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a brand new investigation of the trump organization begins. >> who else knows that the president did this? >> then, a who's who look at the democrats' list of 81 trump targets. plus, is roger stone about to go to jail for an instagram post? >> oh, my god, i'm busted. >> and ilhan omar and the fault lines in the democratic party, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. the president is losing the battle for public opinion over his own guilt. a new quinnipiac poll finds that 64% of americans believe donald trump committed crimes before he became president. and many believe the president continued to engage in criminal activity from the oval office. 45% say that trump has committed crimes during his presidency. this despite trump and his allies insisting again and again ad nauseam that investigators are engaged in a mean-spirited witch hunt targeting an innocent and pure-hearted public servant. >> the witch hunt continues. the fact is that i guess we've got 81 letters. there was no collusion. that was a hoax. there was no anything. >> no anything. strong denial. at this point not a lot of people are willing to take his word for it. even former trump fixer michael cohen, a man who was literally convicted of lying to congress, has more credibility than the president. 50% of americans now say they believe cohen more than they believe trump. and despite trump's near constant effort to undermine robert mueller, a majority of americans believe he is conducting a fair investigation. mueller is just one of the president's problems. he also faces an ongoing and wide-ranging probe from the southern district of new york. just today we learned that this exchange between alexandria ocasio-cortez and the president's lawyer from last wednesday's oversight hearing is bearing fruit. >> to your knowledge did the president ever provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows that the president did this? >> allen weisselberg, ron lieberman and matthew calamari. >> and where would the committee find more information on this, do you think we need to review his financial statements and his tax returns in order to compare them? >> yes. and you'd find it at the trump org. >> tonight "the new york times" reports new york regulators have issued an expansive subpoena to the trump organization's long-time insurance broker, the first step in an investigation of insurance policies and claims involving trump's family business. meanwhile yesterday jerry nadler issued document requests, as the president mentioned, to 81 individuals and entities with a focus on investigating possible obstruction of justice, public corruption and abuses of power. adam schiff's intelligence committee is stepping up its investigation hiring among others former federal prosecutor daniel goldman who has overseen prosecutions of russian organized crime networks of t. maxim maxine walters is probing how deutsche bank loaned money to him and they are demanding documents in jared kushner's security clearance after the report trump overruled top officials and ordered them to give kushner a top-secret clearance despite the misgivings of intelligence agencies. the white house is refusing to hand over those documents but ultimately it may have no choice. democrats have the power of subpoena. then there's trump's tax returns. the one he would love to release if only that pesky audit would finally end. >> as i've told you, they're under audit, they have been for a long time. they're extremely complex. nobody would understand them. nobody turns over a return when it's under audit. >> the president really does seem opposed to releasing his tax returns. today "the washington post" reports democrats are seeking ten years of those returns in the coming weeks. trump is clearly feeling besieged. after meeting with the president this morning, senator lindsey graham said trump believes democrats are taking a wrecking ball to his life. at this point after literally thousands of lies, the president's credibility is so thoroughly shot that americans believe a convicted liar more than they believe him. and that means as the investigations continue, the president is going to have a pretty hard time convincing americans that all this is just, and i quote, presidential harassment. joining me now, dan kilde of michigan, a member of the house ways and means committee who is seeking ten years of the president's tax returns. congressman, can you tell me what the thinking is and where your committee is on that inquiry? >> well, our committee is very deliberate on this. we had a hearing to establish the legal authority to gain access to these returns. we've been creating a record as to why these returns are in the public interest. i think what president trump fears is not that people won't understand his tax returns, what he's really afraid of is that they will. we believe this is basic transparency. the president broke a half a century of norms by not releasing his tax returns. people don't take his word for it when they say he's done nothing wrong. they want to see the evidence. and i think they have a right to that. thisly an issue of transparency. >> there's the argument from kevin brady, who is the ranking member on your committee and others that this is a slippery slope. next thing you know this committee is nosing around everyone's tax returns to detonate political opponents. what's your response to that? >> this is a rarely used law on the books since the tea pot dome scandal. there's no slippery slope here. what is out of the norm is that the president of the united states, who committed to provide his returns, has broken with a half a century of tradition and transparency. that's what's out of sync with reality. and the fact that mr. brady, whom i respect but happen to disagree with on this, would point out that we are using the tool when the fact that we have to use it is because this president