Im for keeping them up. And what to make of the president s opioid announcement. If we can teach young people and people generally not to start, its really, really easy not to take them. When all in starts now. Good evening from new york. Im joy reid in for chris hayes. Tonight amid signs that Robert Muellers investigation could be closing in, the white house is scrambling to discredit the messenger with a big assist from his partners on fox news. Theres no way the American People can trust Robert Mueller to investigate anything russian related. What really stinks here is mueller, rosenstein, Andrew Wiesman and james comey appear to have covered it all up, the uranium one deal. We have to have mueller fired. Yes, Robert Mueller, i hope youre watching. Oh Robert Mueller, are you awake tonight . Robert mueller is now investigating anything involved with russia, how is that possible . To be fair and impartial, its impossible because of his past role in this. He should resign immediately tonight. Fox news has been relentlessly hiping a claim that Hillary Clinton sold out our National Security by supposedly personally approving a 7yearold uranium deal with russia in exchange for a big donation to the clinton foundation. Its a claimed thats been debunked for years. Note that false graphic on snoeps. Com. But the truth hasnt stopped the president and his guard from pushing the story as the new watergate and the real russia scandal. With white house Water Carrier devin nunes still the chair of the House Intelligence Committee announcing his own parallel investigation to the real russiagate probe. Take that, democrats. And fox news hyping the supposed conspiracy so defcinit defcon o
evidence that every trump antagonist needs to be locked up. Somebodys got to go to jail over theis and not just the one whos been convicted. Who are the top people in jeopardy . I think Hillary Clinton, anybody at the dnc. Eric holder . James comey in particular because he may have abused his office, and he could have done it for mueller . Mueller knew. Covering it up to congress he should have recused himself. He should recuse himself. Same with rosenstein . Absolutely. And Jeff Sessions needs to get off his duff and appoint a special counsel. Immediately. Yes. Hillary clinton. Comey, Loretta Lynch, everybody. Everybody. Tonight, a new fox news reported development that the president himself personally intervened to lift a gag order on someone with knowledge of the supposed deal. In an apparent effort to give the debunked story even more
oxygen. The Uranium Claim is not the only line of attack. Conservative media is using the news that the Clinton Campaign helped paid for the steele dossier alleging trump ties to russia to both discredit the claims in the dossier and undermine mueller. The news means the fbis role in the russian interference must now be investigated writes the wall street journal. Adding that mueller could best serve the country by resigning to prevent further political turmoil. Why is this Counter Offensive happening now . Well, for starters, both Sarah Huckabee sanders and juliet kai i am or predicting that mueller could go public soon and predicting that mueller could drop something before thanksgiving and claiming this is more than obstruction. There is Something Big underlying the obstruction. Meanwhile, each day seems to bring new material for mueller to work with. Last night the journal added new details to the bombshell
revelation that trump linked data firm reached out to wikileaks with its ceo contacting Julian Assange to offer help organizing the clinton related emails the website was releasing. These are the emails that our government says were stolen by russian aligned hackers during the campaign. If this is true, it means that the Trump Campaigns data firm was trying to help the russians disseminate anticlinton documents stolen by agents of a foreign government. The Trump Campaign is trying to play down its connection to cambridge, claiming in a statement that it relied only on data from the rnc. Quote, any claims that voter data from any other source played a key role in the victory are false. According to the campaigns own fec filings, the Trump Campaign paid cambridge an lit ka 5. 9 million. And there were dozens of profiles of the mercerfunded cambridge an lit ka as the
Beating Heart of the Trump Campaigns data operation, including this bbc tour of where the operation had been housed. Cambridge an lit ka was here. So it was just a line of computers. This is where their operation was and this is kind of the brain of the data. This was the data center. This is the data center, the center of the data center. Exactly right. Yes, it was. Im joined by Business Insider Political Correspondent natasha bare trant whos been covering this and msnbc contributor and former fbi agent, author of how to catch a russian spy. Whats the significance of this . Its the first known instance that weve seen where the Trump Campaign directly reached out to wikileaks during the election. We saw that trump throughout the entire election was praising wikileaks, was telling russia to
