypocrisy is how can you be dealing with something as complex as this and try to oversimplify it by talking about separating families. from day ones donald trump's policies are inhumane. it relates to his own wife. for us, i mean, what we want to know is does melania trump, given what we know now, does she standby her husband's immigration policies? absolutely. >> remember last week talking about the word that used by many trump supporters, quote, unquote, illegals in is a perfect example of why we should be mindful and careful of throwing around words like that. it dehumanizes people and look who it's touching now. >> when slovenia sends the immigrants to the united states -- all right. ra thank you. up next the headquarters of the democratic national committee were they bugged? no, it's not 1972. we'll have that story when mother jones joins me after the break. changes to make things right. we've eliminated product sales goals for our retail bankers. to ensure your interests are put first. we're renewing our commitment to you. in a new report for mother jones david corn reports that the dnc has notified the fbi that it has evidence to suggest its headquarters in washington may have been bugged. the evidence was found during security sweeps consultanted by contractors, according to unnamed dnc officials. corn writes "the second sweep, according to the democratic officials found a radio signal near the chairman's office that indicated there might be a listening device outside the office. no device was recovered. no possible culprits identified." the dnc official did confirm the story to nbc news. two fbi officials reached by nbc said neither the dnc nor the contractor ever reported the incident to the agency. joining me now is david corn. let's, first of all, go through what was found. you say they were doing security sweeps. when they in response to the hacking? >> well, it's interesting because they did two security sweeps, joy. the first in september and it was, you know, obviously they were thinking the russian hacking and other things that had gone on. that apparently turned up nothing unusual. then about two weeks ago or so, after james o'keef, the conservative hidden camera video-making guy put out videos showing that he had infiltrated some democratic organizers. the dnc itself donna brazil, the interim chairman of the dnc thought we should do this again. we have volunteers coming in and out of dnc headquarters to phone bank and do other things all the time. and o'keef used people posing as volunteers to get inside other organizations. so she called a second sweep in and this time they found what they call a radio signal near the chairman's office that seemed to indicate to the people doing the sweep that information was being collected and being sent to a device outside the office. former fbi agent who is a security expert in these matters tells us at mother jones this would have to be a very, very sophisticated operation. probably somewhat expensive. anyway, this is what the contractors found, and the dnc, i'm told, by more than one source forwarded the information to the fbi. i called the fbi and they would not confirm or deny any of this. >> on this point the idea that the fbi told nbc news it was not reported to them. in light of the fact that we know there is, what i called a cell or fifth column within the fbi that hates the clintons and presumably would not be necessarily that sympathetic to the dnc, what do you make of the fbi's denials and refusal to comment? >> i don't know. hopefully you went to a different office. look what is begin on here now. the people and the entities alied in efforts to help trump include rogue fbi agents, vladmir putin, the national enquirer, the kkk, david duke, alex jones, and the republican national committee. this is an unholy alliance. trump is good at claiming this election is rigged. it's hard to know and i feel bad saying this whether the fbi would handle information like that in a legitimate way may depend who got their hands on it, first. and i know on the russia/trump connection it seems like the fbi is down playing intelligence it's gathered on that. and i wonder about that, as well. >> yeah. your other scoop at mother jones being that the veteran's five have given the information allegationing a russian operation for donald trump. the fbi playing that down. playing this down but playing up investigations based on right-wing hit books. it's not a good look. it's one of the reasons we need to be worried about the fbi losing credibility. david corn, thank you. coming up new reporting on why vladmir putin is backing donald trump for president. at the time the russians thought trump was too unstable to keep supporting. that's next. for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads here. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. new aleve direct therapy. everything i see has no respect for this person. >> that's because he would rather have a puppet as president of the united states. it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. >> who is the puppet? the news week reporter has been breaking news on donald trump e virtually every week sheds light on the issue in the latest piece. i'm joined by malcolm nans, kirk ikenwald, and a former intelligence operator and author of the book "how to catch a russian spy." summarize this block buster new piece you have. i feel like every week you have another one. tell us what you know. what we know now from your latest reporting in news week regarding russia and trump. >> i think the worst part is that, you know, however we're treating it in this country our nato allies are completely apoplectic about donald trump. they have developed the same information. they know the russians have been interfering in elections in germany, england, and the netherlands. that information has been shared with the information. the united states information has been shared with them. donald trump has been briefed on it. donald trump stands up in front of the american people and says there there is no evidence. we don't know who is doing it. their concern is the concern of the officials overseas of our allies is that we have a presidential candidate who either doesn't listen to briefings, doesn't understand them, or is willing to stand up and lie. they don't know what to make of it. what is it that the russians want? why do they back donald trump? >> it's more they despise hillary clinton. putin feels strongly that clinton interfered in russian domestic affairs when she was secretary of state. they believe that if they disrupt the election and trump wins, for awhile they thought that was