Telling pollsters they are already exhausted by this campaign. This day after labor day is the traditional start after all, of this fall campaign, today was about National Security for both candidates in preparation for this commander in chief forum here in new york, which will air on this network tomorrow night, more on that after this, and for which they appeared to be trotting out their talking points today. Hes very loose in his talk about nukes. He says he doesnt care if other countries get them. Doesnt know why they havent been used already. He says he has a secret plan to defeat isis, but the secret is, he has no plan. After all this talk, the only thing thats clear is he has no clue what hes talking about. I think it was 88 generals and admirals endorsed donald trump today, and these are the fighters. These are the fighters, not the political hacks that endorsed Hillary Clinton two or three weeks ago. Also today, him clinton again attacked donald trump for not releasing his tax returns, it came while she was speaking with reporters on her campaign plane. He said that americans dont care about his tax returnings, and he has also said its none of our business. I just think hes dead wrong. He clearly has something to hide. And appearing on fox news tonight, donald trump responded to that a short time ago. Nobody cares about it except some of the folks in the media, but just so you understand, im under audit, and when the audit is complete, ill release my returns. Meanwhile the latest polls are at least con fusing, in the poll of likely voters puts trump back on top by two points, the National Poll by the nbc News Survey Monkey puts trump on top in a four candidate contest. Our Political Correspondent chuck todd, a much higher concentration of white voters without a college degree, not impossible, but would be a history making shift from four years ago. In just a few minutes, well be talking to the Ohio Governor, john kasich on this race. But pittsburgh some of your campaign warriors are in our studio, casey hunt, who covers the Clinton Campaign, Halle Jackson who covers the Trump Campaign. We know theres obviously our big commander in chief forum happening on the intrepid. Youve got both candidates talking about national. Hillary clinton first, and donald trump has already previewed what hell talk about tomorrow in philadelphia, prior to that forum in new york city. Hell be focusing on the military. We can share that donald trump will be sharing rebuilding the military and will be calling an end to the defense sequester. He wants to stop these automatic budget cuts that are happening. This is not a particularly new kind of policy description, this puts donald trump in line with roughly many other republicans who also want to see the end to this. The big question is going to be, what is his plan to offset that increase, basically military spending. Theres a couple of ways that his aid says hell try to do that, one is to reduce government inefficients and another is to get rid of unauthorized spending, the budget. Were told trump will talk about the dollar figure. And theres still questions about what specifically he would do and whether it would be enough. And hell be going after Hillary Clinton on foreign policy, hitting this theme in North Carolina on adventurism as donald trump reveals more about how he plans to fight isis. Lets play what hes now saying, this is a new line from him. About his plan to fight terror. So were going to convene my top generals and give them a simple instruction, they will have 30 days to submit to the oval office, a plan for soundly and quickly defeating isis. We have no choice. So his generals will come up with a plan to defeat isis. Remember what trump has been saying for months, that he has a plan, that he doesnt want to talk about it because he wants it to be unpredictable. And casey hunt, on the clinton side of the ledger, she is preparing for this tomorrow night, which we will watch live, but also down the road to the debates. This is an attack shes been honing for months, this is where she first really found her comfort zone in going after donald trump. People in the clinton circle are nervous, theyre worried about the first debate. Theyre also have a little bit of fun, they have chosen the person whos playing donald trump in this debate prep. Its one person, so far the reviews are pretty good, they wont give up who it is. But they tell me, its not an actor, not a lawmaker, wont be somebodys name we even recognize. But donald trump has resisted this kind of forum debate prep. And this has been an intriguing secret that the Clinton Campaign is excited to let out of the bag at their leisure. This is not the kind of debate prep were seeing on the other side . I think theyre taking him on his word, but theyre not going to not prepare for that. You know how diligent Hillary Clinton is, someone who is a policy wonk just studies the debates. Whatever policy opposition that she can. The problem is, the places where you cant easily prepare for something. How do you take a candidate whose main strength is preparing, preparing and someone whos unpredictable. To our other friend, robert costa at the washington post, National Political reporter, and robert, sadly for you, you have often broken the next days news on the air. What do you like, whats on your radar for tomorrow . I think the speech halle brought up, the trump speech tomorrow in philly. Because trumps making an overture about these republican hawks, they have been wary about him for months, hes saying im going to increase defense spending, im going to get rid of the sequestesequester, hes for the hawks, for this chapter, stick with me. Its in philly, tough city for republicans, but hes also giving a little nod to the philly suburbs and saying im a security candidate, and they vote rich. They voted for george bush eight years as. So many folks in politics because of how mh its changed over the years. Its not just philly, its North Carolina, its ohio, its virginia, and you have these two candidates right now, were coming out of the holiday, theyre shadow boxing, both going to the same states, both talking to the same kind of voters, in this age of isis, you talk to the clinton insiders, they think the security minder voters, the swing voters, theyre really interested in National Security. Thank you very much for being with us, well probably lean on you again tomorrow night. Were going to talk about polls a lot at this hour, and remember, there are National Polls of likely voters and then there are the battleground states. They are still largely favoring the Clinton Campaign, possibly hurting trumps efforts in these states. His habit of picking fights with many of his republican critics, today the New York Times reported on how trumps feud with ohios republican Governor John Kasich could be costing the nominee ground game support from the loyal kasich gop network. Speaking to abc news, trump said he was disappointed in kasich for not offering an endorsement. This evening i had a chance to sit down with the Ohio Governor and i asked him whether he had any regrets about how he ran his congressional race or if he chose not to attend the Gop Convention in ohio. You can either operate on the dark side of the street, where everything is doom and gloom, or you can recognize the problems that people have and we can come