Chris Hayes discusses the days top news. Legislation that this congress has been pushing forward. The biggest example of it was the corrupt gop tax scam where 83 of the benefits went to the wealthiest 1 . This was not done for the people. Thats what we stand for as democrats. It was done for the lobbyist, the wealthiest, the billionaires. This is corruption happening in plain sight. I would not disagree that is corrupt. But that is every day corruption. That is a system that is shot through with corruption. I dont want to minimize that. We are talking about specific corruption in that this president has a whole host of corrupt relationships to his business and things like that. That my question would, what would they do if they got the majority they are lying, cheating, stealing and doing it with impunity. And the reason is this congress has refused to do constitutional oversight responsibilities. The House Of Representatives doesnt work for donald trump. We work for the American People. But these guys on the other side of the aisle have not gotten the memo. So acting as coconspirators. Refusing to do oversight and subpoena documents and expose these corrupt scandals to the American People. Democrats will do that. Every day i think to myself, there should be a hearing on that. One example the insane story of the three maralago lawyers. Should there be hearings on that . Absolutely. You know, the oversight and Government Reform Committee basically, for years wasted millions of dollars on Hillary Clintons emails which was a fake scandal designed to
undermine her presidency but refuses to do anything at the corrupt, at the corrupt instance that has arisen. It is shameful. And you are not going to get them to act as constitutional check and balance as devin nunes disclosed to his donors. I want to play one bit of tape. Before you guys went on recess, they filed articles of impeachment on Rod Rosenstein. Listen to what he had to say. Also, on things that came up in the house on Rosenstein Impeachment thing. Yeah, yeah, well, so its a bit complicated right and i say that because you have to, so we only have so many months left, right. So if we actually vote to impeach, okay, what that does is that triggers the senate that has to take it up. Well, you have to decide what you want right now, because the senate only has so much time. You want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice. You are i said publicly Rosenstein Needs to be impeached. The question is the timing of it right before the election. The senate has to start the senate would have to drop everything they are doing and start with impeachment on rosenstein and then take the risk of not getting kavanaugh confirmed. It is not a matter it is a matter of timing. That sounds like they support in impeaching Rod Rosenstein but not doing it now. The plot which is to go after Rod Rosenstein but allow the senate to jam the Supreme Court justice. Do that work and then return after the midterm elections to try to jam up Rod Rosenstein. Most people can remember that the Clinton Impeachment took place in the aftermath of the midterm election. It appears they want to go out and do the same thing. It was in 1998 midterms breaking with history. A stunning rebuke of republicans who lost seats in congress and continued in that lame duck session. Do you think that is what they would do . It wouldnt shock me. If they lose the house and well, a few months left, lets impeach rosenstein. Of course, that is what they do. The socalled chairman of the Intelligence Committee is a complete embarrassment. What is worse is that you have the number fourperson signing off on this and we cant believe what the leadership is saying. When we know what donald trump wants to do is get rid of Rod Rosenstein because he wants to get rid of the investigation. Nunes is a special case in terms of the extraordinary lengths he has gone to. That is basically most of the way the republicans feel about this. Significant members of House Republicans are what i call the cover up caucus. Their sole objective of life is to deny the fact that we have a criminal conspiracy that appears
to have taken place to sell out our democracy. They want to turn a blind eye to that and distract the American People in part by doing things like going after Rod Rosenstein. They are not spending a ton of time legislating. We want to lower Prescription Drug prices and raise pay. For more on the mounting Corruption Scandals joined by chris lew and former u. S. Attorney harry litman. Is it surprising to you that how little investigative work the oversight has done. It is about ferreting out
waste, fraud and abuse. Scott pruitt, only one of them being done by the House Oversight committee. Any one of those things would have tripped him up. There was no issue that was small enough that the republicans would not investigate an obama cabinet member for. I remember back in 2011, this thing about 16 muffins used at a Department Of Justice conference. That was an issue. That was a threeday story. I remember it. Now talking about 120 million with wilbur ross that likely would never be investigated. One of the things that comes
through with the tapes is the control of the house is everything in terms of what happens, what is exposed and what we could get to the bottom of independent of the mueller investigation. Totally right, as chris says a sea change and it is not simply that the shoe is on the other foot. Much stronger bipartisan tradition among both the house and the Senate Committees that Nunes In Particular has demolished. Remember, that fundraiser is for a member of the leadership of the house who is going along with the whole kind of program. It is clear that they placed themselves as vessels to the white house as protective for to them and one corollary is that it makes them important that one force in town going after truth without fear in favor robert