fine. if they disrupt the election and trump loses, well, hillary clinton will be governoring over a torn apart nation and so she'll be forced to spend a lot of her time on domestic issues and russia will not be so -- would not have to be so concerned about what actions the united states might take. >> and so let me turn to malcolm. you talked a lot what russia wants. we have reporting that talks about nato allies being very, very concerned that, i mean, that, you know, trump would weaken our nato alliances. you have the "washington post" with a headline essentially saying that the u.s. is warning of russian misteach in our election. perhaps interfering in the election. you have the mother jones headline we talked to david corn about where a veteran spy has given the fbi information alleging a russian operation to cultivate to essentially turn donald trump. why -- are there alarms going off inside the u.s. intelligence community about this? the way it's happening overseas? >> yes. i'm glad the reporting caught up. the united states community has serious concerns. you might remember about two months ago there was a report where one of trump's surrogates was found and recorded by a foreign intelligence to u.s. intelligence he was promising that the trump administration would raise sanctions on putin. these the sort of things because of our laws we can't go out and collect that intelligence. our allies, as kurt said clearly, our allies can listen to the cell phones and do the intercepts and come to us and go look we have evidence your people may be dirty. >> welcome to the show. thank you for coming on today. as a former fbi agent yourself, why is it, then, that at the same time you have the hair on fire reporting of what is happening in our allies overseas and you have malcolm saying in our own intelligence community people are concerned. why does it seem the one group not concerned is the fbi? we just spoke with david corn about the fact that the fbi is down playing these concerns. they alone among all the agencies. why would that be? >> i think it's important to understand there's a distinction within the fbi. there's two silos. the first is the more traditional criminal side that handles investigation and the other the part that falls under the counter intelligence side. counter intelligence the fbi, which is where i was, they don't necessarily build criminal cases. their job is, in fact, to stop, detect, and thwart attacks by foreign entities. i think the counter intelligence side of this is probably very, very active. and i know these guys very well. so i think that you're not going to hear much about that because that's not how they operate. very different part. >> they would have the concerns. malcolm, would it mean you have the law enforcement side or the fbi sort of anti-clintonism overtaking any such concerns? >> well, you know, as he said, there are two cultures within the fbi. and i know some of the spy catchers in fbi counter intelligence. guys who have taken down big names. they are a completely different animal. that's where mischief can happen. the guys on the counter intelligence side they might be busy and we would have no clue it was going on. they could be literally tracking down and waiting to go to the court to write up secret indictments on people who may be winning agents of russian intelligence. >> i have to get in the quick story from your piece about the time the russians pulled back from their operations to assist donald trump because of concerns about his stability. can you tell that story quick? >> it goes back to when trump was attacking the cahn family. was, you know, the golden star family who the father had spoken at the democratic national convention, and trump wouldn't stop. the russians, along with the republicans began to think there was something psychologically wrong with the man. he was demonstrating himself to be unfit for the office and he was going to have to withdraw. and so at that point, they no longer knew what the calculations should be. so there were documents that they had that they were ready to start distributing in the pipeline for propaganda purposes and they said, stop! let's wait until he stabilizes, the polls stabilize, or something else happens. >> wow. >> it's a remarkable report. everybody should check it out. check out malcolm's book. we'll have you come back. thank you so much. thank you. coming up in our next hour, my pal lawrence o'donnell is back with me to give his closing argument before election day. up next the department of justice is sending mongers to north carolina to make sure that voters, particularly african-americans are able to cast their ballots on tuesday. stay with us. ♪ ♪ well, if you want to sing out, sing out ♪ ♪ and if you want to be free, be free ♪ ♪ 'cause there's a million things to be ♪ ♪ you know that there are ♪ and if you want to be me, be me ♪ ♪ and if you want to be you, be you ♪ ♪ 'cause there's a million things to do ♪ ♪ you know that there are ♪ adult 7+ promotes alertness and mental sharpness in dogs 7 and older. 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there's no voter fraud that goes on. really? watch. go over and watch. and watch carefully. so go to your place and vote and go pick some other place and sit there with your friends and make sure it's on the up and up. and you got to watch your polling booths. i hear too many stories about pennsylvania certain areas. >> some voters in critical battle ground states are facing some trouble at the polls. they're mostly not trump supporters. in ohio, a u.s. district judge issued a temporary restraining order on friday against the trump campaign and gop operative roger stone to prevent any attempts to harass or intimidate voters. on tuesday the trump campaign is appealing the order. in north carolina, the naacp sued thousands for purging black voters from the polls if their residence was challenged. on friday the u.s. district judge ordered they were illegal and ordered the state to restore the voters. they are sending four monitors for tuesday's vote. joining me is executive director of the advancement project. thank you for being here. i want to go with you, judith. i want to give you four examples of what north carolina is like in 2016. first thing, north carolina has been found to have violated the motor voter law. the people who tried to register at the department of motor vehicles was -- this is an ad showing a reward, quote, unquote, for anyone caught doing voter fraud. item number three the north carolina judge a district judge about their voter purge said this sounds like something that was put together in 1901. lastly, i