is so opaque when it comes to his personal interests. he continues to maintain, by the way, complete control over all of his financial holdings, another norm that has broken. he pushed through a tax law that significantly benefited real estate investors. he's one of them. the idea that this would be somehow out of bounds means that the law itself must not be valid. the reason that this law is in place is just for this circumstance. >> you know, this is part of a -- there's two sort of lines i've seen in the last few days, some from republicans who obviously have just a transactional interest in trying to beat back the democrats. but i've seen among pundits and conventional wisdom that democrats have to be careful, that this is risky territory, that they risk a backlash, they risk inciting the president's base. i wonder how much that resonates with you as someone who's at the center of that. is that how you're thinking about this politically? >> well, i think thinking about it politically is where we get into trouble, because what i fear is not upholding the oath of office that i swore. i said that i would uphold this constitution. and sometimes that means doing hard things. look, this isn't necessarily a popular thing to do among some and it's certainly going to be something that we are attacked for. but i don't think we have a choice. the american people elected us to do a job. i think it would be a mistake for us to try to overthink this. we should simply adhere to the oath that we swore and do the job that we were elected to do. that means revealing to the american people all the interests that this president will not reveal to them himself. >> you know, it's funny you say that because there's a story being told that the democrats are being pulled towards these inquiries by their base. i actually think that story gets it wrong. i think by and large the base is motivated about other things. there's a lot of focus on the mueller report. what you're telling me, you're just basically saying you literally feel a sense of duty and obligation to do this even if the politics of it are bad? >> for sure, chris. every time i walk into the u.s. capitol, i'm awed by it and i realize the responsibility that i have. and what i say to my republican colleagues, who seem to be so willing to defend this president no matter what he does is that they should think about the institution, they should think about what it means to our democracy, but they should especially think about how the long view of history is going to measure them in this moment. i do not want nor should they want to have been a member congress who looked the other way when a president of the united states stomped all over the rule of law and the basic institutions that have held our democracy together for two centuries. >> all right, congressman dan kilde, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, chris. more on the situation the president finds himself in. i'm joined by cornell belche rechlt and msnbc political analyst michelle goldberg, columnist at "the new york times." politicians are political animals. i think there's a whole bunch of motivations driving democrats. an actual substantive commitment to duty. also a degree that i think some of them think it will be politically advantageous. >> and i think -- not just that they'll knock the president around. i think that inasmuch as there is this conventional wisdom that you referred to that that is risky, i don't understand what it's based on. this quinnipiac poll that you mentioned today shows both kind of overwhelming belief in trump's criminality, but also 46% of the country, a majority of the country disapproves of the president. 46% of the country strongly disapproves. that's a plurality of american voters. the percentage that strongly approves of him is in the 20s. yet it seems like this small fraction of loud trump supporters, these are the ones people are worried about offending. i actually think that the base of the democratic party, maybe not the base that's on twitter, but the base of the democratic party, the people who organize and got out and voted in numbers that people have not seen in a midterm in however many years, they care very much about the rule of law. >> yes, that's true. >> they're desperate to see this president held to account. and so i think this is one of those cases where the sort of patriotic course of action, the politically expedient course of action are one and the same. >> but i think they care about it not as a politically instrumental -- i mean people feel like they need to restore something that's been lost as opposed to this will be the thing that takes him down, although i think there's some hope of that as well. cornel cornell, what do you make of these numbers by quinnipiac. i was surprised because there were so many warnings to democrats about overreach. 64% of americans think the president committed a crime, and 45% think he's committed a crime as president. >> i think we're getting to the point where it's baked in. i think when you look at the broad swath of americans, particularly those americans that are in the moderate middle, i think they have now decided. and that's where you get numbers like 60%. you don't get that 60% if those moderate persuadable voters are still thinking about it. so the majority of americans that have landed on what they think of the president and clearly they think he's dishonest and perhaps even a criminal. and i think if you go further, if you look at the nbc polling out here, if you look at his re-election and job approval going into re-election, it is worse than what obama's was and worse than what bush's was. he has an uphill fight to win re-election because you've got to remember he has not expanded his base of support at all. in fact i would argue that he shrunk the base of support overall for republicans, particularly when you look at college white voters who once upon a time the majority of