mueller be allowed to do his job. Particularly bad not only trying to protect the president but demonize mueller. Weird broken government. Working in concert with the white house against a part of the executive. I want to get your response to giuliani talking about this back and forth with the mueller which again, take it with a grain of salt. I have no idea what is going on and this is his concern about why he doesnt want his client to testify about a perjury trap. He knows the answer to every question that he wants to ask. He is going it ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. The president is going to say no i didnt. Hey, bob, you know it. Why do you want to get him under oath . Do you think we are fools . You want to trap him into
perjury. We are not going to let you do that. How great is this . And the other one, chris, is even better. The other question that giuliani says is a paradigm of a perjury trap is why did you fire comey. As to that, we have heard eight different answers from the president of the united states. They have shifting and inconsistent and seven of them are lies. The Gotcha Strategy by the prosecution to want to hear the truth on this question on which criminal liability and the sort of integrity of the government rests is ludicrous this is exactly the opposite of a perjury trap. This is mr. President , what were you doing and why. What was your State Of Mind which by the way we do not know Contra Giuliani and dont know what he is going to say. He said so many different things
so far. This is down the center of what a legitimate prosecutor wants to find out. Not just for criminal conduct but for the country and history. Can you imagine pressure on the president from congress for him to actually talk to mueller . No. Not under this current environment and that will be the issue coming down the road as to having the Democratic Congress that conducts oversight and doesnt impede a lawful investigation. I find the giuliani statement is amazing. And one of the favorite tweets today, tweeting it is only a perjury trap if you are a liar. There is no perjury trap if you tell the truth. I find giuliani slightly hard to follow and i will confess, and maybe that is me. The president is going to lie, the premise of that thing is the president is going to lie. And lie about important material things not about was it a tuesday or wednesday which is what a perjury trap would be about. Thank you both. Thank you, chris. The manafort trial, day eight why the judge had to apologize to the mueller team. And how desperate Paul Manafort was when he entered the trump team. Are you ready to take your wifi to the next level . Then you need xfinity xfi. A more powerful way to stay connected. It gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most Wifi Coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. Its the ultimate wifi experience. Xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. Day eight of the Paul Manafort trial began with judge t. S. Ellis admitting a mistake sort of. Addressed the jury after filing in the courtroom today he said the following youll recall yesterday i was critical of counsel for counsels allowing a witness mr. Welch to remain in the courtroom. I was probably wrong in that. Thats big of him. The judge had in fact been wrong. Told the prosecution at the beginning of the trial, an Expert Witness could attend a trial unlike most witnesses allowed in the trial and yesterday lambasted the prosecution for doing that. I dont care what the transcript says, maybe i made a mistake. I am joined by National Security and justice reporter julie ainsley. And judge nancy gertner. Nancy let me start with you. You have run trials and lots of people reacting to judge elliss disposition. What is your read on this . This particular one is interesting. The trial begins with a Government Saying can we have
this expert in the courtroom. The judge says yes, and puts him on the stand. The judge goes on and essentially criticizing the government in front of the judge for having welch in the courtroom during the testimony of other witnesses. The government did Something Interesting which they havent done about other comments. Literally filed a motion in front of him overnight showing him a transcript of what he had said and the motion he had approved. When the judge gave this curative instruction, it wasnt ambiguous, he was flat out wrong, wrong to admonish the government. Never clear what impact that has on the jury. Ordinarily, the judge looks to the judge as their representative in a way. He is the one who is the neutral in the case and so when the judge leans on one side in a critical way, that could wind up hurting that side. Sometimes it has the opposite effect. Sometimes it could be that the jurors would look at the judge and saying you are going to hard on one side. Cant really tell. But from what i understand from the reporting, this Wasnt The First example of his. No. Of his criticizing the government. Julie, you were in the courtroom today, what was it like . That is exactly right. There were times when there were Light Heartedness from the prosecution. She had to read an emoji, the jury laugh and the judge stayed stone face and any time the defense wasnt ready, a lot of times when they were shuffling pages and he would say go ahead take all the time you need. So there is clearly a heavy handedness here in one direction
and that is against the prosecution. I think it would be hard for the jury not to pick up on that and have that opposite reaction that we just laid out here. It seems to be definitely onesided. Let me ask you about the testify was today. Focused on the bank fraud stuff, financial documents, property owned in soho. Early 2016, is that right . This was right when Paul Manafort was in his biggest financial crunch and starting to lie on loan applications, trying to refinance his mortgages and take out another loan for 5 million out of a bank in california with his soninlaw at the time. That was eventually written down to 1 million when it was find they couldnt use a house in Bridge Hampton because it was in his wifes name. Took investigation on account of the bank to figure it out. To figure out that Paul Manafort wasnt being forth coming. In some cases they couldnt figure it out because Paul Manafort had people lying for him and that was one person, cindy laporta. She has immunity. It was one of the dryer days being in the court because the prosecution really did go over a lot of the same evidence they have done before particularly on this Howard Street residence in new york. You could see the jury yawning and stretching in their chairs the psychology of a District Trial Judge in a case that you know was a huge deal. The nation is watching this and also from an appeals perspective, you know there is going to be appeals. How does that affect how you run a courtroom when you are dealing with high stakes, high profile trial. It is hard to say in general,