want to play a sound bite from dallas woodhouse. the executive director of the north carolina republican party. a guy who sent around the memo telling the local dmv do what you need to do that is pro republican. this is him talking to hallie jackson on thursday. take a listen. >> we don't have a suppression vote problem in north carolina. the democrats have a depression problem. and you know why? it's simple. their candidate, if elected could have these -- >> judith, that's the attitude of the north carolina republican party displayed on our air this week. what do you make of what is happening in north carolina? >> well, you know, north carolina we know is a real battle ground state, and many people are saying that the outcome comes down to north carolina. what that means is that partisan operatives have to do what they can and whatever extent they can to make it harder to vote for particular voters and those are african-american voters. so they're conjuring up all of the kinds of intimidation and threats they can so they can scare people away from the polls or make it harder for them to vote by taking them off the polls in is the kind of trickery we're going to see because they're desperate. instead of just letting americans go to the polls and have their say, they would rather engage in these tactics, which are against the law. that's one of the silver linings of this election cycle is that we are seeing voting rights lawyers winning in the courts on behalf of voters. >> dale, speaking of intimidating voters. i want to show you a tweet called bikers for trump that claims they are deploying poll watchers. they're raising money. they want to raise $25,000. you've seen stories like this. people showing up with guns on their hip at polling places attempting to scare democratic voters. is any of that even legal? >> well, thing is a natural consequence of these very thinly vailed calls for racial profiling at the polls. they tell reporters they're going to engage in racial profiling on election day. one person told the "boston globe" i'm going to look for mexicans, syrians, he used the expression "racial profiling." he's going it get behind people and make them nervous. this is not legal. we had the temporary restraining order in ohio that prevents roger stone's group from questioni questioning about qualifications. or distributing information about voter fraud at the polls. it's a problem. >> yeah. and you have examples in arkansas. a republican election commissioner intimidating voters showing up and yelling "shut up and go home" to early voters. you have white nationalalists claiming they plan to go and distribute weed and alcohol in african-american communities to try to suppress the vote. the idea that people can actually show up at a polling place with a gun, yell at people as they're voting, is it legal to be on the property of a voting location and do that? >> well, states do let people be certified poll mono -- monitors working with campaigns. you're in the allowed to randomly show up at the polls and start questioning voters about their qualifications or what donald trump has called for, for people to in certain parts of pennsylvania to go to other parts of pennsylvania and we know exactly what he's talking about when he says that. he's asking people to violate the law. in pennsylvania you can be a certified poll monitor in a county where you're a registered. >> there's a restraining order on the republican national committee because of voter suppression in the past. you have a judge who issued a temporary restraining order in ohio against a trump campaign, as we have discussed earlier. could the republican national committee in violation -- be in violation of the consent decree because of trump supporters doing these kinds of voter intimidation or the trump campaign doing it? >> joy, i think the court will have to find whether or not the rnc conspired with the operatives and with the state parties. in 2004 they sued the particular case. we found they were working together and conspireing with the state party. i think that's going to be part of the evidence. but, you know, the big problem here is that these operatives and these state parties are out there doing things that violate the voting rights act of 1965 and its illegal and trump has got to stop it. >> yeah. i wish we had a fully realized voting act that can do something about it. >> how about that. >> thank you for being here. i appreciate it. all right. up next lawrence o'donnell joining me to give the last word before tuesday's election. more "am joy" after the break. it's easy to love your laxative... ...when that lax loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases, and softens to unblock naturally. so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. remember, there's two ways to talk about trump. trump the horrible, threatening person, which he is. he's horrible and threatening on all fronts. the other thing he's a complete fraud. he's a complete fraud. >> welcome back to "a.m. joy." three days until voters select the 45th president of the united states. that, of course, was lawrence o'donnell host of "the last word" taking on trump last weekend here on "a.m. joy." he's back now to make the closing argument. >> just a second. so among the things that the audience doesn't get to see is when the msnbc election music is playing, which i don't even hear as music. it's like less than elevator music. >> it is. >> joy reid is dancing. how do you find -- what did you find in that tune? >> it's got a little something to it. you can do a little thing to it. >> the music is in you. that's why you were dancing. >> maybe that's what it is. i've never seen anything feel that music before. >> my name is joy, lawrence. >> yes, correct. >> let's do the closing arguments. i want to play for you donald trump's closing argument and hillary clinton's closing argument. let's go with trump, first. here it is. >> honestly, what a terrible, terrible mess. over what? over nothing. over what should have been nothing. all she had to do is follow the rules. unbelievable. now she's going to run the country. she'll be under investigation for years. she'll be with trials. our country, we have to get back to work, right? [ crowd chanting "lock her up" ] >> let's hear hillary clinton giving her closing argument. that was trump in new hampshire. in is hillary clinton in pittsburgh on friday. >> imagine it's donald trump standing in front of the capitol. we already know a lot about him. someone who demeans women, mocks people with disabilities, insults african-americans and latinos, and demonizes immigrants and muslims and pits people