please find these 33,000 missing emails. And if true, which Julian Assange said that this was accurate that the ceo did reach out to him and wikileaks basically denied their overtures. That indicates that someone with a very important prominent role in the Trump Campaign, really the Beating Heart was trying to conclude with Julian Assange who has been characterized as a tool of the kremlin. Give us a timeline of when this outreach was taking place, what point in the campaign. We dont know exactly when this happened. Cambridge an lit ka was hired in june 2016 and the email was supposedly sent in late july right after the Republican National convention. It was right around the time that the dnc emails were released by wikileaks. It was just before the kickoff of the dnc, the Democratic National convention, that wi wikileaks did this data dump of the dnc emails, around the time that allegedly alexander knicks
sent this email to Julian Assange. Do you get the sense that revelations like that might be the reason that you see this almost sort of hysteria to get some other russia related story that targets democrats . Theyve listed literally every democrat they can think of. Eric holder should go down, james comey should go down, Hillary Clinton and even bob mueller. Do you think those two things are connected . I think they are. Joy, this isnt watergate. This is stupid water gaegatewat. Youre absolutely right. Theres Something Big coming. I think that these people are worried and the best they can do is do a preemptive attack on whatever it is thats coming. We dont know what that is. The fact that these things are coming out now when theres no reason to rebut anything is for lack of a better word curious. I think its exactly what youre leading towards which is there is something coming, they know about this, and theyre preemptively trying to distract the American Public from something fairly big thats coming down the pike. Do you get the sense that
because you do have there were two sort of lines of attack. Theres the we dont have anything to do with cambridge an lit ka so thats not us, but then you have not only the Trump White House but also people in and around the donald Trump Campaign saying, no, no, look at the connections between these Uranium Deals and everyone from eric holder to Robert Mueller. Do you get the sense that their ultimate target is mueller . So trump last week said that he has no intention of firing Robert Mueller. He kind of, you know, came out and said, no, let the russia investigation take its course in so many words. He basically said he doesnt have any plans to impede the investigation because if they gave any indication that he was going to go after mueller that would be bad. That said, his allies have been working over time to discredit mueller. I was also thinking that the Trump Administration kind of blew past this october 1 deadline to implement the sanctions on russia so perhaps its not so much something that theyre looking to preempt thats happening in the future but something that theyre trying to distract from that
they didnt do already. Thats a good point because you do have an administration that despite its sort of desperation to distance itself from the russia investigation, its been ostentatiously doing things like not implementing the russia sanctions. Do you get the sense that this is a white house thats nervous about ties to russia or flagr t flagrantly flaunting it . Both. I went to hip c and briefed the members back in the spring. Explain what hip c is. Sorry. The House Intelligence Committee of which adam schiff and nunes is part of it who supposedly recused himself. The fact that no republican showed, this was a nonpartisan brief on the dangers of russia from a National Security standpoint. I was double agent under bush. Theres nothing partisan about that. The fact that none of them could come or even send a staffer, from that day forward told everyone they werent serious about considering that russia is a threat. Somehow this has become politicized and because of that theyve actually refused to acknowledge that theres a russian threat. Joy, this Isnt Russian Meddling in our election. This was a Russian Campaign against the United States. At the end of the day theyre distracting us, throwing flares to try to take away from the fact that there was something significant that happened, it needs to be fixed and most likely americans in some part aided the russians in that activity and thats very disturbing and should be disturbing and should be given the full and honest treatment that the severity of whats being alleged deserves. Thank you both for your time tonight. Im now joined by former federal prosecutor and matt miller, former chief spokesman at the u. S. Department of justice. Matt, your take on what does seem to be an attempt by the white house and its allies to create a parallel russia gate
