Good morning and welcome to am joy coming to you live from Independence Hall in philadelphia on the eve of the democratic convention. Hillary introduced her running mate on saturday. Tim kaine put to rest the idea he is boring. He came and fired up the owd in a 40minute speech talking passionately about where clinton should be president and telling his own life story and frequently switching from english to spanish. And trump weighed in on the pick on meet the press this morning. Hundreds of thousands of dollars, the other thing about him, hes bought and owned by the banks. And the third thing, hes in favor of tpp and every other trade deal that hes ever looked at. Msnbc kasie hunt joins me live from the convention site. What is the lay of the land this morning . Reporter good morning. The balloons are stored in the ceiling here at the Wells Fargo Center in philadelphia as democrat are ready for this. But there are a couple of things showing a few shadows on what is going on. This dnc leak, all of these emails from the dnc, the party grappling with that right now, trying to figure out how to make sure they plaque ant sanders supports who feel like this is further proof that the system is rigged against them. That is one challenge. And the question whether Debbie Wasserman schultz will have a role after the convention, and it is looking less likely that is the case. And Bernie Sanders supporters are saying they approve of media reports that say that she will have a diminished role. There is Bernie Sanders supporters coming out to criticize Hillary Clinton over her choice of tim kaine saying he is not progressive enough. But i have to tell you i was in the room last night yesterday, i should say, yesterday afternoon, when tim kaine was formally introduced and the Clinton Campaign could not feel better about how the rollout of his Vice President ial pick went. They feel like it was a very clear contrast with how donald trump selected mike pence and how that rollout went. It was very buttoned down. They were eager to kind of explain us to the secretive details of how john pedesta and others snuck to rhode island and ferried him to florida before anybody found out before they wanted people to find out and kaine making a strong debut on stage in florida with clinton. The two of them seeming to have very Good Chemistry on stage. Kasie hunt, we appreciate it. And our democratic strategist and white house aid keith boykin and Howard Fineman. And good morning, everybody, thank you for being here. And we have to talk about the dnc scandal first. We cant avoid it. Chief, we know, according to the hill, that Debbie Wasserman schultz wont be speaking but chef a primary coming up in august and how damaging is the leak of the emails that shows that the dnc was talking shade or throwing shade at the Sanders Campaign. I think it is an unforced error. I think it is unnecessary. I remember when i worked with mike dukakis, never write anything down on paper you dont want to see on the front of the New York Times. Ive been saying to the sanders team, this is not a rigged system and we have evidence that the system is rigged. That doesnt mean that sanders would have won either way. But just the idea this was a completely unnecessary thing for the Democratic Party to do. And to write it down in email. And not only to write it down but to write down things that are offensive. One of the leaks was about an email in which sanders is not mentioned by name but someone at the dnc said can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in god . My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a difference between the jew and and atheist. How is there not upset over that. I think people should have been time. And even Debbie Wasserman schultz on paper chair is over. I spoke with one of the leaders in the Democrat National chair house and i said do you think debb Debbie Wasserman schultz will remain very long as the chair of the dnc and he said i dont like her chances. So whoever else is going to be fired, but Wasserman Schultz will be fired. It is rare that someone who is the chair continues on. That was never going to happen. But she has a chance of lasting until the end of the year and i think that is over. And it is difficult. And she has the reelect coming up. And marshall said the comments do not reflect his comments. That is one of those apologies. That carries a lot of weight. You have to apologize. And i would be concerned that the Bernie Sanders campaign when he said she was on his target list, they start inundating her opposition with funding. I think this is now an opportunity for her, that her seat is going to be at stake because once again all bernie has to send a raise money for the other guy, and shes done. And we talked to our political director about these when they were bubbling up in the news and some of the emails were sent on the day that Bernie Sanders said that he wanted to support her primary opposition. Lets play Bernie Sanders reaction to the leaks from wikileaks. Take a listen. This does not come as a shock to me or my supporters. There is no question but the dnc was on secretary clintons side from day one and we all know that. And i think, as ive said a long time ago, that the time is now for Debbie Wasserman schultz to step aside, not only for these issues. And we should note that the Clinton Campaign did issue a statement. Their reaction and they have said that sanders ran an extraordinary hardfought Campaign Based on real vigorous and contested primary and as far as bernie, that is a question for Debbie Wasserman schultz and added this is further evidence that the russian government is trying to influence the election. That second part is interesting. I want to get to that. But no back up for debbie Debbie Wasserman at all. And the idea she was leaving is not a big surprise. But it is something that needs to happen for the party in order to have some sort of sense of unity to move forward at this convention. And to have a good start of the convention. And to demonstrate that the system is not rigged. And that is the biggest factor they have to confront. And nobody is going up to bats there is a long time fraction and this is something people are talking about. Go ahead. Deb Debbie Wasserman was trying to prove her werth to the clintons but they overdid it, as that email shows. Quickly i want to ask about the russian, because wikileaks, assange, there is a weikileaks and released personal information and not cool. But with you know that trump and putin are simpatico. That is worrisome. That is separate from the content of the emails. Sure. But yes, it is an interesting wrinkle and knowing some history as i do, it was always the republicans who were accusing the democrats of fealty to the Old Soviet Union and now you have the democrats accusing trump of tieing to the russians and the fact is trump never got money from the new york banks and then he got money from the chinese and now getting money from other russian shady characters. We have to talk about that. But i want to talk about tim kaine. And i have to ask you this question. I want to play tim kaine going into spanish. Im jealous his spanish is way better than mine. But lets listen to him do it in miami. [ speaking