all, i'm alex witt in fo jasmine disobedient. the former president on th move today to a florida golf club not to new york, at least no yet, that will happen closer t his tuesday arraignment on wha we now know is about 3 charges. the former president is facing criminal indictment. his legal team is publicly defined. >> he is a whole lot i mar-a-lago, he will face this, we will face it. we will be successful and sure president trump will not take plea on this case. >> the woman at the center o this case, stormy daniels, see this as a vindication. >> it is revealed that i was telling the truth. i didn't lie about anything. all the details came out all of these concepts ar cleared up and you know, a person in power is not exemp from the law, no matter what your job is or your bank account, you are hel accountable for the things you've done and said justice is served. >> in addition to all of this, we are following breaking news of at least 11 people dead i tornado sweeping through the south and midwest. >> i look back and there was the tornado coming up over the hill i got out of my truck an started running for shelter. i made it into one of th little salons over here. i got in and as i got in, huddled up against the cemen barrier. every single glass window blew out and people were blown back i held on, it must of been a minute just huddled, i thought i was a donor for sure >> we have a live report comin up we begin with the former president set to travel to new york on monday for his arraignment. he and manhattan da alvin brag gear up for the start of a trial already being played out in the court of public opinion let's go to ivan joining u from west palm beach i mar-a-lago let's talk about what donald trump has been up to today and what happens on tuesday. >> right, we have no officia major plans from donald trum here for this weekend. that is until he is set to fly from a palm beach internationa airport to laguardia airport just outside of new york cit on monday evening. we are about 48 hours from tha taking place what we do know is that he i presently at his golf club trump international golf club, just a few miles from where we are here in west palm beac florida. our friend, our colleague, our mr. everything gary is currently shooting some videos as you can see right there o the couple dozen supporters. he said that there are signs from folks, one sign we believe that this would indicate that trump has been playing golf over the course o the last few hours he spent yesterday evening attacking not only mahan district attorney alvin bragg, but also the judge in new york said to oversee his case on hi social media accounts. for donald trump, this i really just a waiting game this process is out of his control. he will be a rain on tuesday he will have the charges against a red. even this will go to trial likely just a few months fro now, alex. >> we are also hearing fro trump's most high-profile rival, rhonda scent is who is now having to come to his defense. what are we hearing from the florida governor >> right, this is peak donal trump if i may we have seen this time and again over the years from th 2016 campaign throughout his presidency dating back to august when the mar-a-lago, the search warrant was executed by the fbi to loo for those classified documents you have seen republicans, especially those at the to continued to circle around and defend donald trump from wha they say is prosecutoria misconduct, investigations tha are part of the deep state rhonda santas here is of cours the latest likely his chief rival for the presidential nomination on the republican side in 2024. after this indictment is becoming formal, rhonda scen is just a few moments ago up i pennsylvania had this to say about the pending indictment and on trump going back to new york, take a listen. >> and now you have this manhattan district attorney. now he turns around, purely fo political purposes and indites a former president o misdemeanor offenses that they are straining to try to conver into felonies. that is when you know that the law has been weaponized fo political purposes that is when you know that the left is using that to target their political opponents. [applause] i can tell you this, these soros, they are a menace t society. they are a menace to the rul of law >> alex, i think - is important that when we play soundbites like that, we com back to the reality that we di not know what the charge against trump are or what they specifically are stemming from neither does rhonda scent is neither does trump or his ow attorneys. the indictment is not said t be unsealed until donald trump is arraigned on tuesday. that is when we will have better understanding what you've heard from ron desantis is the mere fact that and diamond has been issue against donald trump, that's what they claim to b politically motivated. again, ultimately it will be u to a jury to determine whether donald is guilty or not, not anybody on the political scene or us. >> we will have to see if thos charges are revealed, mayb they are jumping the gun thank you very much ro hilliard for that. on the witness - the trial is still far off stormy daniels is alread saying that she's prepared t take the stand >> i had a zoom call with th prosecutors and i told the what i did, i made it clea that i was willing to go on th stand and tell my story if the needed me. i have yet to actually b called or any of that. i fingers crossed, i do. i'm not afraid, i've nothing t hide i look forward to tellin everybody what i know. >> while she says that she i not afraid of trump, she doe worry about potential violence being stoked among his supporters let's bring in joyce vance former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, she's also th co-host of the sisters in la podcast. welcome joyce, good to hav your insights