them were voting republican. this time around they're not. right now trump has only a 55% disapproval among college whites. that is almost panic signs when you start looking at the suburbs around philadelphia and you start looking at suburbs around other battleground states. >> someone noted today that his approval rating right now is right around where it was on election day, 2018. and it doesn't change that much. you've got a column out making the point that he has also lost control of the story being told. >> right. i think that the michael cohen hearing was just the opening, right? sort of there's a sense that we've had this madman in charge and he's had fingers on all the levers of power and everybody who opposes him, which is the majority of the country, has been totally disempowered and now we're seeing the cavalry come in. so all of these different committees, not only are they empowered to get information but they're going to air it publicly. so we're basically going to see the trial of donald trump in several different venues on television. one of the things that happens with this scandal and people talk about it on this network all the time is that there's so much of it that it is very difficult to keep it in your mind, right? and even those of us who spend all of our time thinking about it can't keep track of it, never mind people who have jobs an lives and better things to do with themselves. >> who are socially useful individuals. >> right. and so i think what democrats have the chance to do now is to dramatize it, to kind of bring in all these characters. who is felix sater who's going to be testifying next week. explain who was donald trump before this freakish thing catapulted him into the white house. >> that point about the dramatiization, who do you believe, michael cohen or donald trump? he's been illegally lying, engaged in fraud. for people to watch those hearings and come away saying, yeah, i believe him over the president is something. >> also, we have a documented liar in the president -- >> of course. >> -- as well. long term, look, i think americans are making their decision minds up on the president being a liar and they don't trust him. but i think what's problematic for republicans is what the republican members on that committee did and how they were trying to protect the president as all costs. when you look at the percentage of americans, particularly in middle america who think this president is lying and think this president has done something wrong, for the republicans in congress to be lock step in line with him in trying to protect him, i think long term that hurts them in some districts. i think they might actually lose more seats going into this election than they lost in the midterms. >> that's a bold prediction. you'll be back on many times before that does or does not come true. thank you both for being with me. next, a closer look at the list of 81 people and organizations targeted in the new sweeping house investigation. some of the key people you may not have even heard of. i do this for a living and i have to remindi myself. i'll walk you through when we've learned in two minutes. k you the learned in two minutes and if i can get comfortable keeping this tookus safe and protected... you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. we really pride ourselves >> ton making it easyautoglass, to get your windshield fixed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there. >> teacher: you must be pascal. >> tech: yes ma'am. >> tech vo: saving her time... 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>> the witch hunt continues. the fact is that i guess we've got 81 letters. there was no collusion. that was a hoax. there was no anything. >> it's like a doll you pull a string on. joining me for a closer look at those 81 people and organizations, philip bump. he has written a very, very helpful article titled the 81 people and organizations just looped into the trump probe and why they are important. also with me maya wiley. so i was just saying to michelle goldberg when she was talking about even people who follow this day in and day out can lose the threads. but going through this yesterday, oh, wait, which one is that? let's talk about some of the more obscure ones who are in there. maybe renat akhmetshin who is on the obscure end. >> he was one of the participants in the trump tower meeting. he accompanied the kremlin-linked attorney. they had worked together in part apparently at fusion gps as well, working on some russia-related issues. he was at that meeting. he also has apparent ties to russian military intelintellige. his people pushed back and said he served in a unit which supported military intelligence so there's a lot of nebulousness there. but he is -- a lot of people see him as the most direct conduit between russia and what was happening in the trump tower meeting. >> he's sort of a washington figure. he had been a lobbyist, lobbied for russian interests if i'm not mistaken. >> that's right. >> he's in that world. >> that's right. >> what are the one names that stuck out at you, maya? >> well, i fall directly in that category of you can guess what i'm interested in. i'm looking at all of tony febrezio who was the pollster for paul manafort who knows what was in that polling information that manafort shared with russians. i'm looking at how do we know exactly what kind of information was shared, by whom, and of what import, of what impact. >> tony is the pollster that manafort was using. and there's this real question that we don't know because of the way things are redacted. we know polling data was shared. we don't know the story behind it, how in-depth it was. like he just printed some stuff off his computer and kind of a con job. the other story is it was real stuff from inside and presumably he would know that. >> that's right. even if he wasn't part of an arguable -- i'm not saying there's evidence yet of a