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he was suggesting that the tens of thousands that youve been seeing right now live out on the streets expressing their First Amendment right to free speech and peaceful assembly, theyre quote professional protesters that are part of a plot and that their presence can be blamed on the media. No less than the man who will soon be the most powerful person in the world assailing both the pregs of freedom of assembly and that constitutionally protected activity. The tweets at the top of the feed for all to see until this morning when he followed up with this, love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud. Joining me now Filmmaker Michael Moore whose new film is Michael Moore in trumpland. Youve been monitoring the protests. Theyve been quite organic. I was in a cab going to a documentary meeting. All the traffic stopped, Whats Going On . Theres a protest out there. Talking, turn the tv off, hit record, then turn it off and go out. And if its not happening in your neighborhood, make it happen. Call up some friends or neighbors. This will go on all night tonight. Weve seen a reinvigoration in Street Protests with the obama administration. The black lives matter movement, some of the direct action thats been done on the environmental front particularly the dapl and Dakota Access pipeline where theres been a standoff, an incredibly brave showing of nonviolent force. Where do you see that going . Because it seems to me this is an expression of certain segments of society saying we do not approve of the rhetoric youve used or the plans that are laid out and we dont approve of our fellow citizens is being targeted. How does that build power, to your mind . First of all, this is going to grow larger than anything that weve seen in recent memory. We cant keep this going. Im just encouraging people right now, its okay to operate on your raw energy and emotion because our voices must be her. Look at trumps tweet you just showed. Hes talking about just had a great president ial election and now these protesters are out here. Very unfair. Very unfair. You know that hes rattled already . I mean, this should be the happiest week of his life and hes up, oh its a remarkable thing. People all across the ideological spectrum were taken aback by the tweet all protesters be honored by this that already the thinskinned donald trump. Imagine what happens when the crowds double tonight and triple tomorrow night. Because thats whats going to happen. What about people who say what you are advocating will only raise the temperature and heighten the country that is a polarized and frankly dangerous place . No. You dont think the countrys
both major party candidates, opposed by trump and Hillary Clinton voted for by no one and hes talking about it as if its a thing. Those first hundred days . How about the first ten days . Capitol hill will look like a Marx Brothers moving where theyll be whipping, who has got a bill, zing. Who has a bill . Zing. All those in favor, ding. And liberals will be like, whoa, wait a minute. Wait, thats not fair. You know . Yeah. Get the game face on, everybody now. Because they are deadly serious about this. And it will be years before we undo the damage of their first ten days. So quickly, remember clinton won the popular vote which you mentioned is number five on your list. Never forget that. There are four more. Take over the democratic party. Yes, immediately. Remove them all. Fire pundits who wont acknowledge reality. I see the desk is mostly empty here tonight. Thank you, chris. Thank you for sparing me your purge. Dems in congress who wont fight must go. Thats what the tea party did. Dont forget. It wasnt go after democrats. It did in terms of it showed up at the town hall. But first thing they did was primary republicans. At the spring break for congress, this coming spring, we are town halling these democrats and if they are not standing in front of trump and blocking his nominations to the supreme court, if they are not committed to a filibuster, were going to put them on notice that were going to primary them in two years and bring candidates that are going to win. I personally am going to be part of that process to make that happen. Stop saying youre stunned. Well, white people say
theyre stunned because, you know, i didnt see this coming. If youre black or hispanic, you know, if youre gay, if youve suffered under the oppressiveness of this system, you are not surprised by donald trump from day one. And when you heard him say on day one that mexicans were rapists and murderers, you knewite right then that there was trouble and there would be hell to pay. The train was coming. The train was coming. Weve got video of atlanta where people are assembling peacefully for protests to express their opposition to the President Elect of the United States donald j. Trump. Michael moore, thank you for being with me. Thank you, chris. You know, come on out, too, this weekend. I mean, i know we have to be a journalist and all that, but youre also a citizen of this country. Im a citizen. And in a democracy, that means youre an activist. Up next, the great Rachel Maddow joins me to talk about the massive conflicts in Donald TrumpsTransition Team as the
trump presidency approaches. Thats after the break. Later my exclusive interview with gold star father khizr khan on the trump election. Coaching means making tough choices. Jim youre in but when you have high Blood Pressure and need Cold Medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. Coricidin hbp is the only brand that gives powerful Cold Symptom Relief without raising your Blood Pressure. Coricidin hbp. Appointments are trumps three oldest children. First of all, the Transition Team is a Government Entity complete with a dotgov website and we have laws in this country about nepotism hiring. On top of that theres the fact that trumps kids are supposed to be taking over the Family Business in a socalled blind trust, although its not going to be. Set up to avoid conflicts of interest with the white house. According to a Trump Organization spokesperson, we are in the process of vetting various structures with the goal of immediate transfer of management of the Trump Organization its Portfolio Businesses to donald jr. Ivanka and eric trump along with a team of highly skilled executives. I wanted to talk to you because we get so much coverage of the Clinton Foundation which was the story went essentially a slush fund whereby people would donate to curry favor with the Secretary Of State or the future president of the United States. Were now having a situation in which this business enterprise,
which has no Public Disclosures because its privately held, run by the children of the sitting president , they will choose the people that staff the government like for instance the irs. Yeah. Theyre in that incredibly active, you know, kinetic role in terms of deciding who is going to be in the government. Also once the transition is over, even if he doesnt give them jobs in the government, the plan is theyll be running, continuing to run his Family Business empire. The whole idea of a blind trust is that the president is supposed to literally be unable to act using Government Policy in order to enrich himself or enrich herself because the trust is blind. The president doesnt know what investments he or she has, doesnt know whether or not something that hes doing in the u. S. Government will enrich him. In this case its not like people think he wont speak to his children and hell be in a position to advice them, to change things about the