that targets every prominent democrat they can think of. It goes back to the campaign when in the debate Hillary Clinton called donald trump a pub et of vladimir putin. His answer was no puppet, youre the puppet. Thats basically the answer here. There are two things. One, republicans in congress basically have to get through every news cycle. There continue to be new revelations about the president s campaign and their interactions with russia, about whats happened in the white house, and they dont have good answers for why theyre not aggressively investigating that. Instead they come up with these Conspiracy Theories that get them onto fox news and repeated on fox news. Thats the first thing. The second thing and the much more strategic longterm plan they have is to completely try to undermine the Mueller Investigation so when it ends, if the president if mueller finds that the president either knew about something criminal that happened during the campaign or obstructed justice in the white house, when that referral comes back from mueller to congress in the form of an Impeachment Referral, they have
done everything they can to undermine his credibility with their base. That suggests that they think there might be something serious coming out of the mueller probe. What would you guess that that could be . Well, the most serious allegation that impacts the president that we know about right now is obstruction. I mean, clearly he was the one who made the decision to fire james comey. You notice, you were talking about all of the cast of characters that fox news is trying to throw into this years old story and one of them was james comey. Hes sort of out of place. All these other people were prominent democrats. James comey is a career Law Enforcement guy but hes thrown in there because they also have to smear his name because he is the person who was fired by the president and that conduct is at the center of what probably is going to be the most serious charge against the president of the United States. And matt, they also through in eric holder. Its not clear really what his connection to their Conspiracy Theory might be and of course Hillary Clinton. So they do seem to be sort of naming an allstar list of
people that base that watches fox news dislikes. Thats right. I think eric holder like Hillary Clinton, republicans cant quit either of them. Hillary clinton theyve been going after for 25 years. Theres this crazy thing on the right now where all of the structure is wrong. Fox news raises a Conspiracy Theory. Sean hannity is going about this for weeks. Republicans in congress answer that Conspiracy Theory, answer the fox News Coverage by ginning up subpoenas, opening up investigations. Theyre rewarded with more coverage on informatifox news as no incentive for them to investigate the president when they live in a parallel world thats disconnected from reality. So if you turn on fox or look at breitbart, you would think that Loretta Lynch and eric holder were the ones that hacked the election, that helped steer it towards russia. It is absolutely absurd. Yeah, ive taken to calling it earth 2 sometimes. Its sort of a completely different world. Im wondering then as a legal
matter if this kind of where youre trying to blur the lines between who was talking to russia, who was really colluding with russia, does that have any impact on the investigators . I dont think it does. I will tell you its actually a fairly common technique by people who are subjects of a criminal investigation. When i was a federal prosecutor, they always tried to go after me. They tried to go after the investigation. They tried to create distractions and it didnt work. I think the difference here unfortunately is were talking about the president of the United States and as you pointed out, theres this sort of Propaganda Machine behind him. I will tell you, i have Family Members who voted for donald trump and watch fox news and they do live in that parallel universe and its a problem for us as americans because we cant come together and deal with the same set of facts. So, i think as matt said, i think the setup here is for a political process in congress if there is, for example, an Impeachment Referral giving them cover not to contact. Absolutely. Matt miller, thank you for being
here. Ronado mariachi, who i understand may be getting back into the game. I am. I guess i should tell you, joy, i am going to be running for illinois Attorney General and i just made that decision. Im making it now. It is definitely a big change for me but i feel like i cant sit on the sidelines. Donald trump is doing too much to, frankly, trample on our rights and hes somebody that can only be stopped by states Attorney General and frankly, i think what we just heard about today is part of that. Congress cant be counted on to check him. So i dont want to sit on the sidelines. So im going to be running for that. Im not a millionaire or insider so i do need peoples support. You can check out my website or twitter. Making the announcement right here on all in. Thank you very much. Tonight republicans talk of waging a gop civil war, a fight for the soul of the party. But if there was a war, its over and the victor is donald trump. Thats in two minutes. You know who likes to be in control . This guy. Check it out selfappendectomy oh, thats really attached. Thats why i rent from national. Where i get the control to choose any car in the aisle i want, not some car they choose for me. Which makes me one smooth operator. Ah still a little tender. vo go national. Go like a pro. Our guests can earn a free night when they book at choicehotels. Com and stay with us just two times . Fall