Smith serious authorities not commenting on this investigations yet. Back in the u. S. There are growing concerns about a double homicide in the University Of Colorado dorm room. Police have not identified any suspects in friday shooting and are not saying whether the victims were students. In the Special Sunday Service today, joel austins Lakewood ChurchSecurity Officers and First Responders after last sundays shooting. This is the shooters sevenyear old son who was shot in the head in the gunfight remains hospitalized in critical condition. In just moments msnbcs own joy reid is going to join me to talk about the mountain of money donald jump has to pay up in his legal fines and fees, plus her new book. Medgar admirably. I bid you all very good day from los angeles, welcome everyone to alex witt reports. Breaking news now adds following the death of alexei navalny. New video shows interested in moscow, at least 400 have been detained. Something of a catandmouse game between mourners and officials at st. Petersburg have officials removing flowers laid in tribute to navalny, and mourners quickly adding new ones to make a makeshift memorial. Also new with a growing chorus from both sides the political aisle. That congress should approve funding for ukraines fight against russian leader Vladimir Putin. Our job right now if you talk about avenging the death of the hero navalny if you talk about anything for our democracy and for our Economic Partners across the world it is to get the Security Package over the line. President biden told putin if something happens to navalny youre gonna play a price. President biden, i agree with you. The price they should pay is to make russia state sponsored terrorism like iran, cuba, and north korea. They deserve this designation, putin has been killing people Opposition Leaders for decades now. Well one politician whos not commented publicly on navalnys death, gop president ial run front runner donald trump. Hes coming to focus on his legal troubles. The country, the clays is a complete and total sham, its a sham case. There were no victims, no default snow damages, no complaints, no nothing. There is nothing. Sounding the alarm, a popular radio host shares his concerns about the upcoming elections. Do you think trump is going to win . I dont know, but thats whats scary about it, right. Because when you look at everything hes done, the attempting coup of this country, but the Supreme Court judges on who got rid of roe v. Wade, takes credit, said i am the one who got rid of roe v. Wade. Says me, i did that. When you see all of that it really shouldnt be close, right . Well weve got reporters analysts, and nbc joy reid ready to cover all of these big developments for us, were gonna begin with nbcs Jillian Frankel early voting is already underway. Julian, you have the Republican Party in michigan who has been dealing with plenty of its own internal chaos ahead of this primary. Is it totally prepared, and tell me what were hearing from voters . Lets start with the trump piece of that first, alex. The former president was on the ground here in michigan last night, railing against that new york civil fraud piece, criticizing the Attorney General the judge calling that case a total sham. Thats not the only legal drama he mentioned last night. He also criticize Fulton CountyDistrict Attorney fani willis, accusing her of financially profiting from her relationship with the special prosecutor nathan wade. He also said theres a double standard between his case, his classified documents case and President Bidens. I spoke with voters at his rally last night about these legal cases and what it all means for the election. Take a listen. My mother is here shes 93 years old. She wants to live to vote for donald trump. She says that every day. We want to bring back the america, the way it used to be. Ive been through many elections and this one has been the rocky asked, but i am for trump 100 . And you heard it there alex trumps most ardent supporters often agree with the former president that those legal cases are nothing more than a witch hunt. Heading over to the michigan gop side of things youre right its been mired by infighting. There are two people claiming to be the state party chair, the rnc has not weighed in saying its peacock struck who also receive trumps endorsement but Christina Crimea who has held deposition says its not up to the rnc, she said shes maintaining her position and shes also maintaining control of the State Parties email accounts so all of this is leading to serious confusion heading into the caucuses on march 2nd. Alex . Okay, well be watching marc second very closely. Thank you so much, julian. Joining me right now, joyce vance former u. S. Attorney now Law Professor at the university of alabama, school of law. Shes also an nbc news and nbc legal analyst and cohost of the sisters ahmaud cast. And look at you here, we have joy reid, host of the read out on shes also the author of the new book medgar and are merkley, medgar evers and the love story that awakened america. Ive read excerpts, im so excited to talk to you about it. But first, joyce. Were gonna do the legal thing. Trump is looking at astronomical legal fines and fees. Just