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Individual or series of individuals. Well go live to canada for the very latest. Then, new details from ferguson. We now have the official autopsy for michael brown, and a cascade of leaks from the grand jury. What is going on . Plus, midterm turn around. Democratic funding heads back to kentucky as the race tightens up. We take an indepth look at the republican governors in blue states up for reelection. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Were awaiting an address from the Prime Minister of canada tonight as that country reels in the wake of a deadly shooting in the Nations Capital of ottawa. At this hour the shooter has been identified as michael zehafbibeau, formerly michael hall, a 32yearold canadian who is a convert to islam. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported he had a criminal record. Including drug related offenses. The lone victim has been identified as 24yearold Corporal Nathan cirillo, guarding the war memorial, seen here on the left. Where the shooting began. And Kevin Vickers is the man who shot and killed zehafbibeau where the melee came to an end. The hourslong chaos and the lockdown of the Canadian Capital as well as a wide range of precautions taken in the u. S. Began at 9 52 a. M. This morning when Police Received 911 calls of shots fired at the war memorial. Corporal Nathan Cirillo was shot, rushed to ottawa hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Multiple witness accounts say the shooter carrying a longbarrelled weapon ran toward the nearby street. Theres also amateur video purporting to show the gunman getting into a car by the national war memorial. Authenticity of the video has not been verified by nbc news. Members of Canadas Parliament had just started caucus meetings when at approximately 9 56, four minutes after the shooting at the war memorial, shots rang out inside the halls of the parliament building. A reporter for the globe mail captured the moment that happened. [ inaudible ] [ gunshots ] as that incredible footage indicates, there were multiple rounds fired inside the parliament building, although unclear which were from the gunman and which are from those trying to apprehend him the shooter, identified as michael. He half bibeau, was shot and killed by Kevin Vickers, sergeantatarms, a former member of the Royal Canadian mounted police. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper apparently was in the parliament at the time and was hustled out by security. Police rushed to evacuate the building, secure the site. Some Parliament Members reacted to the shooting by piling chairs against doors, according to nbc news, s. W. A. T. Teams methodically escorted people to safety, and while Police Ultimately secured the site, part of the initial chaos centered on concern over possible multiple shooters. There were also reports of shooting at a third site, a the rideau centre, a shopping mall, police later said there was no shooting at that third site. Three people were admitted to the hospital with minor nonlife threatening injuries related to the shootings. They have all been released. After the shootings and ever widening lockdown of downtown ottawa ensued, police fanned out across ottawa, and there was a manhunt on the presumption there might be more than one shooter amid a situation that Ottawa Police describe as fluid and ongoing. Part of the context for the canadian reaction was the fact that canada had elevated its Terror Threat level just last week. And two days ago, a radical jihadist, also a convert, ran over two soldiers at a suburban mall in montreal, killing one of them. Its been declared a terrorist attack this afternoon, president obama called Prime Minister harper to voice americas solidarity with canada and later had this to say. It emphasizes the degree to which we have to remain vigilant when it comes to dealing with these kinds of acts of senseless violence or terrorism. And i pledged, as always, to make sure that our National Security teams are coordinating very closely given not only as canada one of our closest allies in the world, but theyre our neighbors and our friends, and obviously theres a lot of interaction between canadians and the United States where we have such a long border. Immediately after the incident began today, the north American Aerospace Defense Command was placed on high alert. The u. S. Embassy in ottawa was placed on lockdown, security was increased at the tomb of the unknown soldier in washington. Canadian interests in new york and washington were also reportedly provided extra security. Joining us now from the scene is vassy, correspondent for global national. My understanding is that you were there this morning. What was the scene like . Reporter i was. Our studios, actually, chris, are just above the war memorial. And we had a birdseye view of what happened. I heard one of my colleagues shout out, someone say someones being shot. And i literally immediately went down on the elevator and got outside. I think i was outside about two minutes after the actual shooting. The scene, i can tell you, was, you know, its a very public area. It was just before 10 00 this morning. There were a number of passersby what witnessed what happened, had eyewitness accounts really. They were stunned, they were shocked. A number of them went toward the victim, started performing cp rchlt after that, within minutes, police had arrived. A huge police presence. They started, you know, making up backs us up, cordoning off the area. And from then, you know, the situation kept unfolding. And as you mentioned earlier, it was a very fluid situation. There