against each other. instead of pulling us together. think about what it would mean to entrust the nuclear codes to someone. [ crowd yelling "no" ] with a very thin skin. that lashes out at anyone who challenges him. >> your assessment of the closes? >> they are both -- they're each trying to get the voter to focus on the other candidate. it isn't really a policy election, at this point. and, who care about policy more than anything else, even at this point find myself slightly bored, i would say, when i hear it come up at this point. we're past that. donald trump, the only way he can possibly win. the margin that would allow him to win would be hatred of hillary clinton. because he's got the races to vote. he has the vote that hates muslims. he has the vote that desperately believes that mexico will pay for a wall on the southern border. he has all that. and that gets him somewhere into the 20s. it doesn't get him where he needs to be in the high 40s, at least, to win this thing. so he needs that, you know, hatred of hillary clinton turn out in order to get there. on the other hand, hillary clinton should, absolutely, keep the focus on donald trump. because that really is the fundamental yes or no question. >> yeah. >> of this election. and this is the election. where, for the rest of your life, you will be asked what you did when donald trump rose. what did you do? how did you vote will be the first question. and if he is elected, the next question will be "what did you do to stop it?" what were you doing the weekend before? six months before? i tweeted something like that seven months ago. a quick -- this is the one you'll be asked about for the rest of your life. what did you do? it got a massive response like nothing i tweeted in years. people feel that. they understand something unique has arisen and something that, to at least half the country and possibly more, we'll see more than half the country believes is fundamentally is un-american. this is not -- this is not john mccain/barack obama. it's not that choice. it's not romney/obama. it's not bush/gore. it's not a thing we've seen. no one asked you how did you vote in '96 on the clinton vers versus dole race. it's not the one that defines you. here is what the vote is. this is one of those votes in which you get to say something about yourself. your vote isn't really about which top tax rate do you want. it isn't really about what international trade policy do you want at this point. this is a vote about yourself. this is a vote, a vote that says when the fundamental principles of american government were challenged, this is where i stood. this is what i wanted to see america do. this is the way i wanted us to move. so there's, you know, there's -- the obama vote was a historic vote and there will be people asking about it for the rest of time. there was a profound importance to it. this is a different thing. this is a vote that has a right and wrong answer. >> yeah. but, you know, the thing is i got to focus on your votes for a second. in the end, the vast majority of african-americans will answer "i did not vote for him." the vast majorities of latinos will answer "i did not vote for him." at this point the vast majority of college-educated women will answer "i did everything i could to keep him out of the white hou house." donald trump hopes hinge on white men. even if they're democrats voting for a white guy for whatever reason, for a mix of reasons, are there enough white male voters who want what donald trump is selling to put him in the white house? do you think? >> no. i mean, statistically that isn't possible. a white male voter has been removed as a decider, in effect. it's a component of the vote now. let's remember the white male voter was the only voter in the founding father's view of this. the founding fathers defended against trump two ways. one is in the structure of the government. the presidency is a fundamentally powerless position, if you follow everything the constitution says about it. in the second half of the 20th century, the congress decided, gee, we're making this too politically sensitive. that's get rid of that. let him do whatever he wants. we're afraid of that. they could take it back. we've seen finally that america has understood that the president only nominates supreme court justices. he doesn't actually choose them. he nominates them. then the united states senate says, okay. so, you know, the congress has complete control over the executive and all -- virtual complete control. that was a founding father's design not trusting the executive. they overthrew a king because they didn't trust single-head governments. so they wanted the executive control. the other way they controlled democracy was to say only people like us can vote. it wasn't just white men. it was property owners. >> right. >> they wanted learnered voters like themselves. there were poll taxes, there were all sorts of things that prohibited just, you know, the poor, white, uneducated. they couldn't vote because the founding fathers did not trust a judgment made by a population this big. and so eventually over time we did. we decided to trust it more and more and more. and so we don't have that capacity to say you have failed our intelligence test. you don't get to vote next time. and then here and now we have arrived in the 21st century at a presidential election that is a public intelligence test. >> yeah. >> it's a pass/fail intelligence test. >> it's remarkable. lawrence o'donnell, it has been a pleasure to go through this process with you and have you here to talk about this. it's almost over. thank god. >> i'm going to see you tomorrow night. >> i'll see you tomorrow night. i was going to say, we're going to do it again. lawrence o'donnell will be here tomorrow night for a special edition of "the last word." i'll be on there. >> a sunday night 10:00 p.m. "last word." that's historic television. >> we have lawrence to not only come on weekends. we have you here on a saturday. now we get you here on a sunday night. if you keep doing this, you'll be doing seven days a week. >> i live here. i never leave the building. >> we got you. up next beyoncè -- >> you're going to be dancing. this is the music. >> my name is joy. >> you dance to this. i defy you at home try dancing to this now. listen to it. ♪ >> beyoncè would. we'll talk about it when we come back. i'll dance to this. at the marine mammal center, the environment is everything. we want to do our very best for each and every animal, and we want to operate a sustainable facility. and pg&e has been a partner helping us to achieve that. we've helped the marine mammal center go