from the recent lawsuits hes filed and all those lawsuits have been filed against him. What actual math you think hes going to need to put up to appeal the latest ruling from judge engoron . Astronomical is right. Alex its not just the amount of judgment, hes also got to pay Pre Judgment Interest on the amount that was awardeds. That means hes looking at someplace just north of 400 and 55 million as a total amount the bond that will be required if he wants to pursue an appeal will have to be sufficient to guarantee that entire payment. That means were talking about very likely havent to liquidate assets to get their. There may be some accommodation because of the high dollar amounts but this is not going to be an inconsequential bond when things shake down. What is that usually . Its usually 10 or more . Four bonds . So you know, it can really vary. Its a matter of state law, this is a state case and its a civil case, federal appellate bonds are a little bit different and weve looked at that sort of situation in other cases, but typically the rule in the situation like this is you have to get a bond that secures the entire amounts of the judgment against you, which means that you have to have that collateral on hands. That is increasingly a problem for donald trump because much of his collaterals played against other loans. Itll be very interesting to watch how this develops. Yeah, for sure. So joy new York Attorney general Letitia James pointed out that every Day Americans cant lie about their net worth together mortgage or get a college loan, but trump continues to protest that there was no crime and no victim. Why are the victims of this lost on trump . Right. The reality is his own former lawyer Michael Cohen was prosecuted for taking out a second mortgage on his own home from a bank that he paid back because he was taking out that loan to give Stormy Daniels 130,000 to cover up an affair that she had with donald trump. And so if his own former lawyer should be prosecuted for that, and could be by his own Attorney General, who then rim present him because he wanted to write a book and when it refused to do it, theres all sorts of irony there. The reality is, this is something that gets prosecuted all the time when its an ordinary person. Donald trump has lived outside and Above The Law for his entire life. Hes gotten away with not paying his taxes he ran a Sham University that took a long time for the state of new york to unravel, and hes gotten away with it for so long i think hes just used to impunity and then assume that the presidency gave him even more. Yeah, while things may be changing now because joyce you have donald trump who last night attacked Fulton County d. A. Fani willis following the evidentiary hearing last week. This from a legal perspective is my question. Did trump prosecuting that Georgia Election case . No. Theres absolutely nothing there, this is all been a lot of smoke and an effort at character simpson a shunt against willis. No ones defending her judgment in having a relationship with someone she was working with, but that is not the issue for the court to decide here. Its whether, under georgia law, she should be disqualified from the prosecution. That requires some form of a financial conflict of interest. Georgia law is pretty clear to disqualify a prosecutor in a case like this you would need to show for instance that they had some sort of an inappropriate financial interest in the outcome of the case and thats not what was shown here so judge mcafee should, therell be a little bit more testimony next week he certainly giving the defense in trumps codefendants every opportunity to make out their case but theres not really any beef here. Okay, but joy, playing devils advocate here what happens if trump and his codefendants are successful at getting willis removed from the case. Im curious what your assessment is and what kind of Domino Effect that would create. I think obviously it would cradle trump wants, which is delays. Theres no way on the facts, he would win any of these cases. He would be convicted because theres tape of him asking for 1100 Thousand x number of votes to steal the election in georgia. What he wants is for a disqualification to result in whats happened in a similar case in georgia where its been 18 months and the state has still not reappointed a new prosecutor. I have to add here that not only is there no case here but in stretching to try to create a financial incentive that apparently theyre trying to allege fani willis would have had to prosecute 19 people for trying to steal the election somehow for a financial incentive in order to go on vacation with her not even current boyfriend that is a fellow prosecutor . Number one, how insulting is it to try and alleged that this prosecutor created a case that essentially is about the attempt to steal votes of Georgia Voters for financial incentive, number two to try to say that she required money to go on vacation with this other prosecutor is absurd, it is insulting i think every woman who watched her testify to the fact that shes got her own money a man is not a plan she said. She was rightly insulted and angry at the insinuation. As a black woman i think a lot of