here how valuable of a witness to think stormy daniels is at thi point and will michael cohen b more critical to the da's case >> so, we are all working little blind alex in the sense that vaughn hillyard jus reminded us that we have not seen the charges yet we don't know precisely what evidence will need to back the up if those people expect the charges to center on the payments that were made to stormy daniels in a last-ditch effort to keep her from sharin the story of her affair with the former president on the ev of the 2016 election, then i is possible that the prosecution will need her to take the witness stand they might also be able to mak the case for documents without subjecting her to that experience one thing prosecutors will d is that they will make a ver cut and dry decision about which witnesses are essentia to provide direct testimony on topics that are critical t obtaining a guilty verdict that means is very likely that will see michael cohen as corroborated witness on th witness stand. >> there has been thes concerns that the case could b hard to prove, but michael cohen's lawyer says there is actually a pretty cure paper trail, take a listen >> it is tremendousl documented they don't have a clue he knows nothing about the evidence that is being compiled by pounding away and michael cohen, even though he ha established his credibilit over and over again in public, they can do that, maybe that i a good thing for me becaus they are going to be looking foolish once the evidence is known. >> we don't know the charges but would the defense team b in the dark about the evidence >> i think that they would b in large part because there is no realistic project that he would agree to plead guilty. there's no motivation fo negotiations here. look at alex, it is very important for our viewers to understand, we are not hearing anything from prosecutors abou their case this indictment is still sealed, they are prohibited by the court from discussing anything other than the fact that a indictment exists. what we during right now is back and forth between trump and witnesses, trump and other politicians. none of this is authoritative, none of this really gives offs any kind of insight into wha those charges are and what evidence will be necessary something that i think that we can take away, at least in regards to michael cohen i that because he has prio convictions and thos convictions include fals statements that he mad previously, prosecutors will need to corroborate all of thi testimony. it makes sense to me that ther would be a strong paper trai so that jurors could listen to his testimony and then hav some objective evidence that helps them appreciate that h is telling the truth in this trial, whether he told or no in the past. >> you know joyce, you wrote that while others may have suggested that the charges are in significant, you don't thin there are, why >> you know, there is a certai irony here that we are looking at possibly for potentia criminal cases against a forme president. the conversation that we are having is, will these charges, they are not very important. this is four separate potentia instances of criminality by sitting president of the unite states i think that is something that is getting lost a little bit i the conversation as to the manhattan charges, this comes out of an effort by donald trump, perhaps hi earliest want to manipulate an investigation. it is 2016, the election i almost upon us the access hollywood tape ha been released and it has been major stumbling block for trump, even mike pence has been publicly critical. another scandal of the sam magnitude on the same subjec could have cost him support of the evangelical community, could have costume support o traditional republican voters. the fact that lawyers, wha they like to call the ball o wax, the facts that underlie this prosecution have thei origin in an effort to manipulate an election, that seems very important to me it's is kind of like trump's origin story as someone wh interferes in elections. >> joyce vance, not quite done with you, stay with us, we hav a few more questions for you later on this hour, thanks for this we're gonna have more on the trump indictment throughout th hour but we are back in just 60 seconds, live after a deadly tornado outbreak ripped throug the south. 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>> all it takes is one person. on the internet, there's a paragraph, which is very deepl into the idea that it can stop things - if you don't stop the grea replacement theory they thin is happening in their head, if you don't commit acts of violence on soft targets nothing will ever solve. that is how you get the el pas shooting the price mark shooting, all that we've seen in the past. this is what we've seen in the past, this pro trump terro movement, the maga bomber in 2018 the guy who shot up the fb field august in august, the gu who went to nancy pelosi's house, there is a long list of lone wolf individual terrorized it doesn't take organizing it takes one crazy person. it's as, well when i suicida people, that's what they mean. they are saying go to your friend that is the mos helpless, that really believes in this stuff, and try to turn him into a terrorist >> i want to talk abou comfortable in their arguments which is george soros. why is he being used as some sort of dog whistle, rather? what's the meaning behind it let's to bump the claim we are hearing that he handpicked alvin bragg for da >> okay, let's start with that it's easier to do that one thing that much longer, 20-yea conspiracy theory about george soros. george soros paid millio dollars, campaign finances, you, know that amount of money, but he paid a two color of change, which is a nonprofit and, 11% of that money went to alvin bragg. so, there is no direct connection