conspiracy, but an arguable conspiracy, you know, he could at least just knowing the substance of the polls be able to indicate whether or not paul manafort was really sharing something that was of value to the russians for interfering in the election. and, you know, i think there are just several names that kind of float around that from cambridge analytica. so all of the people who kind of float directly to what information may have been shared by the campaign with russian operatives. >> and that's the closest we've come to the two sides touching, right? we know paul manafort gave this polling data which is a weird ass thing to do in the middle of a campaign. what about annie donaldson. this is someone whose name came up and a lot of people had to do some googling. >> so annie donaldson was chief of staff to don mcgahn who was white house counsel. she was his right-hand person and she was there. one of the things "the new york times" reported fairly recently is she took copious notes about what was going on, about her conversations with mcgahn, about what was happening in the white house. she also served in the transition with mcgahn so that may be of interest to investigators. but she was there for things like the economy ficomey firingn firing. and that is something that she took notes on, paid attention to. that is now actually in the mueller team's hands. >> this is a place where you can make document requests. you can escalate to subpoenas, although that's fairly rare. usually this is worked out through negotiation. something like that is a place where you can see a plausible assertion of executive privilege coming from the white house, right, maya? >> absolutely. i think this is where even though it's very hard to win on executive privilege, because it's the weakest. while it has been recognized by the supreme court, it's not a strong privilege. you don't get to withhold things if there's an indication that a crime may have been committed. you can't use it to withhold evidence. but, but, you can litigate it. >> you can fight and delay. >> you can fight and you can delay and you can delay for years potentially in catching it up in the legal process. so i actually look at those witnesses in part who are not connected to the administration in order to see where they can get information much more quickly and much more useful. >> so someone like tony febrezio or keith davidson who represented stormy daniels in the hush money payment, it's really hard to see any claim of executive privilege there. these people had nothing to do with the white house, nevaer worked in the white house. they're going to have to comply or that process will be faster. things in the white house, do you imagine the white house will go nuclear in terms of fighting that every step they have? >> absolutely. we saw i think it was last year that donald trump jr. tried to claim executive privilege in conversations with his father. they have a very expansive if not legally dubious way of looking at executive privilege. it seems pretty clear nip wanyoo maintains loyalty to the white house will try to exert. >> the last one is a story we've covered and been bizarre to me. who is peter smith? >> so peter smith is a long-term republican operative. he was sort of an anti-clinton guy. >> and a donor. >> yes, yes, exactly. during the 2016 campaign he took it upon himself to find e-mails that he believed had been stolen from hillary clinton's private e-mail server. he raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this. he claimed to have a relationship with michael flynn and other figures in the campaign. he solicited experts to try to weigh in. he was on the dark web but he liked to have this air of espionage about himself pretty clearly. it ended tragically. "the wall street journal" reported on this effort. ten days later he took his own life in minnesota. it remains a plaqblack box. it's either this guy is doing a weird free lancing or has potential significance. >> i want a definitive accounting of where we ended up on that whole thing. it may be possible it was a bizarre free lance exercise, also possible that it's not. still to come, roger stone is doing just about everything he can to ending up in jail. now despite his gag order, plan to release his book about the mueller investigation. what happens next after this. mu. what happens next after this oh, don't worry. voya helps them to and through retirement... ...dealing with today's expenses... ...like college... ...while helping plan, invest and protect for the future. so they'll be okay... without me? um... and when we knock out this wall imagine the closet space? yes! oh hey, son. yeah, i think they'll be fine. voya. helping you to and through retirement. ♪ do you ♪ love me? ♪ ♪ i can really move ♪ ♪ do you love me? ♪ i'm in the groove ♪ now do you love me? ♪ do you love me ♪ now that i can dance? ♪ watch me now! ♪ work, work, ah work it out baby ♪ applebee's 3 course meal starting at $11.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. 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"who framed roger stone" another post on roger stone's instagram account. later deleted. today in a new court order judge jackson made the court's displeasure with this pattern of behavior chris cal clear. the judge shredded the argument that the book wasn't a violation of the gag order because it was previously planned and the judge gave stone until march 11th, next monday, to explain how he planned to come into compliance with the gag order. to explain all recent social media posts, including deleted one. this is the same judge who in issuing the gag order a couple of weeks ago said so i want to be clear today, i gave you a second chance, but this is not baseball. there will be not a third chance. joining me now, nancy gertner, a former u.s. district judge and is now a senior lecturer at harvard law school. i'm so glad you were able to come on, nancy, because you