people like me watched it and were insulted on her behalf, and very proud of her for standing up for herself. The last thing ill say is i am old enough to remember the oj simpson case, and i highly doubt that oj simpson wouldve had a case to say that marsh clark and one of the other prosecutors that i kept members name they African American prosecutor who later admitted they were in a relationship at the time i highly doubt og simpson wouldve had a case to say that prosecution was invalid because of that. Yeah. Point well taken on that. Let me ask you quickly, joy about the Supreme Court on trumps Immunity Claims do you expect chief Justice Roberts to decide quickly on whether not to get involved and to effectively delay trumps d. C. Election trial . This seems to be the easiest case that the Supreme Court has ever had in front of them, and im not a lawyer, joyce is a greater expert tonight i clearly on that but if you read the case underlying it the idea that donald trump would have absolute immunity and his own lawyers arguing that that would include being able to use s. E. A. L. Team six to kill his political opponents that is a nobrainer and i hope that the Supreme Court will be expeditious in affirming what should be obvious to every american, that no person is Above The Law and that the president is simply citizen trump after that term is over and that donald trump absolutely does not enjoy absolute immunity, it would be absurd. I would think on this and on the case of whether he violated Section Three of the 14th Amendment its clear that he did but the Supreme Court is as we no, they dont seem to make clear cases strictly on the constitution, sometimes they are politicians and so we will see the politics of these two cases are but it seems clear that at least on the immunity question this should be open and shut and they should affirm it. I dont think they need it because the d. C. Circuit was clear, but i think would be nice to have the Supreme Court affirm that president cannot kill his political opponents using our military. What do you think, joyce is going to be the greatest influence on the Supreme Court as it weighs this Immunity Request from trump . I think joy discusses exactly the key fact if trump has immunity for the conduct that he engaged in and that hes charged with here then theres very little thats off the table and this example that he could for instance direct government assets to assassinate political allies would be the result of a ruling in his favor so the only real question here is not about how the Supreme Court will rule its about how quickly theyll do its. Right now the issue that the Special Counsel has teed up is the right of the American People to a speedy trial trumps lawyer say thats not the case trump is entitled to lots of time to figure out a way to defend and the Supreme Court will have to decide between those two different Points Of View and really its a decision about whether or not we are continuing to be a democratic nation where president s can be held accountable just like anyone else can. Joyce, it seems like the Hush Money Trial in new york that might be the first criminal case to get started, its scheduled mark 25th and our Colleague Mark trump is not going to try to delay this trial because he can spin any outcome to his benefit out on the Campaign Trail. Do you agree with that . Well its tough to spin the outcome of a trial from prison and of course we dont know whether the judge would be inclined to take him straight into custody if he is convicted or if he would get an appeal bonds, but i suppose thats one dynamic there but look its one thing to spin a case before its tried, its an entirely different thing after the fact. There will be reporting, there will be transcripts of testimony from witnesses and there will be a jury of Donald Trumps peers who will pass judgment on whether he is guilty or not, we know the Jury Verdicts carry great verdict for the public, there are polls when a number of republican and independent voters have said they would be turned off from voting for the former president if he is convicted in a case so watch trump to say that this case is insignificant, that is an important, that its a witch hunt. The reality is this is a case about Election Interference and donald trump trying to keep key facts away from American Voters on the eve of an election. I think the outcome of this case if theres a conviction will be monumental and donald trump will have a lot of trouble spinning it away. Yeah, i want to thank you joyce, enjoy wanda i also watch the oj simpson case, and it was darden, it is Christopher Darden that was the attorney with Marshall Clark in the l. A. D. A. s office. Anyway, thank you very again joyce can get all the new deeps on your book medgar and nearly. Thats coming up shortly. Meantime we have some new information of the death of alexei navalny, four back in 60 seconds. Back in 60 seconds. Charmin ultra strong cleans better with fewer sheets and less effort. [inaudible] a subway series footlong. Except when you add on an all new footlong sidekick. Were talking a 2 footlong churro. 3 Footlong Pretzel and a five Dollar Footlong cookie. 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