was there were reports earlier of possibility of two shooters. That there was one at each location. Its a little unclear in the subsequent events of the days that played out. And weve heard from Police Authorities and canadian authorities whether there remains an active manhunt or an active search for any possible accomplices. Whats the latest on that . Yeah. Thats a great question. And its one thats being asked continually throughout the day. Because i can tell you that even though once we had confirmed that the one shooter was dead, the one suspect was dead, much of this area was still under lockdown. In fact, ive just received word that lockdown in parliament has finally been lifted. But just even 45 minutes ago, we were told, no, if youre in downtown, stay where you are. The situation is still very fluid. So, there has been no confirmation that there are other shooters or other suspects, but, you know, the situation wasnt totally resolved when the first shooter was shot dead, which led many to wonder whether there are other suspects. Rcmp never confirmed that specifically. Its clear they were looking for more. We dont know at this point if more suspects have been arrested. But perhaps the Prime Minister who is expected to address canadians very shortly will be able to tell us about that. Yeah, were getting word, actually, that Prime Minister harper is just about to address the nation. Thank you for being here. That is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Hes been set to address the nation tonight. And he is about to speak after the shooting today. There he is. My fellow canadians, for the second time this week there has been a brutal and violent attack on our soil. Today, our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Corporal Nathan cirillo. Corporal cirillo was killed today, murdered in cold blood, at that sacred place that pays tribute to those who gave their lives so we can live in a free, democratic and safe society. Likewise, our thoughts and prayers remain also with the family and friends of the officer killed earlier this week by an isilinspired terrorist. Tonight we also pray for the speedy recovery of the others injured in these despicable attacks. Fellow canadians, weve also been reminded today of the compassionate and courageous nature of so many canadians. Like those private citizens and First Responders who came to provide aid for Corporal Cirillo as he fought for his life. And, of course, the members of our security forces. Who came quickly and at great risk to themselves to assist those of us who were close to the attack. Fellow canadians, in the days to come, we will learn more about the terrorist and any accomplices he may have had. But these weeks events are a grim reminder that canada is not immune to the types of terrorist attacks we have seen elsewhere around the world. We are also reminded that attacks on our security personnel and on our institutions of governance are by their very nature attacks on our country, on our values, our society, on us canadians as a free and Democratic People who embrace Human Dignity for all. But let there be no misunderstanding, we will not be intimidated. Canada will never be intimidated. In fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our efforts and those of our National Security agencies to take all necessary steps to identify and counter threats and keep canada safe here at home. Just as it will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our efforts to work with our allies around the world and fight against the terrorist organizations who brutalize those in other countries with the hope of bringing their savagery to our shores. They will have no safe haven. Well, today has been without question a difficult day. I have every confidence that canadians will pull together with a kind of Firm Solidarity that has seen our country through many challenges. Together we will remain vigilant against those at home or abroad who wish to harm us. For now, lorraine and ben and rachel and i, join all canadians in praying for those touched by todays attack. May god bless them and keep our land glorious and free. [ speaking in french ] all right. That was canadian Prime Minister stephen happen er, addressing te nation of canada today after the attack in ottawa. Defiant, saying the nation would not be referring to the attack as a terrorist attack. He is now giving that same address in french. And joining me now is chief Political Correspondent for global national, tom clark. We learned an hour or two ago, the name of this individual identified as the shooter who was shot and killed by actually the sergeantatarms of parliament, which is a pretty remarkable wrinkle here. This individual zehafbibeau, that is not his given name. What do we know about him so far . Well, we know hes known to police, chris. Because hes got a long criminal record. Possession of marijuana, pcp, for which he served 60 days. That was in vancouver. And the other end of the country in montreal, he was arrested for robbery. He was arrested for whats called uttering threats. I think he served a day for that. And then he sort of went underground for about three years, lost track of him. But heres what else we know about him, chris. Is that the Security Services in canada known as csis had their eye on this person for some time. They were so worried that he was radicalized and may go over to syria and iraq to join isil that they lifted his canadian passport so he couldnt travel. We also know that the person who ran over those other Canadian Forces members just yesterday was also on that watchlist and also had his passport taken by our Security Services. So, he