but what you would do, if you were concerned if one side was going too slowly or concerned about the scope of the evidence, what you would do is wait until the jury leaves the room and then admonish one side or the other. What you dont do is do this in front of the jury. But let me put the shoe on the other foot. I have no doubt and this is for after my years as a lawyer and my years as a judge. That if the defense was the focus of these kinds of comments they would be moved for a mistrial in a nano second. You avoid that by making comments if you have to and have to control the proceeding out of the presence of the jury. I understand today that he also said he thought attempted bank fraud wasnt very important. And that is a direct comment on the evidence which you are not allowed to do. Yeah. You are just not allowed to do that. That is a point that i would love to go back to. A part where the prosecution just finished questioning a witness and the defense just got up for cross examination, and he says i hope you focus on a loan that was actually approve. In other words, why did we just waste our time listening to that witness and whole 25, 30 questions that the prosecution laid out. Essentially discrediting the case they made. Yes . It is not just a question of doing whatever you are going to do, dont do it in front of the jury, number one. And what you do has to do with legal issues and not comments on the evidence. And this sounded like comments on the evidence. He should get anonymous twitter. Still, 2018, and women, nativeamericans, gay people, still, 2018, and women,
nativeamericans, gay people, the unemployed and under employed have to fight like hell just to survive. And it is clear that trump and others in washington dont give a damn like anyone like me. She will be my guest next. Dont go anywhere. The nature of a virus is to change. Move. Mutate. Everyday when we go to work we want everyone to work safely and come home safely. I live right here in auburn, i absolutely love this community. Once i moved here i didnt want to live anywhere else. I love that people in this community are willing to come together to make a difference for other peoples lives. Together, were building a better california. The nonpartisan Cook Political Report ranks 27 house seats this year as toss up. 25 of those held by republicans. Including the Third District of kansas which was ranked leaning republicans until yesterday. And that race pits yoder against
davids. Yoder missed no time in attacking her. They have been battling out to see who is most out of touch with this district, lived here the shortest amount of times. It is amazing. They dont know kansas. They dont know our values and neither of them should be our voice in washington d. C. Here with me now is sharice davids. Yoder continued with a spiel on this front. Moved her a few months ago to try and help nancy pelosi win back the house majority. She doesnt share our values. What do you say . Well, i definitely would say that you know, having really seen so much opportunity in my life because of the shird shird district, i started out at Johnson College community college, going from there to cornell for law school. To say that i dont know the Third District or kansas is laughable. You have an interesting bio. You were in mma for a while, is that right . Yeah, i have been a martial artist for a number of years since i was 19 and i did compete in mixed martial arts. It has been a big part of my life. And then you went to cornell, you were in the obama administration. What prompted you to run for congress . It was about that i dont feel like the Third District has been represented well in d. C. And i want to see someone represent our voice and have a Decision Maker who wants to listen to people in the Third District and not just the special interests that he is making sure he stays in office. If you win, what are you going to do when you get there. You get to work on three things your first day if congress, lets say you have a democratic majority, what do you want to do . The key thing that i am hearing over and over every time i talk to people, is the people in the Third District are concerned about access to Affordable Quality Health care
and that is the number one thing that i constantly hear from folks here on the ground. So definitely that has to be part of what i work on. And you know, education, education. Public education has one, given me a Great Foundation and then two, it has for so long in this district been the reason that we have been able to thrive. I think that is something of course all of kansas is concerned about. And secondly education. And the third one, there are quite a few things that people are concerned about. The environment is one. Certainly, tax, you know, the Tax Implications of the last bill are another thing. And then immigration issues consistently come up. Do you see yourself, they are going it try to make this race about nancy pelosi, already made that clear. What is your response to you are going to be a proxy for nancy pelosi speakership . Well, my response is, look, my entire life has been about trying to make progress and Opening Doors that have not been made open to people like me, and the lived experience. To say i can be a proxy for someone else when i come from a background that has not been represented in congress before is laughable. I am running for congress so the Third District can have a strong representative. Thank you so much for your time tonight. Thank you. Still ahead, Tech Giants Reckoning A rightwing conspiracy theorist. Tonight, thing one, thing two, it is a good one, next. Ending Chain Migration and cancelling the visa lottery. I started talking about Chain Migration. Chain migration. Chain migration is one of the disasters. A disaster. A total disaster. We have to end Chain Migration. We have to end Chain Migration. You know, he talks about it so much that we started wondering if maybe there was an ulterior motive. Does make you wonder whether Donald Trumps war on Chain Migration is some kind of passive aggressive thing on his in laws. Citizenship was just awarded. Thing two in just 60 seconds. Melania trumps parents