solar, install electric vehicle charging stations, and become more energy efficient. pg&e has allowed us to be the most sustainable organization we can be. any time you help a customer, it's a really good feeling. it's especially so when it's a customer that's doing such good and important work for the environment. together, we're building a better california. still days away from the blessed end of this election. headlines are freaking people out. warning of an impending trumpocolypse. hold up for a molt. before we start opining that if hillary clinton were to lose which, folks, is not likely she'll have black voters to blame. let's think about this year's mtv music video awards when britney spears staged her come back. it was a well-choreographed performance where miss britney delighted fans. it came nowhere close to being the most talked about performance of the night. she had to follow this. 16-straight minutes of beyoncè's lemonade-flavored performance. hillary clinton doesn't fully control her timing on the historical program. the reality is, it should be no surprise that after president obama got african-american voters into formation with record turn out in 2008 and 2012 as the first black president, hillary clinton is more like, look at you. look at you singing all "hit me baby you one more time." so special. joining me now is msnbc contributor, editor for the root.com, and rick wayne former senior advisor to the campaign. [ laughter ] so cute. >> everybody is laughing at me. isn't it true? literally hillary clinton is the britney spears. that's just real. >> i remember that moment and thinking that britney needed to fire her manager. look, you know, i would be shocked if black voters didn't step up in a bigger way in a big league way. because we're facing what is clearly the most overtly racist candidate we have ever seen in our lifetime. somebody who makes no bones about talking about that. but if this does not -- god forbid it does not go hillary's way and america ends, as we watch, this will not be black voters' fault. it will be the fault of republican voters who supported trump. who the crazy republican primary audience got behind him. the rest of them came home instead of saying we need to put country ahead of party. this is a different election. this will be the fault of republican voters who have put other things ahead of what is best for the country. that is the problem. >> jason, you wrote a piece for the root that said don't start preblaming black america for this potential problem with black voting. explain. >> right. first off. i love the britney spears and beyoncè comparison. you don't have to be michael jordan. you can still be lebron. hillary clinton is not going to hit barack obama levels of black turn out. she doesn't have to. she has to do better than john kerry. what a lot of people don't remember, because it's the reverse, the reason obama had to do with black folks because white people weren't going to vote for him. he won the election with 38% of the white vote in 2012. that's not going to happen for hillary clinton. even if there's a slight dip in black voter turn out, black turn out has been increasing every year since 1984. she's probably make up it for white women that will vote for her. >> i want to go through a few stats. so you have, first of all, african-american research collaborative did a poll where they talk about voting right the and projections. black people that voted in the election 22% have already voted. in georgia 45%. in nevada 47%. black people who haven't voted but highly likely. look at the incredible numbers. 86% nationwide. 88% in georgia. 91% in pennsylvania. don't think we won't do it. let's go to the next set of data here. this is the enthusiasm, the poll by the same group enthusiasm of voting 2016 versus 2012. you can see enthusiasm was higher in 2012, however, when you asked what is the importance of the vote, that chart flips the other way around. if you look at that, the chart is actually reversed. the people believe it's much more important to vote this year. so black people may not be -- that's the reverse chart. black people may not be beyoncè levels of "lemonade." >> yeah. look, i think, you know, coming from the campaign side of this stuff, i think the ground game is going to make this happen. right. i think black voters understand the importance of this election and they will. we still have three more days. right. i think they will absolutely come out to vote. in the fact we're blaming black people for the numbers now, we should be looking at republicans. republicans have systemically tried to take away the voting rights of african-americans. of people of color. and we see that with these voter suppression laws. i think they need to look in the mirror whoever the republicans out there saying, yeah, you know, black folks are not coming out to vote. and that just is not the case. >> i want to get counter point in here, rick. we have the conversation all the time. on the other hand, it is the democrat's job to get the african-american vote out not just with the mechanics of voter turn out, but also with presenting a case that compels black voters. make your case, sir >>well, you're absolutely right. let me make one point, joy. in 2008, there was a big differential what i call the iq. the inspiration you shent. it was vastly different when barack obama ran. so i think we have to be kind of clear in comparing hillary clinton and barack obama. she's not barack obama. it is different this time around because of the historical nature of the 2008 election. now the other part that i think is critical, and i just left four battle ground states. pennsylvania, ohio, north carolina, and florida. one of the things i'm hearing more than anything is that black voters want to know that their vote investment counts. they want to know the policy bit of this. for -- they want a return on their vote. and it's particularly an area of economic. we talk about pain in the rust belt. we talk about the pain in the middle class. that's pain in the black community. there's pain in the black belt. black people want to know that there are going to be jobs coming. they want to know there's investment 2 investment in our communities not just from government but private sector. they want to know they can buy and afford homes. what is interesting hillary clinton has one of the most comprehensive economic revitallization campaigns i've seen. a lot of people don't know about. i think at the end of the day african-americans are going to vote. i'm not concerned about this blame game despite early vote numbers. we're coming to the polls on tuesday. the