time. Badda book. Badda boom. Pumpkin spice cookie . Im good. Book now at choicehotels. Com your insurance on time. Tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. What good is having insurance if you get punished for using it . News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch and you could save 782 on home and auto insurance. Call for a free quote today. Liberty stands with youâ„¢ Liberty Mutual insurance. Where he said that homosexual comments should be illegal. Do you agree with that . I dont have to agree with somebody to support them over the democratic nominee. So this is a i support the nominee of my party. Hes also said that he didnt think keith illson should be able to be sworn in because hes a muslim. These are things that i have disagreements within my own family. Doesnt mean i care for them any less or so thats i support the nominee of my party. There you go. No matter how outrageous a republican might be, how bigoted or ignorant, as long as they can win and if they vote with the party, if they let trump build his wall, get extravagant tax cuts to the rich and take away health care from those who arent rich, theyre family. David weigel of the Washington Post recently wrote about mcconnell allies, declaring war on steve bannon. It was written that Establishment Republicans agree that steve bannon is kicking
our bleep. Dave, i will start with you. I want to play paul ryan and marco rubio, the latter having been very critical of donald trump during the campaign right before he said he would be honored to help him win election. This is the two of them today doing a briefing. You know what the American People want to see us do . Solve their problems. I dont think the American People want to see us up here yelling at each other. They want to see us fighting for them. He was elected president. Im going to work with him for the good of our country and were going to try to get good things done. You know, david, there is a civil war in the Republican Party. One would think that steve bannon and friends would want guys like those to be defeated, but they are not fighting donald trump. Those guys are absolute utter loyalists to donald trump. What our story was about in part was the republican groups that do exist are trying to protect incumbents like the
senate Leadership Fund which is Mitch Mcconnells organization. They are trying to make bannon toxic personally. Theyre sort of acknowledging that he is a famous figure with more clout than frankly most of them when it comes to the Republican Base in large part because of conservative media. So theyre trying to make him toxic with the moderate voters who still can decide republican primaries in some states. But thats it. Within the senate theres not much of that going on. There are not people jeff flake did not make his announcement and then go down to campaign for a candidate of his liking in alabama. Theres a bit of carping and then Wishful Thinking as you saw in the clips. Tim miller who i believe used to work for Mitch Mcconnell tweeted out today. Hes a former spokesperson for jeb bush bus. He says theres a War For The Future of the gop. Im amused that in the media you keep hearing theres a Great War Dave is right. If theres a war, its a
rhetorical war against steve bannon and utter obedience to donald trump. If you look in terms of who has the president s ear, the ear of the most powerful man on the face of the planet, people who align themselves more with folks like Mitch Mcconnell, socalled establishment figures, are in open war with the president and having public feuds back and forth all the time. Steve bannon, even though he no longer works within trumps west wing still speaks to the president on the phone fairly regularly to give him advice and counsel. My sources in the white house in and outside of the white house tell me that in the past two or three weeks the frequency of the calls between steve bannon and President Donald Trump has actually increased. So if were looking at which side is winning and which side is losing, at least for now and this could change, well see how the 2018 race is torn out, but it appears that Steve Bannons side is asen dant and even people both in and out of congress are starting to take
note. Dave, it strikes me that rather than this being a war or a real purge, what you really basically have is steve bannon issuing a blanket threat. You will either be obedient in public to donald trump, or well threaten you to primaries. He doesnt have to win any for that threat to have salient. Hes already won one although bannon did kind of jump to the front of the parade in alabama. Roy moore won for a number of reasons, had been famous in the state for two decades. Hes also very smartly i think endorsed republican candidates who are fairly well supported by the establishment. In breitbart theyre taking credit for josh holly in missouri who was recruited by people like john danforth, one of the most prominent never trump critics, the former senator. Bannon and him are on the same side. What they take credit for is coming out and saying maybe he wont vote for mcconnell for majority leader. Theres a constant state of argument about what the party stands for and in bannons mind