in a Foreign Language ] okay. Ive been dying to ask you this question because every time ive heard tim kaine pitch over the last several months and it has included he could speak spanish. Im tickled by it. Is this something that delighted people more than having an actual latino person to put on the ticket. It is so delightful that he could flow into spanish. I dont think it is offensive at all. Normally, yes. But after the republican stage last week, where latinos were basically being beaten up one after the other and the fact that this man recognized that we are american are refreshing and he says it in spanish is charming. But at the end of the day what he said underlined what the Latino Community believe is faith, family and hard work. He stressed it and emphasized it. And people get tired of touting out the three spanish words that you know but they have been so under attack, this is a refreshing point. And i talked to our key latino editors that said does he speak spanish. And the key rule for a politician is dont speak spanish unless you do it well. And he said he is impressively good in spanish. And for latino voices on your team and in columbia, we take great pride. Okay. Well be back later on in the show. But up next, and later on, well be joined by jeff weaver. 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And joining us now is april ryan and malcolm nance and Howard Fineman and steve clemens. Im going to steve. Because you are at the disadvantage and not hanging out with us. Soon ill be there. We miss you. Donald trump has put forth some ideas that have alarmed people, the idea of walking away from nato or the notion that the United States would not fully back nato. When you combine that with his real affinity it seems to be for putin and for russia, what do you make of all of that . Well, it is sort of like hug your rivals and scare your friends. If donald trump were to win the presidency, he would have a International Crisis of trust from our allies from day one. And they talk as if we are a hessians or mers onary force out for the big bidder. And for clarification. Japan pays. Many other neighbors are in Mutual Alliance but japan pays more host nation support for u. S. Forces stationed in japan than any other and he seems to be devoid of understanding the National Security reality out there. And he does seem to look at nato as a transaction. How much money are people putting in. They need to pay more. He looks at it as if it is a business and which is why the government is not run as a business. The New York Times did an interview with donald trump and this is what he was asked. They asked him, the Editorial Board, could the members of nato including those new members in the baltics, count on the United States if they were attacked by russia. Have they fulfilled their obligations to us . What does that mean. I dont know. Because ive never heard a president ial candidate advocate extortion as a security policy. On the morning of 9 11 i was outside of the pentagon and i saw a airplane fly into a building and kill people. We were disheartened. Next morning nato invoked article five against the defense of the United States and sent their troops to afghanistan for ten years where they lost their soldiers. Debt paid. No one should be having this conversation about possibly scaring our allies into ponying up more money. It is disrespectful and shows he doesnt understand what a treaty is. And he has set up the democrats for, like perfect seamless response to. I want to play tim kaine talking about nato but in very personal terms. Take a listen. In just a few days, hes deploying to europe to uphold americas commitment to our nato allies. Nearly 2 million men and women put their lives on the line for this country. They deserve a commanderinchief with the experience and the temperament to lead. What does donald trump say about these great americas, these 2 million. He repeatedly calls the american military, quote, a disaster. And just this week, donald trump said that as president , he would consider turn america back on our decadesold commitments to our allies. And hes talking about his son nat in the opening, going over to europe and deploying soon. Could the democrats take advantage of this. The democrats could definitely take advantage of this in philadelphia and beyond. And we have to remember, this man, donald trump will be getting, if he hasnt already, he is starting to get intelligence information from those in this country who deal with intelligence he gets National Security briefings. Not one. But he continues, after he accepted that nomination. Now here is the problem. He is looking at this as a business transaction, landlord and tenant. It is not that. This is decades old. And this is an alliance to protect many countries that russia wants to put their hands on that could cause more terrorism. Donald trumps alliance could be a problem as it relates to his numbers when it comes to intelligence and the democrats have a chance to pounce on this and really show who is the novice, versus who has been here before. Howard, have you ever seen anything like this . This combination of things, prorussia and putin and treating it as a business transaction, is there a precedent for this . Yes. In broad political terms there is. In the dynamics of politics you have to go back to 1964, which i did not personally cover. But you heard about. But that i read about. The democrats attacked barry goldwater, in a similar way outside of the box, frank speaking and republican candidate. Instead, this guy is going to blow up the world and they did that famous daisy ad with the Mushroom Cloud and diplomatically this would be a mushroom crowd with a president who views nato as a new jersey protection scheme. You pay me the money and maybe well protect you. It doesnt work like that. And trump wants to say one outrageous thing after another. And he just wants to get clicks and eyeballs on twitter. Stop it. Youre the republican nominee. As april said, you are getting security briefings. In theory you could be president of the United States. Stop trying to shock the world with outrageous statements. Shock and awe. You have the nomination. Calm the heck down. But you has no concept of what a treat kwi is. Everything for donald trump is a real estate transaction where you threaten to walk away from the table every second. That is not how you conduct diplomacy or the world. And ill give steve the last word because im sure people around the world are quite alarmed by what they are hearing from donald trump. I dont believe everything that tom cotton said, he said when deterrence is lost High School Hard to rebuild that again. He is a huge support of nato and integrating with nato nations and said that is part and partial why america is such an important bulkhead of security in the world and why that alliance is so important. He supports donald trump. And what donald trump is doing is, by his words, by threatening the alliance and creating doubts in allies that will be with them in their time of need, donald trump is undermining deterrence on his own and i think it is something that the people out there that are weighing support of donald trump need to look at. Because this is not just a t