alvin bragg has never me george soros, according to alvin bragg and george soros but his politics definitel align with george soros. that is not what this is about if people really upset wit this, they would attack colo of change, rate? they are attacking george soro because he is a bookie man o the right. has been for two decades, thre decades. they think that he is trying t make city on livable, for some reason it's a long hot for them tha have to do with trying t covertly take down the unite states it is, by the way, deepl anti-semitic it has to do with, they thin he participated in the holocaust, all this stuff. i just want to recommend the book to people, caught emily taken by the influence of soros, if you want to read about hi actual influence, if you wan to read about the fact that he does fund a lot of democrati stuff, that you could be ver upset about, go right ahead. but it's not this kind o thing. he doesn't call alvin bragg an give him 1 million dollars and say go, take down donald trump >> that to your point, color o change did not get, i should say, 89% of the money he donated to it there is your mouth right there, folks stand down on that they probably won't. ben collins, we'll have yo back that's for sure. many thanks. coming up, we know how his supporters are reacting online but what about trump's political allies on capito hill, one being brought nearly to tears >> we need to help this man, thought old j trump! they are trying to drain him dry. >> at what point do they say okay, you, know let's let this man live in peace? 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>> yes, definitely >> so, i think that last bit there is a very telling opinio that we are hearing among an of his supporters here which is, if anything, they ar questioning the intentions behind the charges it's not changing thei opinions on the former president, certainly, ahead of 2024 many of them saying that the are still going to vote for him, and they have questions on why the charges were even place to begin with but in terms of where things stand in a broader context here, i want you to take you to this quick poll do this week abou whether or not charges in this indictment would change thei opinion on whether he should b able to run for president. you can see, roughly 60% sai it should disqualify him, an roughly 40% said it shouldn't. and when we look at who wa saying what's, alex, some thin that we are not surprised by the overwhelming majority, democrats say, you should be disqualified for its and those gop voters, bu majority of those who ar saying that it should not make a change or whether or not w could see him in the 2024 race alex >> that's extraordinary. three out of four republican say, it makes no difference. okay thank you, marissa, for that we heard from voters let's now turn to members of congress are reacting, or, i some notable cases, no reacting to all of this. nbc's julie tsirkin is joining us from capitol hill another welcome to him, we'v heard a lot of republicans i all of this, but not all o them what can you report for us >> the silence is deafening, isn't it, alex we haven't heard from thos prominent republican here in the senate, that is mitc mcconnell, the minority leader of course, he's been recoverin the last few weeks after suffering a fall he hasn't said anything abou the indictment of the former president. and he is, of, course in a ver public and private tense relationship with mr. trum over at least the last two years. i am told that we probably won't hear anything from him until we see what thos documents say, those charges until they come to light and the indictment itself is unsealed we also haven't heard from a handful of republicans, some o whom voted to convict th former president during th second impeachment trial, afte january six. that includes folks like senator romney and senator cassidy. we haven't heard from that they told us, even two weeks ago when the former presiden posted on truth social, he's i his arrest, that i will no comment until this process plays out. we also have heard, though, of course on the flip side, for many republicans who are allie of the former president, eve if they aren't united in supporting the former president, including his next reelectio bid, they are united behind th fact that this is political. they think it is politically motivated. i think that the, alvin bragg' case here, and charge here o the hush money payments is overblown. you are seeing that in the tweets on your screen. speaker mccarthy, the most powerful republican in d.c., h charged three house committees with actually investigating an looking into the matter. they traded some letters wit the manhattan da last week trying to investigate th investigators. so, just a lot going on here i the capital, as democrats on the flip side, say, let this investigation play out nobody is above the law. , so a lot to watch here for u as the main show is in new york it will eventually make its wa up here on capitol hill, whe more of these lawmakers ge back into town after their recess we will continue to press them for answers to these questions of whether this disqualifies the former president or not in this 24 race >> got to tell you it's, kee an eye on your toes, m friends. for which we thank you for all your reporting, julie tsirkin. i want to bring my panel int the conversation danielle moodie, host of wok af and the new abnormal podcast, and susan -- republican strategist was also an msnbc political analyst ladies, welcome to you both. danielle, i want to start with you here on this one we hear a lot of republicans say this is great news for trump politically, especiall in the primary fight did we really expect a competitive race wit candidates like nikki haley or wrong desantis, as they bu heads with trump he is far ahead of them, a