this party stands for whatever donald trump stands for at that moment. It stands for populism. When it comes to the Economic Issues and a lot of individual candidate positions, theyre really negotiable. All thats needed is for these guys to be pro trump and antimcconnell. Thats how the establishment is defined by somebody who was in the white house until recently. Have you been able to find substantive differences in terms of policy. Jeff flake and cornyn may not like the style of donald trump but do you see differences between him and them on policy . Between those guys and people like donald trump and steve bannon, there certainly are substantive differences on hot button issues such as immigration. People like trump and bannon would like something far more restrictive than people like jeff flake. But theyll vote for it if its put in front of them, right . Theyll vote for trumps version if its put in front of them . Well see if jeff flake votes for a wall. But in terms of people like Mitch Mcconnell and jeff flake, in terms of weaponizing the socalled Republican Base for the 2018 races, i think what steve bannon and people of his ilk are counting on is that Mitch Mcconnell is becoming a name synonymous with people like john boehner and even barack obama in terms of what people in the republican and conservative base finds an ath ma. Well see. Thank you very much for being here. Appreciate you both. Coming up, the president finally addresses the opioid crises by allocating no new money and telling people to simply not do drugs. What it looks like when the president tries to fulfill a campaign promise, ahead. Back pa. Because at a dr. Scholls kiosk he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain, from being on his feet. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. During the election candidate trump talked a lot about the Opioid Epidemic, referring to it as a National Emergency. The opioid crises is an emergency and im saying officially right now it is an emergency. Its a National Emergency. Were going to draw it up and were going to make it a National Emergency. But this is a National Emergency and we are Drawing Documents now to so attest. Next week im going to be declaring an emergency, a National Emergency on drugs. The opioid is a tremendous emergency. Were going to be doing a very, very important meeting some time in the very short, very near future on opioids. In terms of declaring a National Emergency which gives us power to do things that you cant do right now. Today when donald trump
stepped forward to present his administrations battle plan on a crises that last year alone took the lives of 60,000 americans, do you suppose he went ahead and declared it a National Emergency . Well give you the answer, next. Accused of Obstructing Justice to theat the fbinuclear war,
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thing. Really tough, really big, really great advertising. Advertising. Now, if that sounds exactly like first Lady Nancy Reagans just say no Campaign Launched back when president Ronald Reagan declared a war on drugs, thats because it is exactly the same. Trump today also announced that this saturday is National Prescription drug takeback day, meaning on saturday you can personally solve the opioid crises by simply throwing away your pills at a designated collection site. When you can safely turn in these dangerous and horrible drugs for disposal, that will be a wonderful, wonderful period of time for you. Republican congressman james comber of kentucky joins me now. Thank you very much for being here. I want to start with what you make of the fact that the president , despite having said that the opioid crises is a National Emergency that he didnt declare it a National Emergency. He declared it a Public Health
emergency. Is that good enough for you, sir . It is good enough. I think its a great start. I plaud him for bringing attention to this. I represent a rural area. It makes it more accessible for tele health to get access to be able to treat this addiction in the rural areas. It frees up federal funds that can be shifted from one agency into the fight against the Drug Epidemic, and the president is using the bully pulpit to bring attention to this. Its great that were talking about this tonight. Everybody in america is talking about this. No one has a real clear answer as to how to solve this, but we have to take a scientific approach and let the metrics determine the best way to solve this and i think the president did a great job today bringing this to the forefront. The bully pulpit is important and part of the ceremonial duties of the president. Im sure as you understand fighting Something Like the Opioid Epidemic takes money. Federal data show that medicaid currently pays for about onefourth of all Substance Abuse treatment, up onefourth from 1986. This is from the atlantic, losing expanded medicaid coverage would absolutely harm string our operation to address Opioid Addiction in eastern kentucky. Thats according to Public Health director crhristie green. Despite the dependance on medicaid as a way that people in the grips treat themselves, you, sir, voted on a budget that the hill reports. Theres a lot of unjust fewable provisions in this budget. On top of massive tax cuts for the rich, it cuts Vital National investments, citing more than 4 trillion in mandatory spending cuts including almost 2 trillion in cuts to medicare and medicaid. How can you justify voting fo are a budget that cuts the very funds needed to treat the opioid