concern i have is will we stay in line? i'm saying people, elderly and others and young millennial's who are just witnessing and, you know, this line issue. and they're leaving. we can't afford to leave. we got to stay in line and vote. we're going to turn out. >> i was going to say i remember that in 2012 where people had to -- we had to really reach out to folks and say stay online. stay online. especially in florida, in particular, and it was, you know, there were long lines. it was not easy to get through the lines. it was really encouraging. i have to say i would be concerned about that. >> but the point you start to make before what was important. what impact is voter id, voter right suppression, these sorts of things having what is going on. maybe we won't find out until after wards and explains the north carolina cost 200,000 votes or whatever it is. donald trump has been saying sup pre suppress the vote in certain areas. >> right. >> so the government, in some ways, has left us alone not protecting our vote. that's an important part of. >> jason, on what rick said the underlying issue. is there something compelling you to stay? line policy based on the part of the clinton campaign. you were nodding. >> a lot of this campaign, let's be honest. a lot of people don't like hillary clinton. a lot of people don't like donald trump and the concern about hillary clinton, is they don't know she's necessarily going to be empathetic enough. when we talk about is there going to be a policy thing? that doesn't matter as much because i don't think anyone necessarily believes that our material benefits in life are going to change that hillary clinton administration. black people know it will get worse under a trump administration. i can say this as a political scientist. this may be the first election in american history where somebody wins where people vote against the other guy. >> let me ask you, rick. you said on the other side hillary clinton has a comprehensive plan that is actually proactively good for african-americans. do you agree with jason johnson there is no pro-clinton sentiment among african-americans? >> i think there's a lot of pro-sentiment among african-americans. people want tangible benefits. i've seen it all over the country. it's something i'm passionate about. they want to know their lives are going to get better. they want to know folks are trying to pay their bills. it goes on and on. the recovery for african-americans has been very slow into a lot of communities there's been no recovery. they want to know their live the will be better. the other thing i hear is accountability. i talk to a lot of music executives. when barack obama ran in 2008 we had so many artists involved in the campaign. they want accountability. they want to know at the end of the day if we stand with secretary hillary clinton, which we will, is she going to stand with us. they want to know a tangible indication that's going to happen. >> yeah. [ talking over each other ] >> talking about economic issues, but you can't pay your bills if you are dead or if you're dealing with trauma because your son is dead. only one candidate is talking about systemic racism in regard to the policing violence crisis. only one candidate is meeting with black lives matter. those are incredibly important issues for black people we should say, hey, this is a candidate who is clearly supporting us on one of the biggest problems we have in america. >> absolutely. we're out of time. thank you very much. we're going to have you back for an after action review. donald trump would have to win all the swing states and that would still not be enough. i will explain next. can't get enough of "a.m. joy" i'll be back for a special edition. chris hayes and ari will continue it. ♪ ♪ style lets you stand out from the herd. what's inside sets you apart. the cadillac escalade. enjoy our best offers of the year. 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>> it's one of the most complicated places in the country. it's hypercompetitive. this is a typical florida election. right now republicans and democrats early votes out of 5.8 million are separated by 10,000 votes. the good news is -- and president obama coming here has made a huge difference. on wednesday 40% of the voters who voted early on wednesday were either black or hispanic. as long as it keeps going in this direction we'll be in good shape by tuesday. >> i want to go through the maps quickly. all of them have florida in the mix in terms of being a state that looks like it is still open. the cnbc map shows hillary clinton at 274. but it shows that all of those battle ground states that are left open, including florida, even if trump won them all, he would still lose. let's go to the next one which is the 538 map which gives 64-38% and cooke political report. it's showing the same thing. florida there in yellow meaning it's still a toss up state. even if trump won it it would be tough he's at 214 votes. and clinton is at 278. let's go to larry sabino's critical vote. steve, is florida still a crucial swing state if in all of these configurations trump continues to lose? >> there's two conversations. first of all, if he can win the presidency. i think it's cooke. hillary clinton is going to be the next president. it's critical for him and hillary clinton to guarantee a nicer night and ensures trump won't be president. >> let's go to nevada. it's getting a lot of people talking. the polling in nevada shows some different things. there's a cnn poll that came out earlier this week that showed trump not just ahead but ahead by six percentage points. at the same time we know that, according to nevada's registered hispanic voters are 72-19 trump. can both of those be true. >> of course that cnn poll cannot be true. it had all kinds of problems with the internals of that poll. let's go by real votes. early voting in nevada yesterday there was a huge surge of voting. record turn out in clarke county, which is las vegas. the democrats had their biggest margin ever in terms of ballots. there was an incredible scene at a hispanic supermarket where the line just kept growing as if organically we saw the numbers the democrats added a thousand plus votes. it's more than 72,000 ballot lead for the democrats in clarke county which is democratic. let me quickly put it in perspective. last presidential cycle that lead was 71,000. at the end of early voting barack obama won the state by seven points. the math does not work for donald trump. he could come here tonight, as you said, to reno and get to every home in reno and rural nevada and still wouldn't be enough. >> and what percentage do you think the vote will be banked by tuesday, john? >> well, it looks like it's fairly similar to 2012, joy, in which nearly 70% of people voted. 