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some citizen risk who have are no fans of jones. Notably he was not banned by twitter. The ceo saying jones had not violated twitters rules. He elaborated on twitter policy on Sean Hannitys radio show. Any sort of violent speech, encouragement toward violence, harassment is directly against our materials of service and we take immediate action. I wish somebody would just punch hannity in the face. What do you do then . In all the considerations, not to get into specifics, we have to take the context. We have to really understand what the context of the conversation is. Late today, noting the content that appears to violate twitters rules does appear repeatedly on his page. Less than an hour later, more than a dozen videos and tweets were deleted. Joining me, barry lynn, executive director, expressing
concerns about whose contend should be allowed. As someone who has led these campaigns, how do you think about what the lines are . Who is on one side of it and who isnt . Actually, theres right and left. Theres right and wrong and theres confenlt promotes violence. Theres content that passes White Nationalism and White Supremacy as legitimate political rhetoric. And all of our campaigns are really rooted in this message of the first amendment. Alex jones has a first amendment, spotify and twitter have a first amendment, and at color of change, we have a first amendment. And they have the right to put alex jones on the air and we
have a right to mobilize our people and hold them accountable and to tell corporations, if you play footsie with alex jones, you support his content, we are going to hold you accountable. For folks who believe in the market place, freefl speech, this is very much in the best interests of us holding those institutions accountable. Did you an interview. Youve talked a lot about the threat of monopoly. In youtube and facebook and theyre wrestling with what to do with all their monopoly power. But alex jones seems like low hanging fruitful he is in a special category, isnt he . He is kind of in a special category. Youre absolutely right. He is a pretty vile human being. Personally i would pray that alex jones sort of burns in hellfire. But the question is, how, now that we have these corporations, like google and facebook, that have become essential facilities, essential Communications Net works within our nation, we have to have a conversation that goes beyond sort of asking google and facebook to shut this guy, people like alex jones down. We have to remember, he was to a very large extent a product of the power of google and facebook. Youve got now, youtube, facebook, google, you can watch anything on this and well take some of that profit money and we dont have to police it, we dont to have deal with all that. Were just a neutral platform. Alex jones is one example. These platforms are not neutral. As someone who has campaigned for years to force these corporations to actually adhere to the terms and services, they use all sorts of algorithms to serve up information. If i go now and google, for instance, things about White National i or david duke, i will be served up at some point maybe more information on that. So these platforms are not in any way neutral. When they tell you that they are, they are lying to you. We go back and forth. With spotify about alex jones and in particular, about them pulling some of his shows, by pointing to the terms and servicesful i will agree, these platforms have made alex jones, just like some tv networks have made some really vile people in our society as well. That doesnt mean we should tolerate it. The thing i was struck by, like you, a little uneasiness
about how these Big Tech Giants will navigate this going forward. It was the collectiveness of it. They sit around and take no responsibility. Alex jones is making them tons of money. They sell ads against him and apple leads the charge and then they all fall like dominos and you wonder when it will rear its head again. Thats why we need to make a decision collectively about these corporations. We dont who know theyll do it to next. And this is really, it has been something, this is not the first time weve seen this problem in america. We saw it in the 19 century with the telegraph system. The owner of the telegraph system. Jay gould tried on gain it for his own profit. But time and again weve seen this problem and time and again the American People have learned to deal with these Communications Platforms and make them truly neutral and making sure theyre serving us as opposed to serving up vile propaganda to us. Please. Yeah. Before black folks, women, lgbt, these platforms are not neutral just like society is not neutral. Four years ago, folks at ferguson were tweeting stories that the main stream media was not covering. And they raised their voices. And america focused its attention on ferguson. At the same time twitter has not been able to get itself together with how it deals with all the attacks on black lives matter activists. There is a long way to go. I agree. But every day, people standing up and pushing back is what we need in this. Thank you. We have a podcast, its. True every tuesday you can get an episode