addicted in your state . Well, there are people that are addicted to opioids that Arent On Medicaid so this affects a large group of people. But the majority of those who are addicted utilize medicaid in their treatment. How can you justify cutting those funds . Were still going to have medicaid. In kentucky we have a Medicaid Problem where we have too many people on medicaid but thats another story. With respect to this, i supported the 21st century cures act. Came to Congress Last november during the lame duck session. That was the first major bill i voted for. That provided 1 billion worth of funding that would be sent to the states to battle the opioid crises. 1 billion over two years. So i have supported increased drug funding. But you know, its going to take more than money. Weve spent a lot of money in america to fight this problem. Its only getting worse. I think we have to step back and i think that the president can lead this as far as trying to bring the federal government in line with the State Government and local governments. We have to have everybody working together. The hospitals, the courts, Law Enforcement, everybodys going to have to Work Together on this and we can do this without continue not without money. Hospitals actually rely on federal money, medicaid money, part of what they do. In kentucky 17 of the counties in your state tie for the highest rate of overdose deaths. Medicaid covers twofifths of the population. You have over 2,000 people on medicaid. Do you believe that these peefo can be treated without funding . If you take the money away how will those people be treated . Were not taking the money away. You voted for a budget that cuts it. Its a very large budget and what the president did today would allow transferring more money. We have a 20 trillion debt in america. We have to tighten our belts. Its unfortunate, but there are other avenues to fight drug abuse. Im a big behavior in
faithbased initiatives to help combat drug abuse. Quickly, i know were out of time but Doesnt The Budget that was just passed increase the debt . My understanding is the debt will go up because of this budget. This budget will lead to tax reform. How does that help the deficit . That increases the deficit. If you it increases the deficit if you assume theres not going to be growth. I believe that theres going to be growth. I believe that were going to allow every american to have more money, more businesses to have more money. In my district 80 of the people do not itemize on their tax returns. We are going to double the standard deduction in my poor district and i believe thats going to lead to more money in the economy, more growth, more jobs created. One of the issues with the Drug Epidemic is its a direct correlation to poverty. Most people that are on medicaid are poor and need medicaid funding and if you cut it
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many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. Lee. So, this week its robert e. Lee. I noticed that Stone Wall Jackson is coming down, is It Washington The Next week or thomas jefferson. You had very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Over two months ago donald trump set off a firestorm with those comments, defending and even identifying with the White Nationalist marching in charlottesville who clashed with counterprotesters and chanted nazi slogans. [ chanting ]
trump stood by those demonstrators even after one of their ranks plowed his car into a crowd of people, injuring dozens and killing 32yearolds expected his coddling of the nazi curious farright would become a republican rallying cry, particularly not in the very same state where the violence took place. But thats precisely whats happening in the race for governor of virginia. And well tell you about it right after this. Windshield. With safelites exclusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. Plus, with most insurance a Safelite Repair is no cost to you. Customer really . singers Safelite Repair, safelite replace. That ad for republican Ed Gillespies virginia gubernatorial campaign. That statue in the ad, the one hes talking about preserving, is almost identical to the statue of robert e. Lee that drew all those White Nationalist protesters to charlottesville in august, resulting in violent clashes and the death of one young woman. Gillespie is now running on the White Nationalists message and hes doing it with the full backing of the white house, with the president of the United States tweeting today, ed gillespie will turn the really bad virginia Economy Numbers around and fast, strong on crime, he might even save our great statue heritage. Gillespie might not seem like the most obvious advocate for the confederacy, hes an altright insider, and a pall who went on to found his own corporate lobbying firm. Once the architect of bushs proimmigration conservative platform, gillesplep gillespie