70% before election day. maybe slightly under that this time. maybe just two-thirds. but there's not going to be enough votes out there to change whatever happens in early voting. all the private data. the polling done by people who really know what they're doing show hillary clinton winning the state. >> let's go to the state that is giving donald trump's fans a little bit more hope. that's the state of ohio. my friend nina turner on the ohio polling shows trump ahead in that race. the quinnipiac poll has him up 46-41. johnson cratered a little bit. you have the senate race looking like it's pretty much a lock for the republicans. is ohio going to be able to be turned? they're throwing the kitchen sink at it on the democratic side. can it be turned around at this point? >> well, they are, "joy" joy. and the whole knock and drag, i'm not sure. but keeping it in perspective. yes, the president won the state of ohio both times, as we know in '08 and 2012 and secretary clinton won the primary in the state in '08 and also in 2016. so the state is very much familiar with secretary clinton and the democrats. the white house win winning the great state of ohio. >> does it matter to donald trump's prospects if the governor of your state john kasich is steadfastly anti-trump. refused to get on board and the trump campaign is feuding with the ohio republican party. does that matter in terms of the ground game? >> not necessarily. i mean, our governor kasich showed great integrity throughout the election cycle. heaven when officen the stage, by far, he was the best republican on the stage out of the 17 republicans. not necessarily, joy. but even beyond this election cycle, we got to get people excited about voting every single election cycle. democrats would not have their hair on fire now, so to speak, even though the electoral map shows clearly that the rods in the favorite of the secretary. you have to make sure that you're organizing and mobilizing all the time. joy, i'm a big voting rights advocate. i want to see these concerts and people jumping up-and-down and getting people out to vote in the midterms, as well. behave lost so much ground in this country not necessarily at the presidency but on the state level of government. we got to do a better job of getting people out to vote every single election. >> amen. won't that be nice. let's go to wisconsin. let's go to wisconsin where we have, also, sort of a key block at the moment republicans claiming they can turn the state of wisconsin, i believe is only gone for republicans. i want to say it's 84 or 88 in the last many, many, many election cycles. is there a reason for republicans to feel hopeful about flipping the state of wisconsin? >> i don't know, joy. i mean, we delivered governor walker one of the few defeats he's had when we got the early vote restrictions they put in place declared unconstitutional in federal court. as a result wisconsin shattered early vote records. madison, where i'm talking to you from broke the early vote record about a week and a half ago. we've seen hillary clinton is doing well in the polls. she's 6% ahead. donald trump has been -- there's about a 15% gender gap. hillary clinton i are is even in the right wing suburban milwaukee counties and donald trump is at zero when it comes to african-american voters. and i don't mean 0%. in the last poll he had zero african-american voters. meanwhile here, you know, the dense turn out operation is fully in place. joe biden did an event in madison yesterday to a packed house, and at the same time scott walker was tweeting as an elected official he had eaten 19,000 ham and cheese sandwiches. so as they say, chew on that. >> does it mean much that paul ryan had the weird kind of unpleasant embrace with donald trump where he voted for him. he's in his corner but doesn't want to be seen with him. he'll only be seen with his running mate. the head of the republican national committee has become a side kick to the republican nominee >>well, it's only in the last week that paul ryan and ron johnson, our u.s. senator have been willing to be on a stage with donald trump. to show you how tone deaf the trump campaign is, they'll beholding a rally with donald trump tomorrow about 20 minutes before the packers play at lambeau. the idea they understand the state is belied by that. expect a huge turn out on the democratic side. as you said, wisconsin has been a blue state since '88. >> yeah. i'm stole, scot that event has been cancelled now. the event is not going to happen. i want to give you an prognostication who wins the state. if there's a big senate race who do you think wins? who do you think wins on the presidential level and senate level? >> on the senate level it looks like senator portman is going to win. notwithstanding the strong fight that governor strictland has given. and, joy, ohio is so hard right now. it's going to be hard for me to say on that one. >> yeah. john. >> yeah, clinton is going to win the state, joy. it will be a miracle if trump wins. i don't see it happening. the senate race, you know, in 2012 heller overcame the blue wave and ended up winning in a close race. joe has his work cut out for him. a high hispanic turn out. the fact he has -- the trump and okay maybe i'll vote for him. i think that probably hurt him. i don't think it's impossible for him to win but i consider it highly unlikely. >> steve, what do you think about florida? rubio and clinton versus trump? >> well, first of all, florida is going to be more diverse than 2012. turn out will be closer to '08 than 2012. hillary clinton is going to win florida as long as it keeps going this direction. i think by about two points. i think patrick will come close. the national democrats are going to reget walking away from here. >> yeah. i think that's the considered the big miss of the year if you wind up losing by that little bit. scot? does hillary clinton win your state? >> yeah, i think that democrats haven't lost senate election in a presidential year since 1980. i think russ fine gold gets over the finish line ahead. and i think that hillary is going to win and barack obama won wisconsin by 220,000 votes in 2012. i think hillary beats that. >> thank you very much. thank you very much. coming up at noon what to make of the tightening polls. is this a natural swing or is the fbi letter from last week having an impact? first, more "a.m. joy" after the break. ne of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. breo contains a type of medicine that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop breo and prescribe a different asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. do not take breo more than prescribed. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. ask your doctor if 24-hour breo could be a missing piece for you. see if you're eligible for 12 months free at mybreo.com. be sure to tune in tomorrow to "a.m. joy" to see my interview with documentary film maker michael moore about his new film "michael moore in trumpland." could it make a difference just before the election? that's tomorrow. up next with my panel, who won the week? it's time for my favorite question. who won the week. back with me,caray. >> sorry, jason. >> now i feel bad for jason. i was going to go to karim first. jason, who won the week. you getting to first now. >> you know, i've got to say, who won the week. republicans in ohio. there's a great story in "discover" magazine that says if a home team wins a championship within ten days of an election, it drives upturnout. it's highly unlikely. and ohio may still stay in the right-hand column. >> i'm going to text jamele smith right now. that is some backdoor, background shade against the cleveland fans. i was rooting for the cubs. but that was shade. let's come over here. >> kay caray. oh, man. just when i thought i had my own identity. >> jason feeling he can throw that kind of shame. i'm texting jamele right now. go ahead. i'm going to listen to what you say. >> i have a few. number one, the republicans -- the never trump trumpers in florida. there was that florida survey from target smart that showed 28% of republicans were crossing over, right? >> do you believe it? >> i don't know. look, i'm not sure. but if it holds, that will be phenomenal, right? that would be higher -- like double the amount for john kerry and obama in that state. so i thought that was a great one. and then latinos. look, donald trump was right. there was going to be a wall that was going to be built in election, and the latinos being that firewall. >> amen. >> for hillary clinton. so i think i'm going to stick with those two. one more. president obama. this is -- this is a guy who is supposed to be in a lame duck, where people are supposed to be running away from him, the nominee. and here he is, he's a rock star. more people coming to his rallies. if he is going to basically help deliver this race for hillary clinton. >> i hear that. but i really struggled with this question of who won the week, because i think it was a bad week for everybody, or almost everybody. >> for the universe? >> certainly in the entire political universe. so i said the cubs won the week. because -- >> oh! >> they gave us this joy, this break from this terrible election. >> yeah. >> terrible. >> and they won with style, but made all of chicago have a heart attack before they actually got it done. >> they d. >> you know, the game seven was one of the great baseball games i've ever seen. so, you know, shoutout to the cubs. i mean, such a sympathetic choice, because of the cubs, because of the length of time they have suffered. chicago is a great town. and because they did not have a completely racist logo that is insane in 2016. that that is okay. >> you're absolutely right. i totally agree with that. i think the cubs did give america that needed -- >> exactly. >> that moment of something beautiful that happened, right? >> the summer olympics. >> no love for cleveland at all. >> no, jason. i'm going to give some love to cleveland right now. because last night, jay-z and beyonce showed in cleveland, and they actually gave back life to that city. and to the clinton campaign, potentially, in ohio. we can't play it. they were really amazing. so in response to that, my who won the week is going to be rappers like luther campbell. the reason i say that, it's going to be rappers with dirty lyrics won the week. this was donald trump's reaction to the fabulous, amazing mini concert that was put on by jay-z and beyonce last night in cleveland, which gave cleveland back life. this was donald trump's reaction. >> we don't need jay-z to fill up arenas, you know. we do it the old fashioned way. we do it the old fashioned way, folks. we fill them up because you love what we're saying and you want to make america great again. that's about it. and i actually like jay-z. but, you know, the languages last night. he used every word in the book. i won't even use the initials, because i'll get in trouble. they'll get me in trouble. >> now, donald trump has a problem with jay-z's language, okay? because j zhe is a hip-hop guy. i want to remind america, the guy who has a problem with jay-z's language, this is his language. >> automatically reacted to to beautiful -- kissing them. it's like a magnet. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> jay-z has said a lot of things in his songs, but he's never said that, donald trump. and by the way, this is the exact same week that luther campbell, who was the first person that i interviewed for my daily beast column. and actually was sympathetic to some of the economic arguments made by donald trump. came out this week, and did an interview, and it was reprinted in xxl, in which he recalled going to a party at donald trump's house back in the day that was so wild -- >> no. >> he had to leave. he was there with mike tyson, eddie murphy and others, and luke says in this article, he says in this article -- uncle luke says that he thinks it's quite rich that people who complained about his language back in the day, have a problem with him, have a problem with people like jay-z, but don't have a problem with donald trump's potty mouth. >> we should perhaps talk to melania, who wants to have this campaign against cyber bullying, which she can begin at home, at the dinner table. the cognitive dissidents. are you aware of what your husband is doing? he is the number one internet troll in america right now. >> we have to go. karim john pierre, jason johnson and uncle luke. thank you for joining us. i'll be back tonight at 6:00 p.m. for a special edition of "p.m. joy." my guests, avengers director, josh weeden, who created some of the best political ads this season, and alex witt takes a closer look at the electoral math. is there any reasonable path to 270 for donald trump? more news at the top of the hour. good day, everyone. i'm alex witt here in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it is high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. three days to rewriting history. election day 2016. >> we will make america strong again.

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