Including ray mckesson who has become a voice for the black lives Matter Movement. They returned to the streets following an emotionally and distressed video after back to back killings in the hands of police and following a lone gunman that left five dead. Good morning. Im joy reid and this is am joy. We are following the guidelines among policing, politics and race. The worst attack on Law Enforcement in our history and in our country since 9 11. We echo the words of president obama yesterday when he stated that because black lives matter, it does not mean blue lives do not matter. This was a nonviolent, peaceful protest, intended to bring about a better world. I do blame former black lives matter protest, last night was peaceful but others have not been. Members of black lives matter are refusing to be drawn into the blame game. They will hold two marched today in d. C. To protest the Police Shooting death of alton sterling, Philando Castile and others. And a separate prayer vigil are planned. The vigil at africanamerican war memorial in our capital. And joining me is our guests. Thank you all for being here. Alicia, i will start with you. The idea that members of black lives matter are not backing down from these protests, we did see after two Police Officers were gunned down in new york the protests wain amid national calls to not do it out of respect for the death of the Police Officers. Why are these marches, in your view, Going Forward today. I think they are Going Forward because i think the movement owe moves on and carries on. It is impossible to grieve the loss of life and to also fight for the system and the society that we deserve to see. And i think youve been seeing that over the last couple of days. And we do have some new on air to play for our viewers and our panel. We received from kare, the affiliate in nbc, and this is the scanner audio of the police stop from Philando Castile and his girlfriend pulled over resulting in his shooting death. I want to play the first part of the scanner audio that talks about why Police Officers in their view were stopping the two. Please listen. [ inaudible ]. The two occupants just looked like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, because of the live [ inaudible ]. Tamika, i dont know how well you could hear the audio and the officer said they look like a couple of robbery suspects saying the driver looks like one of our suspects, just because of the wideset nose. Yesterday we talked about falcon height wheres this stop took place, it is a predominantly white area and a suburb of st. Paul, what do you make of that. It sounds like Trayvon Martin all over again. We are looking at people and deciding that just because of your makeup and the fact that your skin is black, which is ultimately the discussion that needs to be had, that you somehow are a criminal and our Police Officers have that mentality at times as well as citizens, just people like george zimmerman. So were in a society where the black life is in danger at all times because people have preconceived ideas which stem from systemic racism that exists and puts our lives in jeopardy and in danger all of the time. And matt, when we heard about the fill ando kist helcastillo pulling them over it was said to be because of a broken taillight and the photos casting doubt, quite frankly, on whether or not there was a broken taillight but that is what they were being told they are being stopped for. And what do we make that they were being false identified as robbery suspects and that might have been the reason for the it doesnt change one iota the lousy conduct of the police men at the scene. If you watch the video and watch the aftermath, a man bleeding to death and people consoling the police and not the family that has been brutalized. So i see some people using this as an excuse. Saying there is more justification. It is not just that. The conduct in the moment. One of the great tragedies of in week is that the Dallas Police department was the target of executio executionstyle murder. Dallas is leading the country in these type of reforms about deescalating use of force moments and not have the itchy trigger finger. So this does nothing to the fact that the conduct of the police at the moment was just abysmal. And i want to put one more piece of the scanner on the air, this is the first time we are playing it on our air but the next set of audio that you will hear is the officers calling in the fact that this shooting had taken place. Take a listen. Shots fired. [ inaudible ]. You just heard it . You just heard the shots fired . [ inaudible ]. Copy, shots fired. Do you need medics . [ inaudible ]. Copy one female taken into custody, driver at gunpoint and you could hear the level of adrenalin you could hear in the call and in just watching the video that was live streamed on facebook by the girlfriend of Philando Castile, you saw how terrified the Police Officers seems. And when we thought this was a stop about a broken taillight, it was out of balance because the idea is all of these contacts are coming with people i mean this gentleman himself, castille, had been stopped 56 times for violations and wracked up 6,000 in hawk to the state when you talked about, matt, this overcontact with people as a way to sort of use citizens as a piggy bank and he was subjected to that. So what does this tell you, the number one and the level of fear that officers are exhibiting toward an africanamerican man and woman and number two, the number of times that Philando Castile had been stopped and now them being branded a suspect just because essentially they were two black people in a majority white neighborhood. We had this conversation two years ago with ferguson and one of the things that we learned there or those paying close attention to this, in too many communities, especially poor communities, but the locals are being used as a cash cow for Police Departments who have power to seize your stuff and take it and pocket it themselves even if you havent committed a crime. The incentives in the power structure take race out tv and just talk about the power that local police have, it is a great way for people who are actually racist to advance themselves. But more importantly it is about how people can abuse power at the hands of the least vulnerable in society and those are the reformers we need to go after and sadly i think this week has killed federal criminal Justice Reform which had looked so promising six months ago. Go ahead. And the same thing applies here in new york city where you are dealing with broken window policies and that is why activists are adamant in dealing with the mayor and the Police Commission to stop that policy from being in place and it puts police overpolicing communities like cigarettes and celling cds and not police work and building relationships rather than stopping people for small infractions which is not happening in other communities. Where folks may be doing the same things, riding bicycles on street on sidewalks, not wearing helmets, those type of things but they are not getting the tickets. In our community, Little Things and we are constantly being overpoliced and that is an issue but we deal with the situation with the mayor and the Police Commissioner say we are crazy and we need to have decency for Police Officers and not look where it needs to be for us, those being oppressed. And there is a certain irony, i would say, in members of the government calling upon citizens who are members of black lives matter or affiliated with groups that associate themselves with hashtag black lives matter to stand down in protesting of what is abuse by the government because the police at the end of the day are the government. I think that is right. An it is a huge contradiction. On the one