both of you know so, let's aside the primary fo just a moment. it's getting charged as -- he's got a criminal indictment against him. is that a positive thing for the former president considering if he wins the primary, he still has a genera election to worry about? >> now i can't imagine that being a criminally indicted is a positive thing for anyone. let alone for donald trump it's obvious from that cal that you just showed tha republicans just don't care. this is who they are with. for everyone else, we believ that, you know, a criminal indictment is something that matters. and he would think that th party of quote unquote law and order would actually want to see this and see trump vindicated and go through th process, and they don't even want to do that. , so contrary to what they believe, donald trump will nee some democrats in order to win in that general election so, i don't see how this works in his favor at all. >> but circle back to get into how this plays in that primary with you, susan. here's how the washington post -- here's a quote the debate about whether thi helps or hurts trump's fight for the gop is beside the point, when it comes to any would b republican standard bearer, th mantra is clear. we are all trumpian's now. really all republicans are all trumpy and now, susan >> well, i'm not so, there's one. in all seriousness, no, that's not the case as a matter of fact, when yo look at that opinion poll, i looks like it's about 25%. i would bet that number woul be higher if the indictment wa a different charge meaning, not from the hush money payments >> you know, it's time - there's time for other indictments to come through. >> we -- >> are more serious points >> yes that is what i was going t say. this is how it stands as o now. let's not forget that -- opinion poll was in fact taken before the indictment, because the indictment doesn't happe until tuesday. we'll find out, everyone wil do a review of how they feel and we'll see if that number changes. i'm happy you have that up because that independent number, 55% to 36%, that tells me ther is no way in heck that donal trump can win election in november. this indictment does not hur him so much in the primary a of today, with this indictment however, going forward, it's like, you pick donald trump an you say, republicans are sayin i am falling on the sword fo donald trump i don't care if biden gets reelected. that's what they are saying, because trump winning th primary going forward loses to biden, hands down. >> you know, like othe republicans, danielle, rhond santas is jumping at the chanc to defend trump. he did so earlier again today. but all the while, the trump campaign is on the air with th ads attacking the florid governor this doesn't seem like a place to be if you are ron desantis, but does he have any other options? >> no. not if he wants to win the trump base, right? again, i think dan milwaukee's. right i think republican overall are trumpian, so, yo see mike pence playing the sam chance right now, not wantin to answer a subpoena because h doesn't want to upset the trum base in order for a republican to win, they need that trump base so, i think people should, though, pay attention to wha ron desantis tweeted when th announcement came out that trump was going to be indicted when he said that he was not going to follow the rule of la and follow extradition proceedings, if in fact, it wa needed in florida. this man is functioning like a authoritarian, like a fascist. so, i want people to understan that ron desantis is just as dangerous as donald trump's, t our democracy and to the republic >> yeah. i'm curious, though, susan would be rivals like desantis, let's focus on him all these trump attacks on him does it make him look weak i mean, to, you think desantis is listening to all of this, watching what's happening ou there and thinking, i'm no sure i'm even going to get int the race at all in 2024. he's only 44 years all he's got plenty of time. >> and he shouldn't, because frankly, he, too would lose in a general election i mean, i look at emerso college poll in florida. that was two weeks ago it said 61% of independent women dislike, disapprove, i should say, disapprove of th job that ron desantis is doing again, going into that independent number, there's no way you win if your home state 61% of independent women say no thank you so, ron desantis - actually, i would argue, while trump really didn't gain votes or lose votes, so far the cycl in this one indictment, it ron desantis is having a really, really, really bad week. he is on a book for with a boring book no one wants t talk about and then, he has to play int trump's hands. so, it leaves him not in a ver good position, as a matter o fact i think you should cancel th book tour, go home, and pa attention, because for example disney beat him again this week by getting some rules passed before his the santa's appointed board took over. so, desantis has got a lot o problems at home, too. >> it's an extraordinary tha you say that, and you think it would be donald trump's wors week i don't know what that say about everything, but i'm just going to put it out there. danielle and susan, thank yo so much. in the meantime, this is jus one of several criminal probes in the former president. after the break, former u.s. attorney, joyce vance, is back she is going to talk about whether this indictment coul impact the investigations by the doj and the fulton county, georgia da also, tomorrow night, tune int our special coverage led by my colleague, ali velshi. he will be joined as well by our colleague, simone sanders, katie fang, jonathan capehart, and reverend al sharpton that - 6 pm eastern, here, on msnbc kn ow how i feel.♪ ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... 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