companys plans in order to account for information that highway has specifically because hes president and theres no way that any of us will ever know that. It is a brick wall of a Conflict Of Interest even after this transition. And just to play this out a little bit more, right, a company thats seeking regulatory favors from the Trump Administration could offer ivanka a Discount Equity Stake for the trump portfolio and theres no disclosure i mean, thats an entirely feasible thing that could happen in the United States starting january 20th. And how would we know . How would we know when that is happening . We have no transparency here other than what the president will choose to disclose and i cant imagine hes going to disclose anything if hes calling this a blind trust, for example. The thing that is stunning to me about this is that this evolves
directly from his refusal to release his tax returns. Which he got away with. He got away with it. Everybody said that wasnt a law. Thats just a norm in our politics. And i guess that norm is broken now. I can see why you wouldnt want to disclose his tax returns. Its an invasion of his financial privacy and all that stuff. But then once your president , are you still not going to release your tax returns . Will you still not tell us about your financial entanglements . Were worried that youre going to use the power of the United States to enrich yourself and in fact on day one they already did. Because on his first dotgov web presence, hes listing his trump properties. Hes listing literally the name of his wifes qvc Shopping Channel jewelry line on his dotgov website. Theyre already using the resources of the government to enrich themselves while still not disclosing any of their other financial ties. Its mind boggling. This segues into the role of the media in all this. Because this is going to require
called for britishstyle libel laws in this country which is a way in other countries that dont have a First Amendment, they bankrupt reporters, they put publications out of business. They can keep people in fear of reporting on Public Officials in a way that you previously havent been able to do in this country. So to bring on peter thiel, this billionaire who is most famous in American Life not for the source of his wealth but because he used it to bankrupt and put out of business an online web source that he didnt like because of the way they reported on him, all of those things together, i think its a reasonable distraction for the press to have right now in terms of how the press will play defense in terms of its own role. In terms of our stance toward trump, one of the things that will be hard is just maintaining the level of newsiness, right . Right. Of outrage and continuing rejection of stuff that isnt okay, although hes been doing it for a long time by the time we get around to reporting. I found out talking with you last night and you were on air with that great, fascinating, Elizabeth Warren interview, when he tweeted, just had a very open and successful president ial election now professional protesters incited by the media are prosting. Very unfair. I was on air earlier showing protests. Because weve covered protests. Weve covered all sorts of protests over the years. Thats aimed at me. Thats a warning shot of the President Elect of the United States to folks who are doing their constitutionally protected and in fact civically sacred duty of reporting and free expression. I just wondered how you reacted to that . It is first of all, to call them professional protesters implies that theyre being paid. So hes alleging a conspiracy. Hes looking at those people in the street and alleging that hes a paid conspiracy of elites against him. Its a very short bridge from that for him to be then telling his supporters this is a paid conspiracy in the streets. Thats against the American People because you chose me as your leader. This is some sort of fifth column within the country. When you look at other countries and the way that they respond to dissent, and how they characterize what it means to protest against them as a threat that other citizens must respond to or they ask for their own supporters to get into the street and wage battles with them, it starts with characterizing protests as the product of a conspiracy. Its the way it happens. It usually happens in other languages. Were not used to it happening in this country. But thats a Strongman Style response to dissent the world over. Hes already as of last night already taken the first step town that road in the way they all do it. And they all do it the same way. I just feel a lot of international echoes. I worry mostly about donald trump, not about whether or not hes going to be able to pull off the things hes threatened to do. The thing i worry about the most, is how hell behave the first time he doesnt get what he wants, the first time he tried to do something and he cant do it. Whats he do when hes mad . He hasnt done well when hes angry or stymied in his time as a politician. It makes the job of reporters i think in this era and not to sound grandiose, but i think its the most important its been in the American Republic and i dont think thats a crazy hyperbolic thing to say. Chris, saying it that way, but theres also a real threat. Weve seen over the course of our time in journalism and our time in tv, weve seen the strain on local papers, local reporters, beat reporters, to,
people working as anchors at local tv stations are getting paid 19,000 a year and working at three other jobs. We talked to two other papers who broke the bridgegate scandal and the political component of the bridgegate scandal. We saw both of those news desks get gutted by their Parent Company because the biz model isnt there. Theres such pressure on those just having jobs doing this. And if were going to become convenient political targets in the way that trump is already signaling, were going to have to have a defensive strategy in mind and the country is going to have to decide in a broader way how were going to protect journalism in the same way we all are thinking about how were going to protect Muslim Americans and these kids that came out and let themselves be known as undocumented dreamers because of president obamas proposal who are now under deportation by donald trump and he said on day one. Weve got specific things that were threatened in new ways that
werent necessarily and we need a National Defense for those if those communities really need us. Thats extremely well put. Rachel maddow, my good, good friend, my comrade, my buddy. Chris, will you come on my show on monday . Yes, lets keep doing this. Will do. Thanks, my friend. Still to come, the next fight for democrats, finding a leader for a party in crisis. Believe we lost this election in the last week, comeys letter in the last 11 days helped depress our turnout and drove away some of the critical support from College Educated white voters particularly in the suburbs. His second letter intended to absolve Hillary Clinton actually helped to bowleser trumps turnout. Exit polls indicate that voters who decided who they were voting for more than a week before the election supported clinton. Voters who decided in the last week broke for trump by a larger margin. These numbers were even more exaggerated in the key battleground states. When you lose an election effectively by 110,000 votes across three states you can point to 10,000 things that were decisive. But its hard not to focus on the last shot. And the last shot in this election came from james comey. Now thats happened and in the past so for democrats trying to figure out where they can go
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