presided over criminal cases and civil days. the first question is do you ever someone like roger stone who can't seem to help himself? >> yeah, i've had people. you know, on the one hand -- on the one hand i want to analogize it to the child that you say bedtime is 8:00 and they're going, oh, two more minutes. another book. except it's really serious. and he really is playing with fire. >> yeah, what did you make of the tone of that order today? so there's this question about whether he's violated this gag order and the judge issues this order and says you have to present on march 11th. what was your reading of that document? >> the document was way detailed about all the chances that she had given him, you know, about -- and you have to -- i do want to step back and say this judge was very cautious about the kind of order she was going to give him. there wasn't a gag order on him initially. it was only on the lawyers. he couldn't speak outside the court house. then there is the picture with the crosshairs, which the picture of a federal judge, you know, with negative comments is really extraordinary. i have never seen that before, and i've seen a lot. and then, then comes this incredibly disingenuous pleading last friday, which is we want clarification about the imminent release of the book. p.s., it was the book that had already been released. and in an extraordinary footnote in her decision, i mean really, you feel like this is a decision that the edges should be burned, you know. in a footnote to the decision, she says i think i know why he filed that order, that motion about the imminent release of the book, because it would attract attention to the book. it was a way of increasing sales. it was extraordinary. >> i want to quote it. she writes defendant's march 4th submission gives rise to the impression that the march 1 motion in which they asked about the book was intended to serve as a means to generate additional publicity for the book. >> right. so he says the imminent release of a book that in fact has already been released. and then this past sunday, so that was on friday. sunday there's the instagram post, you know, "who framed roger stone." i mean this man is -- i mean at this point she has -- she has two choices and it seems to me that one is a more likely one. one choice is to say don't do it again. it's very hard to do it under these circumstances. the other choice is to say i revoke your bail. which is seems to me is maybe the more likely response. >> so she can do that. she has the power to revoke bail and put him in jail because he is not complying with the terms of his bail? >> right. what's extraordinary about this order was that the language of the order that he is supposed to follow was drafted by his lawyers. it was drafted by his lawyer, and he's disobeyed it. >> you're saying the language of the lawyer, his lawyer said, here, we propose these following restraints. >> right. >> the judge signed onto them and he is violating what his own lawyers proposed as the rules of the road for being roger stone pending trial? >> right. so i don't know what the explanation is here. i don't know what the explanation is. she's asked for correspondence with his publisher to sort of figure out when he knew this book was coming out. but i don't see how this isn't anything but a violation of the terms of the order. >> if it is a violation, does that mean that he would be in a situation similar to paul manafort in which he's just in jail in pretrial detention until the trial? >> i mean she's sort of a little bit in a box. yes, she can revoke his bail because as a condition of bail, you have your freedom on the condition that you follow the rules of the court. and if this is an explicit violation of those rules, then she has a right to revoke his bail. she could cite him for contempt but that's a more complicated process and a more difficult process. no, she could easily revoke his bail. manafort was in more sense a more serious offense because his was tampering with a witness. but this is really saying to a federal judge, in your face. >> yeah, you're right about manafort. it was more serious because it was tampering with a witness and violating, but you have these two individuals who have known each other forever. in fact started a lobbying firm together in paul manafort and roger stone. just as a characterological takeaway that these two individuals cannot help themselves but violating rules, laws, things like that, it's really pretty striking. >> it's extraordinary. it's unnecessary. it's, you know, sort of undermining the authority of the court. it's a sociopath. >> that's what it looks like. nancy gertner, thank you very much. still to come, congressman ilhan omar and the polarizing generational fight within the democratic party. plus, thing 1, thing 2, starts next. plus, thing 1, thing 2, starts next thing 1 tonight, "the new yorker" dropped its big report about the very cozy mutually beneficial partnership between president trump and his mouthpiece, fox news. you might think after getting caught redhanded like that they both might want to lay low a little bit. but instead, the president's twitter feed last night was a full-on trump tv live blog. long, i mean long quotations of his favorite booster, sean hannity and tucker carlson an guests from appearances on multiple shows. you just watched them all. even shared a clip of the auburn haired fox business host lou dobbs. you can see how the perpetual trump nonsense machine operates. >> this is nothing but a political persecution. it's not even an investigation. this is purely and straightforward leanne assault. i want to talk about what these lazy, indulent son of a guns can do on a declaration of war against the radical d'amaems ane democratic republic. >> the democrats endless investigations, the hate trump jenda is hitting psychotic levels of derangement. >> i heard they subpoenaed the chef that makes the taco bells over at trump tower. that's how dpiirty they're getting. it's revenge politics because hillary lost. the only thing trump obstructed was hillary getting into the white house. >> let it not be said there isn't journalism being practiced at trump tv. the hard-hitting investigation you might have missed is thing 2 in 60 seconds. ve missed is thin2 in 60 seconds. to make you everybody else... ♪ ♪ means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. does this sound dismal? 