wasnt a complete surprise to authorities. They had their eye on him. But there wasnt much they could do. So this is interesting to me. There has been a lot of talk about isis, people being radicalized in the u. S. Or canada, australia or a number of places and going to join isis. It seems canada implemented a policy in which they have sorted preemptively disallowed travel by people they feel are possible threats. But there is no crime to charge them for which puts them in what appears in the last week a strange space in which youre you have people that youve kept in the country, who you view as possible threats, and then it seems in the span of a week two of them have actually gone on to commit pretty heinous acts. And thats going to be looked at, chris. I mean, that very question that you raise. Because we know there are 88 of them. Now, weve got to start looking pretty quickly at the other 86 whose passports have also been lifted, who are also on the watch list by csis, because is there a connection between these two things . But, you know, its kind of like that movie minority report, you try to prevent a crime before it actually happens. And that is fraught with all sorts of difficulties and problems. However, at the same time, these people were prevented from going over to the middle east to create atrocities over there. Unfortunately, they committed atrocities here. So, do we know any more obviously, its an early stage of the reporting. We have the name of this person. I havent even seen news outlets with a confirmed photo of him. There was an isis account tweeting a photo they said was of him. Do we have a back story about this individuals conversion, his influences, his motivation, anything like that as of yet . No, we dont. And ill tell you why. It is that when he sort of submerged for three years. Now, he did, supposedly, convert to islam. But and that could have been the thing that brought him to the attention of authorities. But clearly it was his criminal record. I mean, heres a guy whos been known to police since 2004. They know this is a bad guy. And now this extra layer came on and he changed dress, he changed demeanor, and thats what brought him to the attention of authorities. But beyond that, we really dont know. Is there another gunman around ottawa tonight . The authorities dont know. They knew that there were two people or like eyewitnesss said, there were two people in that car that rolled up to Parliament Hill and they havent found the other one yet, which is why even though the lockdown supposed lockdown is over. Whats really happening is theyre evacuating women and children from the centre block, the Main Building on Parliament Hill first. Others will then be allowed to go. But its part of an evacuation of Parliament Hill because they are going to go office by office, nook and cranny, by nook and cranny, just to be absolutely sure there is no second accomplice still on Parliament Hill. Tom clark, thank you very much. More on this breaking story to come. Todays incident was the second time this week the muslim convert killed a canadian soldier. What happened in canada on monday ahead. Moments ago reporters and photographers were on lockdown at the white house after yet another person jumped the fence. Officials tell nbc news tonight the jumper got 20 to 25 yards from the fence before he was tackled by officers and dogs. He is being treated for his injuries. No word yet on his motive. Ottawas parliament this morning, mcsweeney was on the phone with his editor when shots rang out. Heres what he recorded. I dont know. Theres a bunch of gunshots. Theres a guy with a shotgun out there. A guy with a shotgun . Yeah. I you sa him come in. Go over there. Go outside go outside get out get out where do we go . Where do i go . This way . Yeah, outside. First door on your left. Go down the stairs. Okay, cashner thank you. Yeah. Are you rolling on me right now . Okay. Im in im in a Security Office right now. Apparently somebody has walked up to the front steps of Parliament Hill with a single guy came in with a shotgun. The attacks in ottawa come amid a heightened alert of the threat of islamist terrorism. Zehafbibeau is the second muslim convert to kill a canadian soldier this week. Just two days ago, a lone assailant in quebec rammed two Service Members with a car in a hitandrun killing one in what officials are considering a terrorist attack. What took place yesterday is clearly a link to a terrorist ideology. I am horrified by what took place here. This is a terrible act of violence against our country, against our military, against our value. The assailant, martin rouleau, who was fatally shot by police after a highspeed chase became radicalized after converting to islam about a year ago. According to canadian authorities, rouleau was stopped at the airport while trying to leave for turkey. Lacking evidence to charge him, the rcmp released rouleau and edding him to a list of 90 people with ties to terrorism. Canada has been on alert discussing potential isisinspired knife and gun attacks against u. S. And canadian targets inside canada. That discovery coming shortly after Prime Minister Stephen Harpers announcement earlier this month that canadian warplanes would deploy to fight against isis. Last month, an isis spokesman explicitly called on followers to launch their own attacks on civilians in the west. Quote, if you can kill a disbelieving american or european or an australian or canadian or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens, then rely upon allah and kill him in any manner or way, however it may be. Yesterday the canadian government confirmed it had raised its own