running menacing ad, portraying his componeopponent as a scary. The most recent poll has him up by 8 . Jason johnson is politics editor at the root and msnbc contributor and sarah rumpf is a republican strategy, opposed to donald trump. So sara, it was a treat by Gabe Schoenfeld that said, i worked with ed gillespie on the romney campaign, a great guy now covering himself in filth. What does it say about the Republican Party that one must cover themselves in that altright filth, as schoenfeld put it, in order to run for governor of virginia, of all places . Well, i do want to draw an important distinction, because donald trump is rightfully getting criticized for his fine people comment, because what happened in charlottesville was not a bunch of History Buffs and confederate War Reenactors showing up. It was an altright white
supremacist rally, it was organized by those groups, the National Policy institute, which is Richard Spencers group, the daily stormer, a White Supremacist website, and other groups like that. Thats what that was. So when trump called them fine people, thats why everyone got mad and criticized it. Now, that does not mean that everyone who is hesitant to take down the statues is a White Supremacist. Thats i dont think thats fair to say. And go on. When im looking at this, i honestly because we have this same issue in my hometown. My Middle School was robert e. Lee Middle School and our mascot was the rebels. And the local community decided and they renamed the school, its college park middle, its the bulldogs now. Thats great. This is something i think both the democrats and republicans are wrong. Whether you support taking the statues down, the majority of people who want the statues taken down want it done orderly, lawfully. They dont want vandals in the middle of the night blowing them up. And if youre someone who wants to preserve them, youre going to feel better about it if its
something that is discussed, Transparent Ly and openly. If its local referendums and local initiatives, as much as possible. And having a fair discussion in the local communities. Have the colleges where these things are hosted, the local parks, the cities, et cetera. All right, were not going into a whole fight, though. Were talking about this particular thing and i think jason wants in. Joy, this is the thing. This is whats entertaining to me about this. The ad says Ralph Northam is going to take down our statues. Hes not talking about me hes not talking about you. He says our. Hes talking about racists and bigots. People who see these things as symbolically important, not History Buffs. And what ed gillespie is doing, which is extremely problematic, is hes decided, look, since i cant seem to win this race, since im still four to five points behind by focusing on policy, im going to throw all of this red meat out there for the racists and the demagogues. Im going to talk about ms13, im going to talk about Sanctuary Cities, when there are no Sanctuary Cities in virginia
and use all of these distractions rather than focusing on the fact that you have two mainstream centerright democrats and republicans running against each other and cloak himself in trumpness. And that, you know, anyone who is running for governor who wants to use a Terrorist Attack Symbolism in order to get elected is not somebody i would want to vote for. And to that point, sarah, you do have a situation where this is where charlottesville took place. Virginia is, you know, a particularly, you know, sort of fraught place to have this kind of message. The virginia Republican Party tweeted and then took down a tweet and apologized for tweeting, Ralph Northam has turned his back on his own familys heritage in demanding monument removal. This is a pointed attack, because of charlottesville. Isnt it clear that ed gillespie is trying to ride that charlottesville negative wave into office . I mean, i think that it is a bit of a stretch to say that he is trying to ally with these altright people then whys he doing it . Hes from new jersey. He lives in virginia. Hes lived in virginia for a very long time. Hes been active in Virginia Republican politics. Has he been active in proconfederate politics. Proconfederacy, sort of defense of the Confederate Flag and that kind of thing . I dont remember that in his history. You know, im not an expert on the intricacies of virginia politics, but i do want to talk about this ms13 angle. Because i do find that very disappointing. Ed gillespie on criminal Justice Reform has an excellent record and his positions are very good. Theyre very much in line with the conservative criminal Justice Reform that has been successful in texas and other places. Right. Policies that are directing people to were running out of time. Let me give jason so were taking this angry ms13 ad is the wrong message. At the end of the day, if you actually want to get elected governor in a state, its not going to be about trump, its going to be about what you can do. You have to run on policy. And when you cant run on policy, you see candidates doing what like ed gillespie is doing. Im going to use race, im going to use dog whistles, aisim goi
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