together as a nation and we can overcome and solve those problems. And, look, the fact is that i kind of live on the sunny side of the street here, and i have no regrets at all. Heres the thing, brian, in politics, first of all, people like you to stick to your principles until its principles that they dont like. I have been around long enough to understand that. So that doesnt dissuade me. Secondly, politics is not bean bag for me, its a serious business, and when i talk about the things i talked about in the campaign and still talk about, im not going to change my position or walk away from them. And had i seen something that was unifying, fine. But im not spending my time going around attacking donald trump, im spending my time like im here tonight, helping the United States senators, traveling the country, will continue to. Doing political campaigning for republicans in the United States house and im helping governors, i was just in New Hampshire for chris sununu. I think i should direct this party in a direction can donald trump win ohio . Will donald trump win ohio . You know, the situation gets down to this. There are people, you takes youngstown, for example, where people feel that all the steel mills are going to come back, i dont think they are, we want manufacturing in ohio, but they are sort of yearning for yesterday, and we need to get into thinking about today and tomorrow, in some of these regions in ohio, hell do well. But the question is, what will the urban areas do for Hillary Clinton. I have always said if youre not a unifier, you have a hard time in ohio. Well see if that holds to be true. We still have labor day to election day to watch. Do you think if Hillary Clinton wins ohio, that will be ball game for her . The map has changed, but ohios really critically important, but there are other places that are in play now, North Carolina, virginia, that are in play now that werent in the past. I dont spend my time studying all these maps and go do my job and be governor of ohio and make sure we can unify and lift it. Will decency emerge from this Campaign Still alive and in style . As i always tell my friends in both the jewish and christian community, theres two things we have to recapture, what did moses bring down . And what did jesus said. Love your neighbor as yourself. We need to slow our lives down to live a life bigger than ourselves. The movie sully is coming out. The beauty of sully is he wouldnt get off that plan that landed in the hudson river until he got off that plane. Its in us, its written in our hearts, i do think we can unify, but these are unsettling, fast moving times but there are a lot of people that find themselves in the ditch, and we have to help them get out. John kasich goes to his local polli polling place, who do you vote for . Ill let you know. Ill let everyone know what i decide to do when i cast my vote. But up until now my words h perhaps willing to say who it is. Well have to wait and see along with everyone else. Our first break, and then coming up, how this long hot summer of 2016 may have fundamentally changed both candidates, certainly the way theyre campaigning tonight. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink rd i bought all the fruit. Veggies. And herbs needed to create a popup pickyourown juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows. We have some of the freshest juice in town. See what the power of points can do f your business. Learn more at chase. Com ink 80 of recurrent ischemic, strokes could be prevented. See what the power of points can do f your business. And im doing all i can to help prevent another one. A bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. 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If you have joined us by all our specials, were here with our family, political analyst eugene robinson, who happens to be a journalist for washington post, and nicole wallace, who served as Communications Director among other jobs for george w. Bush. And our campaign veteran and strategist, steve schmidt, welcome to you all. Its great to be here brian. I like to start with nicole. The changes you have noticed in these two candidates, what they did on their Summer Vacation . I think this long, hot summer changed our candidates in fundamental ways we would be remisto gloss over. She has for the last few day has held press gaggles on the plane, and she has traveled with them. They knew that would go a long way toward maybe addressing some of these questions about her being forthcoming. He on the other hand reads off a coup card every day. He made a point, no, i will not, you will not seen anyone other than the unscripted straight talking rally speech giving guy and hes now reading off a teleprompter more often than not. They both want to win and they both have been convinced by some people around them, at least some parts of the day, that they have vulnerabilities they need to address. Is this where you saw the campaign after labor day . Because theres no one in the business that i know that saw this coming a year ago, but with the closing gavel from the dnc convention, were now the day after labor day, is this kind of where you saw we had some of the best conventions in the democratic convention, and then you had the worst convention in the republican nomination. He was on the edge of going over the cliff, she was on the edge of putting this race away, she was over 50 . Chris wallace asked the question and she gives an inexpolitic kbl answer on her emails. And its come to labor day, despite all the mistakes that donald trump has made, and they are too many to catalog here this night. Shes ahead, shes ahead in the states that will decide the outcoming but he remains within striking distance and thats got to be worrisome to the Clinton Campaign. This strikes me as a kind of sneaky backdoor debate, this is more than an early dress rehearsal, i think people who have been in the fog of labor day, perhaps running from fake hurricanes, this may come up fast on people, and while its one before the other, its hillary before donald trump. And its going to be an event. Youll turn it on and theyll be talking. What each are trying to do is make the evening about the other. Because when its a referendum on donald trump, Hillary Clinton does very well, when its a referendum on donald trump Hillary Clinton, donald trump does very well. It will be interesting to see if trump is able to bluff his way through that, or tries to bluff his way through that or just falls back on make america great. Asked donald trump the difference between sunni and shiia. Do you think it matters who goes first or second . I think the expectations for donald trump are so low, because shes been so successful in creating a caricature of him. Where she shows the kids watching some of his wacky remarks, if he goes up there and speaks in a low convincing tone, he will exceed expectations. Theres an even tougher spot out tonight on veterans featuring among others max cleland and in the background is donald trump talking about sacrifice. Donald trump is temp mentally unfit to have thousands of Nuclear Weapons under his command. Well see tomorrow if she pulls that punch or if she drives it home. Thats a unique argument in this day and age, when you get into the contrast these candidates lay out. 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