important. with regard to fifth amendment privileges of self incriminal , incrimination have to make a decision with immunity. >> this week, we heard liz cheney twice, refer verbatim to federal statutory language of a crime, with regard to what she's looking at in terms of meadows and others. i think they'll make a criminal referral to doj and i think they'll do it before they get disbanded. >> and chuck, to you? >> yeah, two thoughts. first, i think they've already done an extraordinary job. they've spoken to more than 300 witnesses. they have reviewed 10s of thousands of documents, they'll tell a robust story. in an investigation, you never get everything you want, some witnesses lie, some are invaluable, so this is something we as prosecutors contend with all the time. there are people who won't speak