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>> that's right! >> these comments polarized the party. fellow freshman cortez, collected officials started to stand with sand with her and senior members of the house shes she can'ts ontinues the anti sd tick stereo times. jeremy, how do you see this? >> look, let's start by saying an anti-semitism is real and we can agree. my mother fled the nazis in 1938. if you have a discussion about hate, let's start at the top. let's start by having a house discussion about the president's intolerance and his races and have a discussion about the racism that's coming from the other side of the aisle and stop using anti-semitism and the issues that are actually on the table of that occupation and treatment of the palestinians. >> do you think that's what is happening here? >> absolutely. there is an attempt to silence the debate by focussing the discussion on the anti-semitism rather than the underlying issue that needs to be discussed which is anti american policy. >> here is what i seen people make and i say this because omar herself made it in the last apology that is look, there is two collisions in american life, one and why is somebody so offended? why can't you deal with the problem? when you offend people, you listen seriously to that and if they say that language is bad for these historical reasons, you do your best to avoid that. do you think that applies in the case of omar herself and some of the sort of tropes for lack of a better word that some say she played on. >> i think, chris, the bigger issue is do people have good faith objections? yes, they do. has the reporting been awful? it has. let's be clear. she hasn't said anything about jews. i got her e-mail today saying you wrote an article and didn't mention how she accused those jews of having loyalty to israel. she didn't say that. she talked about supporters of israel insisting they show allegiance to israel and that's undeniable and reported for years. i think that is what is important here, chris. a lot of good faith krcriticisms misreporting what she said and done and i agree with jeremy, the idea the republican party will give lectures on climate change from the republican party. they are trafficking in globalist and all of this language that helped inspire the guy who walked into a synagogue in october and murdered 11 jewish. that was a guy that believed in the same conspiracy theories donald trump and republican members of congress put in day in, day out. it's the bad faith attacks to the real problem here and i agree with jeremy, we need to look at the big picture. anti-semitism is on the rise. it's a far right nationalist problem. it's not a problem from people who are criticizing israel. the most important tweet of the last couple weeks is not omar's tweet for me but one vargas, the california congressman that tweeted yesterday after criticismikri criticizing her questioning the relationship is unacceptable. cat out of the bag there. >> he said those two sentences next to each other, which was honest and important. to me, jeremy, it gets at a deeper issue. there is a discussion about anti-semitism and tearing the labor party apart quite literally. it's rendering in england and there is a lot of complex ways people feel about that. the degree is in good faith or bad but it is central there. then there is a question of this sort of generational view of israel and seems to be part of the issue here is there is a gap between senior leadership in the democratic party and how they feel about israel and younger members of the party and base who watched a netanyahu government who do not feel the same way about the state. >> right. and not only do they watch the netanyahu government but semievsem similarities between netanyahu and trump and the democracy and attack on the institutions of our democracy and see the same thing here and there and if we're opposed to trump here, why can't we be opposed to what netanyahu is doing there. it's a legitimate thing to criticize the policies of the government of israel and not everyone that does that is anti israel and anti ss-semiticantis >> the argument is that those two things go along for a reason and when you find the more conspiratorial corners of facebook posts by labor members of parliament that are gross and antis-semitic, there is a reason and over lap there because people are being driven by anti-semitism. >> the problem is as jeremy pointed out, let's look at big picture. the resolution on thursday says really important things on the rise of attacks and outrageous statements about jews, discrimination, hate. it has nothing to do with that. she's not expressed hate and discrimination. she's been on the receiving end of the hate and has a republican party in west virginia saying she's a terrorist and have an advisor going on fox and calling her fifth. the idea she should be targeted is absurd and i'd say everything she said about israel, she's pretty much said about saudi arabia. she must be islamic phobia. >> that picture was in the west virginia capital put up by the republican party. thanks for joining us. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> thanks, my friend. >> you bet. >> thanks to you for joining us this hour. happy tuesday. this is the top federal prosecutors in washington d.c., herb name is jessie liu and briefly served and the trump administration. president trump name the jessie liu to be t

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