hand, were saying we want to stop the loss of life. But certainly it seems like were valuing in lives over others. Even in situations like this. I dont recall ever hearing, right, a call for police to stand down when on the other ends of their guns are poor black and brown people. So we have to be clear again that in order for us to value all life equally, we need to treat it equally. And that bhemeans, there are mag sure there are consequences when Police Officers kill in our clients in manners that are unjustified which means sure that we are rightsizing funding for policing and making sure it is rightsized up against programs and services needed in our communities to address problems. And we also need to make sure, again, that there is some oversight by communities of policing and Police Officers. And matt, one of the other ironies of tragic irony of what were seeing come out of minneapolis and baton rouge and dallas is that youve also had a lot of agreement, i think less right or libertarian or less agreement that the police are also over they have more equipment than they need and it is incredibly militaryistic. They are tanks and armor and implements of urban warfare but also incredibly outgunned in a lot of cases by an individual like a trained military a militarytrained sniper who could get on a roof and cut down 12 people. So you have this sort of how do we answer that dichotomy. The police are overequipped and underequipped, i think the police are outgunned very rarely. Remember the Hollywood Bank heist and we saw video of them holding the s. W. A. T. And land f and lapd for hours and that plus 9 11 which created programs of weapons transfers. It is really rare for there to be a criminal training with weaponry that outstrips the local police weaponry. I dont think that happens very often. What happens weve used the phrase military of police and watching the post, they have written books about this, and you hear complained about that term from the military because they say we have use of force regulations here and were conscious about the way that we use these things. A lot of times local Police Departments aren departments arent as welltrained as the military is, which is a terrible irony. We have to get rid of the us versus them. And this exists in police and in protesters where people were hucking re bar at cops. The president said this morning and he is right before this, if you are going to demonize police youre going to lose an argument and you will be wrong so we have to be careful what we talk about and identify what we could change which is the power structures that you could talk about and what dumb laws shouldnt be used to shakedown communities. And i think also the president said something that is very important. It is good for police for there to be Better PoliceCommunity Regulations and safer for the Police Officers and the community so we all have an interest in fixing this and ensuring, not saying we want Police Officers to die, we just want to stop black men and women from dying. Indeed. And alicia garza, what should we look to see from the black lives Matter Movement in the coming weeks . I think what well continue to see is folks marching, protesting, and organizing for a better world. And well start to see more clear articulation of what we want to see and how we think we get there. And again i think it is the three points. It is the issue of rightsizing funding for policing and in particular for the weapons that they are using in our communities. It is also absolutely about accountability and transparency. We cannot continue to have People Killed and have there be no consequences. And then finally, i think it is absolutely about making sure that there is oversight. That the police are not policing themselves. That there is a coming together of those who are protecting and serving communities being accountable to the communities that they serve. I think that could get us a long way. Thank you all on that. Well be back on the show. Thank you. Well have you back and again if you will be so good as to come back. Thank you. Stay right there. Well have the latest on the investigation out of dallas, next. Take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. 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Lets get the latest on the investigation out of dallas with nbcs Tammy Lightner who is on the scene. Tammy, what is going on where you are . Reporter im about two blocks from where the actual shooting happened and this entire area is still shut down. This is the dallas Area Business district. It is essentially the heart of dallas. People cannot come or go. I do have good news today. Another Police Officers has been released from the hospital. Her name is misty mcbride, she is a dart officer and shes been with the department for five years. The two other injured dart officers were previously released, that is omar cannon and jesus quintana. And all three dart officers have been released from the hospital. There are still other dallas Police Officers hospitalized and as you could imagine, emotions are high out there and yesterday there was a moment when things were tense outside of the police headquarters. There was a report of a suspicious person and we were out there and we saw all of the officers get into a position and they were focused on the a parking garage and they searched on foot with canine and helicopter and in the end they didnt find a suspicious person. But as you could imagine, emotions are high and things are tense and obviously there are fear among mongs people of a cop fear amongst people of a copycat. Thank you for joining us. And now to jacob rascon at the community headquarters. How is the community coping with all that has occurred. Reporter they are really conflicted. Weve seen dozens upon dozens of people come to the memorial and we know from the notes and flowers that many hundreds of people have come since the shooting started. Most of them dont know the officers or the protesters. They simply feel the pain, they say, of the communities. And they are conflicted because the heart goes out to the africanamerican. One woman said i cant imagine what they go through on a day to day basis when they feel they are slighted by in some way by officers. But then on the other hand, their heart is grieving and in tears for the Law Enforcement here. And they say they are really devastated and disappointed about all of the hate they are seeing. And then they come out here and see the outpouring of support and it is overwhelming for those who have come. Weve seen today boy scout troops come out. Weve seen others from churches come out and they pray and leave flowers and the officers who are here as well just standing outside sort of guarding this area, you could tell that they are a little overwhelmed too. You could see the pain on their faces. I talked to some of them. One of them told me, we dont hear every day that people appreciate us and this is a bit overwhelming for us to see. There is a lot going on here and a lot of people who again were strangers and feel more connected to the community and lawmaker. Thank you very much. Jacob rascon in dallas. And coming up, Hillary Clinton reaction to the tragedy is part of a long pattern and well show you that next. Before i had the shooting, burning of diabetic nerve pain, these feet learned the horn from my dad and played gigs from new york to miami. But i couldnt bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. So i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. Tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. Or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. Common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs, and feet. Dont drink alcohol while taking lyrica. 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