but whatever it is we're going to have to watch it closely, like we did with other variants. in the meantime, not to worry, and people should still get the vaccines that they need to get. >> wasn't delta at one point a variant of interest? >> i'm sorry, what -- >> i said, wasn't delta at one point a variant of interest? >> yeah. yes. the delta and other variants start -- if people are listening or watching what's going on, they'll say it's a variant of interest. it could become more than that, and the next step up from a variant of interest is a variant of concern. and that doesn't mention -- it's not given to the new mu variant. >> all right. dr. scott gottlieb warned this week the northeast has yet to have a true delta surge. is there a likelihood the northeast could see another surge when it comes to the delta

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